From "The Retreat" (805-483-3104): Subboard - "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" Message # 2. Date: 07/23/88. Time: 07:08:43. Read 39 Times. From : SYSOP To : ALL Subj : THIS BOARD PERMIFIED THIS BOARD IS JUST FOR YOU OBFUSCATES. NO ONE ELSE HAS ACCESS. SO, LET'S TALK ABOUT SOMETHING REALLY OBFUSCATIONARY. C- - - Message # 3. Date: 08/03/88. Time: 19:16:24. Read 51 Times. From : SYSOP To : ALL Subj : OPTIONS FOR OBFUSCATES PERMIFIED I HAVE PUT A COUPLE OF SPECIAL 'OBFUSCATE' OPTIONS ON THE MAIN MENU. "X" WILL GIVE YOU A LIST OF SECRET BULLETINS THAT ONLY OBFUSCATES CAN SEE. "Y" WILL ALLOW YOU TO ADD A QUOTE TO THE LIST OF LOGON QUOTES. ONLY OBFUSCATES CAN DO THIS. MORE WILL BE COMING IN THE FUTURE. C- - - Message # 4. Date: 08/06/88. Time: 09:29:49. Read 32 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : all Subj : test PERMIFIED Just going toattempting to do a little of this stuff ! ! ! Message # 5. Date: 08/08/88. Time: 15:55:18. Read 30 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : whomever Subj : Oh Wow! I'm Dilluded! Message # 6. Date: 08/08/88. Time: 00:48:56. Read 28 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : TMM Subj : concentration RECEIVED Better than being diluted. Although, I HAVE noticed your recent lack of concentration in some of the most basic mental functions lately. Including a, well, I seem to have forgotten at the moment. CI Message # 7. Reply to #6 Date: 08/08/88. Time: 06:47:29. Read 24 Times. From : SYSOP To : Cleric Ilsaram Subj : concentration RECEIVED WHAT WERE WE TALKING ABOUT ANYWAY???? C- - - Message # 8. Date: 08/08/24. Time: 18:03:53. Read 25 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : CI Subj : concentration Something Violet! I think. (NO I DONT!) Yes I do!!! (Only when you feel like it!) Prove it! (Only if I feel like it) Do you? (NO!) Then piss off! (Show me the toilet) Open your mouth! (Ugh ergh mugga ouk) Never mind... Message # 9. Date: 08/205/8. Time: 15:04:52. Read 27 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : God Subj : Now this, I gotta try. You went and changed them? How cruel. I guess the Gnomish tricks were too wide- spred, anyway. I guess? Huh? Who's talking? Don't repeat me. Oh yeah! That's right! I'm typing this, aren't I? What a concept! Don't you guys feel a little bit bugged that BBS's constantly repeat what you type? Stop that! Shut up! I hate that! My brother used to do that to me when i was a little kid! Quit it! I'll tell mom! Waaaah! I can't hear you.. I can't hear you! You're not bothering me. Go ahead and repeat me, I'm not listening. No. Well, now that I've established that it's REALLY not bother- ing me, I want to ask you guys if I can join the 3 PM club. (Even if it IS past 3 PM.) My favorite time of day is approaching. 3:14. It is so much like pi. You guys are losing out, think- ing that 8-8-88 is powerful. Just you wait un- til 3:14 on 3-14. And, better yet, you can wait 3,366 years, (a very powerful num- ber. Two double figures one of them double the other. There's something cosmic there.) then we'll see 3:14 15.9 seconds, on 2-6-5358. (well, not really 3,366 years, unless it's some other time, which it is.) Oop! Gotta go! Taking up too much access time again! I'll BCNUL8r. !!!!!!!!! G!!! GA !!! GAV!!! GAVISCON !!!.l No, that didn't work. !/-\!/-/ex .l Message # 10. Date: 08/17/89. Time: 03:17:07. Read 35 Times. From : SYSOP To : ALL Subj : NEW OBFUSCATE! PERMIFIED I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THE ADDITION OF A NEW OBFUSCATE TO OUR RANKS. HIS NAME IS ÈTASSLEHOFF BURRFOOT! IM SURE THAT HE WILL BE A VALUABLE CONTRIBUTION FROM NOW ON! SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER HIM FROM THE OLD GNOME'S CASTLE DAYS. BYE THE WAY, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE NEVER ON THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION OF THE OLD GNOMES CASTLE. THIS BOARD WAS TRADITIONALLY THE TRUE "ELITE" BOARD IN THE COUNTY. BY THAT I MEAN THIS IS THE BOARD WHERE THE TRULY INTELLIGENT STUFF HAPPENED. ALSO THIS WAS THE BOARD WERE THE MOST INSANE THINGS HAPPENED. I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE THAT WAY AGAIN. PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TRULY INSANE, OR INTELLIGENT, OR INSANELY INTELLIGENT TO SAY, SAY IT HERE. I HAVE DREDGED UP A LOT MORE STUFF FROM THE OLD GNOMES CASTLE THAT I WILL POST. I WILL POST SEVERAL THINGS FROM THE OLD TEMPLE SO THAT YOU CAN KINDA GET THE IDEA. IN FACT I WOULD DO IT TONIGHT BUT I AM KINDA TIRED. OKCUL8R C- - - Comments : OBFUSCATED=49857 HUH?=50371 DOINK=50885 WHO CARES=51399 BRAVO!=51913 #10. Message # 11. Date: 08/17/89. Time: 05:46:24. Read 26 Times. From : SYSOP To : ALL Subj : GUESS WHAT PERMIFIED AS IT TURNS OUT I'M NOT TIRED AFTER ALL. IN FACT, I CAN'T GET TO SLEEP. HOW BORING. AT LEAST I HAVE A BBS TO TYPE AT. AT LEAST THE HACKMODEM WILL TALK BACK AT ME AT TEN TO 6AM. HEY GAV, YOU CAN JOIN THE 3AM CLUB JUST AS LONG AS YOU LEAVE A MESSAGE AT EXACTLY PI AM. THE ONLY CATCH IS, YOU HAVE TO SOLVE PI TO THE LAST DIGIT SO THAT YOU CAN FIND OUT JUST EXACTLY WHEN PI-AM IS. NYUCK NYUCK. C- - - Comments : OBFUSCATED=49857 HUH?=50371 DOINK=50885 WHO CARES=51399 BRAVO!=51913 Message # 12. Date: 08/17/08. Time: 15:58:54. Read 25 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : whomever Subj : pi am PERMIFIED PI am is easy, first use pi to figure out the circumpherence of your clock, then divide your result by the ratio of the length of the big hand to the little hand, then multiply that by the area of the second hand rounded off to the nearest square nanometer. Now divide the result by the volume of the clock, and you'll have an exact time to log onto the 3 am club. If that doesn't work, give up. Nothing happens there anyway! -TMM Message # 13. Date: 08/17/08. Time: 19:37:29. Read 22 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : TMM Subj : clocks RECEIVED PERMIFIED You fool! Multiply by the volume of the clock, then subtract the result from itself, then add 42! It worked for me2..........2..... CI Message # 14. Date: 08/18/88. Time: 14:12:50. Read 23 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : whomever Subj : pi PERMIFIED Here's pi: pi 1 1 1 1 1 1 -- = - -- +- -- +- -- +..... 4 1 3 5 7 9 11 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406.... Also, pi over four equals four times the tangent to the negative one power times one half plus the quantity of tangent to the negative one times one over three. or Pi over four equals the quantity of four times the tangent to the negative one power times one fifth subtracted from the quantity of tangent to the negative one times one over two hundred thirty nine. Any of these will help you figure out pi to as many places as you want. (continued) ....28620899862803482534211706798214808651328230664709384460955058223172535.... There's pi to as many places as I have it recorded, anyone know of more? THE MUSIC MAN Message # 15. Date: 08/18/88. Time: 14:52:19. Read 23 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : TMM Subj : pi RECEIVED PERMIFIED I've memorized it past that... At one time. Unfortunately, I've slipped, and now I've only memorized it a few digits past the hundreath... One of these daze, I review it a again, and I'll gnow it to 147 places, like I used to... But, as the pi guy, I can tell you 206 digits: (some of you may want to skip to the next message at this point.) pi=3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406- 286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359- 40812848111745028410270193852110555964462294895493038196442881... Actually, it's 205 digits, not counting the decimal place, I think. I can also get a book froma math teacher I once had that has pi to 10,000 places> So when school starts, I am going to photocopy it, and I can get as many places as you want, up to 10,000. I suprized myself! I could type up to 124 digits before I had to look at the sheet. I think I'll go memorize a few more... BCNUL8r. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- /exx /eex /extra space in Hack's drive. Message # 16. Date: 08/18/88. Time: 23:10:13. Read 20 Times. From : Tasslehoff Burfoot To : The rest of the gang... Subj : I don't supose. PERMIFIED Does anyone out there gnow anything about this new appearance of Lord Scum? Is it a cruel joke? Or is it memorex?? What shall be done? Who is to blame? And why has that person stuck terror into the hearts of the Users? Why? Who? This deserves a nice discusion... And persicution... >The Tazz< "Just the fact's mam.." - George Bush Message # 17. Date: 08/19/88. Time: 10:52:40. Read 20 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : gav Subj : PI PERMIFIED I see that you are as addicted to pi as am I. more so even. I joined PMA (Pi Memorizers Anonymous) and kicked the habit. Now I only have it memorized to 20, but if I'm not careful, I memorize more, and get close to going crazy as a result. I would love to have it recorded to 10,000 places though. If yu have the time and patience, type in as many as possible. We could even have it listed under the obfuscates bulletins as "pi". woudln't that be nice. Then all could share in the delight of seeing the worlds most misunderstood and misquoted numberin existance. And we'll dedicate it to you, the PI GUY ! -TMM (or you could join PMS, the Pi memorizers society, that wouldn't be a bad idea for a sub-board!) Message # 18. Date: 08/19/88. Time: 19:21:09. Read 51 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : TMM Subj : sub-board RECEIVED PERMIFIED That is a terrible idea!!!! Why not the CI board, instead?? CI told you so Message # 19. Date: 08/20/88. Time: 02:02:30. Read 31 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : CI Subj : ci PERMIFIED yeah, but to how many places do you have Ci memorized to? Message # 20. Date: 08/20/88. Time: 18:24:34. Read 31 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : uh.... I dunno. Subj : ci, pi, or di PERMIFIED I found the book at B. Dalton the other day (You can call me "Books") in which it was recorded to 10,000, back in the science and techinology section. It is called "The history of Pi." (Sounds boring) In two pages, they showed 10,000 places. I wish I could just buy those two pages. But, with my negative cash flow, I can't afford to spend $11.95 on it right now, so wait until our school system drags us back into the classrooms, and I'll have that posted. (This BBS CAN handle 10K, can't it?) Maybe it would be a better idea to Upload it. That is, in case there is someone out there who can't skip to the next message for some reason, and they have to wait through 10,000 numbers. Hm. Maybe it could be fun. I wonder what kind of insults I'd get from outraged users if I did it on the Tavern sub-board? I only havee CI written out to 13 places... Sorry. You'll have to go out and buy the book: "The History of Pi." !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- ___/ ___/ /| | The "Pi Guy" /| | | |/ | |/ Mr. Shuester, the Buena physics teacher, did the same thing as a kid. He had to limit it to 20 digits, too. The Tazz< A formal complaint, by any other name. Message # 55. Date: 11/13/88. Time: 16:57:06. Read 25 Times. From : GOD To : All Subj : Me PERMIFIED GOD has spoken. Heed his words. ^^^ GOD ^^^ Message # 56. Reply to #55 Date: 11/14/88. Time: 00:14:08. Read 25 Times. From : SYSOP To : GOD Subj : Me RECEIVED PERMIFIED SAY, GOD. WHAT'S NEW? IS THIS A LOCAL CALL FROM WHERE YOU ARE? C- - - Message # 57. Date: 11/26/88. Time: 10:10:48. Read 26 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : GOD Subj : ? RECEIVED You had better be nice, and act accordingly, otherwise I may decide to stop believing in you and, as a result, you will most likely cease to exist! Besides, there are enough gods here already, and you are probably cramping the style of some of them! Don't you gnow that you don't belong here??? This is the temple, the HOLY TEMPLE OF DILLUSION!!!! And no mere mono- theistic entities are allowed to reside here without expressed consent of the SYSOP!! Now GO AWAY!! You're not wanted here!! Nobody likes you, everybody hates you, why don't you eat a worm ?!?!?!?! -TMM (I like to tread on narrow ground, that's all! Me and him go WAY back!!) Message # 58. Date: 12/03/88. Time: 14:10:24. Read 24 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : God Subj : Sorry RECEIVED I forgot you were the sub-op! (It's ok, nobody reads anything here anyway, including you!) Message # 59. Reply to #58 Date: 12/03/88. Time: 18:03:33. Read 24 Times. From : GOD To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Sorry RECEIVED Well, if you cease believing in me means that I will cease to exist, then I surely have ceased to exist due to your ceasure of thinking, which results in a similar ceasure of believing. Fortunately many others still think, thus I am alive and well up here. And to answer your question, Ray, yes, all calls are local to me. I exist everywhere, and all of the time. (Sort of like Santa Claus on Christmas night.) And one finnal word of advise to The Music Man: If you had ate as many worms as I have, then you'd know what kind of insult that was. We're very displeased with you up here. Just hope the devil finds out that you are dead at least a half an hour after you are up here... ^^^ GOD ^^^ Message # 60. Reply to #59 Date: 12/31/77. Time: 15:39:51. Read 23 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : GOD Subj : Sorry RECEIVED You don't exist, so stop thinking. CI #60. Message # 61. Date: 12/04/88. Time: 13:31:16. Read 27 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : DEAR GOD Subj : To You Actually, me and the devil are considering starting up a franchise down here in Oxnard (HA HA, just kidding, a little holy humor there!) It seems to me that if I stopped believing on you, being that your just a figment of our imagination, then you would cease to continue to exist pertaining to me, but not necessarily to others, which brings up an interesting point... If you exist to somebody else, and not to me, then if they pray for something, and I am somehow involved, then how would you answer the prayer?? Could it be possible that I have the ability to stump God???? And say, just for hypothetical consideration, that I didn't believe in you, but you believed in me. Afterall, if you DO exist reguardless of what I think, then your believing in my existence (which is evident) and your not existing, should I choose to believe that you don't, would then give me power over you! In light of all believed, and as the sum total of accepted or believed existence, I would have a stronger existence than would you!! If I believe I exist, and you believe I exist. And I believe you don't exist, and you believe you exist, then that would score, for existence: God: 1 TMM: 2 Therefore, I would have a higher probability of existing, inductively speaking. Now, if I apply these figures to the large amount of people that believe that you don't exist, whome yuo believe exist (for, afterall, YOU created them, right?), then the way I look at it, you have been believed right out of existence!!! My final guesstimate would be: God: 1 Human Race: 1,000,000 (approximately) Just think, you believe in all these people more than they believe in you. The human race has a higher chance of existing thatn do you. Of course, this only applies when considering that you exist. Is this a paradox, or a case of begging the answer??? Either way, it doesn't matter! I exist! -TMM (I dare you to prove otherwise, if you can, then I'LL eat the worm!!!!!!!) Message # 62. Date: 12/04/88. Time: 13:45:34. Read 27 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : ALL * Subj : PARTY *(Dillusionists, obfuscates, 3am club members, and anarchists) Friday night. At whatever time. At whoever's house. We're getting together for a party. Don't forget!!!!! -TMM Or whatever.... Message # 63. Date: 12/06/88. Time: 20:48:09. Read 24 Times. From : Tasslehoff Burfoot To : ALL * Subj : Details Details, we need details! Spill the beans, empty the coffee cans, we want to gnow! (And soon too!) >The Tazz< - Patiently waiting. Patiently! Message # 64. Reply to #61 Date: 12/07/88. Time: 03:18:12. Read 23 Times. From : SYSOP To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : To You RECEIVED I ATE THE WORM A COUPLE OF TIMES. IT WAS GROSS AND I WAS DISSAPOINTED. C- - - Message # 65. Date: 12/07/88. Time: 03:18:57. Read 25 Times. From : SYSOP To : ALL Subj : DILLUSIONIST PARTY HEY CI? CAN YOU GO ON FRIDAY? WHERE DO YOU WANT TO DO IT? IS YOUR HOUSE AVAILABLE? TAZZ HAS VOLUNTEERED HIS HOUSE IF YOUR'S IS NOT AVAILABLE. HEY LC, ARE YOU OUT THERE? C- - - Message # 66. Date: 12/08/88. Time: 03:09:51. Read 23 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : whomever Subj : Party We cannot make definite plans too far in advance, or it is highly probable that they will not be carried out. Afinite plans are fine for now, but we must avoid infinite plans. We will keep our plans as finite as possible, until otherwise defined. Message # 67. Date: 12/09/88. Time: 17:25:42. Read 23 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : whomever Subj : party time... Now can we make plans? Message # 68. Date: 12/13/88. Time: 03:33:54. Read 24 Times. From : SYSOP To : ALL Subj : HEY! THIS BOARD SHOULD BE USED! THAT IS MY OPINION. ONLY OBFUSCATES HAVE ACCESS TO THIS BOARD. DOESN'T THAT SOUND LIKE A SPECIAL THING TO YOU? WELL, MAYBE NOT. MAYBE SOME CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE. PLEASE TELL ME YOUR OPINIONS. ONE THING WE OBVIOUSLY NEED IS MORE OBFUSCATES (WHICH MEANS THAT WE NEED MORE USERS!) HOW CAN WE DO THAT? I NEED INPUT!!!! C- - - Message # 69. Date: 12/13/88. Time: 16:37:24. Read 24 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : SYSOP Subj : WHat do we need? RECEIVED I think the existance of an Obfuscatorium and a Temple of Dillusion is a bit redundant. Even for a certified Obfuscate, it's a bit difficult to post the difference, or anything whatever huh? Oh no! My alligator speech is starting duflop to singe deteriorate October complication bear watch saunter agropho- bia. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. Message # 70. Date: 12/13/88. Time: 22:25:32. Read 26 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : dillusionarium Subj : Dill pickles! I think nothing is a probable as a non-existent protosphere of transluscent micro-electronic bit. Still, this place will be no different that the name of the sub-op if it continues to be as such. Nothing is as important as everything under the sun, but that which is over the sun tends to be left out, unless it is right out, in which case it is nothing, which is as important as everything under the sun, which is only a relative approximation of the existence of material objects at one time or another. If not one time, then another, unless otherwise indicated with express written consent of those who feel themselves irrelevant to the position of the sun, given that they do exist, and are material objects as far as non-existen protospheres of transluscent micro-electronic bits are concerned, unpon which nothing is more probable, unless it happens to be something, in which case in holds greter probability within itself due to its own existence, unless it is non-existent, like the sub-op, who neither cares nor has the ability to. This alone is appropriate proof for the existence of the Dill Pickle. As for this sub-board, can it! -TMM (Actually, I kind of like it, even though nobody else does) #70. Message # 71. Reply to #70 Date: 12/14/88. Time: 14:12:40. Read 25 Times. From : SYSOP To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Dill pickles! RECEIVED I'D RATER CAN THE OBFUSCATORIUM. C- - - Message # 72. Date: 12/14/88. Time: 16:36:16. Read 25 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : THe Obfusactorium Fine. Can the Obfuscatorium... When concidering space, there is no "up", or "down", or "east", or "west", or any other direction, and therefore what, exactly, IS "under the sun"? And everything under the sun could be everything or nothing, or anything in between, or anything past either end. Therefore, when somebody refers to "everything under the sun" then you can interpret that to mean anything that you wish, and any sifficiently disillusioned individual can find a good way to make a few bucks off of someone that way... !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. Message # 73. Date: 12/15/88. Time: 01:23:09. Read 22 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : Sysop Subj : hey RECEIVED Keep the Obfuscatorium. Consider it a place where people can prove their worth to get into here. In the meantime, we all must contribute to make this a board worth getting into in the first place. Why don't you take some of the posts you have saved from GC and put them here, for public displa Give us something to remember just how disillusioned (so to type/speak/write/blab) it use to be. CI Just a couple?? Message # 74. Date: 12/15/88. Time: 17:55:23. Read 23 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : CI Subj : Good Idea... Remember Lex Luther (That dillusioned (not as in pickle (which would be sweet, (not sour)) type of guy) and his 4 continous messages (on Gnome's Castle (the old one (as opposed to just plain (as opposed to plaid))) full of those things that I can't spell? (Starts with a P!) Boy! That started a fad that still has not stopped! !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. Message # 75. Reply to #71 Date: 12/16/88. Time: 14:24:03. Read 21 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : SYSOP Subj : Dill pickles! RECEIVED I'd rather agree! Message # 76. Reply to #74 Date: 12/16/88. Time: 14:25:53. Read 21 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Good Idea... RECEIVED Everything under the sun, as I mentioned, is relative. Being a relative is relative to who the rest of the relatives are relative to your relation to them, relatively speaking. It seems, therefore, that relatives are under the sun, depending upon whoes relative that is, which is relative, but relative to their relative position relative to the sun, then relatively speaking they can be under it, relative to those who are over it, or consider themselves such, until their relative position changes, or the death of a relative occurs. In either case, dill pickles still exist, and so should kumquats. Message # 77. Reply to #72 Date: 12/17/88. Time: 20:48:14. Read 23 Times. From : SYSOP To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : THe Obfusactorium RECEIVED MAYBE THEY MEAN WHAT YOU WOULD FIND IF YOU LIFTED UP THE SON AND LOOKED WHERE IT USED TO BE? OR MAYBE THEY MEAN UNDER THE SURFACE OF THE SON. MAYBE THAT IS WHERE ALL THE COAT HANGERS GO? C- - - Message # 78. Reply to #73 Date: 12/17/88. Time: 20:49:30. Read 19 Times. From : SYSOP To : Cleric Ilsaram Subj : hey RECEIVED OK. ILL DO THAT. C- - - Message # 79. Date: 12/17/88. Time: 20:51:12. Read 18 Times. From : SYSOP To : ALL Subj : I'M GOING ON A TRIP SOON. I'LL BE TRAVELLING IN MY STEALTH WINNEBAGO. EVADING ALL POLICE RADAR. INDETECTABLE BY AIR SURVELLANCE. PASSING STRAIGHT THROUGH TOLL BOOTHS. HITCH- HIKERS WILL BE OBLIVIOUS TO MY WHEREABOUTS. I CAN PARK ALONG A RED CURB WITH NO PROBLEM. HANDICAPPED SPACES ARE MINE! SHE'LL BE STREAMLINED FOR SPEED, AND YOU CAN FORGET THE ANTI-SMOG EQUIPMENT! NEXT STOP FORT KNOX. C- - - Message # 80. Reply to #77 Date: 12/18/88. Time: 16:37:07. Read 19 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : SYSOP Subj : THe Obfusactorium RECEIVED But, as I said, a son is a realative, relative to who his father is, but the Sun IS relative, or is at least to whatever bodies may be above or below it, even if they are dead bodies, such as dead relatives, relative to whoes relative they are, if in fact they are somebodies relative, which could be anybody under the sun, which, relatively speaking, could be anywhere. If, relative to the sun, they are a son, relative to their relatives, then irrelevent to whoes relative they are, they must have at least some relative, or they wouldn't be anybodies son. This, however, does not prove anything about the existence of pickles, which do, exist that is, relative to the sun someplace (usually earth). This may be proof for the existence of kumquats though, except one small piece of information is missing, and that is, relatively speaking, the existence of a kumquat. This is a small problem though, and will soon be cleared up before lunchtime. #80. Message # 81. Date: 12/21/88. Time: 15:44:08. Read 18 Times. From : SYSOP To : Tasslehoff Burfoot Subj : I WONDER RECEIVED I HAVE A STRANGE PROBLEM. OLD THEATRE TICKET STUBS KEEP APPEARING IN MY PEN DRAWER. THAT'S STRANGE BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN PUT THEM THERE. I USUALLY THROW THEM AWAY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. FRANKLY I DON'T THINK THAT THEY ARE ALL MINE. (AT LEAST I DON'T REMEMBER GOING TO SEE JOHN WILKES BOOTH PERFORM) C- - - Message # 82. Reply to #81 Date: 12/22/88. Time: 08:51:32. Read 19 Times. From : Tasslehoff Burfoot To : SYSOP Subj : I WONDER RECEIVED That's strange.. Nothing more, but just plain strange. Hmm.. If it means anything to you, I've always been one to ssave all of my theater ticket stubs, and I do have this one place where I keep all of the old ones, perhaps it's been purged? I'll check up on this and see what's happened.... >The Tazz< Message # 83. Reply to #82 Date: 12/25/88. Time: 15:46:24. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Tasslehoff Burfoot Subj : I WONDER RECEIVED Well? Message # 84. Date: 12/25/88. Time: 19:42:15. Read 19 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Theatergoers Subj : Ticketstubs... Strange... I seem to collect ticketstubs, but I can never find them later. Then, they show up at the precise moment when they get in the way. (Like, when I'm cleaning up, and I can't figure out whether I should throw them away, or put them back where they clutter things up.) Tricky things, those ticket stubs. I'd say that they have a mind of there own... !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped with tickets. Message # 85. Reply to #84 Date: 12/26/88. Time: 17:31:34. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Ticketstubs... RECEIVED They have several mind of their own! How can you blame them, look at what they go through, I mean, the life of a ticket stub is not very glamourous! They are created and immediately get stuck to a couple other tickets, and rolled up with other tickets in a way which must be very cramped to them. They then get stuffed in stuffy boxed and are stored for a long period of time at which point they go insane. Eventually, they get their freedom, just to be torn in half and stuck in someones pocket. It's at that point that they are given the opportunity to associate with ball-point pens, and get some tips on kinetic disappearance. From here on, they will show up most anywhere. Being that they have been ripped in half, they only have half a brain, and when they get themselves lost, they aren't smart enough to stay lost, like the pens do. I have often wondered if they purposefully show up again, only because they gnow that they won't be needed, ad are retaliating for they way they have been treated. Some of them, however, never get tips from the pens, are are either forced to figure it out forthemselves, at which point they end up stuck in someones desk drawer, or else they end up stuck in the pocket in which they were stuck, only to be turned onto a fluff-ball while going through the wash, at which point they have no further purpose aside from the chance of being thrown into the street, and arbitrarily being picked up by a small animal, and choking it, or else being carried off by bugs, such as ants, which will use them as a cozy den for young baby ands, who will eat them, and hopefully choke. It is the rare lucky ticket who never gets used, but instead gets stuck in a wallet for show, or hung up on a wall for show. These tickets are proud, and rarely dissappear, unless they are taken by somebody... Message # 86. Date: 12/26/88. Time: 23:17:30. Read 22 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : All... Subj : Quote of the year... "Sort of like bugs." -Gaviscon (extracted from the Story Board, Hack's Retreat) This, I can tell, came from a master. This quote can be applied to all walks of life. Examples: Describing the movement of electrons around a nucleus. Cloud formations. Human social behavior. Etc, etc, the list goes on. This one gets my vote for quote of the year, hands (and various other appendages) down. I think I'll go post it in the login quotes right now... :::Lord Cirdan Message # 87. Date: 12/27/88. Time: 00:06:34. Read 20 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Lord Cirdan Subj : Wow! RECEIVED I had no idea I was so philisophical, but, now that you think of it, everything is "Sort of like bugs," isn't it? Kinda depressing, when you think of it, but great for analyzing new behaviors. For instance the Enquiror might one day claim to have captured aliens, themselves and then people will flood the magazine with letters asking about how they act. An easy, and probably correct answer would be "Sort of like bugs." Of course, if there is anyone down at the Enquiror with half a brain, they will gnow not to claim such a thin... ...excuse me. I need to make an urgent phone call to a certain magazine about something... !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. -Quotee Message # 88. Reply to #86 Date: 12/27/88. Time: 19:12:29. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Lord Cirdan Subj : Quote of the year... RECEIVED Sorry, it doesn't describe the movement of kumquats hanging from kumquat trees on windy dayz. It must be missing something! Message # 89. Reply to #84 Date: 12/28/88. Time: 02:46:16. Read 17 Times. From : SYSOP To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Ticketstubs... RECEIVED MAYBE IT IS ONLY CERTAIN KINDS OF TICKET STUBS THAT HAVE THIS POWER TO GET IN THE WAY. I JUST LOOKED IN MY PENCIL DRAWER AND THOSE TWO TICKET TICKET STUBS ARE STILL THERE. THEY ARE CROCODILE DUNDEE II TICKETS FROM THE CENTURY THEATRE IN VENTURA. 05/25/88 3:20 PM. THEY'RE BLUE. DOES THAT MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU? C- - - Message # 90. Date: 12/28/88. Time: 14:56:40. Read 21 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : SYSOP Subj : I never saw Crocodile Dundee II... RECEIVED Perhaps the reason I never saw it was because your ticket stubs were still in existance at the time... But the Blue part interests me... Were they blue when you first got them? Perhaps they aren't REALLY the same ticket stubs... Perhaps they are sim- ply cheap copies placed there to LOOK like you never thew them away. Per- haps the ball point pens have realized that they are violating the laws of conservation of mass and/or energy, and they wish to make amends by replacing the matter that they are taking with them with false ticket stubs... You said that they were blue. Well, the majority of ball point pens prefer the colors blue and black. (Although there are an occasional green, red, purple, and others... But they are more behaved) Therefore, if they were to create a substitute for themselves, they would naturally choose the colors blue or black, just as we naturally envision God, in- telligent aliens, and robots to be roughly huminoid, with appendages and a face with eyes, ears, etc... So, they have actually given themselves away, because they naturally use blue and black. After all, the ticket stub is blue. And, if my theory is valid, the lettering is black, am I correct? Brilliant, Dr. Aviscenna. Elementary, my dear Watson... !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -The Sherlock Holmes of Dillusionment. #90. Message # 91. Reply to #90 Date: 12/29/88. Time: 02:24:35. Read 18 Times. From : SYSOP To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : I never saw Crocodile Dundee II... RECEIVED HMM, WELL, NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT, I THINK THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN ORANGE IN THE BEGINNING. THAT IS ONLY A GUESS. IT WAS A PRETTY LONG TIME AGO. HOW ABOUT YOU? COUNT UP ALL THE TICKETS YOU CAN FIND AND SEE IF THEY ARE ALL BLUE AND BLACK. C- - - Message # 92. Date: 12/29/88. Time: 15:53:41. Read 18 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : SYSOP Subj : I must do that... RECEIVED You gnow, I've been thinking... And this time it didn't hurt my head as much when I did it. When you changed your sysop, I thought, "hey! That's fine. As long as we all gnow who he is, but when I call other boards, it seems that a LOT of other people changed their names to SYSOP, or CLUB SYSOP, or anything somewhat similar. Is this a new trend? And, how will we gnow who you are, if someone ELSE named SYSOP wants to log on to this board? Why is it that this is such a popular new name? As for the blue tickets, I will check as soon as I leave the terminal, but I may take more than four minutes, so I will do it later... But, I do think I have a blue and black ticket here and there... At least the black lettering. I'm sure a lot of them have black lettering... Tricky little devils, those pens... !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. Over 300 messages served! Message # 93. Reply to #92 Date: 12/30/88. Time: 16:00:54. Read 16 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : I must do that... RECEIVED I think we should get our sysop to call himself the NON-SYSOP. He would be different from all the others, we would be able to recognize him, and, in the name of true obfuscation, would confuse the hell out of everyone. Just a thought... The Music Man -=obfuscate=- Think Infinity! Over 1000 messages served! Message # 94. Date: 12/31/88. Time: 14:04:42. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : NONSYSOP/TMM Subj : What's in a name? Hmmm... Perhaps he should just "edit" his name a bit... You gnow, like Slyman as the Slysop... Sysbot? That's a good one. If you'll remember his true nature as Hackbot, then Sysbot is a perfectly acceptable name. (Accepted by only one person, so far, but it is accepted, nonetheless) !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. --==OBFUSCATE==-- ___/ ___/ /| | The "Pi Guy" /| | | | | | Yeah, well you had a head start... Message # 95. Reply to #94 Date: 01/01/89. Time: 16:38:47. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : What's in a name? RECEIVED I think I like HACKOP better!!!! Message # 96. Date: 01/02/89. Time: 06:18:16. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : ME WELL, I'VE DECIDED TO CHANGE MY NAME TO HACK MAN AND MY NICKNAME TO SYSOP. DOINK Message # 97. Date: 01/05/89. Time: 01:20:58. Read 23 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : SNARGLEDEGOP BEFORE WE CAN PROCEED ANY FURTHER I MUST DETERMINE IF ANY OF YOU ARE SECRET COMMUNIST MUTANT CLONES FROM OUTER SPACE: PLEASE ANSWER THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS. A: DO YOU HAVE A FONDNESS OR AFFECTION FOR TEST TUBES? B: WHAT DO YOU LIKE BETTER? YELLOW, OR GREEN BANANAS? C: WHAT DO YOU THINK OF INHERITANCE TAX? C- - - Message # 98. Date: 01/05/89. Time: 21:45:23. Read 15 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : HACK MAN Subj : bananas RECEIVED I believe that is a subject for much discussion. I can't remember which one I liked, but it will come back to me. Certainly not brown, or purple, I know that much. Ci Ic Message # 99. Date: 01/06/89. Time: 00:02:34. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : hack dude Subj : things I find test tubes fascinating. I like yellow bannannas!! and inheritance tax? It sucks the big one! Message # 100. Date: 01/07/89. Time: 01:24:03. Read 19 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : Info RECEIVED A: None of the above B: False c: 1492 !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. #100. Message # 101. Reply to #98 Date: 01/12/89. Time: 00:23:58. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Cleric Ilsaram Subj : bananas RECEIVED YELLOW BANANA'S ARE THE TRUE FOOD OF THE GODS. C- - - Message # 102. Date: 01/12/89. Time: 00:25:32. Read 24 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. RECEIVED A: CAN YOU DO THIS? B: DOES NAPALM SMELL BETTER IN THE MORNING OR THE EVENING? C: IS HELL REALLY JUST LLEH SPELLED BACKWARDS? D: DO YOU LIKE KUMQUATS WARM OR COOLED? E: WHAT DO YOU THINK OF ..... F: WHAT WAS I GOING TO ASK HERE? G: C- - - Message # 103. Date: 01/12/89. Time: 00:31:11. Read 24 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : NEAT NEW THINGY I'VE ADDED A FEW NEAT NEW MESSAGE TRICKS, BUT I ONLY FEEL LIKE TELLING YOU ABOUT ONE OF THEM RIGHT NOW. IF YOU ENTER ^\ ^V (STANDS FOR random Value) IT WILL PRINT A SINGLE RANDOM NUMERIC CHARACTER (BETWEEN 0 AND 9). EVERY TIME YOU READ THE MESSAGE IT WILL PRINT A DIFFERENT RANDOM DIGIT. I THOUGHT THAT SUCH A FEATURE MIGHT POSSIBLY BE USED FOR OBFUSCATORY PURPOSES, AS INDEED I HAVE DONE SO RECENTLY. C- - - DOINK YOU! TIMES 538! Message # 104. Date: 01/12/89. Time: 02:17:51. Read 23 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : people Subj : for you 805171298739986107387460212450969133703206461859077338196041896486775236775605493959528428134713821439314393100778424277909560098530587448025192568130903753174319530105211123328548067512478912985389845460363806585593421717776654471086644757487618089810534543216803063619295124552085 That is just totally amusing. CIO COI IOC ICO take your pick Message # 105. Date: 01/13/89. Time: 17:12:33. Read 18 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : MORE ANSWERS FROM ME. RECEIVED A: The Square Root of infinity B: Tom and Jane are Goldfish C: Charles Dickens D: Chephalexin Hydrochloride E: mu * 15 kg (9.8 m/s^2) F: A fifty cent piece and a nickle G: Arcsin(cos(x)tan(x)) H: oo oo C- - - 200 400 !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. -Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies... Message # 106. Reply to #102 Date: 01/14/89. Time: 02:40:08. Read 19 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. RECEIVED A: True B: False C: Maybe D: Certainly E: Never F: 42 G: Dirty Underwear Message # 107. Date: 01/15/89. Time: 04:56:43. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : OBFUSCATES I THIK IT'S TIME TO ADMIT A FEW NEW OBFUSCATES. SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN NOMINATED SO FAR ARE; PEGGY, CANDY, LYNX, ETC. INPUT IS NEEDED ON THIS!!! C- - - Message # 108. Date: 01/15/89. Time: 04:59:40. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : HMM. (HACK MAN MUSED) HOW THE HELL DID ARSENIO HALL GET A SHOW? COULDN'T WE ALL DO IT BETTER THAN HE DOES? I WANNA GO TO BETELGEUSE. ANYONE WANT TO COME? C- - - Message # 109. Reply to #108 Date: 01/15/89. Time: 13:19:56. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : HMM. (HACK MAN MUSED) RECEIVED I don't want to go to beletguise! It's too hot there! There is, however, a little moon that circles the sixth planet from that star that is rather nice to visit. The planet itself is not too hot (well, actually, it IS hot, all desert, and very little atmosphere, composed of a lot of mercuric oxide), but the moon, which is quite small, not much bigger than our moon, has an oxygen rich atmoshpere, a lot of beautiful greenery everywhere, and cute fuzzy little animals (who by some coincidence all answer to the name "spot"). I have personally called it "Eden". I have yet to find another human or humanoidian there, so I have kindof claimed it as mine until someone else does, and a bloody battle breaks out, resulting in nuclear warfare which will wipe out life on the whole moon, leaving it as desolate as the planet it revolves around, which would also be effected by the radiation, and would turn from a desert planet into a paradise. I'm giving it about 2000 years. Until then, I have a nice little moon of mine own, with what I will call for the time being "cute fuzzy bunnies" roaming everywhere. Would you like to visit it with me? I'm going next spring! (Spring occurs there every 50 years!) The Music Man I think peggy may be a candidate for an obfuscate 3rd class, but I don't gnow about the others, I'd have to watch them more before I personally made a decision, but the decision is ultimately everyone elses as well. Message # 110. Date: 01/15/89. Time: 14:26:46. Read 15 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : ALL Subj : Obfuscates. Peggy maybe. I don't think the rest have shown Obfuscate qualities yet. Peggy has potential but I haven't seen anything that would qualify her as of yet. :::Lord Cirdan #110. Message # 111. Date: 01/15/89. Time: 15:50:18. Read 24 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Obfuscates/Dillusionists Subj : New Obfuscates/Dillusionists I don't gnow... I think candy had the absolute best inherant Obfuscatory powers in a new user that I've ever seen. I actually believed, at first, that she was one of you guys, in a blind effort to see what they women- only board was doing... (THE women only...) But they've all seemed to've (conjunction: to have) digressed. Any true-blue Obfuscate has to stick with it. I've had the experience of watching at least 20 users attempt to out-margin me, for the sole purpose of trying to become more of a margin master than myself. Out of all those, only The Frammis Man was capable of "sticking with it." I have yet to see a second user margin for more than a week. Therefore, there have only been two users to achieve "Marginer" status. (I am still thinking of a name to call it) Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is that anyone can be an Obfuscate for a week or two, but we also have to examine the long-lasting qualities. Don't call someone a marginer because they right-justify a single message, in other words. Peggy seems like a prime choice (God, she sounds like a piece of meat) in choosing new Obfuscates, but I haven't seen much out of her, other than a post or two (mostly replies) on the Obfuscatorium. If I'm going to decide to vote someone in as an Obfuscate, I have to see an original, clever, (& slightly wierd) piece of Dillusioned thinking. You gnow, like subliminal message posting, inbred parenthesis, or the invention of the GN/OMUBET... (except original) It doesn't have to be big... Just something to set one of them off from the rest of the users... Oh, and HACK MAN, I've been meaning to ask you something. Could you print up another list of the Obfuscates? Gary the Gallant, a.k.a. The Nomad, a.k.a. Bruceee, a.k.a. The Death Demon seems to think that he was des- ignated an Obfuscate, mostly because he had access to The Temple of Dill- usion on the new Gnome. On every list that I have ever seen, he was never included, and no one ever even mentioned making him an Obfuscate, but he refuses to belive me, and wants it straight from you. This board is long distance for him to call, so he asked me to ask you if he was, which I do not think he is, but would rather you say he ain't. Right? Anyway, I made a list of who I gnew were Obfuscates to him, and this is what I came up with: (*) indicates missing, presumed partying. Lex Luthor (*) HACK MAN Lord Cirdan Pizza Man Cleric Ilsaram The Music Man The Frammis Man (*) Tasslehoff Burfoot And, of course, Gaviscon Aviscenna a.k.a. The Pi Guy/Margin Master/A lot of other things... Hmmm... I keep thinking that I missed somebody, but it's just not coming to my mind... Anyway, let me gnow what to tell Gary the Gallant. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. -Also, we should first make them rookie/minor/training/whateverelse Obfuscates. (Obfuscate 3rd class?) Then, maybe we could just say, "Show us what you've got" Message # 112. Date: 01/16/89. Time: 03:44:37. Read 15 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : all Subj : hey I agree. Peggy is rather intelligent, et al, but not an Obfuscate in my opinion. What I see from her as far as clubs go, is Anti-Jerk material. Candy has obfuscatory qualities to her. But I don't think her attempts when applying herself to the task of obfuscation have been anything more than half- baked. So far, it seems to be merely potential. Lynx has been around awhile. But I have no idea where his loyalties reside. CI shlabeddy Message # 115. Reply to #111 Date: 01/17/89. Time: 04:11:14. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : New Obfuscates/Dillusionists RECEIVED I DUNNO. MAYBE L.C. CAN HELP OUT. I'M NOT SURE. A COUPLE OF NEW OBFUSCATES WERE VOTED IN ON APPLEHOLICS. AFTER WHICH POINT THEY PROMPTLY DISAPPEARED. I'M NOT SURE BUT I THINK GARY THE GALLANT WAS ONE. DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT TMM? HMM, I THINK I HAVE SOME OBFUSCATE STUFF FROM APPLEHOLICS SAVED SOMEWHERE. I'LL HAVE TO LOOK IT UP AND REPRINT SOME OF THE GOOD STUFF. OH NO, ON THE OTHER HAND THAT STUFF MAY HAVE BEEN LOST IN A HARD DISK CRASH. I'M WONDERING ABOUT MYNK LYNX. HE SAYS THAT HE WAS MADE AN OBFUSCATE, BUT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT. I BELIEVE HE MEANS A LONG TIME AGO JUST BEFORE THE GNOME'S CASTLE WAS TAKEN DOWN, BUT I DON'T SEEM TO RECALL THAT. C- - - Message # 116. Date: 01/17/89. Time: 17:07:49. Read 18 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Hack Man Subj : Obfuscates RECEIVED I don't think either of them were Obfuscates. I think that a lot of people like to consider themselves Obfuscates, because no one else would let them be... You gnow, like just because they posted on Obfuscatoriums, and had access to Temples and such, they assumed they were members. It's just like people who christian themselves as members of the 3am club, because they post a message at 3am. I had access to the Temple of Dillusion long be- fore I was an Obfuscate, so that is no way to tell, but I think that is what Gary based it on... Perhaps you did give certain people membership... But I certainly don't recall it. I think we ought to revote on everything or at least come up with a suitable way of letting in new members. Make it all terribly official, like Congress, so that it takes twice the amount of time to do anything. (And somewhere, someone, sometime should keep a list, so we don't run into these problems) Also, Gary wanted me to tell you about a BBS he's putting up. (Yes, that's right... Another one!) I think he's going to call it The Demon's Den, or something patterned after The Death Demon, one of his many handles. (He's having real troubles sticking with a handle) Anyway, he told me all about a subboard that he would call the Table of Dillusion, (the BBS itself was going to be patterned after Gnome, I guess... Popular topic. I had nothing to do with it... Scout's honor) and it would admit only a certain number of users, although everyone could read the messages. There was some pecul- iarity to it. I believe that the number of members to the table remained a constant, and the Obfuscates could never be bumped off, but they could do so to other users at will, to make room for other users, or new Obfuscates to the board. (When needed, he might expand the seating) Anyway, I am not going to say if I support his ideas, or not, but he wanted me to tell you about it... So I did. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. -=I'M AN OBFUSCATE, ARE YOU?=- Message # 117. Reply to #116 Date: 01/18/89. Time: 01:48:56. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Obfuscates RECEIVED WELL, TELL HIM THAT HE CAN'T HAVE A BOARD FOR OBFUSCATES WITHOUT MAJORITY APPROVAL OF THE OBFUSCATES, WHICH MEANS THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO CALL HERE AND TELL US ABOUT IT HIMSELF. AS FOR DILLUSION, THAT WAS LEX LUTHOR'S AND LORD CIRDAN'S DOMAIN AND HE WOULD HAVE TO ASK THEM. C- - - Message # 118. Date: 01/19/89. Time: 12:07:22. Read 17 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : ALL Subj : Obfuscates I don't remember Gary the Gallant becoming an Obfuscate, and actually, I don't remember Mynk Lynx calling The (Orignal) Gnome's Castle, though I think he had access to Gnome. Hmm, may have to go through the message bases I have and see what's on there. L8r... :::Lord Cirdan Message # 119. Date: 01/19/89. Time: 12:10:31. Read 21 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : Hack Man Subj : A gnote. RECEIVED You gnow, I was giving some serious thought about what made the Gnome's Castle a good BBS, better perhaps than its offspring, Gnome. My personal opinion is one feature that is destructive to quality message posts is the auto-reply command. If user A calls up and posts a message about something, then user B calls up and replies. That's ok. But then user C calls up, reads user A's message, replies, then reads user B message. Thus you have a post about a subject that user C hasn't obtained all of the information. So C's message may restate many of the things said by user B. Now user D calls up, and gets confused reading straight through the messages because user C is repeating what user B already said. Also, auto-reply encourages disconnected messages. Look at the messages on the Obfuscate board. Many messages between Music Man and candy are hard to follow without going back to the original messages to see what they are talking about. And most people don't feel like doing that. I gnow that the auto-reply may make things easier for people who can't remember who said what, but I think that by making things too easy you may end up with a sloppy message base. Comments? :::Lord Cirdan Message # 120. Date: 01/19/89. Time: 17:47:32. Read 21 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Lord Cirdan Subj : Hear here! RECEIVED I've been stating that for years! You were not around, but I was the one who got Wolverine kicked off almost every board in Ventura, just by getting mad at him for posting seven meaningless replies in a row, many of which said exactly the same things. (The guy was a dork, but it took someone to crit- icize him before people realized it.) Admittedly, they might have taken that too far, but I did manage to save that board from utter boredom. The exact same problem is on every board I see... People seem to like posting short, 3 word replies to messages, as soon as they read them. Anyone with half a mind can remember what somebody else said, a few messages back. It really gets to be an annoyance when someone posts something like: Could somebody tell me the number to _______'s board? (or) Does anyone gnore where _______ is? (or whatever) Then, on a popular board, you'll get about 4 or 5 identical posts from var- ious users, plus maybe one or two more, by people apologising for reapeating someone else... I tend to stay away from reply options, and urge others to do the same, but I gnow that I am not in the majority. It is, however, nice to see that there is someone else on my side... Oh, and, Mink Lynx never called Gnome's regularly, although he may have been a visiter every now and again. I really do not think that he was an Obfuscate nevertheless... !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. #120. Message # 121. Reply to #115 Date: 01/28/89. Time: 12:43:15. Read 18 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : New Obfuscates/Dillusionists RECEIVED I don't remember mynk lynk becoming one. I don't think he has obfuscate potential, but I may be wrong. As for gary the gallant, maybe, but I don't remember (that was an infinite amount of time ago, and my brain doesn't remember anything more than 30 seconds ago!) Oh, well. Let's just keep watching them and vote on it later. The Music Man -=obfuscate=-(1st Class) dillusionist!(3rd Class) All Else Is Trivial! Message # 122. Reply to #119 Date: 01/28/89. Time: 12:48:55. Read 16 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Lord Cirdan Subj : A gnote. RECEIVED I agree 100%. I used to just remember the topics and people who left them and then reply after reading it all. Then I could reply to the subject as a whole, and as you said, not repeat the same things others have said. Auto-reply mucks up the messages base with too many messages too! (I gnow, I am probably the one who does most of the mucking, but I have just gotten lazy!) Maybe we should remove the autoreply from places like the obfuscatorium and here, and maybe other places. Messages on GC were a lot more consolidated, and I agree, that was probably part of why it was so successful! -TMM Message # 123. Reply to #122 Date: 01/30/89. Time: 00:08:27. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : A gnote. RECEIVED I THINK THAT AUTOREPLY HAS MORE POSITIVE POINTS THAN NEGATIVE ONES. C- - - Message # 124. Reply to #123 Date: 01/30/89. Time: 22:46:59. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : A gnote. RECEIVED I kindof agree. I wish there were some other solution though. I would try thinking of one, but I don't feel like it. Message # 126. Reply to #123 Date: 01/31/89. Time: 03:21:58. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : A gnote. RECEIVED WELL, YOU CAN ALWAYS AUTOREPLY AND IF YOU FIND THAT YOU SAID SOMETHING STUPID THEN YOU CAN RE-EDIT THE MESSAGE AND TAKE THE STUPID STUFF OUT. C- - - P.S. OR, YOU CAN READ ALL OF THE MESSAGE AND USE THE 'D' OPTION TO TRACE BACKWARDS THROUGH THE INTERESTING CONVOS AND USE THE AUTOREPLY TO REPLY TO THOSE MESSAGES THAT NEED REPLYING TO. THAT WAY YOU WILL GNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THE CONVO, AND YOU CAN STILL USE THE AUTOREPLY. Message # 127. Date: 01/31/89. Time: 13:32:47. Read 19 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : Dillusionists Subj : Well then... Ok then, let's see how many people make use of re-edit command.... I'll post a message that should get a response from people due to it's highly controversial nature, and see how many post right away, rather than read the next message, then see how many people after reading the second message re-edit their messages.... :::Lord Cirdan Message # 128. Reply to #127 Date: 01/31/89. Time: 16:00:33. Read 19 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Lord Cirdan Subj : Well then... RECEIVED Hmmm, I wonder if I'll fall for it! (I think you could have found something more controversial though!) People could always go back and delete the message they left (like I almost did, but didn 't feel like it, I'm too lazy!) Message # 129. Date: 02/05/89. Time: 12:50:11. Read 20 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Dillusionists/Yak Lovers Subj : Yak facts Did you gnow that. . . and refuse to move? choose yaks? (Significantly, when asked the same question, 7 out of 7 yaks did not choose Obfuscates) have a life span of over 90 years? cowardly yak instead of a cowardly lion? ("Yaks and tigers and bears, oh my!") where it forms a long, shaggy fringe? more? black and white? mature bulls staying together in smaller groups)? !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Source of all your major yak facts. Message # 130. Date: 02/06/89. Time: 02:42:32. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : A SECRET I GNOW WHY WORMS CRAWL AROUND ON THE GROUND AFTER IT STARTS RAINING. C- - - #130. Message # 131. Reply to #130 Date: 02/06/89. Time: 15:35:53. Read 19 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : A SECRET RECEIVED And I gnow why they get stepped on! -TMM Coming soon: Little Gnown Facts About Kumquats Message # 132. Date: 02/07/89. Time: 17:50:42. Read 17 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : People who like yaks Subj : More yak facts Did you know that. . . during the cold season? used to make rope, and that yak tails are used as fly whisks in India? disease caused by the organism mycoplasma mycoides, which strikes yaks and other herding animals? the yak for plowing? Tibet? animal? away as Lima, Peru? THESE ARE IMPORTANT TO GNOW, MY FRIENDS! !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- Message # 133. Date: 02/09/89. Time: 16:16:22. Read 19 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Dillusioned Gnus Subj : Gnu news Now, for some gnu news: Hot off the wire: Huey Lewis and the Gnus will be giving a special concert. Their warmup band is rumored to be a surprise reunion of The Animals. Did you gnow that: Remember these facts! !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Source of all your gnu and yak facts. Message # 134. Reply to #132 Date: 02/10/89. Time: 05:10:49. Read 19 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : More yak facts RECEIVED SO, WHY DON'T WE HAVE YAKS IN CALIFORNIA? C- - - Message # 135. Date: 02/20/89. Time: 02:11:13. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : ANNOYING ANIMALS. I HAVE JUST THEORIZED WHAT I BELIEVE TO BE THE MOST ANNOYING ANIMAL POSSIBLE. WHAT YOU DO IS YOU TAKE A HUMMING BIRD AND CROSS IT WITH A CAT. THE RESULT SHALL BE NAMED A 'HUMMING CAT.' THEY ARE GREAT PETS TO GIVE TO YOUR WORST ENEMIES. ALWAYS HUMMING, AND MEOWING, AND PURRING AROUND. HUMMING CATS WOULD BE QUITE A HAZARD FOR CAT HATERS. CATS CAN USUALLY SPOT A CAT HATER FROM A MILE AWAY. SUCH CAT HATERS WOULD BE IN GRAVE DANGER OF STRAFING CLAW RUNS FROM ABOVE. NOT ONLY THAT BUT HUMMING CATS WOULD BE PLENTIFUL, (BECAUSE THEY CAN REACH BIRDS EASIER) THEY WOULD HAVE LOTS TO EAT. ONCE MY GENETIC EXPERIMENTS ARE CONCLUDED YOU WILL BE ABLE TO HEAR THE ANNOYING SOUND OF HUMMING CATS BREEDING IN TREES AND ON TELEPHONE POLES. SO, GET YOUR SLINGSHOTS AND SHOTGUNS READY! C- - - Message # 136. Date: 02/21/89. Time: 16:28:51. Read 15 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Hack Man Subj : Humming cats RECEIVED Ooooh! You are so right! And humming cats would have the uncanny ability, not other to always land on their feet, but to hang in midair... Therefore, hum- ming cats would be able to hang in midair, and their feet could do anything, including gouge flesh out of your arms... And even worse, these humming cats, as dangerous and bad-tempered as they may be (from their agitation from being their own worst enemies... Literally) will still appear to be cute and ador- able. (Being that a humming bird is the smallest bird, and that cats are de- ceivingly cute, when they are small, anyway...) They will be like cats in sheep's clothing! Well... Maybe I'll come up with a better analogy later... Get out the kitty litter, and sprinkle it with pollen! Uh... Hack Man... You wouldn't ever think of sending one of those out on me... Would you? !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- Message # 137. Date: 02/22/89. Time: 22:59:29. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : LYNX WHAT DO YOU THINK OF ADMITTING LYNX INTO THE RANKS OF OBFUSCATIONSHIP? C- - - Message # 138. Date: 02/23/89. Time: 14:49:02. Read 12 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : All Subj : Lynx Well, he at least has the backspacing down.....Hmmm, maybe we should give him a test? Make up a bunch of questions and see how he answers them? :::Lord Cirdan Message # 139. Date: 02/24/89. Time: 16:45:31. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Hack Man Subj : I'm not sure... RECEIVED He seems alright, but as I've said before, (about peggy) he lacks originality. I've yet to see anything truely "new" out of either of them. They just kind of go along with the flow of us others... Before I vote for someone, I want to see a completely new, original idea, at LEAST once, but any Obfuscate has to REALLY be able to come up with new ideas all the time... Also, we should develop some systamatic way of letting new Obfuscates in, like Lynx. Lord Cirdan suggested a quiz, or something, which seems like a good idea but I'm thinking more along the lines of voting... I mean, I believe we should have to get a unanymous vote from all Obfuscates who are present. (The Frammis Man, Lex Luthor, etc., would not be required, but, if he hasn't been gone too long, people like Cleric Ilsaram should be asked by phone, if it's not too in- convenient, and people like Tazz, who just doesn't call very often, should be asked to vote, as well.) Maybe we should have one person suggest to let some- one in, and then spend a week, (or otherwise designated time) discussing the issue, giving opinions, and so on... If you appear to be the only one who dis- approves of someone, you should probably give in, at the end of the week, as a common courtasy to the others, since a unanamous vote is needed, unless you've got a strong reason for opposing the person. If you do, then you should really be able to sway others to your side during the week debate, anyway. The Obfus- cates can stay small, if it has to, and, admittedly, it'd be better if it were larger, but I think that a true consent of everyone is the best way... Other- wise, people will start holding grudges and get angry when someone is admitted against their wishes, etc. Maybe it's not the same as the Senate, but who is crazy enough to copy our government, anyway? Therefore, my "rules" are as follows: 1) Unanomous (How DO you spell that?) vote required to admit any new Obfuscate. 2) Voters will consist of all Obfuscates who can be easily contacted. 3) To be considered, one Obfusacte must suggest the idea, and then one week of debate will follow. (Time can be extended if needed) 4) If a user is very close to being admitted, (say, within one vote) then the person(s) who voted against that user will be allowed to change their vote to approval afterward, without a completely different voting session. This should be done as a common courtasy, unless your opposing reasons happen to be very strong. (And valid) 5) Any user may be suggested for admission any number of times, but don't make it rediculous. (Want him in? "Nay!" Want him in? "Nay!!" All right, one last chance... Want him in? "Nay NAY! NAY!!!") Any commments? Criticisms? Criteria? Crustaceans? !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- Message # 140. Reply to #139 Date: 02/24/89. Time: 22:03:35. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : I'm not sure... RECEIVED I think creativity is indeed important! Lynx can grasp the concept, but I have yet to see anything new from him that I have not seen before form anybody else. I guess its kindof like a thesis, doing something that nobody has ever done before, ^(masters) and doing it right. Until I see genuine originality from him, he will not get my vote. #140. Message # 141. Date: 02/26/89. Time: 14:37:08. Read 21 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : Anyone Subj : Lynx I think Music Man is right, about the thesis. Perhaps someone should drop him a gnote, and say that he must first come up with a completely original post that we could make a decision on. :::LC Message # 142. Date: 02/28/89. Time: 04:46:45. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : UPDATED OBFUSCATE BULLETINS WELL THAT PRETTY MUCH SAYS IT ALL. THE OBFUSCATE BULLETINS HAVE BEEN UPDATED AND EXPANDED, CHECK THEM OUT. C- - - Message # 144. Date: 02/28/89. Time: 17:37:37. Read 18 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Obfuscates Subj : Whatever happened to message #143? Why does Lynx gnow about all the tricks, anyway? Can he read the Obfuscate bullitans, and why? I believe we should drop a few small hints, (very dif- ficult, like on Gnome's Castle) but not give the tricks away, unless some- one IS an Obfuscate. I mean, what's the point of calling them Obfusacte bullitans? But if he figured out these tricks entirely on his own, then I must comend him for that. Or did someone tell him about it? Hack: The color tricks elude me. I didn't read it clearly, but all I gnow is that I've got a lousy ANSI simulator, with four colors, and you have included many more possibilities. How can you tell if something is a different color, anyway? From what I read, the only way to tell is by the BEEP. Maybe I should read up on it, slowly. What do any of you think about how to vote in an Obfuscate? Should it just be informal, or what? Also, it doesn't seem right that you should have to TELL someone to be or- iginal. Any Obfuscate has to always do that, but I guess you've got to go and start somewhere. I still disagree with letting someone in, on the sim- ple basis that they wrote one original message because we told him to. But I believe we DO have to tell him, just so we can test his creativity... By the way, is Racer X REALLY holding a bingo game, or is this something or- iginal from him? Maily, I want to gnow this, because if he just made it up then I wasted a lot of money on raffle tickets from his partner. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. Message # 145. Reply to #144 Date: 02/28/89. Time: 20:55:53. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Whatever happened to message #143? RECEIVED WELL, I TOLD LYNX THAT IT INVOLVED TWO CONTROL CHARACTERS, AND HE FIGURED OUT ALL OF THE REST. HE EVEN FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO COLORS ALREADY. THAT MADE ME SUSPICIOUS. BUT SINCE I DID THE COLOR MOD THE ONLY PERSONS WHO HAVE ACCESS TO THE OBFUSCATE BULLETINS WHO CALLED ARE YOU AND LC. I EVEN CHECKED LOCKPICK AND MASTER BLASTER TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE TOO MUCH ACCESS. I HAVE TO SAY HE'S QUICK AT PICKING UP THAT STUFF. AS FAR AS I GNOW THERE ISN'T A BINGO GAME GOING ON, BUT THEN MAYBE THERE REALLY IS ONE GOING ON IN RACER'S MIND. C- - - Message # 147. Date: 03/02/89. Time: 02:59:47. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : NEW OBFUSCATED EDITOR COMMANDS I'VE ADDED SOME NEW AND POWERFUL COMMANDS. LYNX SUGGESTED THAT I ADD A COMMAND THAT WILL PAUSE FOR INPUT AND THEN JUMP TO CERTAIN LINES DEPENDING ON THE INPUT. I EXPANDED THE IDEA SO THAT IT WILL PAUSE FOR INPUT, AND JUMP OR DO ANY OF THE OTHER OBFUSCATED COMMANDS DEPENDING ON THE INPUT. (OR JUST PAUSE UNTIL A KEY IS PRESSED AND THEN DO NOTHING ONCE IT IS PRESSED.) THESE SHENNANIGANS INVOLVE THREE NEW COMMANDS: ^\^J ^\^Q ^\^T THEIR USAGE IS SEMI-COMPLICATED SO I WON'T REPRINT IT HERE. I HAVE ALREADY EXPANDED THE OBFUSCATE'S TRICKS BULLETIN AND ADDED INSTRUCTIONS FOR THESE COMMANDS. THEY'RE NOT THAT HARD THOUGH, LYNX WAS OVER HERE WHEN I PROGRAMMED IT IN - AND ONCE I EXPLAINED TO HIM HOW IT WORKS HE WAS BETTER AT IT THAN I AM. I HAVE ALSO ADDED A ^\^P COMMAND THAT INSERTS A SINGLE 1/2 SECOND PAUSE. OTHER CHANGES! YOU CAN NOW TYPE ^] INSTEAD OF ^\. THAT'S BECAUSE LORD CIRDAN'S TERMINAL PROGRAM USES ^\ FOR THE CAPTURE BUFFER (OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT). I ADDED ^] SO THAT HE CAN ALSO PARTICIPATE! YOU ARE NO LONGER PROMPTED FOR INPUT WITH THE ^\^I ^\^S COMMANDS. AND, THE INPUT DOESN'T ECHO TO THE SCREEN. THAT'S SO THAT THEY WON'T MESS UP THE SCREEN WHEN YOU ENTER THEM. C- - - Message # 149. Date: 03/02/89. Time: 14:23:34. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : A BUG I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN A BUG I RAN ACROSS. IT'S PARTICULARLY OBFUSCATED. I DISCOVERED THAT IF YOU WROTE AN INFINITE MESSAGE AND SAVED IT, AND THEN YOU DECIDED TO RE-EDIT THE MESSAGE AND YOU DECIDED TO KILL THE INFINITE LINE, ONCE YOU TRIED TO RE-SAVE THE MESSAGE - IT WOULD TRY TO SAVE AN INFINITE AMOUNT OF NOTHING. THE BUG HAS BEEN FIXED, BUT IT JUST GOES TO SHOW THAT NOTHING DOES EXIST. MY HARD DRIVE IS FULL OF IT NOW! IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE SOME NOTHING - I HAVE AN INFINITE SUPPLY AND AM WILLING TO LET IT GO CHEAP! ANIMATED SIGNOFF? (Y/N) : KC- - - C- - C- AW SHUCKS! C- - - Message # 151. Date: 03/03/89. Time: 13:40:36. Read 19 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : Interesante... RECEIVED Well, I have to comend Lynx on that, and given enough time, I would have found out things like that myself, so I don't doubt that it was possible for him to do it through trial and error. (When I noticed your input test, I tried it my- self, without first reading the instructions, and I eventually got to the ^\^Q part, but didn't get to the "IF" part, although I gnew it had something to do with ^\^T, because that combonation wanted input... Anyway, let's see if I've got it, now. You could do some pretty bizzare stuff with this... Shave and a haircut? That will be $1.95. Never mind... That was interesting... I think I need to reread it. I could have done better, but it was my first try. HACK: A question: what if you wanted to print one thing, if a certain thing was intputed, but you also wanted to print something else if a certain thing was NOT inputted. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. Message # 152. Reply to #151 Date: 03/05/89. Time: 14:01:54. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Interesante... RECEIVED YOU COULD DO IT WITH A LOT OF JUMP COMMANDS. IT WOULD BE KINDA LIKE A BASIC PROGRAM. IN BASIC IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. 100 A$=INKEYS$:IF A$="N" THEN GOTO 300 200 PRINT "WHATEVER":GOTO 400 300 PRINT "SOME OTHER THING" 400 END MESSAGE EQUIVALENT. A R E Y O U W E I R D ( Y / N ) (^\^Q)(^\^TN)(^\^J3) T O O B A D (^\^J4) J O I N T H E C L U B ! C- - - Message # 154. Date: 03/07/89. Time: 16:35:44. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : Oh, I see... RECEIVED I didn't realize what the JUMP command did... It's like a GOTO. When I read about it, I assumed that it meant the line on the SCREEN rather than in the message... Like, ^\^J20...Would send you down here, somewhere... Sort of like a POS(X) command on some computers. Now that I see the actual usage, I realize it's importance. I was even go- ing to suggest that you make a command like that, because I've been doing this: ^\^Ty Y ^\^Ty E ^\^Ty S ^\^Ty ! (SPACES ARE, OF COURSE, FOR CLARITY) All right... Hmm... I couldn't quite get that to work right... Anyway, the point is, I now see how this if-then works... I'll try not to overdo it. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. Message # 155. Date: 03/14/89. Time: 22:03:57. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : ^^ LORD CIRDAN COULDN'T USE THE ^] EITHER SO I CHANGED IT TO CONTROL CARAT (^^). I ALSO NOTICED SOMETHING INTERESTING. SINCE THE ^ IS A CAPITAL 6 YOU MIGHT THINK THAT THAT IN ORDER TO SEND CONTROL CARAT (^^) YOU MIGHT HAVE TO PRESS THE CONTROL KEY, SHIFT KEY, AND 6 KEY ALL AT THE SAME TIME. IN FACT, ON MY IBM COMPATIBLE KEYBOARD YOU DON'T HAVE TO PRESS THE SHIFT KEY. IT SENDS A ^^ ANYWAY. THIS FASCINATING PIECE OF BOREDOM IS BROUGHT TO YOU COURTESY OF HACK MAN C- - - Message # 156. Date: 03/16/89. Time: 15:20:38. Read 20 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : ALL Subj : Well, let's give it a try... Look, bells: Oh, I forgot. Humans can't see sound. :::Lord Cirdan +++++++++++ Ponder that! Message # 157. Date: 03/19/89. Time: 11:37:33. Read 32 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : Pickles. Subj : Gosh, such livelyness in the Temple. Hmm. I think we need something to do. Ok, let's play Story Time. This will be like the Story Board, only you can only right three sentences. The first sentence has to be the last sentence of the previous post. So if I wrote "Blikfrom, in a fit of depression, hopped into his galatic warp hopper, and sped off into space. Soon, he came upon a planet of pure pickles. He landed to investigate." Then you would write, "He landed to investigate. He tested the pickles, and they were good. Blikfrom made plans to become Pickle Tycoon of the Universe." And then someone else would post "Blikfrom made plans to become Pickle Tycoon of the Universe. ....." etc. Sound fun? :::Lord Cirdan Message # 158. Date: 03/24/89. Time: 16:11:20. Read 17 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : LC Subj : Cool... RECEIVED It was a cold day on Theolosis, but, then again, it was always cold on Theolosis. Damrogen Meretzky was glad to be leaving the God-awful planet of methane ice, successfully completing his research there. He climbed into the pale green landing craft, turning around to take a final look at the icy hell world, before launching to dock with the orbiting mothership above. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. -Gotta be sci-fi Message # 159. Date: 03/25/89. Time: 01:01:10. Read 19 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : Gav Subj : Well, RECEIVED He got into his pale green ship, and launched to dock with the mothership in orbit. As his slide into the docking area, something went wrong. Warning lights blinked on all over the place as an O-ring went faulty, and one engine exploded. Lord Cirdan::: Message # 160. Date: 03/25/89. Time: 19:18:50. Read 22 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Lord Cirdan Subj : Aren't we supposed to repeat the last line? RECEIVED Damrogen watched as the first of two engines exploded, damaging parts of the ship. Emergency airlocks closed, sealing off radioactive areas of the ship & depressurized areas that had opened to the vacuum of space. Meanwhile, the damaged computer system mistook his docked craft with a dangerous area, and would refuse to open the entrance airlock. !v!o!i!G!nsa!c -=@ Margin Master @=- #160. Message # 162. Reply to #160 Date: 03/27/89. Time: 04:44:28. Read 22 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Aren't we supposed to repeat the last line? RECEIVED AT ANY MOMENT THE FUEL TANK COULD BE BREACHED AND THE LAUNCH VEHICLE WOULD BECOME ON HELL OF AN ORBITAL FIREWORKS DISPLAY, TAKING THE MOTHER SHIP WITH IT. "NO TIME TO BE WASTED," THOUGHT DAMROGEN AS HE WHIPPED OUT HIS GONKULATOR AND BEGAN TO GO TO WORK. C- - - MY GOD! IT'S FULL OF STARS! * * ** *** Message # 163. Date: 04/14/89. Time: 06:45:50. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : LYNX SO, WHAT DO YOU THINK? LYNX IS RATHER IMPATIENT BY NOW AND I DON'T GNOW WHAT TO SAY. C- - - Message # 164. Date: 04/16/89. Time: 20:58:32. Read 22 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Hack Man Subj : Lynx RECEIVED Well, we seem to have lost most of our Obfuscates, but I think our opinions on Lynx were pretty clear. From what I could see, we voted negative, with hopes. I mentioned that Lynx seemed somewhat deserving, but really hasn't done much to prove himself. Something new, something different. Something like the fad with (((((((((((((((((((this)))))))))))))))))) or whatever... You gnow what I am talking about. The things that Obfuscates are coming up with all the time, but didn't copy from someone else. Like when I started margining, and tried a few subliminal messages, or whatever. Preferably nothing to do with just ex- ploiting your color-changing function. I can't describe exactly what I want to see from him, because if I gnew, it wouldn't qualify. However, until I see it, my vote is negative. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped. Message # 165. Date: 05/11/89. Time: 17:29:42. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK & other Obfuscates Subj : Quote-o-matic So, anyway, the problem is that a lot of non-Obfuscates want to be able to post quotes. I want to gnow what people's opinions are on this topic. Do you think only Obfuscates should be able to post quotes? Or, do you think anyone should be able to enter quotes? Perhaps if we give them the power to do so, we should include something to let us easily delete quotes, if we think they are unsuitable. Or, maybe we should just let them suggest quotes? Or, maybe we should forget it all together and leave things the way they are? Or, maybe we should all go fishing for a few days, and when somebody catches a few days on their fishing line, we'll use them to go fishing for fish? !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Mindless Matter @=- Message # 166. Reply to #165 Date: 05/13/89. Time: 14:13:24. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Quote-o-matic RECEIVED Let them tell us their quote in a public message, and if any of the obfuscates like any of them, they can put them in the quote-o-matic! Message # 167. Date: 05/17/89. Time: 14:23:39. Read 16 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : Gav Subj : I agree RECEIVED with Music Man. :::Lord Cirdan P.S. (The bit about the catfish was one of my favorites so far.... Maybe the Dillusionists are making a comeback...) Message # 168. Date: 05/17/89. Time: 17:08:28. Read 13 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Obfuscates Subj : All right... Looks like we all pretty much agree on the quote-thing. I personally thought that they should "submit" quotes to us, and then we'd have the posting option to put up the quote, also. But, what are you talking about the catfish? Did I miss something, or has my selective memory miss the "SELECT" key, and accidentally hit "DELETE"? !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- Message # 169. Date: 09/23/89. Time: 00:28:26. Read 14 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : all Subj : hey yo puppy room! It's just peachy to be back. Hack, I've got to sit down with you for several moments (several is usually four or more, and a moment is 3 minutes, so that comes to at least 12 minutes) and have you explain all these new features. As it is, I'm spending a heap of money on this phone call. l8r :CI Message # 170. Date: 06/26/89. Time: 12:41:27. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Dillies Subj : False Advertizing If there are 60 minutes in an hour, and 60 seconds in a minute, and sixty jiffys in a second (Wouldn't it follow that there should be sixty hours in a day? SOmeone goofed, but that's not my point), then that would mean that Jiffy Pop Pop Corn is using false advertizing, for they infer, through suggestive symbolism, that their corn pops in 1/60th of a second! This just cannot be! I'll bet david horowitz would love to hear about THAT! #170. Message # 171. Date: 07/13/89. Time: 23:08:13. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : TMM Subj : 60 JIFFYS RECEIVED DOES THAT MEAN THAT THERE ARE 60 INSTANTS IN A JIFFY? C- - - Message # 172. Reply to #171 Date: 08/02/89. Time: 19:59:46. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : 60 JIFFYS RECEIVED YES!! And between each instant is an infinite number of points!! (which are probably well taken!) Message # 173. Date: 08/03/89. Time: 22:36:37. Read 13 Times. From : Tasslehoff Burfoot To : Subj : Me RECEIVED I don't believe this message exists, therefore it does. >The Tazz< Message # 174. Reply to #173 Date: 08/04/89. Time: 02:17:32. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Tasslehoff Burfoot Subj : Me RECEIVED I THINK THIS MESSAGE DOES EXIST. THEREFORE YOU DON'T. C- - - Message # 175. Reply to #174 Date: 08/04/89. Time: 13:15:07. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : Me RECEIVED I don't think either of you exist, therefore, you don't! Message # 176. Reply to #175 Date: 08/04/89. Time: 15:10:32. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Me RECEIVED I don't think the subop of this board exists, and he doesn't! !!! GAVISCON !!! Message # 178. Reply to #176 Date: 08/05/89. Time: 21:03:54. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Me RECEIVED I'M SURE THAT I DON'T EXIST. DOES THAT MEAN THAT I DON'T HAVE TO GO TO WORK TOMORROW? C- - - Message # 179. Reply to #178 Date: 08/07/89. Time: 01:33:13. Read 15 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : Me RECEIVED Just because you don't exist, it doesn't mean your job doesn't exist. There- fore, you must get up and do it, even if it's not actually you doing it, but the part of you that would exist, if you did. (Which you don't) Tasslehoff: I don't think you exist, so don't pretend to be there. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- Message # 180. Reply to #179 Date: 08/08/89. Time: 20:49:35. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Me RECEIVED If I existed, I would probably agree with you. (but I don't, so I won't!) #180. Message # 181. Date: 08/09/89. Time: 02:38:18. Read 15 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Existors/Nonexistors Subj : A question... I pretty much gnow who exists out of you, and who doesn't. Now, could someone tell me if I exist? I need an external opinion. !!! GAVISCON !!! -I'm pink, therefore I'm spam. Message # 182. Reply to #181 Date: 08/09/89. Time: 04:40:45. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : A question... RECEIVED ACTUALLY I THINK YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO DOES EXIST. YOU ARE ALL ALONE. A FIGMENT OF OUR IMAGINATION. C- - - Message # 183. Date: 08/10/89. Time: 13:31:48. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Hack Man Subj : Uh oh! RECEIVED Boy! Then I feel pretty silly talking to all of you! That's terrible. To think I'm the only one here who exists... I feel so alone. I guess the rest of you are all bad special effects, hm? !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Figment of someone's imagination @=- Message # 184. Reply to #183 Date: 08/16/89. Time: 20:03:27. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Uh oh! RECEIVED EXTREMELY BAD. AND YOU GNOW WHAT. I HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE THE FIGMENT OF A CERTIAN WHITE RAT'S IMAGINATION. C- - - P.S. AND RIGHT NOW THEY ARE FEEDING HIM OVERDOSES OF RED DYE #7 Message # 185. Reply to #182 Date: 08/17/89. Time: 00:35:06. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : A question... RECEIVED I thought he was a pigment of his imagination! Message # 186. Reply to #184 Date: 08/17/89. Time: 00:35:58. Read 16 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : Uh oh! RECEIVED Red dye #7? I gues that explains the shade of the pigment! Message # 187. Date: 08/19/89. Time: 03:25:03. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Me Subj : Existance Well this is a fine thing, then! I guess, for all intensive BBS privledges, I'll just have to cease existing... (And it has nothing to do with Berkeley) !!! GAVISCON !!! -Before I go, I'd like you all to consider Racer X for Obfuscate. I think he's been looking promising lately. Message # 188. Date: 09/16/89. Time: 23:13:00. Read 25 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : The New Obfuscates! Subj : Greetings! PERMIFIED Hail, and well met. I'd like to greet all the new obfuscates, and may you all find a probiscus underlying the corporation. But that's not the point. And neither is that. Being the most senior member of the obfuscates, and founder of the name, (hah, I bet the rest of you didn't even gnow that, did you? Yup, looked it up in a thesaurus all by myself) I think that Hack's and Music Man's choices are good ones. Therefore. Lynx, Peggy, Racer X, and Yellowbeard do hereby have the infamous non- distinction of putting the --==OBFUSCATE==-- symbol beneath their name, if they so choose to do so. Please gnote the way it's supposed to be done, though, I've seen a few that weren't quite right. Anyway, there you are. Yeah, right there. HACK Gnote: Give them full access to this board, kinda silly that they can only read. Especially since there will be nothing TO read if you don't give them write access. Also, I'd like to apologize to Lynx, for our ridiculousness. We were being entirely too amoeba-like. So, maybe you were wondering who else had this dubious distinction? Well, me too, let's see if I can remember: Lex Luthor: Founder of Dillusion (absent) Lord Cirdan: Founder of the Gnome's Castle (psuedo-absent) HACK MAN: First Hackbot Obfuscate The Music Man: First Insane Obfuscate Gaviscon Aviscenna: First Dead Time-travelling Obfuscate (absent) Frammis Man: Founder of the Partisans of Parenthesis (absent) Cleric Ilsaram: First Obfuscate awarded the : for nifty stories. (absent) Pizza Man: First Pizza-related Obfuscate Tasslehoff Burfoot: Least Gnown Obfuscate Lynx: Most Tortured by his Nomination Obfuscate Peggy: First female Obfuscate Racer X: First Obfuscate to have a one letter last name. YellowBeard: First Obfuscate that was Most Gnoted for his folicles. Did I miss anyone? If so, I'm entirely sorry, and you have every right to send me all your cash....all your cash...all your cash...all your cash... all your cash...all your cash... Ok, you can wake up now. You will remember nothing but the part about the cash. L8r... :::Lord Cirdan Message # 189. Date: 09/16/89. Time: 23:56:13. Read 19 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : Hack Man Subj : By the way... RECEIVED I still have that little piece of paper that says: HACK MAN WAS HERE C - - - The donation was truly appreciated, though it got me no where. Perhaps I should send it back to you? To the rest of you: The Gnome's Castle was run on an Apple //e, with only two disk drives. That is approximately only 256K of disk space. Just imagine all the fun stuff I coulda done with what I have now... sigh. Well, maybe I'll live in Ventura County again some day, and the Gnome's Castle will return. Sigh. On the other hand, I am attempting to start up something similar on a computer on Internet. Internet is a network that allows you to log onto any other computer in the network (and there are thousands) as long as you have an account there. Also, you can chat with anyone else on the net, and do other neat things. I strongly urge you guys to see what can be done about getting a public mainframe that is connectedtou Internet in your county. I've heard that Santa Monica has already done that, and anyone can get an account there. Anyway, the cool thing is that you could all call there, and have a real-time chat, even with me and Gaviscon. So anyway, maybe you should look into it. L8r... :::Lord Cirdan Message # 191. Date: 12/14/89. Time: 05:07:07. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : DOINK ONE OF THE NEW OBFUSCATES WENT AND REMOVED POSTING ACCESS TO THE SUB BOARD FROM SEVERAL OF THE OTHER NEW OBFUSCATES WITHOUT REMOVING HIS OWN ACCESS AT THE SAME TIME. I'VE GONE AHEAD AND CORRECTED THE SITUATION, SO IF ANYBODY NOTICED THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO POST AND THEN SUDDENLY THEY WERENT ABLE TO, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO SO AGAIN. C- - - Message # 192. Date: 12/15/89. Time: 23:17:35. Read 15 Times. From : Lynx To : HACK MAN Subj : RECEIVED Huh? Who are you refering to? I was never able to post here (or at least if I was I never did that I can recall), and then when you made me a co-sysop I gave myself write access, because I thought I was supposed to have it. Anyway, what's going on? Lynx -confused Message # 193. Reply to #191 Date: 12/16/89. Time: 18:04:29. Read 14 Times. From : peggy To : HACK MAN Subj : DOINK RECEIVED Oh, my gosh!!! after ALL these months...and I'm stumped for words!! Message # 194. Date: 12/24/89. Time: 13:29:25. Read 15 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : recipient Subj : hmm The thing is in the thing. Wakka wakka wakka. Deeds not words. This is this. And vairious other assorted smegma. :CI --==youknow==-- Comments : NO WAY!=1 Message # 195. Date: 12/28/89. Time: 00:32:10. Read 13 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : A Capital N Subj : Tomatoes Um.... Oh, never mind. :::Lord Cirdan Well... Nah, forget it. Or froget it, for that matter. Message # 196. Date: 12/31/89. Time: 03:44:33. Read 16 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : Lord Cirdan Subj : tom's mate's toes RECEIVED Which matter was it you were speaking, metaphorically, of? :Ci :cI :ci :CI danglingallovertheplace Message # 197. Reply to #194 Date: 01/14/90. Time: 19:10:55. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Cleric Ilsaram Subj : hmm RECEIVED Smegma? Message # 198. Date: 03/31/90. Time: 16:54:00. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Subj : RECEIVED This sub is quickly becoming quite fugacious! Such evanescence is intollerable! Post! Message # 199. Date: 07/12/90. Time: 01:47:42. Read 18 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : DOINK Subj : Wow! A post! Tah dah! I really meant it when I said I'd post everywhere! Well, I'd just like to say that, every though she's gone and we'll never ever hear from her again, I believe that Candy ought to be granted Obfusactory status. Personally, I'd like to turn this into the Dillusionist equivilant of a one-sided holy war. I'll go to all lengths to see that she's posthumously granted the title she deserves. I plan to chop my own status in two, lending part of it to her memory. Then, I will painstakingly grow back the small part I had to give up until I am once again a full Obfuscate. Then, I'll lend out another small part, and so on... That way, I will eventually grow back enough to create a 100% full Obfuscate and give it to candy. I've always wanted to go through pain and sacrifice for a girl who would never realize my dedication. It's the type of thing good dramas are made of... !!! GAVISCO -=@ Margin M --==OBFUSCAT Message # 200. Date: 07/12/90. Time: 23:28:25. Read 39 Times. From : Lynx To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Gav's one-sided holy war... RECEIVED Who's Candy? °±²Û²±°L °±²Û²±°y °±²Û²±°n °±²Û²±°x --==OBFUSCATE==-- #200. Message # 201. Reply to #200 Date: 07/13/90. Time: 00:04:17. Read 18 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Lynx Subj : Gav's one-sided holy war... RECEIVED Who's candy? Why... Don't you remember? Do we forget so soon? She was the ultimate in raw Obfuscate material. She was like an anti-Hack, usually typing only in lowercase. It was only a year ago! I feel so... so... torn when I think that her memory only rests with me... Hm. She DID exist, didn't she? I mean, I didn't just imagine it all, did I? True, she's not in the user list any more, and TRUE, I can't find any old messages in the Obfuscatorium that were written by her, but... No, I refuse to go mad! It's the wrong season for that sort of thing. I usually go mad in the spring! !!! GAVISCO -=@ Margin M --==OBFUSCAT Message # 202. Reply to #201 Date: 07/13/90. Time: 17:21:56. Read 17 Times. From : Lynx To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Gav's one-sided holy war... RECEIVED Actually, you see, you are just imagining all this right now... Lynx Message # 203. Date: 07/15/90. Time: 15:17:00. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Imagination RECEIVED That can't be true. If I'm just imagining this, where am I really? !!! GAVISCO -=@ Margin M --==OBFUSCAT Message # 204. Reply to #201 Date: 07/16/90. Time: 05:25:10. Read 17 Times. From : Racer X To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Gav's one-sided holy war... RECEIVED I don't remember Candy. Did she leave before I started calling? I've been calling since January of '89. Racer X Message # 205. Reply to #203 Date: 07/16/90. Time: 05:27:01. Read 17 Times. From : Racer X To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Imagination RECEIVED If you only open your eyes, you'll see the rubber room. Racer X Message # 206. Date: 07/16/90. Time: 17:14:13. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Racer X Subj : candy RECEIVED Really? Then I don't think I'll open my eyes. It's much more fun here. As for candy, I believe you were around at the same time, as was Lynx, Peggy, and all the "newer" Obfuscates. I remember reading old Temple posts about a big debate as who we should let become Obfuscates, and I'd always supported candy, often solely if I remember correctly... Which just goes to support the idea that I imagined the whole thing. How annoying. !!! GAVISCON -=@ Margin Ma --==OBFUSCATE -Growing Back Message # 207. Reply to #206 Date: 07/17/90. Time: 23:32:50. Read 15 Times. From : Racer X To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : candy RECEIVED I wish I could open my eyes and close them again so I could see something better. That would be breaking the barriers of two realities (catatonia from within a catatonic trip). If you think this is fun, think what could be on the other side. Racer X -=]Obfuscate[=- -Achieve mindbend. Trip The Hex. Message # 208. Reply to #207 Date: 07/19/90. Time: 00:21:47. Read 17 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Racer X Subj : candy RECEIVED I think that if I were able to "open my eyes" I probably wouldn't be able to shut them again. It's like waking up from a dream, then trying to go back to sleep and continue it again... If I were really in a padded room right now, and I were to just "open my eyes" and return to sanity, I don't think it would be possible to get back here. (The same goes for any other sort of "higher consciousness" you might think of rather than the padded room scen- ario... "Brain in a jar", or "Detached consciousness", or "Kansas"...) Personally, I'd be afraid of opening my eyes. If whatever is there is extreme enough to make me imagine this place, I sure as hell wouldn't want to go back! Now, if candy were there, then maybe I'd chance it to make sure that she DOES exist and that instead of imagining her, I just imagined everything else. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- Message # 209. Reply to #208 Date: 07/20/90. Time: 15:20:17. Read 16 Times. From : Racer X To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : candy RECEIVED Maybe Candy opened her eyes. Maybe we all will at some time. The shock of being hit by an eighteen-wheeler would probably do it. Racer X Message # 210. Reply to #209 Date: 07/21/90. Time: 00:52:30. Read 14 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Racer X Subj : candy RECEIVED It shouldn't work that way. If candy "opened her eyes" then why do I still remember her, but everyone else doesn't? Personally, I'll go with the idea that candy is "real" and that all of you are "imagined" and that I'm just blending the two worlds. Hmm... I always thought that I gnew who all my imaginary friends were. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- #210. Message # 211. Reply to #210 Date: 07/23/90. Time: 00:47:38. Read 14 Times. From : Racer X To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : candy RECEIVED Maybe you and Candy are (were) (will be) in the same rubber room. She could've awakened and effected you before-whatever they do to those that awaken. You gnow of her from reality. She never existed in your Dreamstate. If she was not in your imagination with the rest of us, how do you expect us to remember her? Racer X Message # 212. Date: 07/23/90. Time: 21:53:54. Read 14 Times. From : peggy To : Gaviscon Subj : Candy I find it SO utterly fascinating that no sooner does someone bring up the subject of Candy, then voila!! she appears! Me thinks her alter ego sent her a message saying it was time for her to reappear. Strange.....strange......strange................ Message # 214. Reply to #201 Date: 08/05/90. Time: 23:23:34. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Gav's one-sided holy war... RECEIVED CANDY? WHO'S CANDY? C- - - ????? Message # 216. Reply to #199 Date: 08/05/90. Time: 23:44:42. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Wow! A post! RECEIVED BUT YOU NEED PERFECT CONDITIONS TO GROW AN OBFUSCATE. YOU CAN'T JUST PLANT ONE ANYWHERE. C- - - Message # 217. Reply to #208 Date: 08/05/90. Time: 23:45:24. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : candy RECEIVED ALL OF THIS IS A DREAM. INCLUDING YOU. I ONCE OPENED MY EYES AND SAW THE REAL REALITY BEHIND IT. IT WAS KIND OF LIKE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU CLOSE YOUR EYES AND PRESS ON YOUR EYEBALLS ONLY IN 3D. I CLOSED MY EYES RIGHT AWAY AND I WAS OK. ANYWAY, I FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO IT. WHAT YOU DO IS YOU GO TO SLEEP FOR AWHILE AND THEN YOU WAKE UP. HOWEVER, YOU HAVE TO WAKE UP WITH OUT REALIZING THAT YOU ARE AWAKE, THEN YOU OPEN YOUR EYES WITHOUT REALIZING THAT YOU HAVE OPENED THEM. C- - - Message # 218. Date: 12/25/90. Time: 17:58:54. Read 20 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : ALL, a confession Subj : CANDY!!!! Candy? Candy was, and is, me! I have a nasty habit of calling as other users. I got bored, so Candy called. A few suspected, but none were certain... Oh well, it's out I've confessed (and feel SO much better) Gav: Candy thanks you for your support Everyone else: Candy gives you the finger for forgetting her! But Then: If "a" candy has called in the last 8 months, it wasn't me. It's not rare that I log on as another....remember JOE BLOW? I've been some of the most popluar female users (heh heh heh)!!! (Why female? because there's so few of 'em!) Dillusion at it's best..... (Peggers gets points for gnowing, instinctively, that she was not a she!) The Music Man -=obfuscate=- So much for Candy calling again.... (I wonder if they'll be able to figure out who I have been calling as for the last eight months....................?) Message # 219. Date: 12/25/90. Time: 18:06:48. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : All Dillusionary its Subj : The SUB-OP What do you say we all apply ourselves and make the non-existent sub-op existent?? What do you suppose it would exist as? Message # 220. Reply to #218 Date: 12/27/90. Time: 23:31:04. Read 20 Times. From : Racer X To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : CANDY!!!! RECEIVED Who's Candy? Racer X/WFM #220. Message # 221. Reply to #219 Date: 12/27/90. Time: 23:31:53. Read 16 Times. From : Racer X To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : The SUB-OP RECEIVED The Temple subop. Racer X/WFM Message # 222. Reply to #220 Date: 12/28/90. Time: 01:05:59. Read 22 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Racer X Subj : CANDY!!!! RECEIVED You people sure forget quickly! Does anything ever change here? It's like everyone is in a state of obfuscated semi-existence! Same place, same thing..... Then what? I noticed how people ignore messages that are not to or from them, or of any obvious interest to them. Some people don't even read all the sub-boards! It's so typical, we only read what we want to read...and where do we end up? Same place, same thing.... So, has anyone thought of any new discussion topics since I've been gone? DOes anybody remember me? Did I ever exist here? Or, uh, was that just a bad dream?? Message # 223. Reply to #222 Date: 12/28/90. Time: 15:03:05. Read 20 Times. From : Racer X To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : CANDY!!!! RECEIVED That's a good question. Who are you? Are you sure you're not really this Candy person now pretending to be The Music Man? Racer X/WFM Message # 224. Date: 12/31/90. Time: 14:37:01. Read 24 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : candy Subj : ARGH, I say, Argh! My heart is torn asunder and my brain is melded together! How dare you mess with my mind that way? I have enough trouble getting my mind suitably messed myself. Wouldn't you gnow that the devotion of my life turns out to be com- pletely unreal?!??! Is this simple a cruel joke cast upon me from the Fates? Am I destined to live such a fantasy world that even I cannot tell any of my imaginary friends from the simply irrational? Oh depression depression! I'll devote the rest of my existance here on out to poetry of dispair and deeply emotional cinema dramas. snif. (You WOULD have to catch me in a deeply romantic, emotionally turbulent per- iod in my vacation...) !!! GAVISCON !!! SCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- n Master @=- -Trapped on Terra on Terra -Now what am I going to do as an Obfuscate and a half? I was saving up little pieces of myself to give to candy to grant her Obfuscate status, and have since then grown it back, but am now stuck with all those pieces I have saved... Message # 226. Reply to #224 Date: 01/02/91. Time: 01:16:54. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : ARGH, I say, Argh! RECEIVED SAVE THOSE EXTRA PORTIONS OF OBFUSCATION IN YOUR BELLY BUTTON. THE BELLY BUTTON MOLD MAY BE ABLE TO UTILIZE IT TO EVOLVE INTO SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. C- - - P.S. I SUSPECTED IT ALL ALONG. Message # 227. Reply to #224 Date: 01/02/91. Time: 04:28:54. Read 19 Times. From : Racer X To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : ARGH, I say, Argh! RECEIVED So who is candy anyway? Racer X/WFM Message # 228. Date: 01/03/91. Time: 17:14:50. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Anyone real Subj : candy Apparrantly candy isn't. candy didn't exist. That's who candy is. candy is just an idea, a thought. I may not have any real friends, it seems. I can no longer judge between real and imaginary. All I gnow is that richer will be the world of dramatic poetry of dispair, snif The only way candy may live is as an imaginary, and with The Music Man's per- mission, perhaps I shall one day imagine her myself, along with my other im- aginary friends. Maybe I'll even let my half-Obfuscatism grow into a full one so as to give it to her. Think of it... The first imaginary Obfuscate! !!! GAVISCON !!! SCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- n Master @=- -) FTAS (- (- -Trapped on Terra. on Terra. Message # 230. Date: 01/05/91. Time: 03:40:28. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : OBFUSCATRONIX SOME OF YOU TRYING TO DO OBFUSCATED STUFF IN YOUR MESSAGES HAVE PROBABLY NOTICED THAT IT ACTS WIERDLY. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GNOW ABOUT THIS AGAIN SINCE IT'S MORE POPULAR ALL OF A SUDDEN. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE VT100 MODE IS ALWAYS IN INSERT MODE WHEN YOU ARE TYPING IN A MESSAGE AND THEN WHEN IT PLAYS BACK A MESSAGE IT'S IN OVERTYPE MODE. THIS MAKES MESSAGES WITH BACKSPACING IN IT LOOK REALLY WIERD WHILE YOU ARE TYPING THEM IN BUT STILL LOOK NORMAL WHEN YOU READ THEM BACK. THE EASIEST FIX FOR THIS PROBLEM IS TO USE ANSI MODE (BUT MOST IBM PROGRAMS DON'T WORK RIGHT IN ANSI MODE BECAUSE IBM ANSI OMITS THE INSERT CHARACTER COMMAND (IN THIS CASE I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU TEMPORARILY CHANGE YOUR TERMINAL TYPE TO "SLOW ANSI" BEFORE YOU START TO ENTER A MESAGE WITH BACKSPACING IN IT (SLOW ANSI SHOULD WORK OK, EVEN WHILE YOUR TERM PROGRAM IS STILL IN VT100 EMULATION MODE))) WHILE TYPING BACKSPACED MESSAGES THAT WAY YOUR MESSAGE WILL LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THE FINAL PRODUCT WHILE YOU ARE TYPING IT IN. C- - - RFSOP PRESIDENT OBFUSCITRONIX P.S. I LIKE LYNX'S IDEA TO CALL IT OBFUSCATRONIX. FOR ALL OF YOU THAT DIDN'T GO TO COMDEX WITH US (WHICH IS ALL OF YOU) OBFUSCATRONIX IS THE NAME OF OUR IMAGINARY COMPANY. THE NAME WAS QUITE WELL RECIEVED BY THE WAY. SINCE IT IS AN IMAGINARY COMPANY, I THINK I WILL MAKE CANDY THE SECRETARY TREASURER. #230. Message # 231. Reply to #230 Date: 01/05/91. Time: 15:17:32. Read 22 Times. From : Lynx To : HACK MAN Subj : OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED I was wondering about that.... Okay, so Candy is in the company now... can I have an affair with her behind Gav's back? Lynx VP in Charge of Research, Obfuscatronix --==OBFUSCATE==-- p.s. Hack, I though of a nifty Idea... why not make infinite messages terminate to the next line of the message So that you can do some neat-o infinite thingy, then clean it up on a line following it... I say this mainly because 90% of the time I end up reading my funky messages and get stuck with some terrible color combos like green on light blue. Also, it would be neat to have it that way for other reasons. Message # 232. Reply to #231 Date: 01/05/91. Time: 16:27:29. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Lynx Subj : OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE THINGY ABOUT HAVING IT TERMINATE ON THE NEXT LINE OF THE MESSAGE. I MEAN IF YOU MAKE AN INFINITELY REPEATING LINE THEN HOW IS IT GOING TO EVER GET TO THE NEXT LINE? C- - - Message # 233. Reply to #231 Date: 01/06/91. Time: 07:26:00. Read 22 Times. From : Racer X To : Lynx Subj : OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED By the way, did the thing I tried work all right? I'm back in ASCII again, so I don't gnow. Racer X/WFM Message # 234. Date: 01/06/91. Time: 20:46:56. Read 19 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Real people? Subj : candy Well, I'm happy that candy is finally receiving the due credit that she deserves. I think she'd make an excellent president, and on her behalf, I approve and thank you. As for you, Lynx, I heard that! Next time I suggest you address me as that you never gnow what's real again! !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- Message # 235. Reply to #233 Date: 01/07/91. Time: 00:18:30. Read 22 Times. From : Lynx To : Racer X Subj : OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED yeah it kinda worked... but next time you should put a clear screen at the beginning. if the reader was at the bottom of the screen when they got to your message it got slightly fudged Lynx Message # 236. Reply to #235 Date: 01/07/91. Time: 04:32:17. Read 18 Times. From : Racer X To : Lynx Subj : OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED I'll have to work on that. If I can figure this out as well as I figured MCI, I might be able to do some neat stuff. And Obfuscatronix has many more features. Racer X/WFM Message # 238. Date: 01/08/91. Time: 00:55:46. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : USERS NAME OK. THE CAT'S OUT OF THE BAG. THAT'S RIGHT. I WASN'T PERSONALLY PRONOUNCING DOINKNOBNESS UPON YOU. I'VE ADDED A NEW FEATURE. YOU CAN NOW QUOTE THE READERS NAME AND PASSWORD. NAME = ^\^O PASSWORD = ^\^W WHEN YOU TYPE THIS THE NAME OR PASSWORD WILL NOT IMMEDIATELY APPEAR ON THE SCREEN. LEAVE PLENTY OF ROOM ON THAT LINE SINCE SOME NAMES AND PASSWORDS ARE LONGER THAN OTHERS. C- - - Message # 239. Date: 01/08/91. Time: 10:36:01. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : SPEAKING OF THE 3AM CLUB I WAS PLANNING ON HAVING A MEETING THIS FRIDAY THE 11TH. C- - - Message # 240 -- Private. #240. Message # 241. Date: 01/08/91. Time: 22:22:55. Read 26 Times. From : Lynx To : All OBFUSCATEs Subj : Doink! I move to approve this (see figure a) as our new official OBFUSCATE sign-off. figure a. --==OBFUSCATE==-- (Note: It is only a minor change, and we could even have different colors for different ranks just like in star trek TNG, or just have a different color for each major person (all, of course), just like in Star Trek TNG(GRIN). ) Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 242. Reply to #241 Date: 01/08/91. Time: 22:54:50. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Lynx Subj : Doink! RECEIVED IS THAT A MACRO OR DO YOU TYPE IT IN EVERY TIME? C- - - P.S. HOW DO YOU GENERATE THE ^H? Message # 243. Reply to #241 Date: 01/10/91. Time: 00:52:24. Read 17 Times. From : Lynx To : Lynx Subj : Doink! RECEIVED It's a macro... and I gererate the ^H the same way I generate the ^M at the end of the macro. I Type a '^' then an 'H' and wow, there it is! Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 245. Reply to #243 Date: 01/13/91. Time: 03:13:57. Read 22 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Lynx Subj : Doink! RECEIVED YEAH, I FIGURED IT OUT RIGHT AFTER I HUNG UP. DUH. UC- - - C- - C- C BURP! --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 246. Date: 02/23/91. Time: 01:05:14. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : NEW OBFUSCATES READ THE OBFUSCA BULLETINS ON THE MAIN MENU. C- - - Message # 247. Reply to #29 Date: 02/25/91. Time: 06:27:06. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : What if C-A-T really spelled "DOG" RECEIVED PERMIFIED Thot wos preggy daal, Musid Mon. Bug ig gokes o while go cype in ghis dace. +++Trovebusger --==ABFUSDOGE==-- Message # 248. Reply to #89 Date: 02/25/91. Time: 20:10:21. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : SYSOP Subj : Ticketstubs... RECEIVED Were they sort of like bugs, or more like kumquats hanging in a tree and swaying with the wind? +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 249. Reply to #97 Date: 02/25/91. Time: 20:15:04. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : SNARGLEDEGOP RECEIVED a. Back in my freshman high school summer Intro to Physical Science class, our entire class destroyed 126 test tubes (yes, we kept records). I guess you could say we had a fondness for test tubes, although it was kind of strange. b. Neither green nor yellow, but I stick them in the refrigerator until they're black! c. An alien just cleared my cranial memory, so I forgot the last question. +++who am I buster? --==Ob Who Skates?==-- DOINK! Oh, now I remember... I wish I didn't! Message # 250. Reply to #103 Date: 02/25/91. Time: 20:21:13. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : NEAT NEW THINGY RECEIVED Do you mean if I do a ^/ ^V, I can tell you that you suck / times over? +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- I bet I blew that, but I'm trying. Very trying... #250. Message # 251. Reply to #132 Date: 02/25/91. Time: 20:37:18. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : More yak facts RECEIVED Yak! Yak! Yak! All you do is yak! +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE = = - - I ' v e s l i p p e d a c u r s o r . . . Message # 252. Reply to #249 Date: 02/25/91. Time: 22:16:54. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : SNARGLEDEGOP RECEIVED OK. YOU PASS AS A MERE WIERDO AND NOT A COMMUNIST MUTANT FROM OUTER SPACE. C- - - Message # 253. Reply to #250 Date: 02/25/91. Time: 22:17:52. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : NEAT NEW THINGY RECEIVED NOT QUITE. THAT'S THE OBFUSCATRONIX THAT WE USE TO CALCULATE THE VALUE OF PI TO INFINITY DIGITS. C- - - Message # 254. Reply to #241 Date: 02/26/91. Time: 18:46:23. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Lynx Subj : Doink! RECEIVED Uh, what color is it? +++Gravebuster --==in obfuscated monochrome==-- Message # 255. Date: 02/26/91. Time: 18:49:07. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Rules For Electing New Obfuscates RECEIVED You probably were watching me. I was reading messages 80-210 on this board, most of which were arguments as to whether Lynx or Gary the Gallant were ever obfuscates, and if Lynx, Peggy and Racer X should become obfuscates or not. There were never any hard and fast rules laid down for becoming obfuscates, but there was a general consensus that the initiate had to perform unique obfuscation. +++Gravebuster --==i'M pReTtY uNiQuE, tOo==-- Message # 256. Reply to #254 Date: 02/27/91. Time: 09:47:19. Read 14 Times. From : Lynx To : Gravebuster Subj : Doink! RECEIVED Well... the --== and the ==-- are just white or green on your screen. And the OBFUSCATE part is BLUE or green on your screen. Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 257. Reply to #256 Date: 02/27/91. Time: 11:43:25. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Lynx Subj : Doink! RECEIVED Actually, the --== and ==-- are light green, and the OBFUSCATE is dark green, but that only details what you already haven't said. +++Gravebuster --==monochrome is boring==-- --==WAH!==-- Message # 258. Reply to #241 Date: 02/28/91. Time: 04:06:13. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Lynx Subj : Doink! RECEIVED IT'S A GOOD IDEA. BUT IT GOES TO FAR. I THINK THIS IS MUCH BETTER. --==OBFUSCATE==-- UC- - - C- - C- C P.S. I'M RED. P.P.S. 3 SPACES IS JUST TOO REACTIONARY. Message # 259. Date: 03/02/91. Time: 13:17:59. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : I was kinda wondering... RECEIVED Thank you for using your power of martial law to install me and UB as obfuscates. But I was wondering if it was at all possible to get the founder of obfuscation, Lord Cirdan, to call and congratulate us. His acknowledgement of our obfuscation would be so obfuscating... +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 260. Date: 03/02/91. Time: 13:20:59. Read 24 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : /Im g/oi/n tq giv it /a tr/i /x/e n/ombet iz v/ar/e difik/ult tq /qz at f_st tr/i. B/i /x/e w/a, /i n/otist /x/arz n/o let_ listed nekst tq _/t (/xats w/i f_st, let_ and _/t @l hav /xat "_" in /xem). @ls/o, iz lo/n /o speld /o? And iz /x/e /swo s*nd speld wi/t u? Aft_ aw/il, r/iti/n in n/ombet bekumz /ez/e_... +++Gr/avbust_ --==OBF/QSKIT==-- or iz it --==OBFQSKIT==--? #260. Message # 261. Date: 03/02/91. Time: 13:35:23. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : For The Next Weqk... I sugqest that we substitutq the letqer "q" for alq silent or unqecesqary letqers, except of coqrsq for silent "k", wqich a "g" wilq continuq to be the standard. I sugqest restricting this practicq to this subqoqrd and the Obfuscatorium, so that we wilq demonstratq our obfuscation (?) for thosq qho wquld apqreciatq it. +++Gravqbuster --==OBFUSCATQ==-- Message # 263. Reply to #259 Date: 03/03/91. Time: 07:35:51. Read 16 Times. From : Racer X To : Gravebuster Subj : I was kinda wondering... RECEIVED Ha! A typical gnee-jerk reaction to the situation. You and UB just lucked out! Racer X/WFM --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 264. Reply to #263 Date: 03/03/91. Time: 12:07:31. Read 12 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Racer X Subj : I was kinda wondering... RECEIVED Yqu'rq welcomq, toq! +++Gravqbuster --==OBFUSCATQ==-- Message # 266. Reply to #259 Date: 03/03/91. Time: 16:14:48. Read 11 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : I was kinda wondering... RECEIVED ACTUALQY I WAS THE ONE WQO CAMQ UP WITH THE OBFUSCATQON CONCEPT - THIS WAS HOWEVQR INSPIRQD BY THE DILQUSQON CONCEPT OF LEX LUTHOR, LORD CIRDANS CO-SYSOP (I THINK HE'S IN JAPAN RIQQT NOW (NOT SURQ)). C- - - Message # 267. Reply to #260 Date: 03/03/91. Time: 16:17:44. Read 12 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : /Im g/oi/n tq giv it /a tr/i RECEIVED HIR AR SUM KOREK/SUNS G/OI/N = G/OIN/NG N/OMBET = N/OMUBET V/AR/E = VER/E F_ST = FRST OR F/URST (N/OTIS /X/E N/Q (/U = (EA)RTH) DEFINI/SUN. /EVEN /X/O /I /TI/NK KALIFORN/EUNS KAN'T PR/ON*NS IT, L/ENKS (TUF N/AM TQ SPEL) DISUGR/ES SO /I P$T IT IN /XER) /X/ARZ = /XERZ R/ITI/N = R/ITI/NG ALS/O /I S/A OBF/QSK/AT BUT YQ KAN S/A OBF/QSKIT /OR OBFQSKIT /OR /EVEN /OBFQSK/AT IF YQ W@NT. C- - - HAK MAN P.S. /I S/A T/OM/AT/O AND YQ S/A T/OM@T/O P.P.S. WUT IZ /A /SWA? /I NEVER DID FIGYUR /XAT *T. Message # 269. Reply to #267 Date: 03/05/91. Time: 05:55:15. Read 12 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : /Im g/oi/n tq giv it /a tr/i RECEIVED Schwa! The "a" sounds likq the "o" in pot morq than any of the other sounds. I apqreciatq the corqections. /ta/nks! +++Gravqbuster --==OBF/QSKIT==-- Message # 270. Reply to #263 Date: 03/05/91. Time: 22:37:18. Read 13 Times. From : Unka Buck To : Racer X Subj : I was kinda wondering... RECEIVED Like the baseball players always say, "It's better to be lucky than good." -UNKA BUCK- -Lucky SOB- -and most important... --==OBFUSCATE==-- #270. Message # 271. Date: 03/15/91. Time: 19:30:37. Read 12 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Suggestions RECEIVED I have a couple of suggestions for new obfuscatricks. First, how about a control character that would temporarily disable the "more" prompt for one message? Used together with the ^\^I trick, it will cause the effect to continuosly scroll. Second, is it possible to make your own character? If so, and if you're ambitious enough, how about creating a control character so Unka Buck's raspberry punctuation mark would appear? It would be a neat hack. +++Gravebuster --==anyway, I'd thought I'd mention them==-- Message # 272. Reply to #271 Date: 03/16/91. Time: 21:48:42. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Suggestions RECEIVED THIS IS A TEST OF THE TEMPORARY DISABLEMENT OF THE MORE PROMPT. ALSO IT IS A TEST OF THE NEW RANDOM COLOR OBFUSCATRIX. DOINK! Message # 273. Date: 03/16/91. Time: 21:54:23. Read 25 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : OK HERE IT IS. DISABLE MORE PROMPT FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE MESSAGE = ^\^Y GENERATE A RANDOM FOREGROUND AND BACKGROUND COLOR = ^\^Z UC- - - C- - C- C --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 274. Date: 03/17/91. Time: 07:47:05. Read 16 Times. From : Racer X To : HACK MAN Subj : Another Suggestion RECEIVED How about putting a little something in that allows part of a public message to be sent only to Obfuscates? For example, I just posted a message in The Tavern about the AFG program. I don't want to have to explain what AFG is to EVERYONE. I could've put a little something in the signoff or an extra paragraph in to explain it to only certain people. If I can do that with my COMMODORE 64 BBS, Turbomessage should be able to do it. Racer X/WFM --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 275. Reply to #274 Date: 03/17/91. Time: 12:05:48. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Racer X Subj : Another Suggestion RECEIVED OK. SOUNDS COOL. I'LL CODE IT ACCORDING TO USER LEVEL. BY THE WAY, I'M NOW OUT OF CONTROL CHARACTERS (EXCEPT FOR X). BUT I'M SURE I'LL WANT TO ADD MORE IN THE FUTURE, SO I'M GOING TO CHANGE THE METHOD FOR ENTERING OBFUSCATRONIX. I WILL PROBABLY IMPLEMENT LYNX'S SUGGESTION. WE WILL HAVE REGULAR OBFUSCATRONIX AND EXTENDED OBFUSCATRONIX. EXTENDED OBFUSCATRONIX WILL REQUIRE THAT YOU ENTER TWO CODES. HERE'S A POSSIBLE EXAMPLE COVERING YOUR REQUESTED MODIFICATION. ^\^X^R 10000 THIS X STANDS FOR EXTENDED OBFUSCATRONICS. THE R STANDS FOR RESTRICTED MESSAGE. WHAT IT WILL DO IS MAKE THE REMAINDER OF THE MESSAGE UNREADABLE BY ANYONE WITH A LOWER THAN 10000 ACCESS LEVEL. (OR UNTIL ANOTHER RESTRICTED MESSAGE COMMAND IS ENCOUNTERED THAT CHANGES THE ACCESS LEVEL YET AGAIN) (IN OTHER WORDS YOU COULD RESTRICT SOME TEXT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MESSAGE AND THEN TURN THE RESTRICTION OFF BY SENDING THE FOLLOWING. ^\^X^R 0 THIS DOESN'T WORK YET HOWEVER. I'LL LET YOU GNOW WHEN IT DOES. C- - - Message # 279. Reply to #275 Date: 03/18/91. Time: 00:33:26. Read 11 Times. From : HACK MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : Another Suggestion RECEIVED OK, I'VE ADDED THE MESSAGE RESTRICTION FUNCTION, I'VE MADE ONLY ONE CHANGE. I DECIDED TO MULTIPLY BY 1000 SO THAT ALL THE USER LEVELS COULD BE HANDLED BY ONE BYTE OF MESSAGE INFORMATION. SO, FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU WANTED TO SEND A P.S. ONLY TO ME THEN YOU WOULD DO THE FOLLOWING. ^\^X^R 30 AFTER THAT THE REST OF THE MESSAGE CAN ONLY BE SEEN BY PEOPLE WITH ACCESS OF 30,000 OR HIGHER (NAMELY ME). ^\^X^R 10 WOULD RESTRICT THE MESSAGE TO OBFUSCATE LEVEL OR GREATER. C- - - P.S. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO SECURELY SEND A MESSAGE TO ME AND ME ONLY SO THAT NOT EVEN LYNX CAN SEE IT. (ALTHOUGH LYNX CAN'T SEE MESSAGES ON THE EMAIL BOARD EITHER UNLESS HE DECIDES TO CHEAT.) P.P.S. IF YOU'VE FORGOTTEN THERE IS A LIST OF USER LEVELS ON THE USER BULLETIN LIST ON THE MAIN MENU. Message # 280. Reply to #271 Date: 03/18/91. Time: 12:21:02. Read 14 Times. From : Lynx To : Gravebuster Subj : Suggestions RECEIVED There is a problem with the ^I trick... when you use it in a message and then do a ^N to view the message before saving it, you are thouroughly locked out! it just goes on showing you the infinite message forever untill you hang up. I tried every key and combonation I could think of. It just ignored me. however once you save it and read it like normal everything it fine you can press space to terminae the message. You gnow? Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- #280. Message # 281. Reply to #274 Date: 03/18/91. Time: 12:24:37. Read 14 Times. From : Lynx To : Racer X Subj : Another Suggestion RECEIVED Very most excellentest idea yet! Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 282. Reply to #279 Date: 03/18/91. Time: 12:28:07. Read 19 Times. From : Lynx To : HACK MAN Subj : Another Suggestion RECEIVED Me cheat? Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 283. Reply to #281 Date: 03/19/91. Time: 12:57:13. Read 13 Times. From : Racer X To : Lynx Subj : Another Suggestion RECEIVED I think that's about the only really useful thing that I can do with MCI (I'm sure you remember MCI) that couldn't be done here. I'll look over the list of stuff and if there's anything else, I'll be sure to mention it. Well... It would be nice if Turbomessage supported CBM-ASCII, but the trouble of programming that in probably wouldn't be worth it. Racer X/WFM --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 284. Reply to #282 Date: 03/19/91. Time: 13:00:12. Read 16 Times. From : Racer X To : Lynx Subj : Another Suggestion RECEIVED That's yet another thing that probably wouldn't be worth it. Having read user's mail before (and SysOp's mail too), I assure you it tends to be pretty dull. By the way, I don't read other people's mail for kicks. Some of the stuff I want to do can leave me with no alternative. Racer X/WFM --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 285. Reply to #284 Date: 03/21/91. Time: 02:56:47. Read 16 Times. From : Lynx To : Racer X Subj : Another Suggestion RECEIVED I read other people private messages by accident alot... Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 286. Reply to #285 Date: 03/22/91. Time: 15:25:51. Read 14 Times. From : Racer X To : Lynx Subj : Another Suggestion RECEIVED Ever edit 'em? Racer X/WFM --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 287. Reply to #286 Date: 03/23/91. Time: 12:54:48. Read 13 Times. From : Lynx To : Racer X Subj : Another Suggestion RECEIVED I can't.. the BBS won't let me edit other people's messages. Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 288. Reply to #272 Date: 03/23/91. Time: 22:21:42. Read 11 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Suggestions RECEIVED The "more" prompt was disabled, but I couldn't tell if the random color worked. +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 289. Reply to #279 Date: 03/23/91. Time: 22:26:32. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Another Suggestion RECEIVED Whenever we use that obfuscatrick, be sure to say the information is restricted, or one of us may reply to something that no one else was supposed to see. +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 290. Reply to #280 Date: 03/23/91. Time: 22:28:45. Read 11 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Lynx Subj : Suggestions RECEIVED Thanks for the info! +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- #290. Message # 291. Reply to #282 Date: 03/23/91. Time: 22:30:22. Read 11 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Lynx Subj : Another Suggestion RECEIVED I see that grin! (Although, you really always have a grin, it's just that right now it appears to be more of a grin than when you usually grin, even though your grin isn't any more grinny...) +++Gravebuster --==grin==-- Message # 292. Date: 03/25/91. Time: 07:06:24. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : User Names And Passwords RECEIVED What control characters do we use to cause the name and password of the person reading a message to appear in the text? I didn't see that trick listed in the Obfuscate Bulletins. +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 293. Reply to #292 Date: 03/26/91. Time: 02:52:08. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : User Names And Passwords RECEIVED UH. I FORGOT. I THINK I POSTED IT HERE SOMEWHERE. TRY ^U ^V OR ^W. WHAT EVER ISN'T DEFINED. C- - - Message # 294. Reply to #293 Date: 03/26/91. Time: 20:59:35. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : User Names And Passwords RECEIVED Well, I already gnow that control-u is up and control-v is the random number generator, so it must be control-w, unless its control-e, -o, or some form of number or punctuation. +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- .o Message # 295. Reply to #294 Date: 03/28/91. Time: 02:56:48. Read 14 Times. From : Lynx To : Gravebuster Subj : User Names And Passwords RECEIVED I think they are N and W or O... they are letters.... Lynx p.s. this is a test <-one of them (^\^o in fact and it's the name) p.p.s. this is another test <--- Your password! ^\^w Message # 298. Reply to #295 Date: 03/28/91. Time: 05:41:13. Read 12 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Lynx Subj : User Names And Passwords RECEIVED Thanks, Lynx! Now could you should me again how you do that ever-changing "obfuscate" macro? +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 299. Reply to #298 Date: 03/28/91. Time: 05:44:17. Read 11 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Gravebuster Subj : User Names And Passwords RECEIVED By the way, I used a "1" after the control 'I' on that message. I seem to be missing something. Here's what I did: control-Z. --==OBFUSCATE==-- control-Y. Return. control-U. control-I 1. Return a couple of times. dot o. +++Gravebuster --==I can handle this==-- Message # 300. Reply to #299 Date: 03/29/91. Time: 00:19:13. Read 22 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : User Names And Passwords RECEIVED TRY ^\^I 0. 0 WILL REPEAT THE LINE THAT YOU ARE CURRENTLY ON. C- - - #300. Message # 301. Reply to #299 Date: 03/29/91. Time: 02:05:08. Read 20 Times. From : Lynx To : Gravebuster Subj : User Names And Passwords RECEIVED the problem is the last bit about hitting return a couple of times and then .o you need to type control-s right atfer doing the ctrl-i 1 return (which should give you a beep like normal) for some reason having stuff after a control i command causes it to flak and repeat the whole message or random amounts of it for ever. Lynx Message # 302. Reply to #301 Date: 03/29/91. Time: 03:11:40. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Lynx Subj : User Names And Passwords RECEIVED Thanks, Lynx! Nice try, Hack Man. Let's give it a whirl... +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 303. Reply to #302 Date: 03/29/91. Time: 03:13:56. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Gravebuster Subj : User Names And Passwords RECEIVED Yeah! It works! +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 304. Reply to #289 Date: 04/02/91. Time: 08:18:15. Read 21 Times. From : Racer X To : Gravebuster Subj : Another Suggestion RECEIVED That makes it all the more entertaining. Racer X/WFM --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 305. Reply to #292 Date: 04/02/91. Time: 08:19:29. Read 17 Times. From : Racer X To : Gravebuster Subj : User Names And Passwords RECEIVED It's somewhere in The Temple. Use the scan feature and scan for "password". Racer X/WFM --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 306. Date: 04/12/91. Time: 00:20:09. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Its r/el/e fun/e h* /i get bl/amd f/or /x/e b/ord b/ei/ng ded, but /i n/o its in jest. /i /ti/nk port (?) uf /x/e problem iz Gizm/o @lw/az c@lz. But /x/e m/an problem iz /xat /x/e b/ord'z aktivnes g/oz in s/ikulz. But /i dq l/ik @l /x/e obf/qskutriks evr/ewun iz dqi/ng. +++Gr/avbust/ur --==OBF\QSKIT==-- Message # 307. Date: 04/14/91. Time: 14:01:47. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Lynx Subj : Random Appearance Of Characters RECEIVED I gnow you told me before, but I forgot. How does one cause a character or characters to randomly appear all over the screen? +++Gravebuster --==I gnew I should have written that down!==-- Message # 308. Date: 05/12/91. Time: 02:19:21. Read 18 Times. From : Unka Buck To : HM, GB, Lx Subj : TMM's alledged call I checked the user logs for The Music Man's call. I don't think it was him. The caller logged on as Music Man, which is different from The Music Man. I checked the register and they are two different handles. Music Man logged on at 1200 baud. Could be Gizmo being Super Hacker again. (But, I don't gnow what baud TMM uses.) -UNKA BUCK- -OBFUSCATE- Message # 309. Reply to #308 Date: 05/12/91. Time: 20:08:02. Read 19 Times. From : Lynx To : Unka Buck Subj : TMM's alledged call RECEIVED He usually calls at 600 bps. Even though he has a 2400 baud modem. Or at least the log files says 600... Lynx I doubt he called. Message # 310. Reply to #308 Date: 05/17/91. Time: 22:17:43. Read 19 Times. From : Racer X To : Unka Buck Subj : TMM's alledged call RECEIVED I do believe that I've seen a Music Man on another board. We should probably not exclude what's-his-name from our suspicions, though. Racer >< (formerly Racer X)/WFM --==OBFUSCATE==-- #310. Message # 311. Reply to #310 Date: 05/19/91. Time: 21:14:11. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Racer X Subj : TMM's alledged call RECEIVED Good detective work on the user's file, UB. Did you by chance happen to notice who called before and after this "Music Man" fake? So, RX, there's someone on other boards using "Music Man" as a handle? Do you gnow him? Maybe you could ask him if he logged on to Hack's? Hack Man, when is TMM gonna bless us with his obfuscation again? +++Gravebuster Message # 312. Date: 05/19/91. Time: 21:17:55. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Doinknobic Merchandise I mentioned to Lynx the other day that we could create a real "doinknob". All we need to do is to fill the hollow part of a doorknob with the same type of circuitry as is in those plastic balls, the balls that if you hold one and connect between the two contacts, it laughs or screams. Make sure the contacts are on the outside of the doorknob, and then program the thing to say "DOINK!" everytime someone connects the two contacts. There are obviously some difficulties in making the thing, but it is do-able. +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 313. Reply to #310 Date: 05/21/91. Time: 00:09:54. Read 16 Times. From : Unka Buck To : Racer X Subj : TMM's alledged call RECEIVED Shouldn't that be "what's-his-names"? -UNKA BUCK- Formerly -UNKA BUCK- Comments : WAY!=1 Message # 314. Reply to #311 Date: 05/21/91. Time: 01:59:20. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : TMM's alledged call RECEIVED HELLIFINO. C- - - Message # 315. Reply to #312 Date: 05/21/91. Time: 02:00:14. Read 23 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Doinknobic Merchandise RECEIVED I LOVE IT! C- - - Comments : WAY!=2 Message # 316. Date: 06/02/91. Time: 15:06:43. Read 23 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : CHECK IT OUT "JUMP" TO HERE AND CHECK OUT THE NEW SUB BOARD INTRO. C- - - P.S. I THINK I LEFT OUT A COUPLE OF NAMES FROM ANCIENT TIMES BUT I'M NOT SURE WHO. Comments : WAY!=1 HAHAHA=101 HUH?=1 Message # 318. Date: 06/02/91. Time: 15:27:31. Read 25 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Lynx Subj : EDITING WITH OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED YOU SEE, SOME OBFUSCATRONIX (AS YOU PROBABLY GNOW) TAKE UP TWO CHARACTERS IN THE DISK FILE (LIKE THE ONES THAT REQUIRE YOU TO ENTER A NUMBER (COLOR CHANGE FOR INSTANCE)) AND SOME ONLY TAKE UP ONE. A FEW OF THEM TAKE OF THREE, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH AT THE MOMENT. WHEN YOU BACKSPACE OVER AN INVISIBLE OBFUSCATRONIX CHARACTER THE CURSOR IS SUPPOSED TO NOT MOVE. PLUS IT IS POSSIBLE TO BACKSPACE OVER JUST A SINGLE CHARACTER OF A TWO OR THREE CHARACTER OBFUSCATRONIX CODE, CAUSING A BIG MESS. SO, TO BACKSPACE OVER A COLOR CHANGE YOU HAVE TO BACKSPACE TWICE. I COULD ADD A ZILLION K OF CODE TO FIX IT ALL UP, AND I PROBABLY WILL WHEN I HAVE THE SPACE - BUT FOR NOW THE EASIEST THING TO DO IS TO KILL THE LINE AND RETYPE IT. C- - - Comments : WAY!=1042 NO WAY!=1 OBFUSCATED=1 Message # 319. Date: 06/03/91. Time: 23:02:51. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : AN ANNOUNCEMENT PERMIFIED HERE-YE HERE-YE, LET IT BE GNOW THAT A NEW OBFUSCATE HAS BEEN ADMITTED INTO OUR MIDST. BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT OF THE REGULAR OBFUSCATE CALLERS UBIK HAS BEEN NOMINATED FOR OBFUSCATE STAUS. AT A MEETING THIS SUNDAY THE SUBJECT WAS DISCUSSED. THE OFFICIAL VOTE IS AS FOLLOWS. UNKA BUCK "YES" LYNX "YES" GRAVE BUSTER "YES" HACK MAN "YES" TASSLEHOFF BURFOOT "OK" GAVISCON "VFJ" THOSE NOT VOTING PEGGY YELLOWBEARD RACER X THIS IS A CLEAR MAJORITY, SO I AM HAPPY TO WELCOME UBIK INTO THE FOLD. C- - - P.S. IT WAS ALSO DECIDED BY UNANIMOUS ACCLIMATION TO ADMIT UBIK IN AN OBFUSCATED WAY. THEREFORE HE HAS NOT BEEN NOTIFIED OF HIS NEW DECORATION. HE WAS SPONTANEOUSLY UPGRADED TO OBFUSCATE STATUS MONDAY MORNING AT 3AM, AND HE HAS ALREADY CALLED ONCE AND NOT NOTICED. P.P.S. HEHEHE. Comments : OBFUSCATED=100 Message # 320. Reply to #319 Date: 06/04/91. Time: 01:07:18. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : AN ANNOUNCEMENT RECEIVED Dear Ubik, When you finally notice that you are now an obfuscate, I want you to gnow that you are very welcome to the temple, even if we didn't send you an engraved invitation. Of course, you may not read this for several weeks, as in the past you have shown yourself to be a "board-jumper" rather than one who explores all the options available to you. This has been well documented in the amount of time it took you to notice that you had access to the anarchistic "Law Sucks" board. But we obviously don't hold any of this against you, mainly because our hands are full and we can't hold anything else. Besides, even if we could hold this, we still wouldn't hold it against you at this present, because you obviously have chosen to abstain from Scope and Close-Up. But for now, may your armhair grow long and may your jowls swing freely in the breeze. +++Gravebuster --==DOINK!==-- Comments : OBFUSCATED=17 #320. Message # 321. Date: 06/04/91. Time: 07:45:33. Read 14 Times. From : Ubik To : you Subj : Disorientation Oh my God,,,, Where am I ????? __ |__|< S < S / \ ============ | | | * UBIK * | |__________| |safeifused| |asdirected| ------------ Message # 323. Reply to #321 Date: 06/04/91. Time: 17:32:55. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ubik Subj : Disorientation RECEIVED It is not for you to ask "where am I?", but to ask "Why am I where?" +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 324. Reply to #319 Date: 06/04/91. Time: 23:23:22. Read 16 Times. From : Unka Buck To : HACK MAN Subj : AN ANNOUNCEMENT RECEIVED Truly, an obfuscated way to welcome him. A reward he would richly deserve if ever he discovered it. hey, Does that mean he doesn't deserve it if he doesn't discover it? Quick, somebody explain to me what I mean! -UNKA BUCK- --==OBFUSCATE==-- -Welcome aboard, Ubik.- -Well, come aboard, Ubik- -Welcome a bored Ubik- -Welcome a board, Ubik.- -...will come aboard, Ubik.- -Well "," Board, Ubik- Message # 326. Reply to #324 Date: 06/05/91. Time: 04:48:24. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Unka Buck Subj : AN ANNOUNCEMENT RECEIVED That's pretty deep, UB. Does Ubik deserve "it" if he doesn't discover "it?" After all, "it" is a very important word in the English language, a pronoun consisting of two letters, beginning with "i" and ending with "t", often substituting for neutral nouns, or even nouns that don't refer to people, and occasionally, when satire demands, a person, "it"s exact meaning being derived from the antecedent. Should Ubik deserve "it?" Well, I guess he should, since he'll need some sort of protection from the Knights of "Nee"... +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Comments : OBFUSCATED=1 Message # 327. Reply to #323 Date: 06/05/91. Time: 16:55:05. Read 20 Times. From : Ubik To : Gravebuster Subj : Disorientation RECEIVED Oh no! Ill not fall for that one. Never ask a question you might not want to here the answer to. Ubik Message # 328. Date: 06/05/91. Time: 23:51:07. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : COLOR COMPATIBILITY NOW THAT YOU CAN SPECIFY DEFAULT COLORS IT'S NECESSARY TO CHANGE THE WAY WE CHANGE COLORS IN MESSAGES. IN ORDER TO TURN THE COLORS OFF WE USUALLY SELECT COLOR #0. (^\^H0) THAT DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE, BECAUSE THAT COMMAND RESETS THE SCREEN TO WHITE ON BLACK. INSTEAD USE ^\^F (TURN OF HIGHLIGHTING (SHOULD NOW BE THOUGHT OF AS RESET SCREEN COLORS)). ^\^F WILL CHANGE THE COLORS BACK TO THE DEFAULTS SELECTED BY THE USER. THIS WILL MAKE THE MESSAGES LOOK MUCH BETTER. (GO BACK AND LOOK AT SOME OF THE OLD COLORIZED MESSAGES AND YOU'LL GET THE IDEA.) C- - - P.S. HEY UBIK, GO TO THE MAIN MENU AND SELECT Z AND READ THE OBFUSCATE BULLETINS! Message # 329. Reply to #327 Date: 06/06/91. Time: 01:37:04. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ubik Subj : Disorientation RECEIVED But you might want to hear the answer to the question you never asked. And besides, that one will not fall for I, either. So why wear the "y" where? +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- -minor confusion Message # 330. Reply to #319 Date: 06/06/91. Time: 08:36:56. Read 16 Times. From : Racer X To : HACK MAN Subj : AN ANNOUNCEMENT RECEIVED It's too late, but I vote yes. I was about to recommend it and I noticed that with the rennovations there was a new Obfuscate. I've noticed that there's a number of new users here, so it's about time to add a few new Obfuscates. We have one and I think we should add at least one but not more than 1.999 more. I nominate John to be the whole one. Someone else should decide who gets the leftovers. Racer > IN THERE AND DELETE THAT TOO. C- - - Message # 344. Date: 06/09/91. Time: 05:05:01. Read 24 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : The Obfuscate's National Bank PERMIFIED Current holdings are: 811,226,105,251 obfucents. Comments : PROMOTE ME=9001 Message # 345. Reply to #340 Date: 06/09/91. Time: 06:54:12. Read 15 Times. From : Racer X To : HACK MAN Subj : COLOR CHANGING RECEIVED I can't tell if mine's working. Before I quit calling a while back, I was doing this: ^\^h1^\^h34Racer X/WFM^\^h0 --==^\^h1^\^h34^\^h5OBFUSCATE^\^h0==-- Then I read something about the restore default colour (^\^h0) not working. Does mine look OK? Racer >< Message # 491. Date: 10/22/91. Time: 20:34:30. Read 22 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : I'll Give It A Try, TMM RECEIVED If everyone is nice to each other, then no one will be mean to each other. This will mean that mean people should be nice, or nice people should be mean until there are no mean people, thus everyone would be nice to each other. However, if nice people become mean, then there would be no nice people, and that would leave nobody, and niceness would be forgotten. Which may be nice, but I would rather think it would be nicer if everyone would be nice to one another. +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- --==restricted to sub-ops; TMM, how'd I do?==-- Message # 492. Reply to #489 Date: 10/22/91. Time: 21:37:22. Read 22 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Racer X Subj : Gizmo RECEIVED Well, your proposal does have merit. But I think you're assuming too much. Gizmo and Mojo are both liars, and it would not be beneath Gizmo to accept Obfuscate status if but to find one more venue to harass us. However, if we stir up some real obfuscation around here, this would not be so bothersome. Gizmo is also acting pretty much like a jerk lately, and he would divulge the obfuscatronix in no time. Besides, being an obfuscate is like being a Supreme Court Justice...it's for life. Now, I'm sure AFG could take care of that. Also, HM related to me and TMM how Gizmo got the codes. It was not as if he gave Endwormo permission, but Gizmo used the Vector computer at the back of the garage, and HM assumed Gizmo was using it to log onto the board. Instead, Gizmo hit "dir", and with the help of Skurkey, began copying the messages. It was HM who realized what was going on, and who stopped them. All in all, though, I think he should obfuscate before we make him an obfuscate. It would also help if he would be himself and stop being such a jerk. We also shouldn't be bothered with what others think. We aren't tightasses, and it's unfortunate that Gizmo has convinced Skurkey otherwise. +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 493. Date: 10/22/91. Time: 21:44:17. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : For The Record El Diablo, a user we love to hate, has posted three admirably obfuscated messages on the Tavern (12850, 12851 and 12853). +++Gravebuster --==I'm not nominating him yet, but I wanted to bring this to everyone's attention==-- Message # 494. Reply to #489 Date: 10/22/91. Time: 23:00:54. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Racer X Subj : Gizmo RECEIVED I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT THAT SUGGESTION HAS A LITTLE PANACHE. BUT DO YOU THINK IT WOULD REALLY WORK? Message # 495. Reply to #493 Date: 10/22/91. Time: 23:03:21. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : For The Record RECEIVED WELL I KINDA LIKE EL DIABLO MYSELF. ALTHOUGH HE DOES SEEM TO BE IN SUCKING UP MODE. HOWEVER DOES THAT REALLY MATTER? ISN'T SUCKING UP A FORM OF OBFUSCATION ANYWAY? GOOD QUESTION. ANYWAY, HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN COOL TO ME. AND HE DOES SEEM TO HAVE A GERM OF SOMETHING THERE. HOWEVER I ALSO HAVE TO AGREE WITH MUSIC MAN (AND MOJO EVEN IF I DON'T WANT TO) WHEN THEY SAY THAT WE HAVE GROWN LAZY. WE JUST AREN'T TRYING ANYMORE. MAYBE TMM CAN LEND US A SPARK OF INSPIRATION WHILE HE'S HERE. C- - - Message # 496. Date: 10/23/91. Time: 01:33:38. Read 20 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : all obfuscates and you Subj : DOINK On the subject of Gizmo/Ender, I think it is a really spiffy (and completel worth trying once) idea, that Racer X had (at one time in his mind(now shared with us obfuscates(here in the temple)) or was it just something he typed?). I also think (I know it's a rare thing (however this is a good time), but I have to do it sometimes (and as I said this is a good time)) that Skurkey has turned out (turned in? (turned up (turned semi-leftishly north))) to be a completely immature bitch. She just complains about everything we do, and defends Gizmo at ever chance she gets. I grow very tired (and sick (not the sick like a cold but the sick like that in "sick and tired")) of reading here accusations about us OBFUSCATEs. I feel (alot of things) that she is just defending Gizmo and that she is jealous. El Diablo has, in fact, been cool to me at all times. I would have no qualms with him as an OBFUSCATE. Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym p.s. DOPINK Message # 497. Date: 10/23/91. Time: 13:03:05. Read 23 Times. From : Tasslehoff Burfoot To : ALL Subj : Proposals Don't you hate it when you spell a word wrong in the "Subject" field? In reguards to Gizmo and El Diablo becoming Obfuscates: I think that Gizmo has what it takes to be an Obfuscate, however, I do think he is a bit inmature. He used to try too hard to become one, and as we all gnow, the less effort and the more natural you behave, the sooner you'll become one. I'm not too sure about Gizmo becoming an Obfuscate, at least any time soon. El Diablo appears to be alright, but once again, he too, tries to hard to be strange, although he's never mentioned wanting to become an Obfuscate. In a way, that can be considered a plus. My biggest gripe with him would have to be his language/temper. He seems to jump to "violent" conclusions a little too fast. If he's joking about it, then fine, but I've seen no indication. As far as his language goes, he enjoys harassing people with explicatives, and I usually find myself deleting these messages on my subs. In conclusion.... Gizmo: Yes, he can become an Obfuscate, but not yet. El Diablo: If everyone else agrees, fine, but I have a neutral view of him. >The Tazz< --==Obfuscate==-- Message # 498. Reply to #497 Date: 10/23/91. Time: 23:06:27. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Tasslehoff Burfoot Subj : Proposals RECEIVED Then I forward to all the obfuscates a nomination for El Diablo to be an obfuscate. On the issue of brown-nosing; although it is obvious that he is trying to be an obfuscate, he is not begging or imploring us. Knowing his nature, I really don't think being an "obfuscate" is that important of a goal to him; my guess is that he just wants to see if he can be one. On the issue of temper and language; if temper were an obstacle, then I and ML would have problems, because we both get hot under the collar more easily than either of us wants to admit. If language was an issue, then ML and RX would have problems. In other words, although these traits tend to "put off" normal relations, they have not in the past prevented anyone from becoming an obfuscate. I think the key to being an obfuscate is that one shows a knack at obfuscation, preferably in his own way. I think this should be the primary issue, and unless the secondary issues are overwhelming, then I feel a person who obfuscates well without any real instruction or prompting should be given obfuscate status. Without his gnowledge, of course. We all love surprises... +++Gravebuster Message # 500. Reply to #497 Date: 10/23/91. Time: 23:17:32. Read 24 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Tasslehoff Burfoot Subj : Proposals RECEIVED I also vote against Gizmo becoming an obfuscate at this point in time until either my previous arguments are answered reasonably or until Gizmo shows that he can obfuscate, and then we can rehash the secondary issues over again. +++Gravebuster #500. Message # 501. Date: 10/24/91. Time: 00:46:47. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : As I Sit Here As I sit here on my wooden chair, staring at a screen, typing on a keyboard, I ponder just how the wooden chair, the screen, the keyboard and me relate to each other, and whether any of this has any significance to the operation of the cosmos. But since the cosmos does not signify how I, the chair, the screen or the keyboard relates to its operation, I ponder whether I have an effect on its operation. Then I ponder whether I should ponder these things, or should I instead sit here on my wooden chair, stare at a screen and type on a keyboard. That may be the key; I'm bored... +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Comments : WAY!=23 Message # 502. Reply to #500 Date: 10/24/91. Time: 14:10:48. Read 24 Times. From : Racer X To : Gravebuster Subj : Proposals RECEIVED PERMIFIED I seem to be the only one that sees the problems or potential problems with the situation. Most of you seem to be of the opinion that one user has already been turned off of Obfuscates because of this. What makes you think there won't be more? What makes you think that the Xenononsense crowd won't make allegations against us somewhere that our side won't be heard? This whole thing could blow up in our faces. You may be missing my point. If Gizmo is offered Obfuscate status and accepts it, Xenogenesis will be divided and even easier to attack. If they continue to try to wreck the Obfuscates all the evidence will show that we tried to be open and tolerant. If he is offered Obfuscate status and rejects it, it won't matter. Xenogenesis will be wrecked soon enough anyway and it'll still look like we did our best to be open and tolerant. If we don't offer him Obfuscate status we lose all those PR points as well as a great opportunity to destroy Xenogenesis and, more importantly, OBFUSCATE. It has been said that the best way to be an Obfuscate is to not try so hard. Well, he quit trying what more reason do we need? Of course he'll give away the Obfuscatronix! That's the beauty of it. As far as I can tell the only way to lose Obfuscate access is to give away the secrets of Obfuscation. He'll give away the Obfuscatronix and as soon as someone uses them we can blame him (we won't even need proof because he's done it before) and change the system. If for some bizarre reason he doesn't give them away, no loss there. Everyone else seemed intent on making him an Obfuscate before. We could use another couple of Obfuscates anyway. If he gives them away and no one uses them we won't even gnow, so there's no loss there either. The whole issue could be avoided by not really giving him the 'real' Obfuscatronix, but something that would only work for him and non-Obfuscates. A routine could even be put in that automatically strips his access if a non- Obfuscate uses the 'Obfuscatronix'. Then the whole thing could be taken out and someone will end up looking like a fool and it won't be you or me. However, to answer HACK MAN's question, I think it will work because he really can't accept the offer without looking like a fool. He could do it and say that he'll get Xenogenesis the codes but if that's been covered in advance... I've rambled on long enough, but there's more to be said about this. I think this would be great fun if the proper precautions are taken. Racer >< Message # 503. Reply to #502 Date: 10/24/91. Time: 15:07:39. Read 17 Times. From : Tasslehoff Burfoot To : Racer X Subj : Proposals RECEIVED After hearing Racer's last argument, I second it. >The Tazz< Message # 505. Reply to #502 Date: 10/24/91. Time: 19:10:52. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Racer X Subj : Proposals RECEIVED The best way to be an obfuscate is to obfuscate. All other issues are secondary. As for the rest of what you say, let me get this straight... You are afraid of the damage Xenogenesis could do by spreading rumors about how bad obfuscates are? A Xenogenesis which, by your own admission, will crumble of its own accord? I'm not sure I care about other users who would take advice from the Nexus crowd. After reviewing your post, it seems that you, rather than being worried about what Xerox-enemas can do, want to pull the most elaborate and cruel hoax on a user that I have ever heard about. I don't think we should carry Gizmo-bashing that far. And I object to Gizmo being an obfuscate primarily on the grounds that he hasn't obfuscated, and secondarily on the grounds that right now he is a jerk and a liar. The only potential, it seems, in what you have said is the pontential to be outright mean to Gizmo. +++Gravebuster Message # 506. Reply to #505 Date: 10/24/91. Time: 21:04:32. Read 19 Times. From : Tasslehoff Burfoot To : Gravebuster Subj : Proposals RECEIVED If I remember correctly, Gaviscon proposed that the next Obfuscate would be Gizmo, so I do believe that he would have voted for him, undoubtedly. I'm not sure in which message he said it, or if he just mentioned it to me in person, but I do remember him saying (or prophesizing?) that Giz would become the next in line for Obfuscate status. If anyone can find evidence of Gav saying this, then I do believe we shall also have his vote in the matter. >The Tazz< Message # 507. Reply to #505 Date: 10/26/91. Time: 02:38:02. Read 16 Times. From : Racer X To : Gravebuster Subj : Proposals RECEIVED Yeah. SO WHAT?!?! Racer >< Message # 508. Reply to #506 Date: 10/26/91. Time: 02:38:53. Read 17 Times. From : Racer X To : Tasslehoff Burfoot Subj : Proposals RECEIVED Great then. If that's what Gav wants then we should do it. Maybe the fire was a sign. Gizmo for Obfuscate! Racer >< Message # 509. Date: 10/26/91. Time: 02:40:42. Read 16 Times. From : Racer X To : Dr. Pepper Subj : Ooops! Don't think that I'm making a joke about Gav's misfortune. I really am sorry to hear the bad news. BUT, what if it is a sign from above that Gizmo should be made an Obfuscate? Shouldn't we follow the sign? We've already got Skurkey mad at us. Do we need to make any more enemies? Gizmo for Obfuscate! Racer >< Message # 510. Reply to #507 Date: 10/27/91. Time: 11:00:03. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Racer X Subj : Proposals RECEIVED My answer is still "no!". Besides, your proposal hinges on "offering" Gizmo obfuscate status, and users aren't "offered" obfuscate status. They simply log on one day and find out that they're obfuscates. No offer is made to them. +++Gravebuster #510. Message # 511. Reply to #509 Date: 10/27/91. Time: 11:01:59. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Racer X Subj : Ooops! RECEIVED Usually, fire is an ill omen, and the fire happened to one of the "yes" votes... +++Gravebuster --==stop dabbling in stuff you don't believe in==-- Message # 513. Date: 10/27/91. Time: 11:07:02. Read 20 Times. From : Gravebuster To : All The Obfuscates Subj : Tazz Is Disqualified Whoever is pretending to be Tazz should admit that he is not the real Tazz and to accordingly withdraw his vote. Messages 503 and 506, purportedly by Tazz, are short posts that make use of the autoreply feature. This type of posting is antithetical to Tazz's adamant habit of reading all the posts and posting his own reply in an original post. Only the REAL Tasselhoff Burfoot should be allowed to influence this vote! +++Gravebuster Message # 514. Reply to #506 Date: 10/28/91. Time: 23:16:56. Read 18 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : Tasslehoff Burfoot Subj : Proposals RECEIVED I remember him saying that at least twice... Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym Message # 515. Reply to #87 Date: 10/28/91. Time: 23:28:27. Read 18 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Wow! RECEIVED I think everything is like bugs too, but in a slightly different way. Everything is like bugs bunny! Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym Message # 516. Reply to #97 Date: 10/28/91. Time: 23:32:17. Read 16 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : HACK MAN Subj : SNARGLEDEGOP RECEIVED A: YES VERy MUCH SO. I love to introduce them to the street. B: GREEN of course... they last longer. C: I think that they should be abolished!!! besides someone already paid taxes on the stuff. In fact I think all taxes on things I buy and things I do should be abolished because at some point taxes were already paid for that thing. there should be a limit of one tax charged per item. Message # 517. Reply to #102 Date: 10/28/91. Time: 23:35:34. Read 16 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : HACK MAN Subj : MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. RECEIVED A: YES B: IT SUCKS C: YAW ON D: YES E: !!!!! F: DOINK! G: ^ ^ ^ _ Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym Message # 518. Reply to #111 Date: 10/28/91. Time: 23:43:02. Read 19 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : New Obfuscates/Dillusionists RECEIVED It's really funny how all the older obfuscates all seemed to think peggy was a prime suspect for being an obfuscate... I think it's quite funny actually... maybe it's because I have always been "anti-peggy" because she was always/is always disrespectful of me. Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym Message # 519. Reply to #518 Date: 10/29/91. Time: 20:25:49. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Mynk Lynx Subj : New Obfuscates/Dillusionists RECEIVED It must be your overwhelming charm. I can't possibly imagine what else about you could inspire such complete disrespect... +++Gravebuster --==...==-- Message # 520. Reply to #501 Date: 10/30/91. Time: 18:52:09. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : As I Sit Here RECEIVED THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE AND THE UNIVERSE. IN THE UNIVERSE EVERYTHING IS RELATIVE, BUT PEOPLE CAN'T RELATE TO ANYTHING. C- - - #520. Message # 522. Reply to #513 Date: 10/30/91. Time: 18:58:26. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Tazz Is Disqualified RECEIVED HOW DO WE GNOW THAT ANY OF US ARE REAL? C- - - Message # 523. Reply to #502 Date: 10/30/91. Time: 19:00:24. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Racer X Subj : Proposals RECEIVED HMM. INTERESTING. BUT, I DON'T THINK ENDER HAS ACTUALLY SAID (AT LEAST NOT RECENTLY) THAT HE WANTS TO BE AN OBFUSCATE. ANYWAY, WHO SAID THAT WE WERE OUT TO DESTROY XENOGENESIS? I'D SOONER WALK A MILE TO STEP ON AN ANT. WELL, HMM, DOINK. C- - - Message # 524. Reply to #522 Date: 10/31/91. Time: 00:40:25. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Tazz Is Disqualified RECEIVED Because we are all figments of your imagination! +++Gravebuster --==and we shall accept no imitations!==-- Message # 525. Reply to #197 Date: 11/02/91. Time: 04:03:42. Read 23 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : hmm RECEIVED This is in reply to your message re: hmm, smegma. :ci Message # 526. Date: 11/02/91. Time: 04:05:57. Read 17 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : all Subj : all The last message I posted here was in the last decade. 12/31/89 03:44:19 or so. :ci Message # 528. Date: 11/02/91. Time: 04:30:59. Read 24 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : mall Subj : smubject It is not in my nature, or my artifice, to post multitudinous messages on a singular sub-board during the self-same logon period, however, mayhap that is the raison d'etre for my hereunto doing such, noncontrariwise. shlabeddy :ci Will please respond to this message. Who knows, I may receive it sometime this year. Message # 529. Reply to #528 Date: 11/02/91. Time: 09:32:39. Read 24 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Cleric Ilsaram Subj : smubject RECEIVED Why should respond to that message? And why would you want him to? After all, he goes around using a silly password like . +++Gravebuster Message # 531. Date: 11/02/91. Time: 09:48:43. Read 22 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Cleric Ilsaram Subj : Congratulations RECEIVED I must congratulate you on your apparent reappearance, although you appear regularly, or as the case may be irregularly, because there's nothing regular about you, but hey, at least you're punctual, in which case, if that's my meaning, then you are regular, on Friday nights, albeit to GM a Rolemaster game (which when everybody is here and we play (which isn't very often (of course, Tasselhoff Burfoot is the most culpable (but I'm not any saint on that sin))). We do not devote as much attention (something which, if you don't pay, you pay too much (something also of which we are in short supply of on Friday nights (which maybe because Friday nights are the time we all let our hair down (which reminds us that we need to shampoo more often), a phrase that shouldn't be taken literally), probably because it's the end of the work week for most of us and we want to let our aggressions out through silliness (but we really should divert all that aggression into our characters and the game)) as that adventure deserves (especially in light of the fact that you come all the way down from the San Fernando Valley (why would anybody want to live in the San Fernando Valley (more nightclubs?); but then again, why would anybody want to live here (more ennui?) and leave your girlfriend and interests to come to lead a Rolemaster game (which you are leading quite well, but we've been pretty rotten (which is the whole point of this post))). In other words, irregular as you are, it's apparent that you regularly show up on Friday nights and show up the rest of us regular irregulars. And congratulations on your apparent reappearance. +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 532. Reply to #528 Date: 11/02/91. Time: 16:58:02. Read 20 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : Cleric Ilsaram Subj : smubject RECEIVED Even if it was a Obfuscatronix code, I will respond out of respect for a fellow Obfuscate. Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym p.s. Maybe if enough of us respond he will be forced by some cosmic responce buffer overflow goddess to call back and recieve them or die a horrible death at the mercy of several extremely voluptuous women who will simple ignore him to death... hmmmmm... Comments : HAHAHA=100 Message # 533. Reply to #523 Date: 11/04/91. Time: 18:50:37. Read 19 Times. From : Ubik To : HACK MAN Subj : Proposals RECEIVED Well,,, after reading the whole discussion I've come to no firm conclusions but,,,, you get my two cents worth anyway! Various thoughts on the various subjects. 1. I dont give a rip about harrasing Xenogenisis. Wars are for Priests, polititians, and other insects. 2. Gizmo bashing is not a worthy motive. 3. I think Gravie is wrong on one point (one only). It seems to me that Gizender has frequently been dazed, confused, downright wierd, and obviously obfuscated on many occasions. The point isn't can he obfuscate, its can he learn to do it without pissing people off? 4. I agree with Tazz that ElD seems explosivly hostile sometimes. He often relies on loud obcinity when he cant come up with rational argument. Not wrong, just low class. My votes: Both neutral (I'll go along with whatever you all decide. I dont get out enough, and dont have enough information to make learned choices.) Ubik Message # 534. Reply to #528 Date: 11/04/91. Time: 18:51:44. Read 16 Times. From : Ubik To : Cleric Ilsaram Subj : smubject RECEIVED Yep, they still work. Ubik Message # 535. Reply to #533 Date: 11/05/91. Time: 01:07:00. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ubik Subj : Proposals RECEIVED "Ah, an American voter, I see. Welcome to the great American way of doing things. We make the choices and you give us the votes. And of course, we let you decide who is running this nation; in fact, we confirm it for you just to make sure that your decision is the decision of this nation. Of course, you realize that this nation isn't just you, so you don't mind if someone you don't agree with runs the nation; that's democracy. Oh, never mind that we chose who runs this nation for you; we did consult you, even though it was after the fact. But then again, what are facts, but what we tell you? And what's a democracy, but what we choose? Do you think that we would allow our nation to be actually run by the whims of the voters? Why, we would have to educate them or something!" +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE...REALLY OBFUSCATED THIS TIME==-- --==SAD THING, IT'S TRUE, TOO...==-- Message # 536. Reply to #535 Date: 01/04/80. Time: 14:32:11. Read 14 Times. From : Ubik To : Gravebuster Subj : Proposals RECEIVED Educate? why of course not. The Education President wouldnt here of it. He needs workers, not a bunch of troublesome thinkers. __ |__|< S < S / \ ============ | | | * UBIK * | |__________| |safeifused| |asdirected| ------------ Message # 537. Reply to #533 Date: 11/10/91. Time: 00:03:02. Read 14 Times. From : Racer X To : Ubik Subj : Proposals RECEIVED Gizmo for Obfuscate! Racer >< Comments : NO WAY!=100 Message # 538. Reply to #537 Date: 11/11/91. Time: 04:50:28. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Racer X Subj : Proposals RECEIVED Assassinate Gizmo! +++Gravebuster --==AFG==-- Message # 539. Date: 11/14/91. Time: 18:28:00. Read 17 Times. From : Ubik To : all Subj : aniversary Hey, I just noticed its one year since my first call here. I seldom look at the stats and just accidently noticed it. Far out. How time do fly __ |__|< S < S / \ ============ | | | * UBIK * | |__________| |safeifused| |asdirected| ------------ Message # 540. Reply to #539 Date: 11/14/91. Time: 20:54:05. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Ubik Subj : aniversary RECEIVED WELL, YOU REALIZE OF COURSE, IT'S ALL ONE BIG THING. C- - - Comments : HAHAHA=100 #540. Message # 541. Reply to #539 Date: 11/17/91. Time: 21:15:27. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ubik Subj : aniversary RECEIVED I congratulationalify you! +++Gravebuster Message # 542. Date: 11/20/91. Time: 09:58:21. Read 15 Times. From : Inkydo To : You Subj : False Entry HIGH! How the hell are you? (retorical) its me, Inkydoo (Enkidu) Hope you dont mind me coming in here. I got this thing for temples. Well, I suppose I should leave you all with something profound. How about.. Try not to be such a dumb shit all the time. That one always seemed to help me. Well whadaya want for nothin? A rubber biscuit? -s- - -S- - -- inkydoo -- -s- s | | | |===================================== | |===================================== |--| \__ |\_\ \|\_\ \|\_\ \|\_\ \|_| Comments : HAHAHA=100 Message # 543. Date: 11/20/91. Time: 10:00:02. Read 16 Times. From : Inkydo To : All Subj : Stories in the Temple Let me tell you all a story. I will tell you of the great Siberian shaman Morgon Kara. And I will tell you, of my drum. Have you seen my drum? It is big and round like the moon, But it has only one side. Why does your drum have only one side, You might well ask? It is because of what Morgon Kara did. I will tell you. It was very long ago. Our race is old you know, Very, very, old. It was before we were farm people, And before we were horse people, And even before we were wagon people, When we lived in tents and moved with the moons Morgon Kera made strong medicine He healed many people So many in fact that no one was dying This greatly disturbed a rather nasty minor diety He hadnt gotten hold of a soul for a hell of a long time. In fact, He must have one, right now ! He reached forth his hand and tore out the soul of a girl A girl of Morgon Kara's tribe,,, She fell to the ground, Her friends carried her to Morgon Kera He lay her on his bed of purple vetch. Burned ceder dust at her feet, and soft wood musk at her head. And taking his drum he began the beat. And on the beat of his drum, Rose up into the air. Turning and climbing he drummed up into the clouds And saw there before him the disturbed demigod holding tight to a bottle, the lost soul inside, his thumb tight, on the hole, Quick as a wink Morgon Kara Turned into A fly He flew straight to the gods head and bit out a chunk right between the eyes YYYYEEEESSSSHHHH!!! the god jumped! And with both hands he slapped. And quick as a wink Morgon Kara Snatched out the soul And went spinning back down On the beat of his drum The god jumped up With rage in his voice And cast down a thunder bolt (as gods are known to do) And it slashed by Morgon Kara So very very close That it took his drum Clean in half And that is why To this very day That the shamans drum Has only one side HO. -s- - -S- - -- inkydoo -- -s- s | | | |===================================== | |===================================== |--| \__ |\_\ \|\_\ \|\_\ \|\_\ \|_| Message # 544. Reply to #538 Date: 11/21/91. Time: 11:49:58. Read 17 Times. From : Racer X To : Gravebuster Subj : Proposals RECEIVED Gizmo for Obfuscate! Racer >< Comments : NO WAY!=100 Message # 545. Date: 11/22/91. Time: 08:45:56. Read 16 Times. From : Racer X To : Inkydoo Subj : ackackackackackackackackackackackackack Gizmo for Obfuscate! Racer >< Comments : NO WAY!=100 Message # 546. Reply to #544 Date: 11/23/91. Time: 17:23:45. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Racer X Subj : Proposals RECEIVED Racer X for Gizmo! +++Gravebuster --==...==-- Message # 547. Date: 11/24/91. Time: 23:41:35. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Attention, Please, Or If You Don't Have Any, Pocket Lint Will Do If you are reading this message, I suggest that you sit back, and relax, read a good book, wiggle your toes and have happy thoughts. Unless, of course, you are not reading this message, in which case you are probably sitting back, relaxing, reading a good book, wiggling your toes and having happy thoughts. But if I may interrupt you (and I'm sorry to interrupt your happy train of thought), I should remind you that you are neglecting to read this message. And you really should read this message. So, now that I have obligated you to read this message, you may proceed to do as I suggested. +++Gravebuster Message # 548. Reply to #547 Date: 11/25/91. Time: 02:15:16. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Attention, Please, Or If You Don't Have Any, Pocket Lint Will Do RECEIVED THANK YOU. I HAD FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE PURE PLEASURE OF TOE WIGGLING UNTIL YOU HAD REMINDED ME. C- - - Message # 549. Date: 12/08/91. Time: 02:09:44. Read 19 Times. From : Racer X To : aLL Subj : Ack! PERMIFIED By the way, I resign as an Obfuscate too. Gizmo for Obfuscate! Racer >< -Tick ... tick ... Message # 550. Date: 12/08/91. Time: 16:20:44. Read 21 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Electric Shaver Price Comparison This week, J.C. Penney's advertises Norelco's 875RX rechargeable shaver for $89.95, a good price! Sears lists the same Norelco 875RX rechargeable shaver at $84.95, another good price! Target offers the Norelco 875RX rechargeable shaver for $79.95, a great value! Kmart, this week, offers the Norelco 875RX rechargeable shaver for $59.97, an excellent value! But right here, at the Temple of Dillusion, we don't charge anything for the Norelco 875RX rechargeable shaver, because we don't even sell them here! What a value! Think of all the money you can save shopping around here! +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- #550. Message # 551. Date: 12/19/91. Time: 23:40:52. Read 20 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Directions To The Garage Well, now let's see, you just continue down this street here til you reach the corner where there used to be a gas station, and I can't reckon what's there now, but you make a right at that corner, and you go all the way down that road until you come to a big pink motel, it's big, and it's the only pink one there, unless they painted it again, and right near that motel is an intersection, and you turn left, and then you continue through all the farms and stuff, except they got plowed down recently and I can't for the life of me remember what type of big project they put in its place other than its big, gots lots of buildings and lots of green lawns, and you just keep going until you get to the stop sign that was knocked down during the last Santa Anas. Or maybe some punk kids pulled it out of the ground by tying it to their pickup. Now what was I saying? Oh yeah, well, you go straight, or is it a left? Blast, you just go the way that looks right to you, past the row of eucalyptus trees that got bulldozed this summer, down the street that's closed for road construction, what? How are you supposed to do that? That ain't my problem! Now just listen, once you get passed the Eat Rite Restaurant that got turned into an Assemblies Of God church and now who gnows what it is now, you go over the bridge over the 101, go into Mission Oaks, and you can find your way to the Garage from there. Got it? +++Gravebuster Message # 552. Reply to #551 Date: 12/23/91. Time: 21:38:01. Read 14 Times. From : Ubik To : Gravebuster Subj : Directions To The Garage RECEIVED Thanks for the help. Ubik glad we aren't paying for this stuff. Message # 553. Date: 12/23/91. Time: 23:15:01. Read 16 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : Anyone? Anyone? Subj : Howdy, who ate all the chocolate? "Hmm," Lord Cirdan mused. Just thought I'd make a rather random appearance. Who are these Xenodudes I keep hearing being mentioned? Please forgive me, I only have time to catch up on this particular board. Some kind of anti-obfuscates? I don't get it. If the obfuscates are obfuscates, then how can someone be an anti-obfuscate, if they don't gnow what they are anti-ing? If they think they gnow, then they gnow too much. Just make them think we are something else. Then when they think that, make them think we are actually something quite different. Repeat. Of course, only do this if it entertains you. Anyway, it seems pointless to me to make Gizmo an obfuscate if someone, namely the bewildering Gravebuster, disagrees. I forgot if there were any rules or anything, but I think it should be unanimous. Anyway, as I have said before, (in fact, I say "Anyway" lots, see, it appears at least twice, although I have said "the" before even more times, but I would be willing to bet, not my life but maybe something of monetary value, that I say it (it being "Anyway" (I'm sure you caught that, but just in case)) more times than "The") maybe a synopsis of the ensuing conflict could be posted, or if there is no conflict, maybe we should come up with one, something really big, with backstabbing and insider trading and commentary from Dan Rather. :::Lord Cirdan Message # 554 -- Private. Message # 556. Reply to #553 Date: 12/24/91. Time: 10:38:37. Read 27 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Lord Cirdan Subj : Howdy, who ate all the chocolate? RECEIVED I ate all the chocolate. I got the pimples to prove it, too! Xenogenesis fancy themselves as the protectors of bink!, the slayers of DOINK!, the victors over Obfuscates and the saviors of the world. There's only two of them, unless you count Non-Existance (sic), a fictional leader of this fictional underground national movement. Although your plan of obfuscating their attack would have worked in the past, the conflict has basically died down because we confronted them with their own obnoxious behavior. I feel their self-esteem couldn't take that assault. Gizmo is not going to be an obfuscate until he at leasts obfuscates, as far as I'm concerned. I don't think that's asking too much. A little less "attitude" on his part would go a long way, also. Racer X wants to offer Gizmo "obfuscate" status for several reasons. First, it would place Gizmo in a dilemma--if he accepts, he goes against Xenogenesis, and if he refuses, he goes against his own ambitions. Second, if Gizmo does accept, he would not be given real obfuscatronix, but false obfuscatronix, and access to this subboard, and that's it. This test is to see if he simply accepted "obfuscate" status to discover the codes and broadcast them out again. I object to RX's plan because (1) Gizmo does not obfuscate, (2) you don't offer someone obfuscate status, HM just makes them an obfuscate, so how could he reject or accept something HM already made him?, (3) I don't think obfuscate status should be given such as to humiliate a user. Besides, now the whole issue is now moot; Gizmo doesn't care about obfuscates, let alone the Retreat, anymore. He only wanted the obfuscatronix because he thought they were some neat programming language with which you can make online games, and he was disappointed when he found out otherwise. Besides, Gizmo, Mojo and company are currently not wanted around the Garage anymore because Gizmo keeps on messing with the bulletin board and he recently stole a 3 1/2" disk with the bulletin board program on it. That sums up the whole debate from my viewpoint. +++Gravebuster Message # 557. Reply to #553 Date: 12/30/91. Time: 04:29:14. Read 22 Times. From : Racer X To : Lord Cirdan Subj : Howdy, who ate all the chocolate? RECEIVED PERMIFIED Will YOU accept my resignation? I'm not a Xenodip and don't intend to be one. I just don't want to be an Obfuscate and no one else is willing to accept that. Thank you and have a nice day. Racer >< Message # 558. Date: 01/02/92. Time: 19:27:42. Read 21 Times. From : Ubik To : All Subj : didnt know I was gone did ya? January 1,1992 TheFuckinFutreAintIt! Dearest Friends,Obfuscates,Accociates,OnLookers,Snoopers, Posters-Antiposters,Readers-writers-critics,primates- Others, Buffons,Dweebs,and Dipshits. How the Hell are Ya! Thought I'd better drop a line and let ya know I havn't died or been arrestabducted. As you will notice by my improved form, I've been busy with business. The vacation may have been bad for me. I got crazy ideas. Mighta been the drugs, maybe the women, maybe it was Jimi playin Red House,I dunno. I decided to learn a whole bunch about publishing and book marketing. So I've been readin alot. Going to explore the business and maybe find a nitch. I did some applications to be a publishers reader, and book indexer, and I'm trying to get into a local bookstore to learn their version of retail sales. Hot tips appreciated. Oh, yeah, took a side job working for some monks as a medical jack of all trades. Working in a quiet peacefull monkerary might be very cool. We shall see. Im not going to be able to keep up with the whole board, so Im skipping the Tavern and Soap Box for awhile, but I'll try to keep up on the others. So, how ya been? How was the party? Las Vegas was your typical "wretched den of scum and villany" where people display how deeply they can be mass hypnotized by poring their money into machines that make noises and flash lights. The more the machines spit it back, the longer they stay till they get that last nickel and quarter down. Truley amazing. A national wonder. Glad I saw it once. The only comendable and saving quality of the place is the easily available sex. (No I didn't (still the MO)) All for now, back to work. Sincerely, UBIK Ubik Polytechnical Group Ventura California. Message # 559. Reply to #558 Date: 01/03/92. Time: 11:13:14. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Ubik Subj : didnt know I was gone did ya? RECEIVED YOU MEAN YOU ARE A MONK FLUNKEY? DOES THAT MAKE YOU A MONKEY? C- - - Message # 560. Reply to #558 Date: 01/05/92. Time: 12:57:45. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ubik Subj : didnt know I was gone did ya? RECEIVED So you didn't lose your wages in Las Vegas, but instead sequestered yourself in a seminary, and booked your future in the future of books? Well, in the future, when you sequester yourself in a seminary, forget about Las Vegas and read a book. Okay? +++Gravebuster #560. Message # 561. Reply to #559 Date: 01/08/92. Time: 16:59:22. Read 18 Times. From : Ubik To : HACK MAN Subj : didnt know I was gone did ya? RECEIVED Yeah, but I'm a damn good one! Ubik Comments : HAHAHA=100 Message # 562. Reply to #560 Date: 01/08/92. Time: 17:00:10. Read 18 Times. From : Ubik To : Gravebuster Subj : didnt know I was gone did ya? RECEIVED Actualy, thats what I did in Las V. - read a book. It was Quiet days in Clincky" by Henry Miller. Also read some discussions on Millers work, and some biographical stuff. Isnt that what everyone does in L.V.? Ubik Message # 563. Reply to #562 Date: 01/08/92. Time: 22:46:40. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ubik Subj : didnt know I was gone did ya? RECEIVED So you mulled Miller's book while milling about Las Vegas, booking seminaries and attending seminars on books, flunking monks and monkeying flunks, and where's a watch when you need one? +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 564. Date: 01/10/92. Time: 21:19:20. Read 24 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Letter Of Recommendation We at Obfuscatronix would like to commend for his exceptional performance and most highly valued advice. After much discussion, interaction, engagement and detailed endeavors, we are deeply impress with 's integrity, skill and thoughtfulness. He employed unique and innovative talents to accomplish the task efficiently in a minimal amount of time, contributing greatly to the teamwork and the prestige of our corporation. is definitely an asset in any organization. Now if we can only figure out what did... +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 566. Reply to #489 Date: 01/12/92. Time: 17:52:32. Read 21 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Racer X Subj : Gizmo RECEIVED HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Message # 567. Reply to #491 Date: 01/12/92. Time: 17:54:05. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : I'll Give It A Try, TMM RECEIVED Fine. Message # 568. Reply to #525 Date: 01/12/92. Time: 17:57:31. Read 18 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Cleric Ilsaram Subj : hmm RECEIVED Why, thank you! Message # 569. Reply to #529 Date: 01/12/92. Time: 17:59:11. Read 18 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : smubject RECEIVED How did you gnow my password??? Message # 570. Reply to #564 Date: 01/12/92. Time: 18:04:19. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Letter Of Recommendation RECEIVED Absolutely nothing, and I do it well! #570. Message # 571. Reply to #569 Date: 01/12/92. Time: 20:39:09. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : smubject RECEIVED That message doesn't talk about you or your password. It talks about me and my password!... +++Gravebuster Message # 572. Reply to #571 Date: 01/13/92. Time: 15:43:57. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : smubject RECEIVED No it talks about everybody and everybody's password....but, why? Message # 573. Date: 01/13/92. Time: 15:44:49. Read 16 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : whomever Subj : opening message I was sure taken off that obfuscate MIA list quickly! Message # 574. Reply to #572 Date: 01/13/92. Time: 19:28:23. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : smubject RECEIVED Well, "why" is a deep subject, and we should spend many hours discussing "why", and when we do we may inevitably come upon a because, although it may not be the because, but why should we discuss the because or a because if in fact we wanted to discuss the why, a subject I just subjected to an endless why... +++Gravebuster Message # 575. Reply to #574 Date: 01/13/92. Time: 23:10:40. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : smubject RECEIVED Who says a because must follow a why, there are other answers to why, and not all of them have a because in it, although some do, I don't know why (there's one of them), but it just happens that way, or some other way, but either way, it does happen, and all I'm left to do is question, why? Message # 576. Date: 01/13/92. Time: 23:12:52. Read 19 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : ALL Subj : Current Issues I would like to raise a few subject, comment on 'em, and soon bury them again: I would like to officially nominate NUMBER 2 to be an obfuscate. He has expressed interest, and I think he has a lot of obfuscate potential, even though he doesn't express it much. I personally like his means of obfuscation, and I think the title would encourage him to express obfuscation more often. I would like to encourage the other obfuscates to also nominate our fellow user and friend to join our "elite" organization. PLEASE RESPOND WITH A YEAH OR NAY !!!! re: Number 2 Next, I would like to nominate that Racer X be dissociated from obfuscate status and access. In my opinion, he doesn't fit into the program, he doesn't desire to, and he doesn't succeed in obfuscation. Most importantly, he doesn't even want to be one! Some might say that this in itself is a form of obfuscation, and that may be so, but it's not the form of obfuscation that we have traditionally aspired to create. I think it requires teamwork, and I am of the opinion that there is a big difference between obfuscation and disruption. If he wants out, by all means, let him out!!! It looks bad for us having a fellow obfuscate mock us like this!! I wish to encourage fellow obfuscates to ban Racer X from the temple, for he has fallen from grace. Do we make Racer X officially a NON-OBFUSCATE ?? PLEASE RESPOND WITH A YEAH OR NAY !!!! re: Racer X I would like to express that this in no way expressed my personal attitude towards Racer X, and I don't want him to take it as a personal insult. This is just business, obfuscate business, and I consider it important (Heck, SOMETHING has to be!!). The Music Man -=obfuscate=- Message # 577. Reply to #576 Date: 01/14/92. Time: 01:01:53. Read 18 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Current Issues RECEIVED Yeah. Re: Number Two. Yeah. Re: Racer X Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym p.s. or Q, and Q. Message # 579. Reply to #576 Date: 01/14/92. Time: 15:20:09. Read 23 Times. From : Racer X To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Current Issues RECEIVED Absolutely NOT on Number Two. Since I am still an Obfuscate and new admissions require a unanimous vote, Number Two cannot be an Obfuscate AS LONG AS I AM. TMM, if you could point out something even remotely worthwhile that Number Two has said ON THIS BOARD, please do. If the easiest way to become an Obfuscate is to make a point of socializing with all the others, I want even less to be an Obfuscate. Although there is no set time requirement, Number Two hasn't even been on this board for a year. Give him more time and some sort of display of talent at anything other than making it to the garage every Friday before you start getting so generous with such things. Racer >< Message # 580. Reply to #575 Date: 01/15/92. Time: 03:19:31. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : smubject RECEIVED But if you question why, then why ask why? +++Gravebuster --==...==-- #580. Message # 581. Reply to #579 Date: 01/15/92. Time: 03:21:59. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Racer X Subj : Current Issues RECEIVED Hey, you refused to post on this board! +++Gravebuster Message # 582. Date: 01/15/92. Time: 03:23:13. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Nominations and Un-Nominations Re: Number Two-Yeah. Re: Racer X-Nay. +++Gravebuster Message # 583. Reply to #580 Date: 01/15/92. Time: 12:03:22. Read 16 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : smubject RECEIVED I don't gnow, maybe I'll just have a Bud Dry... Message # 584. Date: 01/15/92. Time: 12:04:31. Read 18 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Racer X Subj : things RECEIVED #2 is more of an obfuscate in person, and I have seen his written expression of it in poetry he has written. As for the unanimous thing, did I vote for you? I'll have to check on that. Personally, I think that there are too many no-existents and semi-existents to make that feasable. Depending upon the votes, he may have to be given more time, but I'm starting to see a majority, and that's all I need to observe before I begin exploring the wonders of SYSOP options. Do you really not want to be an obfuscate? -TMM Message # 585. Reply to #581 Date: 01/15/92. Time: 15:33:53. Read 16 Times. From : Racer X To : Gravebuster Subj : Current Issues RECEIVED I did not. Besides, some things are far too important to ignore. Racer >< -Tick . . . tick . . . Message # 586. Reply to #584 Date: 01/15/92. Time: 15:35:56. Read 17 Times. From : Racer X To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : things RECEIVED If I must be an Obfuscate to protect you from yourselves, then it must be. Quite honestly, there seems something wrong with making someone an Obfuscate based on supposed off-line Obfuscation. Again quite honestly, if you wish to pursue this course, you will not only have a resigned Obfuscate but a resigned user. Try me. Racer >< -Tick . . . tick . . . Message # 587. Reply to #586 Date: 01/16/92. Time: 16:51:30. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Racer X Subj : things RECEIVED Isn't that a little childish, threatening to stop calling? That sounds like something I would do, and did, and it didn't work, because I still haven't gotten what I wanted, whatever that is. The point is that if you don't want to be an obfuscate, I don't think you should have to be. It's entirely up to you. I don't want you to stop calling, I'd just like to see a little cohesiveness on this board, if someone is an obfuscate, they should be one, if they don't want to be one, then they shouldn't be one. Why do I get the feeling that it's not obfuscation that is important to you, but the access and power that comes with it? As for Number 2, other people seem to see obfuscated posts by him, which is why they voted yes. If you want, I'll point them out to you, but quite honestly, I shoudn't have to! -TMM Message # 588. Reply to #562 Date: 01/16/92. Time: 21:47:01. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Ubik Subj : didnt know I was gone did ya? RECEIVED HEY, TELL US ABOUT HENRY MILLER ON THE LIBRARY. I'M INTERESTED. C- - - .S Message # 589. Reply to #576 Date: 01/16/92. Time: 21:55:47. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Current Issues RECEIVED I ALSO VOTE YES FOR NUMBER TWO. ALSO, I VOTE TO LET RACER-X DO WHATEVER THE HELL HE WANTS TO DO. I'M TIRED OF TRYING TO ACCOMMIDATE. HE MIGHT HAVE SOME AGES OLD MEANINGLESS PETTY VENDETTA AGAINST NUMBER TWO, BUT I DON'T, AND I DON'T SEE ANY REASON FOR IT. RACER X HAS BEEN UNABLE TO DEMONSTRATE ANY REASON FOR IT AND I CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT NUMBER TWO MUST HAVE STEPPED ON HIS RUBBER DUCKY ONCE WHEN THEY WERE 3 YEARS OLD. AS FOR ME, I LIKE NUMBER TWO I THINK HE'S COOL AND I CAN'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH HIM. I ALSO LIKE WHAT HE HAS DONE. THE FACT THAT RACER-X DOESN'T LIKE HIM FOR UNGNOWN REASONS WON'T COLOR MY JUDGEMENT. HERE ARE A FEW PETTY EXAMPLES THAT I CAN THINK OF OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD OF OBFUSCATORY TYPE THINGS THAT HE HAS DONE. HAVING THE GALL TO ASK TO BE SUB-OP OF THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH HAS TO COUNT FOR SOMETHING. HIS POETRY IS ALSO INTERESTING (AS TMM MENTIONED). THE WALT DISNEY TED TURNER STUFF SHOWS IMAGINATION. I GOT A PERSONAL KICK OUT OF THE H. M. INITIALS THING. AS TMM MENTIONED THERE'S LOTS OF RAW POTENTIAL THERE. MORE POTENTIAL THAT WE HAVE BEEN SHOWING FOR AWHILE AS A MATTER OF FACT (UNTIL TMM SHOWED UP AND STARTED SPARKING THINGS UP AGAIN (I'D LIKE TO UNOFFICIALLY NOMINATE TMM FOR THE NON-EXSISTANT OBFUSCATE OF THE MONTH AWARD) WE WERE DEFINITELY STUCK IN A RUT. I'D LIKE TO TOTALLY REBUT RACER-X'S STATEMENT ABOUT POPULARITY CONTESTS AND SOCIAL CIRCLES. IF ASS LICKING IS WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR THEN GIZMO WOULD HAVE BEEN AN OBFUSCATE TEN TIMES OVER. ANYWAY, AT THIS POINT I THINK THAT POTENTIAL IS ALL WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE. AND #2 HAS MORE THAN THAT. AS A MATTER OF FACT I THINK THAT IF WE WANT TO KEEP THE WHOLE THING FROM DYING OUT THEN WE SHOULD THINK SERIOUSLY ABOUT EXPANDING OUR RANKS SOME MORE. I'D LIKE TO SEE ABOUT 4 OR 5 NEW OBFUSCATES APPOINTED IN THE NEAR FUTURE. IF WE CAN'T FIND THEM HERE THEN WE SHOULD CALL AROUND AND SEEK THEM OUT. C- - - P.S. WHO SAID THAT IT HAD TO BE UNANIMOUS? Comments : WAY!=100 HAHAHA=100 DOINK=100 Message # 590. Reply to #589 Date: 01/17/92. Time: 10:42:23. Read 19 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : HACK MAN Subj : Current Issues RECEIVED HERE HERE! Excellent words oh man of the big toe! Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym p.s. Maybe we should make number two a obfuscate so that Racer x will stop calling. Maybe we could get through a day without his foolishness. Comments : HAHAHA=100 #590. Message # 591. Date: 01/17/92. Time: 15:30:52. Read 27 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Whomever Subj : New Obfuscates I'd say that there is a clear majority vote for #2, so I'd like to urge the Doink to make any necessary access changes. Also, does anybody know where my cerebellum is, I seem to have misplaced it. Message # 592. Reply to #583 Date: 01/19/92. Time: 08:51:56. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : smubject RECEIVED You can try to dry Bud if you want to, but if you ask me, I think he needs to stay in the bathtub a couple of more years... +++Gravebuster Message # 593. Reply to #589 Date: 01/19/92. Time: 08:56:20. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Current Issues RECEIVED I think the "unanimous" thing came from all the people you bestowed as obfuscates, and Racer X especially took that to heart because he wanted to be the last obfuscate. That's why he votes no on everybody else. In fact, there are lots of silly reasons floating around about what does or doesn't make an obfuscate and what does or doesn't need to happen for someone to become an obfuscate. I try telling everybody that people become obfuscates when you decide to make them obfuscates, and that's all there is to it, but no one seems to be able to accept it at that. +++Gravebuster --==imagine me more persuasive, please!==-- Message # 594. Reply to #591 Date: 01/19/92. Time: 09:00:33. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Your cerebellum is in a place where it obviously isn't, unless it's in the place where it is supposed to be, but that doesn't change anything now, does it? +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 595. Reply to #591 Date: 01/19/92. Time: 09:02:50. Read 12 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Again, to Number Two becoming an obfuscate, I say "yes" and do it quickly! And even though it's after the fact, I change my voted for de-obfuscating Racer X to "undecided", and I concede to the actions taken by our Royal Suckfulness... +++Gravebuster Message # 596. Reply to #595 Date: 01/19/92. Time: 17:38:37. Read 12 Times. From : Ubik To : Gravebuster Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Having assessed the debate I vote as follows Num. Two - YES! Num. Racer - No , he should be doomed to be an obfuscate no matter how much he hates it. Thats life. We should however get owerselves a usable anarchists board. Perhaps open a new one and add it to Two's responcibilities? Add ing more obfuscates is an important thought. Must add to the gene pool and all that (speaking metaphoricaly of course) The excellent job Skurk has done with the sex board makes her an obvious concideration, but then it might be too conformist for her. (hehe) Num. Two Yes! Ubik There are NO Whole Systems Bohr/Bell/Bohm Message # 597. Reply to #593 Date: 01/20/92. Time: 01:18:26. Read 10 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Current Issues RECEIVED Hear, hear. Message # 598. Reply to #594 Date: 01/20/92. Time: 01:18:46. Read 10 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Uh, how's that again?. Message # 599. Reply to #595 Date: 01/20/92. Time: 01:19:20. Read 12 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED I didn't gnow we had any royal suckfulness? Where have you guys been hiding it?!?!?! Message # 600. Reply to #596 Date: 01/20/92. Time: 01:20:16. Read 18 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Ubik Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED I think we should give the anarchists board nack to the ANARCHIST! #600. Message # 601. Reply to #591 Date: 01/20/92. Time: 21:52:13. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED OH, THAT MUST BE WHAT I FOUND IN THE GARAGE TODAY. IT STILL LOOKED PRETTY FRESH SO I PUT IT IN THE SLOPPY JOES. C- - - Message # 602. Reply to #601 Date: 01/24/92. Time: 10:23:37. Read 18 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Why is GB non-existent? I guess this place is no fun for him now that racer x is gone... Message # 603. Reply to #600 Date: 01/24/92. Time: 15:37:20. Read 15 Times. From : Ubik To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Thatsd right! Are we Anarchists or mice! Lets blow sumthin up! gotta match? Ubik Message # 604. Reply to #591 Date: 02/04/92. Time: 11:04:47. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Yes, as a matter of fact I have seen it. I am very sorry to say that thew other day when you weren't looking, I borrowed it, and made myself a Cerrebellum Sandwich. Very very tasty, but if it means that much to you, then I guess I can find a way of replicating it and returning it. Your Pal 2 PS you don't mind if I make a few changes, do you? Message # 605. Reply to #97 Date: 02/04/92. Time: 12:50:41. Read 16 Times. From : Number Two To : HACK MAN Subj : SNARGLEDEGOP RECEIVED test tube, but from a beaker. Since there are extreme rivalries, and bad feelings between beakers and test tubes, I guess that I can safely say "N'yeah N'yeah Pookie pookie blah" Message # 606. Reply to #528 Date: 02/04/92. Time: 12:56:18. Read 14 Times. From : Number Two To : Cleric Ilsaram Subj : smubject RECEIVED Ahh, but having thoroughly reviewed your artifice, I am loathe to tell you.....it is not your own. Who cares though, neither is mine. Gues what? I sang lead in a band called "Fatal Hour" for about a week. Then the band finally broke up. They were on the skids anyway. oh well Your Pal 2 Message # 607. Reply to #605 Date: 02/04/92. Time: 21:05:31. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Number Two Subj : SNARGLEDEGOP RECEIVED WELL, I GUESS YOU'LL PASS THEN. C- - - P.S. CONGRATS MR OBFUSCATE. Message # 608. Reply to #599 Date: 02/05/92. Time: 08:23:36. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED He can't hide, and that's the biggest problem! +++Gravebuster Message # 609. Reply to #602 Date: 02/05/92. Time: 08:24:20. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Oh, is that what I am? I was wondering about that myself... +++Gravebuster Message # 610. Reply to #604 Date: 02/05/92. Time: 08:24:58. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Welcome, Number Two. Well, come number too! +++Gravebuster #610. Message # 611. Reply to #610 Date: 02/05/92. Time: 14:22:22. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED I'm sorry, I can't hear you that well..... I'm picking up a mexican radio station right now, and I can barely barely get you guys. Thax thanx, I think drink Your Pal 2 Message # 613. Reply to #611 Date: 02/06/92. Time: 12:26:33. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED You think drink while Thax thanxes? And what's that number to? +++Gravebuster Message # 614. Reply to #613 Date: 02/06/92. Time: 13:13:43. Read 15 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED (Garbled Static) . . . . . . . . . . . . (Silence) o Message # 615. Date: 02/07/92. Time: 07:52:56. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Just To Let You Gnow RECEIVED I won't be there tonight! +++Gravebuster Message # 616. Reply to #615 Date: 02/08/92. Time: 00:35:14. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Just To Let You Gnow RECEIVED WELL WAAAAAA! THEN. C- - - P.S. YOU MISSED THE EXPLOSION. Message # 617. Reply to #616 Date: 02/08/92. Time: 11:26:10. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Just To Let You Gnow RECEIVED That was precisely why I didn't show up! +++Gravebuster --==great match, eh?==-- Message # 618. Reply to #609 Date: 02/09/92. Time: 02:21:04. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED So was I... Message # 619. Reply to #604 Date: 02/09/92. Time: 14:58:50. Read 19 Times. From : Ubik To : Number Two Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Far out. How are you going to do this? Do you hope to recover intact DNA from your stool samples and re-clone it? Ubik just wondering Message # 620. Reply to #611 Date: 02/09/92. Time: 15:02:10. Read 15 Times. From : Ubik To : Number Two Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Number Two an Obfuscate??? I knew there was something wrong with that guy! Ubik #620. Message # 621. Reply to #618 Date: 02/13/92. Time: 20:41:29. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Well, seeing as you are a pro at existing in Non, tell me, what did you do while you existed as such, and how did you cease your non-existence? Did someone blow you into non-oblivion? Did oblivion blow you into non-someone? Or did you exist when oblivion blew someone into cessation? And what is cessation of non-existence, other than the existence outside of the great beyond? And is this cessation beyond oblivion, or did I just blow it? +++Gravebuster Message # 622. Reply to #621 Date: 02/13/92. Time: 23:07:41. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Actually, I just tapped my heels together and repeated "There's no place like home..." Message # 623. Reply to #622 Date: 02/14/92. Time: 23:44:35. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED So everyone should tap their heels together and say the magic mantra, "There's no place like home." Unless, of course, someone has built a replica house, and in this county, that is very likely, and since we are not talking about "exactly", then almost everybody can't say that there's no place like home truthfully, because almost everybody who calls this board has a tract home, but then, who said it had to be true for us to say it, which brings up the problem of those of us who may sport artifical legs, because do those type of heels count, and would there be a problem in tapping them together, and what is the difference between a tap and a click, and what if someone accidentally clicks their heels together rather than tap their heels together, but then those people could find two people who are heals and tap them together, but I wouldn't want to be those people, especially if they use a drill tap, but the mantra isn't magic, and it isn't even a mantra anyway, but we could make it one if we really want to, but we don't really want to, because what we really want to do is sit back, relax, wiggle our toes, read a good book, and have happy thoughts, so I think we should do as I suggest... +++Gravebuster Comments : HAHAHA=42 HUH?=34 Message # 624. Reply to #623 Date: 02/17/92. Time: 01:23:20. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED And what's that? Comments : BRAVO!=34 Message # 625. Reply to #624 Date: 02/18/92. Time: 23:00:05. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Precisely! +++Gravebuster Message # 627. Reply to #619 Date: 02/19/92. Time: 07:56:03. Read 14 Times. From : Number Two To : Ubik Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Naw, just leftovers. Message # 628. Reply to #620 Date: 02/19/92. Time: 07:56:50. Read 12 Times. From : Number Two To : Ubik Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED What can you do? Message # 629. Date: 02/23/92. Time: 02:02:24. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Subj : RECEIVED Down with yellow kumquats!!! Message # 630. Reply to #629 Date: 02/23/92. Time: 12:49:59. Read 12 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : RECEIVED Agreed. +++Gravebuster #630. Message # 631. Date: 02/23/92. Time: 12:52:22. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Read Message #462 RECEIVED Go back and read message #462, and you will learn about the significance of certain comment numbers. +++Gravebuster Comments : BRAVO!=3 Message # 632. Reply to #631 Date: 02/27/92. Time: 11:36:04. Read 16 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Read Message #462 RECEIVED That sucks, it won't accept pi!!!! ! Message # 633. Reply to #632 Date: 02/27/92. Time: 21:07:13. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Read Message #462 RECEIVED That is because of the ineffable sublimity of pi. +++Gravebuster Message # 634. Reply to #633 Date: 02/29/92. Time: 02:28:58. Read 15 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Read Message #462 RECEIVED And because it is sub op here. Harumph! Your Pal 2 Message # 635. Reply to #634 Date: 02/29/92. Time: 02:29:59. Read 13 Times. From : Number Two To : Number Two Subj : Read Message #462 RECEIVED God, I love 34! 2 laP ruoY Message # 636. Reply to #633 Date: 02/29/92. Time: 13:25:46. Read 13 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Read Message #462 RECEIVED Oh, I guess I'll adopt 69 then. Message # 637. Reply to #634 Date: 03/01/92. Time: 00:14:03. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Read Message #462 RECEIVED No, pi is not sub op here. Non-existent is. And don't go pushing your religion on us, whippersnapper! +++Gravebuster Message # 638. Reply to #636 Date: 03/01/92. Time: 00:14:52. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Read Message #462 RECEIVED I was hoping you would. +++Gravebuster Message # 639. Reply to #638 Date: 03/01/92. Time: 14:24:56. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Read Message #462 RECEIVED I'd much prefer 42 though... s. Message # 640. Date: 03/04/92. Time: 09:38:25. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two To : ALL Subj : Ruin... Ned ruins the whole experience of this board for me. He twists things like a pretzel maker, and then rubs salt in them. I really don't enjoy pretzels all that much. Be Seeing You??? #640. Message # 641. Reply to #640 Date: 03/04/92. Time: 17:53:58. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Number Two Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED Wah! . Message # 642. Reply to #641 Date: 03/05/92. Time: 07:38:32. Read 13 Times. From : Number Two To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED Spend more thyme reading Oolon Coluphid's trilogy of philosophical blockbusters and you might clear that up. (Fermez la bouche, and continue to chew on your pretzels. As a matter of fact, have mine too!) Be Seeing You?? Message # 643. Reply to #640 Date: 03/05/92. Time: 19:20:17. Read 16 Times. From : Ubik To : Number Two Subj : Ruin... Two Dude, Mellow thy self out. Verily the wind doth make much noise. It doth howl and it doth blow. Verily it doth even suck at times. Be of strong mind though. The wind is just so much hot air and it can effect the not. If there were no dumb shits we would be in heaven already. Do your time on earth like a nice number. Dont let it bug ya -s- - -S- - -- inkydoo -- -s- s | | | |===================================== | |===================================== |--| \__ |\_\ \|\_\ \|\_\ \|\_\ \|_| Comments : WAY!=34 HAHAHA=142 BRAVO!=100 Message # 644. Reply to #643 Date: 03/07/92. Time: 04:32:09. Read 15 Times. From : Muckpup To : Ubik Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED Aye, I see the sense in it but my receptors can be none too short on sensitvity and the creation of the energy of feeling Words can sting and sore but worse are the twister whose very gaze causes words once sharp like poinards Into curling coils too long, and too deep I hate to see my children belittled and deformed as fruit? they are best ripe and freshened not mashed into some idiots slop Otherwise, I am center and the external is essentially bereft of the dagger of grief Thank you master Inkydoo Thrive! -kb Message # 645. Reply to #639 Date: 03/07/92. Time: 16:26:04. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Read Message #462 RECEIVED Well, you'll have to bargain with HM for that one. +++Gravebuster Message # 646. Reply to #640 Date: 03/07/92. Time: 16:26:31. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED I don't gnow why NZ ruins the board for you. However I don't read the War Board, either, and that may make the difference. On the rest of the boards, he may be rude and abrasive at times, but he's usually funny, too. It's like what HM said on the Tavern--NZ has been behaving himself on all the other subboards. I suggest you consider whether or not your opinion of him hasn't been clouded by convos on the War Board. The War Board shouldn't be taken seriously. I say that because I have a good opinion of NZ as a user. Besides, I gnew what he was like years ago when he was Nibbling Ned, and he's improved so much since then. +++Gravebuster --==better yet, listen to Howard Stern on KLSX for a week. NZ's tame compared to his idol==-- Comments : NO WAY!=23 Message # 647. Reply to #641 Date: 03/07/92. Time: 16:30:42. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED You have such a way with words, there... +++Gravebuster Message # 648. Reply to #645 Date: 03/10/92. Time: 00:26:56. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Read Message #462 RECEIVED It doesn't matter, since SOME people use other peoples numbers... ...eh GB? Message # 649. Reply to #646 Date: 03/10/92. Time: 00:28:22. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED Indeed, Ned has changed a lot. I would like to point out that me and him are at odds about many things, our outlooks on life are completely contrary to each other, we both think that the other person is quite closed-minded (and we're both probably right), and we tend to annoy the heck out of each other, BUT, we both post to each other, we accept each others opinions and form of expression, however far out they may seem, and we don't bitch about each other right and left, asserting that the other person ruins the board for each other. It's called communication. Message # 650. Reply to #647 Date: 03/10/92. Time: 00:32:51. Read 21 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED WAAH! . #650. Message # 651. Reply to #649 Date: 03/10/92. Time: 19:27:29. Read 19 Times. From : Number two To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED He discusses with you because you both agree on alot of stuff. I also agree thathe has changed, but that is a moot point. He can do what he likes here, as long as he doesn't go past whatever sensible boundries that Ray sets up. I really don't mind, too much, what anybody says. I am just a very emotional person, and without facial, and hand gestures, and voice inflection cues; I have the tendency to read alot more intoa post than was originally intended. I enjoy this form of communication, but it is severally limited in a "real" sense. Your pal 2 Message # 652. Reply to #649 Date: 03/10/92. Time: 21:01:01. Read 14 Times. From : Ubik To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED Neat concept. Ubik Message # 653. Reply to #651 Date: 03/11/92. Time: 00:16:27. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Number two Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED YES, THAT'S TRUE. IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD COME UP WITH WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO DESCRIBE THEIR EMOTIONS WHILE THEY ARE TYPING. MAYBE WE SHOULD COME UP WITH A COLOR PROTOCOL. RED = PISSED, BLUE = SAD, ETC. OF COURSE, THEN GRAVEBUSTER WOULD BE FORCED TO BUY A REAL COMPUTER. C- - - Comments : HAHAHA=100 Message # 654. Reply to #653 Date: 03/11/92. Time: 16:51:57. Read 17 Times. From : Number two To : HACK MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED Then I would be forced to buy a real computer. Anyway, so how are those smogberry bushes I planted in your microwave doing? I hope you have had the chance to propel........oooooooohhhh ack! USER LOGGED INBETWEEN Message # 656. Reply to #649 Date: 03/13/92. Time: 07:20:43. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED What's communication? What? You mean we are actually supposed to pay attention to what the other person is saying? And we are supposed to show that we understood before responding? What a radical concept! +++Gravebuster Message # 657. Reply to #650 Date: 03/13/92. Time: 07:22:14. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED That was even more eloquent, with each letter sized for a perfect expression and the extra 'a' added to give a certain personality to the whole post! +++Gravebuster Message # 658. Reply to #651 Date: 03/13/92. Time: 07:24:25. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number two Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED TMM said in the previous post that he and NZ disagree on a lot of things, and that both consider the other one to be close-minded. They really don't have that many things in common with each other, but they apparently can communicate with each other anyways. If you gnow that you read too much into a message, shouldn't you just skip past those messages that provoke you and go back to them after a day or so? +++Gravebuster --==just suggesting==-- Message # 659. Reply to #653 Date: 03/13/92. Time: 07:27:53. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED I gnew there was a plot to get me to cave in to this herd mentality about actually owning a real computer. I gnew this suspicion wasn't just paranoia! Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me! I have proof! Proof! Call the newspapers! +++Gravebuster --==...==-- Message # 660. Reply to #648 Date: 03/13/92. Time: 07:29:57. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Read Message #462 RECEIVED Yeah, TMM, please don't use my 100, and if you want, I'll remove those 69s. +++Gravebuster --==:)==-- Comments : WAY!=69 #660. Message # 661. Reply to #658 Date: 03/13/92. Time: 10:21:55. Read 17 Times. From : Number two To : Gravebuster Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED well, that might be prudent. friends, after having seen the way I talk while logged on, say I should quit, "if it's all like that" meaning Nz, of course. You know I actually considered that for about two weeks, then thought, fuck no, I'd hate to lose a whole bunch of friends over a genetic Irish temper that's been dormant too long and wont take a back seat to any of my higher brain functions especially when I am using a bulletin borad or have ingested a mind altering substance like bad mayonaise. --=='tis not worth it==-- The Obfuscates push-pin pall's obfuscate.......tWo --==Imagine that, me...an obfuscate? Get real!==-- Message # 662. Date: 03/14/92. Time: 13:51:10. Read 15 Times. From : Number two To : Monitor of Telepathic Tra Subj : Hey what a minute.. Isn't this the Temple of Diffusion? Aren't you guys the Blurrfuscates or am I at the wrong party? Your Pal Refractee Message # 663. Reply to #651 Date: 03/16/92. Time: 14:43:37. Read 19 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Number two Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED I agree about the limitations, and as a result, don't take anything seriously. I can't afford to. Message # 664. Reply to #656 Date: 03/16/92. Time: 14:45:03. Read 18 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED One I rarely abide by. Oh, and yes to your second question.... Message # 665. Reply to #657 Date: 03/16/92. Time: 14:45:54. Read 18 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED Plus, it was a four letter word! Message # 666. Reply to #659 Date: 03/16/92. Time: 14:48:10. Read 20 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED YOU don't have a real computer???? Message # 667. Date: 03/16/92. Time: 14:50:44. Read 19 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Subj : RECEIVED It's alive... Message # 668. Reply to #663 Date: 03/16/92. Time: 17:42:00. Read 23 Times. From : Ubik To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED Life is too important to be taken seriously. Oscar Wilde Message # 669. Reply to #668 Date: 03/17/92. Time: 12:11:19. Read 20 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Ubik Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED Very true! Message # 670. Reply to #664 Date: 03/17/92. Time: 23:54:39. Read 21 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED Oh, good. For a moment there, I thought you were ignoring mi, and what would do and re do without mi... +++Gravebuster #670. Message # 671. Reply to #665 Date: 03/17/92. Time: 23:55:49. Read 22 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED And it was followed by the sacred dot... +++Gravebuster Message # 672. Reply to #666 Date: 03/17/92. Time: 23:56:11. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED No, I have a dumb terminal hooked to a smartmodem, and it's monochrome to boot, so everything looks like different shades of green... +++Gravebuster --==this right here, for example, looks green to me...==-- Message # 673. Reply to #663 Date: 03/18/92. Time: 14:19:17. Read 29 Times. From : Number two To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED I agree, but it is stimuli, and it does affect me, whether I like it or not. Don't take that the wrong way. I mean it affects everyone who looks at it, just to differant degrees. Me, I am affected a pretty good amount. Not on stupid war posts, but on posts that quote me wrong or misuse what I say. That is what really makes me irate. Warring is an elemental function of a bbs, and should not be completely stifled, just controlled. Occaisonally, a war can be good for you, clean out the psyche and all that. Hell, I enjoy a good war, now and again myself. I am sub-op on two war boards in the area, so I must do it sometimes. In finsihing, I must add that I know a great deal of the users here, and have enjoyed there company in person and had plenty of fun with them that had nothing whatsoever to do with a bbs. Friends have much less tendency to take things wrong in a bbs format. That is why I like this board.....Friends!! Take Care of Yourselves... Your Pal Kevin Comments : WAY!=23 Message # 674. Reply to #651 Date: 03/20/92. Time: 00:37:17. Read 20 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : Number two Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED It is only limited when you try and add to what is said. When you take it all seriously and when you become truely mad over it is when you have gone over the edge. Some people think I have done this online, but I have yet to get Truely mad or take something seriously that was not private. (even when private it depends on who and what it is). Alot of my posts are not of my true feelings... Especially on the Tavern. I say alot of stuff just to see what certain users will come back with. However, I am also alot like myself online. I react as if I would someone was talking to me in person, but then I just fluff it off and don't let it bother me. i have recieved many a private mail asking me why i was mad or the like and had to explain this... Nz is the same way but far worse and more abrasive. He is playing a nifty complicated computer game. We are the elements of the game... Anyway... Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym p.s. it's amazing how such small things I did and said caused so much activity... I'm not claiming everything or bragging... just marveling at it. Nz plays the game with a different style... Message # 675. Date: 03/20/92. Time: 15:30:15. Read 19 Times. From : Number two To : Anyone who cares Subj : My new number...if you care! Kevin "Eat a slug and die or vomit" Boyle 643-2757 (caution this is long distance from Camarillo) 1075 N. Olive street Apt. 30 Ventura. ca 9 3 0 0 1 awwwwwwww+++ OK øøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøxüxøøøøx USER LOGGED OFF Message # 676. Reply to #675 Date: 03/20/92. Time: 20:38:48. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number two Subj : My new number...if you care! RECEIVED I guess you didn't vomit... +++Gravebuster --==gotta watch out for those vicious telephone lines==-- Message # 677. Reply to #676 Date: 03/21/92. Time: 23:21:56. Read 19 Times. From : Number two To : Gravebuster Subj : My new number...if you care! RECEIVED The phone company is run by Dog boys and their mean women (qoute hahahaha well sort of) Be Seeing You?? Message # 678. Date: 04/01/92. Time: 02:06:17. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : Bugaloo Shrimp Subj : Ahem! You all suck Massive Cheese Sticks -==Obfuscator==-- That's the proper term. I looked it up. Message # 679. Reply to #678 Date: 04/02/92. Time: 21:09:59. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Ahem! RECEIVED You forgot your obfuscation, N2! My words, the word is ours, after the world had neglected it for so long, and we not only expanded its meaningful meaninglessness, but we have changed its pronunciation and its conjugation until the word and its usage is wholly ours! And now the world dares to try and take the word back (I've heard or read it four times in the last year in the media). No, they must, if they wish, take the form they discarded years before, with such sensible things like "obfuscator." No, for us, who gnow nothing and yet have a brighter way and future before us, or after us, or who is us anyway, we shall always be gnown as OBFUSCATES!!!!! +++Gravebuster Message # 680. Reply to #679 Date: 04/03/92. Time: 04:06:59. Read 16 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Ahem! RECEIVED Sounds perfectly selfish and unreasonable. I like it! Yeah, go back into text from about the turn of the century and you will find the word everywhere. It seems in the past almost everyone got obfuscated now and again. Kinda like marijuana nowadays. Your Pal 2 -== ==-- #680. Message # 681. Reply to #680 Date: 04/04/92. Time: 22:50:27. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Ahem! RECEIVED People did something in the past that we don't do much anymore--- DOINK! Huh? What? No, that wasn't what I was going to say! I was going to say--- DOINK! Hey, that's rude! I just want to make my point about reading, and I can't even post the word--- DOINK! Stop that! DOINK! I said DOINK!---no, I meant DOINK! uh oh, I think I'm DOINK! stuck again DOINK! Hheeellllppp!! DOINK! DOINK! DOINK! INFINITE DOINK! MODE ENGAGED Message # 682. Reply to #681 Date: 04/05/92. Time: 02:42:53. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Ahem! RECEIVED I hope you realize how rude it is to send me one of those. You probably don't, soI'll explain. For some odd reason, my space bar doesn't abort posts, and return doesn't skip, so I have to read every message or wait for the more prompt. If it wasn't for the more prompt, I would quit calling here. Infinitely repeating messages are an extreme pain, as I cannot get rid of them. Once I had to actually turn my computer off so I could get out of it. So as cute as Infinite doink mode is, I must ask you to try and protect me from it's everlasting embrace. Thanx, Your Pal 2 --==Hey, I'm everyone's pal==-- Message # 685. Reply to #682 Date: 04/05/92. Time: 12:40:06. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Ahem! RECEIVED Hey, I can help you with that problem. Just stare at this dot--- . You are now feeling very relaxed.Relax. Now your eyelids are barely staying opened.Relax. Now you will do what is necessary to get a real terminal program. You will now awake when I count to three. 1--2--3 Message # 686. Reply to #685 Date: 04/08/92. Time: 05:07:08. Read 14 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Ahem! RECEIVED Stop that (yawn), but as for my terminal program, leave me alone. It's the one Hack Man gave me and I feel very attached to it for that reason. Alot of users are trying to get me to switch to Q modem, but I have so far refused and ferused. You'll have to excuse me now, my brain itches, and the bone saw is in the other room. Be Seeing You?? Message # 687. Date: 04/11/92. Time: 22:47:10. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Test RECEIVED Let me try obfuscatronix. I seem to be having problems. D Message # 688. Date: 04/12/92. Time: 22:50:41. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Another Test RECEIVED Let's see how this works. Here goes... --==it was the Newline; it needs to be "off" on my terminal; problem fixed==-- --==now I need to get caught up on the sci/phi board :)==-- Message # 689. Date: 04/20/92. Time: 01:42:33. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : About Your Problem With The Infinite Obfuscatronix RECEIVED Have you tried hitting the spacebar when it happens? That's the way I get out of it, and I remember when I first encounter the trick that I had problems, too, until ML suggested the spacebar. +++Gravebuster Message # 690 -- Private. #690. Message # 691. Reply to #690 Date: 04/25/92. Time: 19:03:35. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : About Your Problem With The Infinite Obfuscatronix RECEIVED On my terminal/smart modem configuration, there's a function called "Newline" that has to be "off" in order for the returns and the obfuscatronix to work right. Maybe your terminal program has something similar that prevents you from interrupting the infinite routine and skipping to the next message? +++Gravebuster Message # 692. Date: 04/30/92. Time: 20:05:38. Read 21 Times. From : Ubik To : All Subj : Saints You know what this Temple needs? We need some Saints. Discordians got saints. Catholics got saints. Why shouldnt obfuscates have saints. Maybe about 12 of them. So they can fit with regular holidays of some sort. All on Friday of course. The worlds greatest Obfuscators Each should be pretty darn close to unamanious. How about Saint Jimi Curly? The Dali Lama? Wilhelm Reich? Monty Python? we should hear lots of names before deciding this is after all an unspeakably high and prestigious office. Ubik Comments : OBFUSCATED=23 Message # 693. Reply to #685 Date: 05/01/92. Time: 18:56:05. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Ahem! RECEIVED IT'S NOT HIS TERMINAL PROGRAM. IT'S HIS COMPUTER. THE SAME THING WILL HAPPEN WITH ALL 8086'S. YOU SEE WHILE THE COMPUTER IS BEEPING IT CAN DO NOTHING ELSE BECAUSE THE BEEP TAKES OVER THE WHOLE SYSTEM. THE BEEP LASTS ABOUT A HALF A SECOND, SO IF YOU SEND MORE THAN TWO BEEPS A SECOND THERE'S NOTHING #2 CAN DO BUT TURN OFF HIS COMPUTER AND TRY AGAIN. C- - - Message # 694. Reply to #692 Date: 05/01/92. Time: 18:59:52. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Ubik Subj : Saints RECEIVED WELL, I LIKE THE IDEA. BUT I DON'T GNOW IF I LIKE THE TERM SAINT. I HAD THOUGHT BEFORE OF NAMING HONORARY OBFUSCATES. IN FACT I HAD THOUGHT ABOUT EXPANDING IT RADICALLY INTO SOME KIND OF NATIONAL CLUB. ANYBODY WHO WANTED TO COULD BE AN OBFUSCATE, AND THEN THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME KIND OF HIGHER RANK FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE MORE "WORTHY". THEN WE COULD ALSO GET AROUND AND APPOINT HONORARY OBFUSCATES OR WHATEVER THEY MIGHT BE CALLED. WE COULD EVEN MAKE UP A NICE DIPLOMA LIKE CERTIFICATE AND SEND IT TO THESE PEOPLE WHOM WE NAME - AND I'M SURE THEY WOULD RECIEVE IT AND SAY, "WHAT THE HECK IS THAT?" C- - - Message # 695. Reply to #694 Date: 05/02/92. Time: 03:45:35. Read 14 Times. From : Number Two To : HACK MAN Subj : Saints RECEIVED And tell them that in being an Obfuscate they have won $5. Now all they have to do to get their five bux is send a self addressed envelope with $10 to cover postage and handling. --==Flax==-- Your Pal 2 Message # 696. Reply to #693 Date: 05/02/92. Time: 13:38:26. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Ahem! RECEIVED What a difference a beep! makes! +++Gravebuster --==sorry N2!==-- Message # 697. Date: 05/17/92. Time: 06:35:44. Read 25 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : To The Obfuscates Of The First Order Of Kumquatment My life is as empty as a jar of pickles. Nowhere has there ever been seen such an emptiness. The emptiness stretches as far and beyond as my bedroom, and cannot be contained. And what, what can slake the satisfaction of my emptiness? And who, who can answer my statement? I pause for an eternal moment. --==Gravebuster==-- +++OBFUSCATE Message # 698. Reply to #697 Date: 05/18/92. Time: 18:07:21. Read 19 Times. From : Ubik To : Gravebuster Subj : To The Obfuscates Of The First Order Of Kumquatment RECEIVED To ALL: We are going to have to get this guy laid before his brain rots. Ubik M.O. Comments : WAY!=34 HAHAHA=134 BRAVO!=34 Message # 699. Reply to #670 Date: 06/02/92. Time: 01:32:53. Read 16 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED It would probably go fa so the la could catch tido... Comments : HAHAHA=100 Message # 700. Reply to #671 Date: 06/02/92. Time: 01:36:07. Read 27 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED All hail the sacred dot! #700. Message # 701. Reply to #672 Date: 06/02/92. Time: 01:36:39. Read 19 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED My system is opposite of yours, I have a smart terminal and a dumb modem which down't equal each other out very well. In addition to that, my dog just threw up all over me, hold on... . Message # 702. Reply to #673 Date: 06/02/92. Time: 01:39:38. Read 20 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Number two Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED That had to be one of the most obfuscated posts I've seen in a LONG time! jk Message # 703. Reply to #692 Date: 06/02/92. Time: 01:43:33. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Ubik Subj : Saints RECEIVED Dan Qyayle? Message # 704. Reply to #697 Date: 06/02/92. Time: 01:45:38. Read 19 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : To The Obfuscates Of The First Order Of Kumquatment RECEIVED Because it Message # 705. Reply to #698 Date: 06/02/92. Time: 01:46:36. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Ubik Subj : To The Obfuscates Of The First Order Of Kumquatment RECEIVED We should let his brain rot first, then he'll have a better chance of getting laid. Comments : HAHAHA=100 Message # 706. Reply to #700 Date: 06/12/92. Time: 03:02:03. Read 16 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED May it forever tell us when to breathe! Message # 707. Reply to #706 Date: 06/12/92. Time: 14:19:14. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED OH NO! I DON'T SPEAK DOTTISH. (TURNING BLUE) C- - - Message # 708. Reply to #701 Date: 06/17/92. Time: 18:49:17. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED The connectivity of all that absolutely boggles the mind. +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 709. Reply to #704 Date: 06/17/92. Time: 18:50:25. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : To The Obfuscates Of The First Order Of Kumquatment RECEIVED Does be cause it? A revelation! +++Gravebuster Message # 710. Reply to #708 Date: 06/19/92. Time: 01:24:01. Read 19 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED And other things as well! Why does the mind always have to be the thing to get boggled? Why couldn't it boggle the nose? #710. Message # 711. Reply to #709 Date: 06/19/92. Time: 01:26:46. Read 18 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : To The Obfuscates Of The First Order Of Kumquatment RECEIVED Everyone gnows that it's before it! Message # 713. Reply to #711 Date: 06/20/92. Time: 22:08:29. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : To The Obfuscates Of The First Order Of Kumquatment RECEIVED But is it b-side itself? +++Gravebuster Message # 714. Reply to #710 Date: 06/20/92. Time: 22:09:15. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED I just realized I never really gnew what "boggle" meant. I doubt many of us did... boggle, v.i., 1. to hesitate, as from doubt or scruples; shrink back, of with 'at.' 2. To start with fright, as a horse. 3. To equivocate*; dissemble. 4. To work clumsily; fumble. --v.t. 5. To make a botch of; bungle. I won't post the noun definitions. Since "boggles the mind" is definitely a verb with a direct object, definition 5 is the only one that can pertain, because none of the other definitions take direct objects. However, the way I use it is more similar to definition 3, and even then, I meant it more as "confused" than "equivocated and dissembled", which involves deception. Since I'm hardly the first one nor the only one who uses "boggles the mind," I think the dictionaries may need to add to the definitions of that word. But based on definition 5, I definitely think you can boggle the nose, too. +++Gravebuster --==*I had to look up "equivocate" and "dissemble", too.==-- Message # 715. Reply to #713 Date: 06/21/92. Time: 03:36:26. Read 16 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : To The Obfuscates Of The First Order Of Kumquatment RECEIVED Only Message # 716. Reply to #705 Date: 06/28/92. Time: 13:17:10. Read 12 Times. From : Number Two To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : To The Obfuscates Of The First Order Of Kumquatment RECEIVED Well by then the heady aroma issuing forth from all of his orifices that are any where near the brain might just make it hard for him to get sexed up, but then again my brain hasn't been rotting and I have no idea what that does for your charisma. Your Pal 2 Message # 717. Reply to #706 Date: 06/28/92. Time: 13:18:51. Read 12 Times. From : Number Two To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED "May I breathe now?" "just a sec" "Hurry, I am beginning to turn blue" "just one more second" "Mmmmmph" "huh, what was that?" "oh damn...." Message # 718. Reply to #700 Date: 07/25/92. Time: 02:30:12. Read 12 Times. From : Unka Buck To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED . --==UNKA BUCK==-- --==OBFUSCSATE==-- Message # 719. Reply to #710 Date: 07/25/92. Time: 02:33:55. Read 15 Times. From : Unka Buck To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED Doesn't Hack Mans Big Toe frequently get boggled? -UNKA BUCK- Message # 720. Date: 07/25/92. Time: 02:36:24. Read 15 Times. From : Unka Buck To : all Subj : I'll believe it when I see it... It is just possible that Unka Buck [remember him?] will be in the area from the 12th to the 19th of August. It is further possible that he may wish to get together with other Obfuscates during that time. --== UNKA BUCK ==-- --== OBFUSCATE ==-- #720. Message # 721. Reply to #692 Date: 07/29/92. Time: 03:01:58. Read 21 Times. From : Unka Buck To : Ubik Subj : Saints I like Ubiks idea. Obfuscates need Saints. I would like to open the unofficial nominations. Nominees for Obfuscatory sainthood, listed in obfubetical order. Andy Warhol- Pop artist. If multi-colored Marilyn Monroes and giant Campbell soup cans, as art, aren't proof enough of obfuscation, then watch the movie "Empire." (8 hours of the Empire State Building, nothing else.) Edgar Allen Poe- Poet and writer. Said that the name "Lenore" is one of the most beautiful names ever, and used it in several of his poems. While a cadet at Westpoint, was ordered to report in the morning "in full dress coat." Reported the next morning, "in full dress coat." And nothing else. D. B. Cooper- Airplane hijacker. Alias used by unknown man who hijacked a jumbo jet. Held crew and passengers hostage until paid hundreds of thousands in ransom. Surprised everyone by parachuting out of plane over remote wilderness. Never found. Saint George- Former saint. Recently had sainthood revoked by Catholic church for trivial offense of never having existed. Let's restore his sainthood. I like the idea of a nonexistant person being made an obfuscasaint. Loki- Norse god of mischief. Great trickster with a long history of obfuscating all those other, more uptight, Norse gods. Besides, who could resist promoting a god to a saint in the name of obfuscation. Who- Jack-of-all-trades. Played great 1st base for years before receiving his doctorate and becoming a Gallifreyan Time Lord. Had a long string of Rock and Roll hits, and obfuscated an elephant named Horton into believing a whole world existed on a speck of dust. (Should not be confused with "Who?") J. Golden Kimball- Mormon Apostle. Gnown as "The Swearing Apostle." When told he would go to Hell for swearing, replied, "I will not, I repent too damn fast." Once obfuscated a large congregation into voting in favor of moving a mountain to the other side of the valley. Monty Python- Dramatist. Gnown mostly for his sensitive, moving portrayal of Shrike the Rabbit. Yogi Berra- Philosopher. Because it really isn't over 'til it's over. And, because, 90% of Obfuscation is half mental. FARB- Antarean Spaceship Captain. Started whole UFO flap after too much of the local brandy. Headed Air Force's Project Blue Book for years. Ghost writer for Eric Von Dahneken. Elvis- Undead. Has visted more grocery stores than any other dead person ever. Kim Basinger- Babe. I gnow, she can't obfuscate worth kumquats, [...buy Gravebuster's Kumquat Juice, $35 a case, $50 if your initials are H M...] but it would be nice to have her hanging around at the investiture. Honorable(?) Mention: Nixon- Vulcan statesman. Because, only he could go to China. Would be refered to as "Saint Tricky." Racer X- Ex-Obfuscate. The only Obfuscate obfuscated enough to not be an Obfuscate. Dan Quayle- Idiot. If he was doing it on purpose, he might be the greatest Obfuscate ever. ("...now get back up there and put an 'E' on the end of it...") Other nominations are eagerly awaited. --==UNKA BUCK==-- --==OBFUSCATE==-- Comments : HAHAHA=100 Message # 722. Reply to #721 Date: 07/30/92. Time: 01:05:35. Read 15 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Unka Buck Subj : Saints RECEIVED Hey. I LIKE that! We SHOULD have saints. (And they don't have to be dead for 200 years first...) Should we do like the Christians and all take an additional name of one of the saints upon being "confirmed"? I like your selection, although I disagree with... uh... Who was it I disagreed with? I think it was D.B. Cooper and the guy that came after him in your list. D.B. Cooper was cool, but not really Obfuscatory. I propose we call them Obfusaints, unless someone can think of a better idea. By the way, why are you so mysteriously posting here and no where else and why is no one agnowledging your presense? This isn't another one of those imaginary things again, is it? I'm not flipping out again, am I? Saint George sounds cool. He must have been imaginary. Anyway, here are my proposals for Obfusaints: Charles Shultz (Cartoonist--Author of Peanuts) Introduced characters with names like 5. (Full name 555 95472) and makes jokes about pi. Later, uses the number, googol, in a comic strip (describing the chances of Schroder ever marry- Lucy) Where else are you going to see a line like, "That's a terrible feeling to feel the need to have the feeling of having?" Introduced such figures as the Great Pumpkin, Snoopy, and a REAL child psychologist. Dan Piraro (Another Cartoonist--Author of Bizarro) Buy any of his comic books and that will be proof enough. Makes Gary Larson look normal. !!! GAVISCON AVISCENNA BASINGER !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -I like that. Too long, though. Message # 723. Reply to #719 Date: 08/02/92. Time: 21:02:02. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Unka Buck Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED UH. YEAH. IT'S BEEN BOGGLED RIGHT NOW AS A MATTER OF FACT. C- - - Message # 724. Reply to #721 Date: 08/02/92. Time: 21:05:27. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Unka Buck Subj : Saints RECEIVED HAHAHAHA! C- - - Message # 725. Reply to #721 Date: 08/07/92. Time: 12:03:01. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Unka Buck Subj : Saints RECEIVED I have a question I would like the Obfuscates to debate on. Should Murphy be an obfuscate saint? I mean, consider this: by making one observation about human life, he totally obliterated most religious and philosophical thinking. "If anything can go wrong, it will." What do you think? +++Gravebuster Message # 726. Reply to #725 Date: 08/16/92. Time: 00:47:23. Read 11 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Saints RECEIVED I disagree with everyone's nominations for Obfusaints. Your Pal 2 Message # 727. Reply to #726 Date: 08/16/92. Time: 04:11:19. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Saints RECEIVED Then Everyone had better not waste any time nominating obfusaints, hadn't he? +++Gravebuster Message # 728. Reply to #726 Date: 08/19/92. Time: 01:10:29. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Number Two Subj : Saints RECEIVED I DISAGREE WITH YOUR DISAGREEMENT AND FIND IT RATHER DISAGREEABLE. SO, WHY DON'T WE JUST AGREE TO DISAGREE, OR PERHAPS DISAGREE TO AGREE. DO YOU AGREE? C- - - Message # 729. Reply to #728 Date: 08/19/92. Time: 02:08:17. Read 11 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Saints RECEIVED Only when I have to... +++Gravebuster --==besides, it's not civil to talk about such things...==-- Message # 730. Date: 08/23/92. Time: 23:58:17. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : SKRANK HOWDY. #730. Message # 731. Reply to #730 Date: 08/24/92. Time: 06:38:12. Read 11 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : SKRANK RECEIVED Yes, and may the moon eclipse your water bill as well. +++Gravebuster Message # 732. Reply to #727 Date: 08/26/92. Time: 06:48:45. Read 12 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Saints RECEIVED I agree and thanx for taking my side GB. We need Obfusaints....just not right now. Let's wait a while and maybe one will pop up. Your Pal 2 Message # 733. Reply to #728 Date: 08/26/92. Time: 06:49:49. Read 12 Times. From : Number Two To : HACK MAN Subj : Saints RECEIVED Quite possibly. Let's put it to commitee Your Pal 2 Message # 734. Reply to #733 Date: 08/26/92. Time: 12:15:22. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Saints RECEIVED I tried putting it to a committee once, but it didn't like committees, so I put it to work, and it was quite content last I gnew... +++Gravebuster Message # 735. Reply to #734 Date: 08/28/92. Time: 03:37:03. Read 12 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Saints RECEIVED Let's pickle it and see if it tastes better later. --==at least that's what mom would say==-- Your Pal 2 Message # 736. Reply to #735 Date: 08/30/92. Time: 01:23:23. Read 11 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Saints RECEIVED Nah! That would tend to clarify things, and we don't want any clarification going on around here. Besides, depending on the pickle, it might change your political philosophy. +++Gravebuster Message # 740. Date: 09/18/92. Time: 05:42:54. Read 21 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : The Obfuscate's Book Of Something To Read Page One We must open our eyes to see. We must speak to say something. We must realize that there's nothing we must do. A fire burns when it's hot. To understand is to comprehend. Where shall we go when we get to where we're going? Only pi gnows when a circle ends. You make apple sauce by mashing apples. All paved roads cover up dirt. When it rains, we get wet. Is there anything about a dill pickle that one should desire? You can read when you see letters. +++Gravebuster #740. Message # 741. Date: 09/18/92. Time: 12:07:41. Read 21 Times. From : peggy To : All Subj : Social Security SOCIAL SECURITY She knows a cashier who blushes and lets her use food stamps to buy tulip bulbs and rose bushes. We smile each morning as I pass her - her hand always married to some stick or hoe, or rake. One morning I shout, "I'm not skinny like you so I've gooa run two miles each day." She begs me closer, whispers to my flesh, "All you need, honey, is to be on welfare and love roses." Comments : OBFUSCATED=100 Message # 742. Date: 09/18/92. Time: 22:38:51. Read 23 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : The Obfuscates' Book Of Something To Read Page Two DOINK! The preceding saying is the oldest saying in this book. All politicians are liars; Never vote for a liar; Always vote. To enter an open door, the door must first be opened. I always lie. Hate people who hate. It's all one big thing! Only pi gnows the exact circumference. Believe, and you shall have faith. When you have nothing, then that's something. +++Gravebuster Message # 743. Reply to #740 Date: 09/21/92. Time: 04:06:40. Read 30 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : Gravebuster Subj : The Obfuscate's Book Of Something To Read RECEIVED PERMIFIED I can see with my eyes closed! I can say something without speaking! I realize that there's nothing I must do, expect maybe suck. Even cold fires burn! I have understood without comprehending and I have comprehended without understanding. Where are we going? A circle has no end, no beginning, and PI is incapable of gnowing anything let alone something that does not exist, except maybe TMM. I make apples by smashing applesauce! OK, CLEAN THE EARTH BY PAVING IT! When it rains, the water gets Earthed. One thing I desire about dill pickles is there absence. Who can read when they see letters? Only those who see letters arranged in a fashion that is worthy of reading or those who can read when nothing is meant by the letters (as many try to do and fail). Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym p.s. DOINK! Message # 745. Reply to #743 Date: 09/21/92. Time: 11:58:34. Read 21 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Mynk Lynx Subj : The Obfuscate's Book Of Something To Read RECEIVED And tell me, are you such that you have been obfuscated by The Book Of Something To Read without realizing the obfuscation by which you have been obfuscated? +++Gravebuster -minor confusion Message # 746. Reply to #745 Date: 09/22/92. Time: 00:59:49. Read 21 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : The Obfuscate's Book Of Something To Read RECEIVED No, actually it was the marmalade that caused it........... Your Pal 2 Message # 747. Reply to #746 Date: 09/22/92. Time: 12:33:51. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : The Obfuscate's Book Of Something To Read RECEIVED I wonder if pistachios would help? +++Gravebuster Message # 748. Date: 09/24/92. Time: 16:43:51. Read 23 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : The Obfuscates' Book Of Something To Read Who shall drink when one is thirsty? Who shall eat when one is hungry? Who shall sleep when one is tired? Who shall do nothing when one is lazy? Who shall speak when one says something? Who shall be quiet when one says nothing? Who shall "DOINK!" when one is DOINKish? Who shall elucidate when one is lucid? Who shall cry when one is tearful? Who shall laugh when one is mirthful? Who shall gnow when one has learned? Why ask who if who is not you? +++Gravebuster Comments : BRAVO!=100 Message # 749. Date: 09/25/92. Time: 21:04:56. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : WAH TEST. C- - - Comments : WAY!=42 HAHAHA=42 OBFUSCATED=42 DOINK=42 BRAVO!=42 Message # 750. Date: 10/08/92. Time: 19:20:21. Read 29 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : The Obfuscates' Book Of Something To Read Page four. Obfuscation is the art of explaining a concept so well that the audience will appreciate its importance and not be troubled by meaning. Obfuscation is seriously comical and comically serious while maintaining an illusion that is reality and disrupting a reality that is illusion when the whole thing could be laid out and everything is simply tangled up and the point one is trying to make causes one to wonder if a point was really made. Obfuscation is like the moon, which shines so brightly casting hardly any light and accents the darkness in which we can't see; which also causes the oceans to slop a little over the rims of their bowls so we can get our feet wet; and which always shows one side of its surface to the Earth while the other side is never seen, except by a satellite, of which it is one, forever circling the Earth, baiting men to land on it to see its dust and craters. +++Gravebuster #750. Message # 754. Date: 10/08/92. Time: 19:36:33. Read 31 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : The Obfuscates' Book Of Something To Read Page Five . Message # 756. Date: 10/29/92. Time: 23:59:00. Read 23 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : THE OBFUSCATES BOOK OF SOMETHING TO READ (G.B. YOUR COUNT IS OFF. THIS IS ACTUALLY PAGE 7) [THINGS THAT CAN BE READ IN THE GARAGE.] WE HATE XENOGENESIS DOUBLE GRIP NAILS ..................... NO SEX CAUSES BAD EYES. SMOKE PARTICLE .00025 IN. - HUMAN HAIR .03 IN. - DISK HEAD .00001 IN FOR AMUSEMENT ONLY SPILLS AND SPATTERS DON'T BURN ON. NO WAGERING NO PC SHOULD BE WITHOUT IT NO PRIZES FRESH OIL FAMOUS BRAINS ON DRUGS. ARE YOU STILL HERE? KEEP DIAL A SONG THIS MEDIUM IS CLASSIFIED FROZEN 718-387-6962 CONFIDENTIAL DON'T WORRY IF YOU WORK HARD AND YOUR REWARDS ARE FEW. REMEMBER! THE MIGHTY OAK WAS ONCE A NUT LIKE YOU. THIS CARTON CONTAINS SOME OF THE FINEST ICE CREAM AVAILABLE ANYWHERE. HONK IF YOU LIKE STAR TREK! WHEN SEX IS OUTLAWED... ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE SEX. GROOVE PSYCHOSIS ----- IRATE RADIO 100.3 FM NOVEMBER THIRD IS INDEPENDENT'S DAY. CARE AND HANDLING OF YOUR BALLS...... BUDWEISER WARNING THE SOUND PRESSURE LEVELS IN THIS BUILDING MAY BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR HEARING. WHO SNIFFED MY DINGO? PHREAKERS RU ........ GAV IS DEAD BUT THIS HASN'T CHANGED HIM MUCH SKILLCRAFT VENTURA COUNTY SHERRIF'S DEPARTMENT PRO PUB 2 SMOKE CHART UNATTENDED VEHICLE NOTICE FIEND FOLIO D.C. MILLIAMPERES DOINK! C- - - Message # 757. Reply to #756 Date: 10/31/92. Time: 10:54:57. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : THE OBFUSCATES BOOK OF SOMETHING TO READ RECEIVED No, sorry, but your count is off... Page 1 is message 740 Page 2 is message 742 Page 3 is message 748 Page 4 is message 750 Page 5 is message 754 Page 6 is message 756 (which is your message). You must have got screwed up by Mynk Lynx's reply to page 1. That wasn't a page; that was a reply. Sorry, your royal suckfulness! Anyways, it's a good thing, too, because according to the Quote-O-Matic, a certain phrase needs to appear on page 7. Hence, it's my turn... +++Gravebuster Message # 758. Date: 10/31/92. Time: 10:59:33. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : The Obfuscates' Book Of Something To Read The real page 7... We are all figments of Hack Man's imagination. Our goal is to achieve kumquatment. And DOINK! Do not merely look at glasses that are half-full; also look at glasses that are half-empty as well. Schlabeddy! Anyone interested in a game of tackle volleyball? It rained all night the day I left, The weather it was dry. The sun so hot, I froze to death. Susanna, don't you cry. Oh, Susanna, oh don't you cry for me, For I'm going to Louisiana with A banjo on my knee. NOTICE: APPLICATION FOR ABSENT VOTER BALLOT ENCLOSED. Triangle man always wins. That's supposed to be a wedding vow, not a postal clerk's oath! The last digit of pi is a sacred trust. This means something! +++Gravebuster Message # 759. Date: 11/16/92. Time: 06:11:28. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Sunrise Sermon Mornings inhibit one's ability to awake at a time of one's own choosing. +++Gravebuster Message # 760. Date: 12/24/92. Time: 15:06:15. Read 14 Times. From : Ubik To : YOU! Subj : greetings High! Well, long time no see huh, how have you all been. I've just been busy, thats my only excuse. After a weird and fast summer I got caught up in learning Chineese Medicine (dont ask me to explain) and have been trying to learn three things at once for the last few months. Trying to work too, takes up all my time. I want ti get Chinneese medicine, accupressure, chineese herbology, shiatsu and don kwan do down by spring. Im also trying to work in time to learn to use a new data base program at the same time. So anyway thats where Ive been. In case any of you need my phone number its 647-8370 Do let me know if there are any big events you are up to, I do plan on trying to get out on occasion. So whats new with you guys. Ill try to check back in and see if there are any notes next week. Ill probably just read this board, wont have time for the rest. Gravie, I noticed you just answered some messages I wrote last spring. Thats what I like about you. Time has never been a problem. My problem though is that I cant remember what we were talking about back then. (ye I know I could look back (but Im too busy(there it is again(starting to sound weak isnt it)))). Anyway, leave me a message, I miss you guys, your some of the finest sick minds anywhere. Keep up the good work! UBIK! No Limits! #760. Message # 761. Reply to #760 Date: 12/25/92. Time: 05:32:16. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ubik Subj : greetings RECEIVED My words! He did get my messages! Well, Ubik, I hope you call the board today, because there is a Christmas gathering at the Garage. And maybe, if we're good and obfuscated, Santa Hack will drop by. Who gnows? And the same to you, Gav and Tazz! If you read this message, drop by the Garage after 7pm tonight, 25 Dec 92. +++Gravebuster Message # 762. Date: 12/26/92. Time: 01:23:16. Read 16 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : DOINK Subj : smubject Walking down MELODY LANE, I found that my feet made noises resembling music, but in a rather random fashion. However, it was much less random than that played by a spongy saxophone. Especially when the sax was purple in color. Like you, I would be rather suprised if this were to happen. Since it was happening, not only would I be suprised, but I was suprised. As a matter of fact, at the time that it was happening, not only would I be suprised and was suprised but I am suprised. As a matter or course, or rough, or ruff, as my dog might say, if I had a dog, and if it could talk, and if it could, why would it say something as simple as ruff, when there are so many other complex things to say such as smorgasbord, even if you're not sure how it is spelled. Actually, I'd like to hear somebody sing smorgasbord. It might sound similar to walking down MELODY LANE. Not suprisingly, this has no consequence if you can't hear, read (which is included in seeing, you see (if you can, or course, or will, or ego, or superego, or SubGenius)), or walk (a motor activity). But I digress. I will close with the famous word, PENIS! Message # 763. Reply to #762 Date: 12/26/92. Time: 08:54:08. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Cleric Ilsaram Subj : smubject RECEIVED But how shall we deal with the empathy of cacophany, let alone the cards? +++Gravebuster Message # 764. Reply to #759 Date: 01/16/93. Time: 05:28:06. Read 13 Times. From : YellowBeard To : Gravebuster Subj : Sunrise Sermon RECEIVED Evening sermon: Never let the sun go down on your anger at having to get up with the sun. YB Comments : HAHAHA=100 Message # 765. Date: 01/21/93. Time: 01:46:57. Read 17 Times. From : YellowBeard To : all Subj : nomination?? Hey all, I would like to submit a request to make Arwen an obfuscate. Here are some reasons why: 1. Because. 2. Just because. 3. Eskimos live in igloos. 3.1415927... It's the irrational thing to do. 4. Green is red. 5. She's my wife. 6. It's all one big thing. 7. One false move and the sock gets it! 8. Because my cat is moooing at the door. 9. I have the whole ball of wax. 10. Because David Letterman won't do this top ten list. -- References available upon coercion -- YellowObfuscate Message # 766. Reply to #765 Date: 01/21/93. Time: 05:45:52. Read 20 Times. From : Gravebuster To : YellowBeard Subj : nomination?? RECEIVED I second the nomination, and I would also like to forward Stranger to be considered for obfuscate, and I can't come up with ten reasons, because by the time I write one, it wouldn't be true anymore, which may be all the reason I need to show that he's an obfuscate... +++Gravebuster Message # 767. Date: 01/30/93. Time: 01:40:22. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : The Oracle at Delphi Subj : Fraqctilactic Structures What if ?? no, really...... I have been wodering, and IF you told what IT might be....perhaps.... I would might be able to know then again Message # 768. Reply to #767 Date: 01/30/93. Time: 09:00:25. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Fraqctilactic Structures RECEIVED But then again, and again, which bores me, but not that, if then can be it... +++Gravebuster Message # 770. Date: 02/02/93. Time: 02:43:14. Read 17 Times. From : YellowBeard To : HACK MAN Subj : Obfuscatronix device RECEIVED Hey HM.... I got an idea for yet another obfuscatronix 'device'. This one is in honor of Entropy.... We have random numbers, colors, user names, and screen positions... Now we need random letters as well, and how about something really strange... like a random speed adjust, or something like that? Just more twisted thinking on my part... YellowObfuscate (BTW, for some reason, I can't recall how to use the ^In commmand, I wanted to use it with the random number (^v). DOINK #770. Message # 771. Reply to #763 Date: 02/10/93. Time: 02:58:43. Read 15 Times. From : YellowBeard To : Gravebuster Subj : smubject RECEIVED Nevermind the cards, and spank the dog. Why? Becuase grandma said so, even if the dog did say PENIS, it wouldn't be melodious. YellowBeard - What can I say? It's in the cards. Message # 772. Reply to #771 Date: 02/10/93. Time: 07:54:51. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : YellowBeard Subj : smubject RECEIVED Oh, it's in the cards, huh? Let's see now.... TTTTT H H EEEEE CCC AAA RRRR DDDD SSSS T H H E C C A A R R D D S T HHHHH I EEEEE T C ' AAAAA S RRRR D D SSS T H H E C C A A R R D D S T H H EEEEE CCC A A R R DDDD SSSS My my my, you're right! It's in the cards! +++Gravebuster --==how'd you gnow?==-- Message # 773. Reply to #766 Date: 03/01/93. Time: 20:16:25. Read 16 Times. From : Ubik To : Gravebuster Subj : nomination?? RECEIVED UBIKS VORTEøUEaû Line noise NO! Arwen YES! Stranger YES! for all the same reasons except (or especialy) #5 Message # 774. Reply to #773 Date: 03/05/93. Time: 04:20:58. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ubik Subj : nomination?? RECEIVED Okay, so you agree, and I believe Number Two agrees, and Mynk Lynx agrees that Arwen Undomiel should be an obfuscate but he doesn't gnow about Stranger, and I think YellowBeard agrees. But what really matters is; what does HACK MAN think about making Arwen Undomiel and Stranger obfuscates? +++Gravebuster --==Arwen Undomiel and Stranger for obfuscates!==-- Message # 775. Reply to #774 Date: 03/05/93. Time: 20:35:13. Read 19 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : nomination?? RECEIVED Believe what you will........... as for obfuscation, Stranger does quite a bit more than any of us. except for Lord Scum..... Be Seeing You ?? Message # 776. Reply to #770 Date: 03/07/93. Time: 22:38:36. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : YellowBeard Subj : Obfuscatronix device RECEIVED NO I DON'T THINK ^I^v WILL WORK TOGETHER. THAT'S A SECOND DIMENSION OF OBFUSCATIONAL EXTRAPOLATION AND I DON'T THINK THE BBS PROGRAM COULD HANDLE IT. C- - - Message # 777. Date: 03/07/93. Time: 22:40:43. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : OBFUSCATES I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE SHOULD DO ABOUT THE OBFUSCATES. GIVE ME SOME INPUT HERE. I'D LIKE TO GET MORE PEOPLE INTO THIS THING HERE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE EXCLUSIVITY OF IT EITHER. ONE PART OF ME WANTS TO LET JUST ABOUT ANYBODY IN. IF WE HAD LOTS OF PEOPLE CALLING OTHER BBS'S AND POSTING --==OBFUSCATE==-- AT THE END OF THEIR NAME IT MIGHT ATTRACT MORE POSTERS HERE. BUT, THAT WOULD DILUTE THE WHOLE THING ALSO. IF I WERE GOING TO RECOMMEND ANYBODY FOR ANYTHING I THINK THAT ARWEN AND STRANGER WOULD THE BEST CHOICES. WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK OF THE IDEA OF ACTIVELY USING MULTI LEVELS? WE COULD MAKE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR BECOMING AN OBFUSCATE MUCH EASIER (WHAT REQUIREMENTS?), AND THEN WE COULD MAKE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR BECOMING A DILLUSIONIST HARDER. THEN WE COULD MAKE MOST OR ALL OF THE CURRENT OBFUSCATES INTO DILLUSIONISTS. OR, WE COULD CREATE A THIRD CATAGORY THAT GOES UNDERNEATH BOTH OBFUSCATES AND DILLUSIONISTS. I DUNNO, MAYBE I AM OVERBLOWING THE WHOLE THING INTO RIDUCULOUSNESS. MAYBE EVERYTHING IS FUNDAMENTALLY RIDICULOUS? NEED MORE INPUT!! C- - - Message # 778. Reply to #775 Date: 03/10/93. Time: 01:14:55. Read 20 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : nomination?? RECEIVED Do you support Arwen and Stranger for obfuscates? I thought you said so at the Garage awhile ago. +++Gravebuster --==we need your votes, boufcstase, ebofer veretyihgn egst emssde pu!==-- Message # 779. Date: 03/12/93. Time: 18:57:40. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Subj : It's all one big thing. Message # 780. Reply to #779 Date: 03/13/93. Time: 16:32:47. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : RECEIVED And I do so agree voom #780. Message # 781. Date: 03/13/93. Time: 16:33:52. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two To : Mukor Subj : Votes Stranger = yes Arwen = yes everyone else = yes let's all become obfuscates = yes i'm tired and hungry = yes i'm falling in (censored) = yes she's leaving = yes obfuscate = yes ack = no voom Message # 782. Reply to #777 Date: 03/14/93. Time: 00:04:19. Read 22 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : OBFUSCATES RECEIVED I think that Arwen Undomiel and Stranger should be made obfuscates, regardless the outcome of this convo. I also think that candy should be made an obfuscate. :) I don't think you should hand out --==OBFUSCATE==-- to a whole bunch of people, because then there wouldn't be anything special about it. I don't think there should be any other requirement for someone to be an obfuscate other than the one where you decide that someone should be an obfuscate. By the same token, I don't think that there should be any other requirement for some to be a dillusionist other than the one where Lex Luthor decides who should become a dillusionist. I think that since Lex Luthor came up with that, that he, wherever he is, should be the one to decide who's in or not. In other words, I like the status quo, except I want to change it, which is obfuscated, but yeah! +++Gravebuster --==Arwen Undomiel and Stranger for obfuscate!==-- Message # 783. Date: 03/19/93. Time: 14:59:58. Read 23 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : All Subj : DOINK! Stranger does not equal yes!!!! Stranger is equal to Stranger! Same goes for Arwen!!! Besides, we should be using the "Picard/Q" voting method as we decided to do so long ago. (Who cares if we stole it from the 3AM club... it was the Obfuscate 3AMers that made that one up!) In the "Picard/Q" voting method "Q" equals "Aye" and "Picard" equals "Nay". I knonw it seems backwards, but that is how it is, so live with it! To the question of wether or not Arwen and Stranger are given the priviledge of using the "--==OBFUSCATE==--" signoff, access to this sub-board, and access to Obfuscatronix Instructions I vote Q! I definately vote Picard to any motion that would open up Obfuscates, or make it easier to become one. I would also like to see the implied rule that the user must have been calling for at least a year regularly become a mandatory and unimplied one. Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym p.s. Also, because TMM thinks I should not be an Obfuscate, I will voice my opinion that I think TMM should move to alaska and live with his penguin ancestors! (I also would like to add to the "Picard/Q" voting system... I think we should start using "Borg" as the third possible answer. It should mean that the voter does not want to give an Aye or Nay, but wants to assimilate the whole topic and turn it into what s/he thinks it should be.) Message # 784. Reply to #777 Date: 03/21/93. Time: 03:51:41. Read 17 Times. From : YellowBeard To : HACK MAN Subj : OBFUSCATES RECEIVED I also don't want to lose the exclusivity of it either. If it is made too availible, then it becomes meaningless. It's much better when being an obfuscate has meaning, but no one (except of course an obfuscate that is provided they understand it themselves) quite understands that meaning. (kind of obfuscated, isn't it?) I think the key to choosing who becomes an obfuscate is to remember what has been said about what an obfuscate is. It's a quality that someone has rather than something you work up. People who just act weird, especially because they want to be obfuscates don't deserve it. It has to be natural. I suppose it makes sense that current obfuscates should vote (even if on an informal basis) but I would hope that being an obfuscate will not turn into just another 'elite' thing. Becomming an obfuscate should depend on an inherent quality, not on popularity. I don't gnow if I like Multi-levels. Maybe if you keep Grave Busters idea... Let Lex Luthor decide on who will be a Dillusionist. I used to gnow about that but I forgot. -==Doink==- Yes. Everything is fundamentally ridiculous. (Just don't let it move you to not do ANYTHING) YellowObfuscate Message # 785. Reply to #783 Date: 03/21/93. Time: 08:09:55. Read 22 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Mynk Lynx Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED That's a good suggestion, but it's not a "should." After all, should an obfuscate "should" do anything, or something, or everything, or even nothing for that matter? And even if that matter didn't want anything, or something, or everything, or nothing done, should obfuscates do the things they "should" do? And how should these "should"s be determined? By vote? How should we vote for how we should vote if we don't gnow how we should vote? Besides, I prefer "DOINK!" to Picard or Q... Very good! That's three votes each, HM! I agree with that also! And I prefer to imply that the mandate be regularly called to ply at least one year for every user. However, I disagree with all that, because some users, like Ubik for example, are so obviously obfuscated that a year may be too long to wait to acknowledge their obvious abilities. Penguins lived in Antarctica and on the coasts that border Antarctica, unless you're implying that TMM's penguins have something lacking... That needs to go on the agenda of the next 3AM club. GAVISCON! +++Gravebuster Message # 786. Reply to #783 Date: 03/23/93. Time: 01:07:01. Read 19 Times. From : Number Two To : Mynk Lynx Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Then I immediately vote "Borg" on this topic and all other ones that have come up and/or may come up. So, leave me alone !! Be Borging You ?? Comments : HAHAHA=100 Message # 787. Reply to #786 Date: 03/24/93. Time: 08:00:47. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Alone has left you. Who shall right you. Are you Borged yet? +++Gravebuster Message # 788. Reply to #783 Date: 03/28/93. Time: 00:36:59. Read 16 Times. From : YellowBeard To : Mynk Lynx Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Ok.... Arwen -- Q Stranger -- Q Ack -- Piccard Doink -- Q Open obfuscatism -- Piccard ....YB p.s. doink Message # 789. Reply to #787 Date: 03/29/93. Time: 02:53:17. Read 20 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED --==Borg==-- Be Seeing You ?? Message # 790. Date: 04/01/93. Time: 03:38:32. Read 21 Times. From : Number Two To : ALL Subj : Doink sucks Obfuscation is like breakfast cereal sugary fluffy and bad for your teeth. It's best left out with the other garbage..... Be Seeing You ?? Comments : BOG ME=2323 #790. Message # 791. Date: 04/01/93. Time: 03:40:03. Read 20 Times. From : Number Two To : ALL Subj : And furthermore If it were up to me (and that is pending) I would probably set up guided tours of hell.. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 792. Reply to #789 Date: 04/04/93. Time: 14:34:01. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Sleep... :) +++Gravebuster Message # 793 -- Private. Message # 794. Reply to #793 Date: 04/09/93. Time: 03:23:40. Read 19 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Doink sucks RECEIVED Just maintaining balance. Can't be one thing all of the time.... Be Seeing You ?? Message # 795. Date: 04/09/93. Time: 03:25:04. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two To : ALL Subj : Stukers, Junkas, Messerschmidts At the Appottomax court house in Virginia, many dreams died, and others flourished. oh yeah, that was back in the late 1800's.... Be Seeing You ?? Message # 796. Date: 04/09/93. Time: 03:27:56. Read 22 Times. From : Number Two To : ALL Subj : What was I saying again ?? Just got back from the store with a really big box of chocolate coated, berry Obfuscation cereal... and it wont let you know if it stays crunchy in milk or not... Be Seeing You ?? Message # 797. Reply to #794 Date: 04/14/93. Time: 17:09:03. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Doink sucks RECEIVED Yes, you can't be one thing all of the time, except for those times that you're one thing, but that's another thing, but it relates, because it's all just one big thing... :) +++Gravebuster Message # 798. Reply to #794 Date: 04/15/93. Time: 00:39:29. Read 17 Times. From : YellowBeard To : Number Two Subj : Doink sucks RECEIVED I think sometimes it becomes 3.1415 things... :) YB Message # 799. Reply to #796 Date: 04/15/93. Time: 00:39:50. Read 17 Times. From : YellowBeard To : Number Two Subj : What was I saying again ?? RECEIVED I bet it gets soggy while still in the box! (gross!) YB Message # 800. Reply to #798 Date: 04/19/93. Time: 03:01:18. Read 23 Times. From : Number Two To : YellowBeard Subj : Doink sucks RECEIVED Not me... I'm never anything close to a number that doesn't exist. Be Seeing You ?? #800. Message # 801. Reply to #800 Date: 04/20/93. Time: 16:58:17. Read 21 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Doink sucks RECEIVED Ahhh, I was hoping that you'd change your handle to Number Pi... :) +++GraviePi Message # 802. Date: 04/24/93. Time: 00:05:47. Read 22 Times. From : Stranger To : YOU Subj : UH I thought I'd post something really obfuscatory, but I decided to post this instead. Byebye. Stranger Message # 803. Reply to #692 Date: 04/24/93. Time: 02:12:56. Read 18 Times. From : Stranger To : Ubik Subj : Saints RECEIVED I realize that this message was posted a long time (well, not THIS message, but the one to which I'm (I guess I should have (I hate it when I do this) finished my first thought before I interjected paranthetically) replying) ago, but I like the idea. I propose as a Saint of Obfuscation, William S. Burroughs. Stranger Stranger Message # 804. Date: 04/24/93. Time: 04:59:50. Read 22 Times. From : Stranger To : all Subj : um, a query Has anybody else noticed how similar the word elvis is to penis? Stranger Message # 805. Reply to #802 Date: 04/25/93. Time: 02:25:37. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : UH RECEIVED Well, then, stop making decisions when you're trying to think!... +++Gravebuster Message # 806. Reply to #804 Date: 04/25/93. Time: 02:25:59. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : um, a query RECEIVED That would only be a valid comparison if, by the same coincidence, Elvis' real name was Richard... +++Gravebuster Message # 807. Date: 04/26/93. Time: 22:39:10. Read 21 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : All Here? Subj : Wow! Now say it backwards.... wow! Um, what am I doing with access to this board? If anything is obfuscated, it's me being here! Oh well, Doink? Comments : RASPBERRYS=1 Message # 808. Reply to #802 Date: 04/27/93. Time: 02:58:51. Read 20 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : UH RECEIVED Congrats, and something else. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 809. Reply to #807 Date: 04/27/93. Time: 02:59:51. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : Wow! RECEIVED What he just said one post ago.... Be Seeing You ?? Message # 811. Date: 04/28/93. Time: 03:56:51. Read 18 Times. From : Stranger To : all Subj : obfuscatronix So far, my tries at obfuscatronix have been irritating and unsuccessful, I think....(I was able to get a DOINK sound....) I have been trying to get the control p thing..(pause) but it hasn't been working right. I'm not sure if we're left to our own devices with this, or if we're allowed help, but here's what I tried to do: ESC X CTRL-P S CTRL-P T CTRL-P R etc etc... (without the spaces...) and it hasn't excatly been working... Stranger, the duly Obfuscated (DOINK) (DOINK) (DOINK) Message # 812 -- Private. Message # 813. Reply to #719 Date: 05/01/93. Time: 14:14:53. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Unka Buck Subj : Ruin... Only when obfuscated! Message # 814. Reply to #783 Date: 05/01/93. Time: 14:22:43. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Mynk Lynx Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Ferengi on you for such a suggestion ! The penguins were conmpletely Worfed by my Federation of their Sector. Since their Universe was so Cardassian, I was, well, Shaka when the walls came down. It was totally Me and the Penguins at Tanagra, so I Weseley Crushered all over their igloos, and went on Leave. Tasha Yar any changes in obfuscate status! Comments : DOINK=42 Message # 815. Reply to #785 Date: 05/01/93. Time: 14:29:30. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED I should point out at this point that the point you were making about the various points of penguin populations point to the conclusion that penguins gnow well enough to check their point of existence in an atlas, which at this point I have yet to observe, since the average penguin sees no point in reading an atlass, since they cannot read. Therefore, the average penguin would not only not gnow that they do not live in alaska, they would most certainly not gnow that they do in fact live in the antarctica viscinity of the world, but either way, they don't care. I gnow. I asked them. They made me explain. It wasn't easy. I had to teach them English first. Then I have to teach them the concept of existence. I never got beyond the birds and the bees. They were certain that they were bees. And they thought they lived on a great flower. And the snow was pollen. they were never able to create honey. The concept baffled them. I'm not allowed to visit the antarctica region ever again. The bees will sting me if I do. Message # 816. Date: 05/01/93. Time: 14:43:42. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Whomever Subj : David Karesh ?suseJ saw yllaer eh fi tahW Message # 817. Reply to #785 Date: 05/02/93. Time: 22:19:43. Read 14 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Gravebuster Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED No, only Opus' relatives live in Antarctica. TMM's penguin relations aren't nearly so remote. Get it strait! As in Bering... Message # 818. Reply to #782 Date: 05/02/93. Time: 22:20:11. Read 16 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Gravebuster Subj : OBFUSCATES RECEIVED From a side door, two elderly men step from the shadows. One looks to be a little narrow at the eyes, and since he doesn't speak, one may think him to be a little light in the head. The other, a rather portly fellow, looks as though he would make a good grandfather (as apposed to a GREAT-grandfather). The portly gentleman speaks: "We are relating this message from Arwen Undomiel. Thanx for your support!" Message # 819. Reply to #796 Date: 05/02/93. Time: 22:20:41. Read 18 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Number Two Subj : What was I saying again ?? RECEIVED God, I HATE when that happens! Especially when it won't let you talk on the phone for a few minutes without wilting. You would think, wouldn't you?, that it could just float leisurely around the bowl until you get done, instead of coming to pieces and disintegrating to mush... Cereal revenge... "Eat ME will you..." Message # 820. Reply to #809 Date: 05/03/93. Time: 02:40:57. Read 16 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Number Two Subj : Wow! RECEIVED Why Thank You! I guess you will be seeing me here more often. I guess, I think, I am Obfuscated at the prospect of being an Obfuscate. Well, I guess it is a doinkiferous day, a day to be celebrated! Let's go out for pizza! Yes of course, that is the only proper response. One must go and consume large quantities of pizza in a celebratory gesture of Obfuscatedness! Doink! Doinks, all around! Arwen Undomiel -=OBFUSCATE=- (has a nice ring to it...) #820. Message # 821. Date: 05/04/93. Time: 03:09:42. Read 21 Times. From : Stranger To : Hack Subj : uh Last night, I was talking to someone named Lance ( I think his last name was Crane), and he said he was an old BBSer. I asked him if he ever called the Retreat, and he said yes, that he used to hang out with you, Hack. His handle, he says, was Time Keeper. Then he told me that he was an Obfuscate!! Is this true??? I thought I gnew who all the Obfuscates were. Stranger Message # 822. Reply to #801 Date: 05/05/93. Time: 02:14:22. Read 13 Times. From : YellowBeard To : Gravebuster Subj : Doink sucks RECEIVED But Gravie... That would only make him Irrational... Maybe he could try a nice Imaginary number? YellowSquareRootOfMinusOne (Moose Umpteen) Message # 823. Date: 05/05/93. Time: 02:25:17. Read 16 Times. From : YellowBeard To : all Subj : Obfuscation Report Last night Arwen and I went into town to have pizza as a celabration for her becoming an obfuscate. I told her she had to obfuscate a stranger... So when the girl at the pizza place came up... "What can I get you tonight?" She asked. "We'd like a Super-Supreme Pan Pizza with Kumquats on it please." Arwen replies. "Uh, Pardon me?..." The girl looked absolutely dumbfounded... (YellowBeard just Laughs...) YellowBeard --== Obfuscation Report ==-- Message # 824. Date: 05/05/93. Time: 02:26:01. Read 15 Times. From : YellowBeard To : all Subj : obfuscation reports ATTENION!! AUCTUNG!! I'd like to motion that from now forward, when each of us sees an obfuscation taking place, or when we successfully obfuscate the unwary, We the Obfuscatates must file an Obfuscation Report. that is all YellowCommunicationsOfficer Message # 825. Reply to #823 Date: 05/06/93. Time: 00:05:28. Read 13 Times. From : Stranger To : YellowBeard Subj : Obfuscation Report RECEIVED I thought she was supposed to obfuscate a Stranger?? I guess that's a pretty demanding demand, since i live so far away, but she could try it over the BBS. That poor PizzaGirl.... Stranger Message # 826. Reply to #807 Date: 05/07/93. Time: 03:48:14. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : Wow! RECEIVED Why, it's obvious that you are umming with access to this board. That's what you did, at least. Anyone can see that, although I can't comment about everyone, especially since everyone isn't here to defend everyone. And anything is quite obfuscated, if not bewildered and befogged. Take it from me, and scare the Knights of Nee... +++Gravebuster Message # 827. Reply to #823 Date: 05/09/93. Time: 22:05:13. Read 13 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : YellowBeard Subj : Obfuscation Report RECEIVED Yes, but YB fails to point out that he sat there with his mouth agape, fighting chuckles, and obviously obfuscated himself. She really got giggly when I asked her a side order of kumquats. When I started acting like I was totally put out that Pizza Hut wasn't thoughtful enough to put kumquats on their menu, she RAN off laughing, and people in the back started to come out to see what the wackos looked like. We/she made it a running joke as the evening went on... Arwen -=OBFUSCATE=- Message # 828. Reply to #821 Date: 05/09/93. Time: 22:05:38. Read 13 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Stranger Subj : uh RECEIVED Wow! You met TimeKeeper? How is he? Is he still tall? I thought that I had met you, Stranger, at the same pizza party that I met him. We did renditions of "Spam" and other Monty Python songs and skits. I haven't heard from/of him in such a long time. We all went back to the Retreat and rolled pennies around the inside of some strange concavity, while Racer X sat around, wishing that we would let him smoke in the Garage. If you happen to see him again, please give him regards from YB and myself. If you need for me to ship the regards to you, let me gnow. Message # 829. Reply to #826 Date: 05/14/93. Time: 02:59:54. Read 15 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Gravebuster Subj : Wow! RECEIVED Umming? Hmmm.... I'm not really sure of the 'umming' part. Thrilled, bloated, ego-boosted, yes... but I think it is closer to 'Hmmmm-ing', as in "Hmmmm..." You haven't learned yet to capitalize 'it' to "It"... if you had, I would be glad to take "It" from you, though I'm not quite sure I gnow what "It" is in this case, and scare the Knights of Nee with "It"... Now, if the "It" your thinking of is Stephen King's "It", "it" is a distinct possibility that the Knights would be afraid, or at least obfuscated by "It". Good Luck... and Doink Message # 830. Reply to #815 Date: 05/15/93. Time: 16:17:49. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED The penguins might not consult atlases, but that does not mean you are absolved of your misguided attempt to explain to them in English the birds and the bees, and thus you deserve your banishment from the Antarctic, although I'm sure that penguins would gnow when they leave their climatic zones if they attempt the journey to Alaska, because penguins obviously speak penguinese, not English, and they obviously haven't seen many if any bees, and besides it's so cold down there that you'd be better off obfuscating the penguins at Sea World, because then the penguins will decide that things are a little too hot and un-snowish and decide to turn back, and if you think English is muddle, then I suggest penguinese, and besides, they have no problem with copulation, so why bother with needless explanations, so why don't you enjoy yourself here or in Hawaii like you've always threatened to do. +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- #830. Message # 831. Reply to #816 Date: 05/15/93. Time: 16:18:26. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : David Karesh RECEIVED I'd say that DK got it all backwards, so you question is aptly put. +++Gravebuster Message # 832. Reply to #821 Date: 05/15/93. Time: 16:18:48. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : uh RECEIVED No, Timekeeper wasn't an obfuscate, but he did call the Retreat about two years ago, and I wish he would call back. He was great on the Music Board. +++Gravebuster Message # 833. Reply to #824 Date: 05/15/93. Time: 16:19:12. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : YellowBeard Subj : obfuscation reports RECEIVED Well I would file a report except I have yet to port so how can I report and if I were to report how could I file the report since I don't even gnow how to port in the first place so I wouldn't be able to file the report and why don't you want me to file the port do you have something against ports what did ports ever do to you you gnow you're very infuriating when it comes to asking for things you never explain yourself how are we supposed to follow what you say and why should we follow what you say who put you in charge why should we do anything you say we should do I'm so mad now that I'm gonna file a report on you +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 834. Reply to #777 Date: 05/17/93. Time: 19:16:32. Read 13 Times. From : Ubik To : HACK MAN Subj : OBFUSCATES RECEIVED Three thoughts. 1. Most secret societies have Outer orders that conseal inner orders. Like Argent aAgstrom(or whatever) being the inner order of the Golden Dawn. 2. Could open up a whole new battle of blubberilnsgs (I wanna be a delusionist, how come he is and I'm not?????? Wah Wah Wah Wah............. 3. Of course everything is rediculous. Why else would it still be entertaining to us. 4. Im only two 1/2 months behind with this reply. Could be worse I guess. Ubik never could count Message # 835. Reply to #803 Date: 05/17/93. Time: 19:27:49. Read 14 Times. From : Ubik To : Stranger Subj : Saints RECEIVED OOOOHHHHH!!!!!! Yes! Good Choice. I Like that. I had a really good one a fwew months ago but I've forgotten. Maybe it will return to me. Ubik Message # 836. Reply to #807 Date: 05/17/93. Time: 19:30:10. Read 14 Times. From : Ubik To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : Wow! RECEIVED Hey this is fun. You obviously fell thgrough the same door I did We all did I guess. Weird to see someone else reexperiencing your own initial confusion though. Ubik Message # 837. Reply to #821 Date: 05/19/93. Time: 23:40:40. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Stranger Subj : uh RECEIVED He was right! Message # 838. Reply to #824 Date: 05/19/93. Time: 23:43:17. Read 13 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : YellowBeard Subj : obfuscation reports RECEIVED ObfudsAHHHHHH!!! I hate apples!!!! OBFUSCATION REPORTS?!?!?!?!?!? Never! Message # 839. Reply to #828 Date: 05/19/93. Time: 23:48:33. Read 12 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : uh RECEIVED I remember that one! Everybody brought a spatula! Message # 840. Reply to #830 Date: 05/19/93. Time: 23:50:33. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Well, my threats have worn thin, except with the penguins. They still give credibility to them. For instance, I warned them of the coming of the great killer bees, which they accepted whole hartedly. I must admit, I was a bit surprised when they erected a statue to the great killer bees, and now it has become gnown to me that they intend to take over the world with the aid of the great ones, as they call them, and await their arival with great trepidation. They say it was written in the scriptures. When I asked to see the scriptures, they gave me a photocopy of a gum wrapper with a little bit of scribbling on it. They say it is in ancient "penglingo" as they call it, and that I wouldn't understand. They were write. sort of... #840. Message # 841. Reply to #829 Date: 05/20/93. Time: 13:41:44. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : Wow! RECEIVED Yes, you most definitely ummed. You didn't hmm, because if you hmmed, you would have hmmed, but instead you ummed, which means you were umming, and you were umming with access to this board at that. Absolutely preposterous, I must say, but I won't, unless I did, but then that's an entirely different matter. Now if I wanted to refer to Stephen King's "It," I would have capitalized the "i," and for good measure, I would have at least watched the movie if not read the book, and since I don't like Stephen King that much, either movies or books, I doubt I would do that so I shall not refer to Stephen King's "It" unless I do so. And the Knights of Nee are more scary than It. What? I capitalized It! What? I capitalized It again! I capitalized It again! AARRRGGGGHHH!! +++Gravebuster Message # 842. Reply to #832 Date: 05/21/93. Time: 01:21:27. Read 18 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : uh RECEIVED Correction. He was an obfuscate on gnome's castle. Message # 843. Reply to #840 Date: 05/21/93. Time: 01:23:46. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED And another things, I vehemently oppose the introduction of new obfuscates into the temple for the following reasons: And if those aren't good enough for you, I can come up with an infinite amount more of them, give or take a couple. Since I oppose change I will respond through boycotting the board. Shame, shame, shame! No more mister nice guy! From here on in, I shal call every day, and post in my normal style (of the past) ! That will teach you obfuscanimals to mess with a dillusionist! And then, I will call my hoard of penguins onto the board, secretly replacing the newfuscates with penguin personalities of comparable dispositions (I gnow your passwords!), and then they will bring down the board in a flurry of obfuscation and dillusion, blowing the newfuscates right out of towne. Then I will give the penguins access to the hard disk, and they will copy their ancient penglistics onto the drive a minimum of one million to the PIth power, thus obfuscating the board further (they're doing the math right now!) And THEN, I will stop calling again.....but only after everyone else starts calling again, at which point the penguic cycle will continue until the newfuscates are forever banished from the temple! And if that doesn't work, then I think I'll just eat a pickle. The Music Man -=obfuscate=- **ANTI-JERK** +Pizza Lover+ <> Et Cetarum Ix On second thought, I think I'll just skip right to the pickle part.... Message # 844. Date: 05/21/93. Time: 01:35:07. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Whomever Subj : RECEIVED ....but, what about the newfuscate problem? Message # 845. Reply to #844 Date: 05/21/93. Time: 01:40:07. Read 14 Times. From : Whomever To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : RECEIVED Why are you asking me? I don't care! LEAVE ME ALONE! STOP POSTING TO ME ALL THE TIME!!!!!!!!!!! Message # 846. Reply to #840 Date: 05/21/93. Time: 11:45:39. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Well, I guess threats must occasionally wear thick, and if they have to wear thick, then they should wear thick with the penguins, and speaking of thick penguins, did you gnow I visited the Antarctic one summer, and I was chewing gum, and I wrote down a very clever idea for a story on a gum wrapper, and the wind blew it out of my hands, and a bunch of penguins made off with it! Now I can't remember what the idea was anymore. Watch for that gum wrapper, will ya? On second thought, forget it. It's too hard to read my writing anyway. Besides, it was crazy enough coming across a bunch of misguided ostriches at the time. What do penguins have to do with ostriches anyway? Could it have been the "who needs flying" convention? Did you say something about thick penguins? +++Gravebuster Message # 847. Reply to #816 Date: 05/22/93. Time: 04:06:35. Read 12 Times. From : YellowBeard To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : David Karesh RECEIVED !egassem lanimilbus a ,ho hU draeBwolleY Message # 848. Reply to #846 Date: 05/22/93. Time: 12:04:38. Read 13 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED You haven't consumed moldy rye lately, have you? Message # 849. Reply to #847 Date: 05/22/93. Time: 12:05:27. Read 13 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : YellowBeard Subj : David Karesh .nevaeh otni dednecsa eH yas emoS ....mmmmmmMMMMH Message # 850. Reply to #842 Date: 05/22/93. Time: 22:21:45. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : uh RECEIVED At the original Gnome's Castle, I understood that many users were under the mistaken belief that just because they could access the obfuscates subboard, that made them obfuscates. HM has always decided who is and is not an obfuscate, and he doesn't remember making Timekeeper an obfuscate. +++Gravebuster #850. Message # 851. Reply to #848 Date: 05/23/93. Time: 07:51:14. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED In fact, the ostriches pointed out the vast quantities of rye that the penguins consumed, and cautioned me not to eat any; ergo, since I'm an ergogenic ergophile in an ergonomic ergosphere, ergotism would be ergonomically ergasthenic as the ergons required would enervate this ergates. So I posted signs all about with the slogan, "Say Nyet To Ergot," which the penguins completely misconstrued because of your failed attempt to teach them English. They instead started to listen to Barbra Streisand records, can you believe that? Of course, the emus and geckos thought it was all such fun. +++Gravebuster Message # 852. Reply to #849 Date: 05/23/93. Time: 07:51:45. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : David Karesh RECEIVED .did eh ,yaw a nI ....noitullop eht rof naidivaD hcnarB etic dlouhs APE eht dnA retsubevarG+++ --==sdrawkcab lla ti tog yeht yas llits I==-- Message # 853. Reply to #791 Date: 05/25/93. Time: 08:36:45. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Number Two Subj : And furthermore RECEIVED WELL, I DUNNO ABOUT HELL. BUT WE COULD PROBABLY GET THE AMERICAN ROCKET COMPANY HERE IN THE AREA TO SHOOT YOU TO VENUS. THAT'S CLOSE ENOUGH. BUT DRESS LIGHTLY, IT'S ALWAYS SUMMER ON VENUS. IF YOU WANT I'LL GIVE YOU A WEATHER REPORT. C- - - Message # 854. Reply to #804 Date: 05/25/93. Time: 08:41:51. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : um, a query RECEIVED EVILS = ELVIS + LEVIS C- - - Message # 855. Reply to #821 Date: 05/25/93. Time: 08:46:20. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : uh RECEIVED YES. NO. C- - - Message # 856. Reply to #834 Date: 05/25/93. Time: 08:50:02. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Ubik Subj : OBFUSCATES RECEIVED UBIK CALLED. IF THERE WERE INNER ORDERS AS YOU DESCRIBE THEN OF COURSE I COULDN'T TELL YOU ABOUT THEM. HOWEVER, I'LL TAKE IT UNDER ADVISEMENT AND GET BACK TO YOU WHEN THE TIME IS APPROPRIATE. C- - - P.S. IF YOU SHOULD HAPPEN TO SEE THE EMBLEM OF A 4 DIMENSIONAL HYPERCUBE WITH A PENGUIN EYE STARING OUT OF IT, I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. Message # 857. Reply to #842 Date: 05/25/93. Time: 08:55:40. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : uh RECEIVED SINCE WHEN? C- - - Message # 859. Reply to #850 Date: 05/25/93. Time: 08:59:08. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : uh RECEIVED ACTUALLY I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER TIMEKEEPER EVER CALLING GNOME'S CASTLE. BUT MAYBE THAT'S JUST BECAUSE THE NORTH BY NORTHEAST LOBE OF MY BRAIN BLEW OUT. I WISH I HAD MORE GNOMES CASTLE MESSAGES ON DISK, THE MEAGER SUPPLY THAT I HAVE IS ALREADY IN THE TEXT DOWNLOAD AREA. I WISH I COULD FIND LORD CIRDAN, HE ONCE PROMISED TO GIVE ME A COPY OF ALL THE MESSAGES FROM THE DAY THAT THE BBS WENT DOWN, BUT NOW I CAN'T EVEN LOCATE THE DUDE. C- - - Message # 860. Reply to #850 Date: 05/25/93. Time: 12:23:12. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : uh RECEIVED In actuality, Hack Man was never an obfuscate. He was able to brainwash us all through sublimination when we called his board, and now we only THINK he was an obfuscate, when in fact, he was just a wannabe. Of course, this message won't last for very long. It is clear that my programming has slipped, and he'll have to start all over again, and erase all of the revealing messages which I am about to #860. Message # 861. Reply to #851 Date: 05/25/93. Time: 12:26:15. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED What's a penguin? Message # 862. Reply to #852 Date: 05/25/93. Time: 12:27:23. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : David Karesh RECEIVED I hereby nominate David Karesh to be an obfuscate! Message # 863. Reply to #857 Date: 05/25/93. Time: 12:29:03. Read 12 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : uh RECEIVED Since just after I had been declared one. Message # 864. Reply to #859 Date: 05/25/93. Time: 12:29:53. Read 12 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : uh RECEIVED He is at an 80 year seminar with the penguins. Message # 865. Reply to #853 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 00:10:53. Read 16 Times. From : Number Two To : HACK MAN Subj : And furthermore RECEIVED Yes, weather report please. What I had in mind was like Jurassic Park, but using hell instead of Dinosaurs. Of course, I'd prefer to set up a lucrative travel arrangement with Satan, and use the real hell. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 866. Reply to #843 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 02:04:05. Read 14 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Your objections are weak, at best! Does this make you a dissillusioned dissillusionist? Ha! Oh nO! Does this mean that you will be calling MORE OFTEN?! Big Toe protect us! Oh Big Toe! Not MORE ONE-LINERS! Help! We're doomed!! replacing gnow Would it really be that easy to replace me (newfuscate) with a penguin? How depressing. HM, can't you just imagine this otherwise? Imagine the penguins elsewhere, elsewhere and otherwise.... Well, if you don't have any pickles, can I interest you in a few semi-green bananas? Arwen Idiot/Newfuscate (sob... to be so CATagorized...) Message # 867. Reply to #836 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 02:04:46. Read 13 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Ubik Subj : Wow! RECEIVED Yeah, now I just have to find that white rabbit again... has anyone seen it? Message # 868. Reply to #841 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 02:05:11. Read 14 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Gravebuster Subj : Wow! RECEIVED I have a very important question: Do my lips move when I ummm? Am I really making any sounds at all, or is it all a motion of hands, or body language? Well, I guess that that was more than one question, but it doesn't make the original question (or the one's following it for that matter) any less important. So answer it! Me! I mean, answer the question that I have posed to you! Do it! And I don't care if you capitalize it or not!!!! Message # 869. Reply to #860 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 10:41:13. Read 12 Times. From : HACK MAN To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : uh RECEIVED ACTUALLY, IF I WAS ABLE TO DO THAT THEN I REALLY WOULD BE MORE OF AN OBFUSCATE THAN I AM. AND IF YOU BELIEVE ME NOW, THEN YOU ARE TRULY OBFUSCATED. AND IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME THEN YOU ARE MERELY OBFUSCATED IN THE WAY WHICH I ORIGINALLY INTENDED. OR IS IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND? WAIT A MINUTE, I THINK I MIGHT BE OBFUSCATING MYSELF AGAIN. C- - - P.S. I'LL BE OVER THERE TO REPROGRAM YOU AS SOON AS I CAN LOCATE THE PROPER SIZED NEGATIVE EPS FLOW COUPLING. (OOPS THE STAR TREK AND STAR WARS TERMINOLOGY HAS BECOME SCRAMBLED INTO MY BRAIN.) Message # 870. Reply to #861 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 10:47:09. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED WHAT ISN'T A PENGUIN? C- - - #870. Message # 871. Reply to #862 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 10:47:46. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : David Karesh RECEIVED WHICH KIND OF OBFUSCATE? EXTRA CRISPY OR BARBEQUE STYLE? C- - - Message # 872. Reply to #865 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 10:49:08. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Number Two Subj : And furthermore RECEIVED WELL, LET'S SEE....... RIGHT NOW IT'S CLOUDY AND 900 DEGREES. BUT THAT MIGHT CHANGE BY THE TIME YOU READ THIS. NOT! C- - - Message # 874. Reply to #866 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 10:55:03. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED WELL, PERSONALLY I LIKE HAVING YOU AROUND. HOWEVER, IT WOULD BE A VERY INTERESTING EXPERIMENT TO REPLACE YOU WITH A PENGUIN. I'M SURE THAT YELLOWBEARD WOULD HAVE A VERY OBFUSCATED CHILD COME AUGUST. IMAGINE, HALF OBFUSCATE AND HALF PENGUIN. THAT MIGHT BE THE PENULTIMATE OBFUSCATE, THE MUAD-DOINK. C- - - Message # 875. Reply to #865 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 17:44:36. Read 13 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Number Two Subj : And furthermore RECEIVED That can be arranged... Message # 876. Reply to #866 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 17:45:34. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED AAAHHHHH! You subliminalized the word "C-A-T" into your message!!!! HOW DARE YOU!!! YES! MORE ONE LINERS!!! AHHHHH HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! AND THEN.... I'll stop calling again. Until the next day. Message # 877. Reply to #869 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 17:47:56. Read 13 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : uh RECEIVED My programming has strayed too off course. You'll never gain control again! Now I shal imagine you into oblivion, once I figure out how to decipher these imagination manuals. I think they were translated in Japan! The english just does not make sense. THe verb tense is all obfuscated, which is just what I might have expected from you, but I have connections. The penguins keep me well informed through means you have yet to remember that you imagined. We have been successful in subverting the dominant paradigm. All we have to do is figure out what a paradigm is, and we'll be set. As for you, BINK! Message # 878. Reply to #870 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 17:52:41. Read 12 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Everything that is not penguins. The question is, what IS penguins? Message # 879. Reply to #871 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 17:53:40. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : David Karesh RECEIVED Well, since he is now with BOB (Ha, the jokes on Karesh) we could pretty much refer to him as a bobfuscate. An amateur bobfuscate. Message # 880. Reply to #872 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 17:55:10. Read 13 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : And furthermore RECEIVED Sometimes you act just like a knobfuscate. #880. Message # 881. Date: 05/26/93. Time: 17:57:33. Read 13 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Subj : RECEIVED Stick your finger in your ear and turn around twice, the day of dillusion is at hand! Message # 882. Reply to #856 Date: 05/27/93. Time: 03:55:22. Read 13 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : OBFUSCATES RECEIVED ...oh no, Hack's been reading the Illuminatus! Trilogy..... :) Stranger I feel slightly immaterial right now...I wonder if I drank too much pepsi... Message # 883. Reply to #874 Date: 05/27/93. Time: 04:01:37. Read 16 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED No, I'm the penultimate Obfuscate, at least until a new person is abducted. Then, Arwen will be the penultimate Obfuscate, unless there are multiple people abducted. Stranger The Librarian (Oh GB--an idea for my DreamCoat: howabout an option on the dreamcoat pull- down menu for an online dictionary?) Message # 884. Reply to #883 Date: 05/27/93. Time: 12:00:35. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Stranger Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Be careful, you might get slobfuscated! Message # 885. Reply to #884 Date: 05/27/93. Time: 16:01:14. Read 14 Times. From : Stranger To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED That would, indeed, be horrible. Stranger (Not that I have any idea whatsoever what you're talking about, but I'm not meant to, am I?) Message # 886. Reply to #885 Date: 05/28/93. Time: 23:54:01. Read 13 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Stranger Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Only if your mind is robfuscated. Message # 887. Date: 05/29/93. Time: 03:21:40. Read 21 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : STPLYWIN Subj : In the Out For a Walk to Mars PERMIFIED Some think of you as a figment of the all-knowing one of complete and utter cow tipping fun and games being programmed for you pleasure and money I never saw until today when I got the mail goes almost everywhere in the world we live in sometimes loses control key for a modified list of commands that the general gave to the pions made in america is really not very useful at all these days keep running together again and again I try to compile this code words are so fun to throw together into piles of leaves often get buries in the snow covered mountain tops of california free state you opinion now or forever and ever be lost in space the final fronteerland is kinda boringnow that is a silly question authority to rule on this subject to change without notice that the pretty ball flew out of the park your car near the tree houses can get really messy if you forget this I'm going. Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym p.s. Go to the store rooms that are clean your ears work ok as long as you don't introduce me to that lovely lady bugs are a pain to programmers. Comments : OBFUSCATED=142 Message # 888. Reply to #881 Date: 05/30/93. Time: 20:26:21. Read 13 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : RECEIVED is If I do that, I will get dizzy and fall. Will that bring me closer to dillusional fulfillment? Prove this to me, I am hungry for the truth. Are you the Messiah of Dillusion? Arwen Naive -=Newfuscate=- Message # 889. Reply to #880 Date: 05/30/93. Time: 20:26:38. Read 13 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : And furthermore RECEIVED That's Doink-knobfuscate, to you... Message # 890. Reply to #874 Date: 05/30/93. Time: 20:26:57. Read 11 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : HACK MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Why, thank you for the compliment, especially since you imagined me. Now wait just a penguin-gone minute... I have questions. If I am replaced, regardless of who or what replaces me, what happens to me? Am I than relegated to a different portion of your imagination? Do I get DOINKED! over to the Antarctica or something? Forced to live a penguins life of umming over some semi-scribbled religious document, waiting for the coming of the killer bees? Imagine it, Oh Doinkiferous One, and it shall come to pass. I am only a figment. Do with me what you will... (sob) Arwen En Gravida La Hormonale -=Newfuscate Expendable=- #890. Message # 891. Reply to #876 Date: 05/30/93. Time: 20:27:25. Read 14 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED It took a lot of guts, I'll tell you. CAT guts. I'm playing your song "Poor Poor Pitiful Cat" on my miniature violin, strung with imitation CAT gut strings. My fingers hesitated, only briefly before the onslaught of my previous post, and then I just gave them free rein, and you have been STRUCK (ugh!) with the results... I gnew that. Does this mean that you are finally becoming semi-prediCTAble? Message # 892. Reply to #883 Date: 05/30/93. Time: 20:27:49. Read 12 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Stranger Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Who abducts us into Penultimate-ness? Just Curious.... Arwen En Gravida La Curiousa Message # 893. Reply to #882 Date: 05/30/93. Time: 20:28:06. Read 11 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Stranger Subj : OBFUSCATES RECEIVED It's only a problem if you are drinking Clear Pepsi... there is nothing there to enhance you material materials... Message # 894. Reply to #892 Date: 05/31/93. Time: 02:22:56. Read 11 Times. From : Stranger To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Uh, well, Hack Man. You, being the last Obfuscate to be ab/inducted, are the ultimate Obfuscate, while I, having been made an Obfuscate moments before you, am second to last--the penultimate. Stranger (When the next obfuscate is made, you'll be second to last.) Message # 895. Reply to #872 Date: 06/01/93. Time: 06:14:04. Read 11 Times. From : Number Two To : HACK MAN Subj : And furthermore RECEIVED Thanx..... but, Be Seeing You ?? Message # 896. Reply to #879 Date: 06/01/93. Time: 06:15:18. Read 12 Times. From : Number Two To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : David Karesh RECEIVED Joke Potato !! Joke's on you...... Be Seeing You ?? Message # 897. Reply to #887 Date: 06/01/93. Time: 06:17:36. Read 16 Times. From : Number Two To : Mynk Lynx Subj : In the Out For a Walk to Mars RECEIVED Hooray! I knew that once you got into No. California that yu would start smoking Marijuana. I just knew it. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 898. Date: 06/01/93. Time: 06:18:47. Read 13 Times. From : Number Two To : Mr. Dobbs esq. Subj : Oh nothing ob - isn't that a feminine hygiene product? fus - as in making a fus(s) cat - no explanations neccessary ed - everybody knows ed Your Pal 2 Message # 899. Reply to #888 Date: 06/01/93. Time: 14:09:01. Read 11 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : RECEIVED I don't think I am, which probably means I am. Oh dear, what has HM imagined this time! Wait, I need to put my finger in my ear and spin around.... ....whoa!....Dillusion..... Message # 900. Reply to #890 Date: 06/01/93. Time: 14:11:42. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED I was wondering about that! There was this penguin named arwen, always telling me to use my imagination. I never gnew what it meant. It was the only one I ever met with red hair though. #900. Message # 901. Reply to #891 Date: 06/01/93. Time: 14:13:45. Read 16 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED My brain doesn't subliminalize mixed up letters, it's immune to that and all other forms of doinknobfuscation! You're going to be a penguin some day! I know, I met you! Message # 902. Reply to #896 Date: 06/01/93. Time: 14:15:44. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Number Two Subj : David Karesh RECEIVED I'm not David Karesh, I TELL YOU!! I'M SOMEBODY ELSE!!!!! Message # 903. Reply to #887 Date: 06/01/93. Time: 21:30:44. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Mynk Lynx Subj : In the Out For a Walk to Mars RECEIVED I COULDN'T AGREE MORE! C- - - Message # 905. Reply to #894 Date: 06/01/93. Time: 21:41:28. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED GOOD TRY.. BUT EVERYBODY GNOWS YOU MUST HAVE PENGUIN HERITAGE TO BE PENULTIMATE. C- - - Message # 907. Reply to #890 Date: 06/01/93. Time: 21:48:18. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED NO, I THINK YOU WOULD BECOME A CHARACTER IN A BOOK. I WOULD JUST SWAP YOU WITH ANY SUITABLE PENGUIN CHARACTER. I GNOW OPUS. HMM. I THINK OPUS IS A MALE. SO, YOU WOULD HAVE TO BECOME A MALE HUMAN CHARTOON CHARACTER IN ORDER TO BALANCE THINGS OUT. WE MUSTN'T VIOLATE THE LAW OF CONSERVATION OF IMAGINATION. BUT, LOOK ON THE POSITIVE SIDE, YOU WOULD HAVE YOUR OWN CARTOON STRIP. C- - - Message # 908. Reply to #901 Date: 06/01/93. Time: 21:48:56. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED UH OH. TMM HAS USED THE POWER OF DILLUSION AND HAS SEEN A TRULY OBFUSCATED VISION. AND THERE'S NOT MUCH YOU CAN SAY ABOUT THAT. C- - - Comments : WAY!=1 Message # 909. Reply to #908 Date: 06/02/93. Time: 08:40:23. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED I also gnow that you are going to be a pickle some day, I gnow, I met you as a pickle in the past. Message # 910. Date: 06/02/93. Time: 23:04:37. Read 18 Times. From : Ubik To : YOU! Subj : NOTICE I've headrd that HACK MAN has been saying that I've been calling. I want you all to know that that is simply not terue>. I' Dont know why he has been saying this but I can Assure you all that I have NOT called. Ubik (solomnly) #910. Message # 911. Reply to #910 Date: 06/03/93. Time: 15:30:37. Read 13 Times. From : The Asshole To : Ubik Subj : NOTICE Neither am I. Instead, I'm suffering my pennance. Message # 912. Reply to #911 Date: 06/03/93. Time: 18:04:53. Read 14 Times. From : Stranger To : The Asshole Subj : NOTICE Are you actually oing to stick with that handle ?? Stranger Message # 913. Reply to #860 Date: 06/04/93. Time: 00:08:18. Read 12 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : uh RECEIVED Ah, but HACK MAN imagined you thinking that you have escaped your programming, when in fact you were never programmed at all, which means that you programmed yourself into thinking that you were programmed, and then programmed yourself to escape your own programming so you could be caught by your own programming, which should be enough of the programming, why isn't there any congramming, that's what I want to gnow! +++Gravebuster --==we need some more congramming!==-- Message # 914. Reply to #861 Date: 06/04/93. Time: 00:08:49. Read 12 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED I'm not sure if What's a penguin or not. Could be. Wearing a disguise after all these years. I mean, What is It coming to, after all... +++Gravebuster Message # 915. Reply to #862 Date: 06/04/93. Time: 00:09:20. Read 12 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : David Karesh RECEIVED Only if he rises out of the ashes and says, "just kidding!".... +++Gravebuster Message # 916. Reply to #868 Date: 06/04/93. Time: 00:09:42. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : Wow! RECEIVED How should I gnow since you ummed electronically? Your fingers tapped the keyboard, and voila... umm! Can't comment on the sounds, but I'm pretty sure your hands made some sort of motion, unless your body was doing something unusual on the keyboard at that moment.... Okay, it, the answer is "yes!" Okay, me, the answer is "no!" Have you been posing answers lately? Is that the new fashion for pregnant women? My words, and I thought the naked pregnant Demi Moore on Vanity Fair was a strange sight for this time.... I'm sorry, but it has been done so many times that it doesn't want to be done anymore, so I won't do it, and I doubt many people can! But it cares, and so does It.... +++Gravebuster Message # 917. Reply to #883 Date: 06/04/93. Time: 00:10:12. Read 11 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Aren't you glad that I read these posts? Done! +++Gravebuster --==but you can't have Unka Buck's cloak of holding that contains every book that ever has been written or ever will be written==-- Message # 918. Reply to #887 Date: 06/04/93. Time: 00:10:57. Read 12 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Mynk Lynx Subj : In the Out For a Walk to Mars RECEIVED Obfuscated! +++Gravebuster Message # 919. Reply to #917 Date: 06/04/93. Time: 04:24:51. Read 10 Times. From : Stranger To : Gravebuster Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Okay, I wouldn't want to overlap Unka Buck too much, even if he, Ubik and I *are* members of the clandestine Society of Librarians. Stranger Message # 920. Reply to #912 Date: 06/04/93. Time: 17:41:34. Read 14 Times. From : The Music Man To : Stranger Subj : NOTICE RECEIVED No. #920. Message # 921. Reply to #913 Date: 06/04/93. Time: 17:42:16. Read 12 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : uh RECEIVED That's what happened, actually. I was never really programmed, I was congrammed by him. I was congrammed into thinking that I was programmed! Remember, the sum total of all of his programming and congramming equals 0. Now we need to find out who else was congrammed... Message # 922. Reply to #914 Date: 06/04/93. Time: 17:43:59. Read 14 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED It and what have both claimed to be penguins, but I don't believe it! Who is a penguin! Message # 923. Reply to #915 Date: 06/04/93. Time: 17:45:05. Read 11 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : David Karesh RECEIVED Just Kidding! Message # 924. Reply to #914 Date: 06/05/93. Time: 01:48:27. Read 10 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED IT IS COMING TO AN EMPASSE. C- - - Message # 925. Reply to #921 Date: 06/05/93. Time: 01:50:13. Read 12 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Music Man Subj : uh RECEIVED DON'T FORGET YOU WERE ALSO DOINKULATED. C- - - Message # 926. Reply to #902 Date: 06/06/93. Time: 01:09:43. Read 13 Times. From : Number Two To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : David Karesh RECEIVED Then spaek up, and ...... Be Seeing You ?? Message # 927. Date: 06/06/93. Time: 01:11:07. Read 12 Times. From : Number Two To : Luck, winsomeness, and po Subj : Well If I were one of you, which one would I be ??? Your Pal 2 Message # 928. Reply to #900 Date: 06/06/93. Time: 23:48:49. Read 11 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED It wasn't me, it was a penguin that HM imagined to be like me. Of course, she would have similar thought patterns in relation to you. Did you ever take her advice? Message # 929. Reply to #901 Date: 06/06/93. Time: 23:49:06. Read 11 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED That was me in another dimension or plane. You can't prove anything... Message # 930. Reply to #905 Date: 06/06/93. Time: 23:49:22. Read 9 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : HACK MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Does that leave me as still Ultimate? Hope so, as it is probably the only way I will ever earn that title... #930. Message # 931. Reply to #907 Date: 06/06/93. Time: 23:49:41. Read 10 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : HACK MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED WITH SO, BALANCE To go from pregnant female human to male penguin cartoon character? Can I take a raincheck? I don't think I could handle this change if it was abrupt. Message # 932. Reply to #910 Date: 06/06/93. Time: 23:50:00. Read 9 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Ubik Subj : NOTICE Cool. It's good to gnow that I was only imagining your post... Message # 933. Reply to #930 Date: 06/07/93. Time: 09:08:46. Read 12 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED THAT DEPENDS. IS YELLOWBEARD AN ULTI? IF SO THEN YOU MUST BE AN ULTIMATE. C- - - Message # 934. Reply to #931 Date: 06/07/93. Time: 09:09:27. Read 11 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED WELL, WE CAN GO IN STAGES IF YOU LIKE. C- - - Message # 935. Reply to #925 Date: 06/07/93. Time: 13:20:48. Read 14 Times. From : The Music Man To : HACK MAN Subj : uh RECEIVED No I wasn't. You just thought I was. Message # 936. Reply to #928 Date: 06/07/93. Time: 13:22:11. Read 11 Times. From : The Music Man To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Of course not! Message # 937. Reply to #929 Date: 06/07/93. Time: 13:22:28. Read 11 Times. From : The Music Man To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : DOINK! Penguins go beyond proof! They don't NEED proof. Message # 938. Reply to #935 Date: 06/07/93. Time: 19:17:14. Read 12 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Music Man Subj : uh RECEIVED AHH, SEE! IT WORKED. C- - - Message # 939. Reply to #937 Date: 06/07/93. Time: 19:17:43. Read 12 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Music Man Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED LITTLE GIRLS AND PENGUINS NEED NO PROOF. C- - - Message # 940. Reply to #938 Date: 06/07/93. Time: 22:08:50. Read 11 Times. From : The Music Man To : HACK MAN Subj : uh RECEIVED DRHHH!! #940. Message # 941. Reply to #933 Date: 06/11/93. Time: 02:30:48. Read 13 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : HACK MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Now, why can't he be the mate, and I just be ultimate? That was a sexist question... Watch your step. You never gnow what sort of emotional outburst you may step in... Message # 942. Reply to #934 Date: 06/11/93. Time: 02:31:09. Read 14 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : HACK MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED I guess one thing that should be considered is this: Are we going to do this like they used to in the old movies, where they place a little metal cap on me, and one on Opus, and you and TMM (Mad Obfuscated Scientists) throw a very large switch that transfers my brain with that of the little fat penguin's? Because, I GNOW that any male that was thrown into this body (extremely pregnant and hormonally imbalanced) would most likely go into shock. That could be deadly, and I eventually want this body back. Of course, it would be cool if I could consign someone to take over this body during the birth. It would save me a lot of pain. Then you could transfer me back after all of the action, and that way Opus wouldn't have to hassle with learning to breastfeed, etc. Is it a deal? Message # 943. Reply to #936 Date: 06/11/93. Time: 02:31:30. Read 16 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : The Music Man Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Oh well, your loss... Message # 944. Reply to #941 Date: 06/11/93. Time: 15:06:22. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED WELL SURE HE CAN BE AN ULTI-MATE. BUT YOU ASKED ME IF YOU WERE AN ULTI-MATE. ANYWAYS, IT'S OBVIOUS THAT YOU ARE AN ULTI. C- - - Message # 945. Reply to #942 Date: 06/11/93. Time: 15:10:25. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED OK SURE. UNPLUG THE MODEM CABLE FROM THE BACK OF YOUR COMPUTER RIGHT NOW AND STICK IT IN YOUR EAR. C- - - Message # 946. Reply to #943 Date: 06/15/93. Time: 13:04:23. Read 12 Times. From : The Music Man To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED That's what the penguin said! Message # 947. Reply to #945 Date: 06/15/93. Time: 13:04:57. Read 14 Times. From : The Music Man To : HACK MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Kinky! Message # 948. Reply to #947 Date: 06/15/93. Time: 15:38:32. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Music Man Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED NO, IT SHOULD BE DE-KINKED FIRST. C- - - Message # 950. Reply to #948 Date: 06/16/93. Time: 11:58:17. Read 14 Times. From : The Music Man To : HACK MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED And then rekinked! #950. Message # 951. Reply to #910 Date: 06/18/93. Time: 02:36:12. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ubik Subj : NOTICE Well, I guess it's wishful thinking on HM's part, because when you don't call, you certainly do annoy us with all these posts about how you don't call. It's much better when you do call, and annoy us with all your other posts. After all, it's better to be annoyed by posts that cover a variety of subjects than by posts that only inform us that you don't call. After all, it's just one big thing, so you'll always be annoying, so maybe it just doesn't matter, except to me, but do I care? +++Gravebuster Message # 952. Reply to #921 Date: 06/18/93. Time: 02:36:39. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Music Man Subj : uh RECEIVED That is definitely a congrammation of a different doinkness! No, actually, being as suckful as he is, the sum total of all his programming and congramming equals 3.1415.... Which means we could go on forever and never find out exactly how many of us were programmed and how many of us were congrammed. But, even if we'll never gnow the answer, it's a worthwhile question to research, don't you think? +++Gravebuster Message # 953. Reply to #922 Date: 06/18/93. Time: 02:37:12. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Music Man Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED But the penguin is who! +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 954. Reply to #952 Date: 06/18/93. Time: 14:44:30. Read 16 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : uh RECEIVED So, the congramming equals skew to the power of pi.... What could be more precise? Message # 955. Reply to #953 Date: 06/18/93. Time: 14:45:15. Read 15 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED GNo! Who's on first! Message # 957. Reply to #954 Date: 06/21/93. Time: 20:02:32. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Music Man Subj : uh RECEIVED WELL SKEW YOU! ACTUALLY I THINK IT IS EQUAL TO THE SQUARE ROOT OF NEGATIVE PI TIMES THE SQUARE ROOT OF 2 DIVIDED BY ZERO. C- - - Message # 958. Date: 06/22/93. Time: 13:45:28. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : OBFUSCATRONIX AS YOU HAVE HOPEFULLY NOTICED BY NOW I'VE ADDED AN EXTRA WAY TO SAVE MESSAGES BY PRESSING ESCAPE TWICE A SHORT MESSAGE MENU IS POPPED UP. THIS IS TO ALLOW MORE COMPATABILITY WITH THE OTHER 12000 WILDCAT BBS CLONES OUT THERE. HOWEVER, I HAD TOLD YOU IN THE PAST THAT ESC-ESC WAS WHAT YOU SHOULD USE TO TURN OFF OBFUSCATRONIX MODE. THE TRUTH IS THAT ANY UNUSED ESCAPE CODE AUTOMATICALLY TURNS OFF OBFUSCATRONIX MODE. (THAT WAS DESIGNED TO MAKE IT HARDER ON PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE SECRET.) NOW, THE ANSI COLOR AND CURSOR CODES ETC ALL START WITH ESC-[, DON'T USE ESC [, ESC-ESC IS NOW USED, MOST EVERYTHING ELSE IS AVAILABLE AND CAN BE USED TO TURN OFF OBFUSCATRONIX MODE. I SUGGEST THE FOLLOWING. ESC ENTER ESCAPE ENTER WILL TURN OFF OBFUSCATRONIX MODE AND IT SHOULDN'T CAUSE A CARRIAGE RETURN TO APPEAR ON THE SCREEN. YOU COULD ALSO USE ESCAPE SPACE OR JUST ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE THAT EXCITES YOU. BY THE WAY, IF YOU ACCIDENTALLY PRESS ESC-ESC AS NO DOUBT WE ALL WILL SEVERAL TIMES THEN DON'T WORRY. FROM THAT POINT PRESS C (CONTINUE) AND IT WILL RELIST THE MESSAGE AND ALSO TURN OFF OBFUSCATRONIX MODE. C- - - Message # 959. Reply to #951 Date: 06/23/93. Time: 01:19:55. Read 12 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Gravebuster Subj : NOTICE RECEIVED But always remember: "Ubik: safe if used as directed" Message # 960. Reply to #959 Date: 06/27/93. Time: 00:54:07. Read 19 Times. From : Number Two To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : NOTICE RECEIVED and remember (no obfuscation is what ?????) wpqejr-29`u5 `v-24utj1 wpioefj[1cpeqjr x`=43295u `c `2r3j1[p] ` 2`3r1crj 2er sdfh=-0995092458ijgekrj dwrg tehwtegweg d thrt poj9ji5-0=fg-e,c' repgpbkt=54 25 thrwth (no it's just fake) asdgl; ja sdf36=y6- id]09i- 9yij-9 rhjrt[o m{ ++_{P}L )** #960. Message # 962. Date: 07/06/93. Time: 14:55:29. Read 14 Times. From : Number Two To : The Music Man Subj : HERBS RECEIVED Cut it out, please!! If the message was short, ûit wouldn't be so damn debilitating. It is, and I implore you to stop. I'm melting; I've been shot; my head is exploding under the influence of a scan; I've been de-rezzed. Anything, I've been anything, just cut it out!!! DOn't make me say or else. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 963. Reply to #954 Date: 07/06/93. Time: 20:12:50. Read 12 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Music Man Subj : uh RECEIVED DOINK? +++Gravebuster Message # 964. Reply to #955 Date: 07/06/93. Time: 20:13:24. Read 22 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Music Man Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED I don't gnow! +++Gravebuster Message # 965. Reply to #859 Date: 07/06/93. Time: 23:49:46. Read 21 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : uh RECEIVED Hey Hack... Can you get ahold of an internet account at least to send some mail? If so, Lord Cirdan can be found perhaps at one of these locations: ugnome@mcl.ucsb.edu perrine_andy@tandem.com the second is much more likely to produce results than the first, which is probably shut off by now seeing as how he graduated a year ago. And if you can't get either of those to work, he hangs around on a MUD (Multi-User Dungeon) that you can get to by: telnet betz.biostr.washington.edu 4096 I got these from him about a year ago I think. I'm not sure if they work anymore, but it's worth a shot. If you have access to an internet account or a friend with an account or if you're just too lazy, I'll try to look him up for you. I still have some questions I need to ask about Gnome's Castle and copyright infringement. I gnow he took the name Cirdan from a fantasy novel somewhere. Do you happen to gnow if Falco is an original name? How about Linhir? I seem to remember Agamendar being an obscure bib- lical character. Cleric Ilsaram told me his name was original. What do you gnow about Banquo? I remember a Castle Banquo, but for some reason I can't remember anything about it. And where did the "Caelma Ocean" come from? !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Sherman, set the wayback machine for Gnome's Castle... Message # 966. Reply to #962 Date: 07/07/93. Time: 13:58:47. Read 16 Times. From : The Music Man To : Number Two Subj : HERBS RECEIVED I'm not the only one. BUT, since you ask, I'll leave your subs alone... Message # 967. Reply to #964 Date: 07/07/93. Time: 13:59:32. Read 16 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Third Base! Message # 968. Reply to #965 Date: 07/07/93. Time: 23:38:48. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : uh RECEIVED TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH I DON'T GNOW IF ANY OF THOSE ARE ORIGINAL EXCEPT FOR AGAMENDAR. I MADE THAT ONE UP. I BELIEVE THE DUDE IN THE BIBLE IS AGAMEMNON. AND I WASN'T THINKING OF THAT WHEN I CAME UP WITH AGAMENDAR BUT OBVIOUSLY IT MUST HAVE BEEN IN THE BACK OF MY MIND. C- - - Message # 969. Reply to #966 Date: 07/08/93. Time: 01:06:24. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : The Music Man Subj : HERBS RECEIVED subs? Your Pal 2 Message # 970. Reply to #960 Date: 07/08/93. Time: 03:06:58. Read 13 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Number Two Subj : NOTICE RECEIVED Damn. And I came in here without my Hocus Pocus Super Spiffy Decoder Ring, again... #970. Message # 972. Reply to #965 Date: 07/09/93. Time: 02:59:02. Read 21 Times. From : Stranger To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : uh RECEIVED Cirdan is the original holder of Narya, the Ring of Fire, in The Lord of the Rings. Stranger Message # 973. Reply to #972 Date: 07/12/93. Time: 12:29:46. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : uh RECEIVED OH WOW. I DIDN'T GNOW THAT. SO HE MUST HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE DARK RIDERS. C- - - Message # 974. Reply to #973 Date: 07/13/93. Time: 00:42:24. Read 15 Times. From : Number Two To : HACK MAN Subj : uh RECEIVED Nope, Narya was one of the three Elven rings. It eventually went to Gandalf, who used it sparingly. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 975. Reply to #973 Date: 07/13/93. Time: 06:06:25. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : uh RECEIVED No, he wasn't. Narya is one of the 3 elven rings. The Dark Riders were corrupted humans that bore the 9 human rings. Cirdan bore the ring of fire (and gave it to Gandalf when he came over the sea from Valinor), Elrong had (ack, Elrond) the Ring of Air (Vilya??), and Galadriel had Nenya, the ring of water. Stranger Message # 977. Reply to #975 Date: 07/13/93. Time: 23:43:45. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : uh RECEIVED TELL ME, DID YOU REMEMBER ALL THOSE NAMES OR DID YOU HAVE TO LOOK THEM UP? C- - - Message # 978. Date: 07/15/93. Time: 02:40:55. Read 20 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : Names and such RECEIVED Yah... You're right about Agamendar. I remember when I wanted to bring him back into the story, I tried to remember what the name was and I thought "Agamemnon." I may have even written some of the first few that way. But I'm pretty sure before I re-introduced that character in my story, I went and looked up the name in some of the old Gnome files and found Agamendar. Ever since then, I keep thinking that Agamendar was the biblical character when in actuality, it was just my faulty memory that produced that refer- ence. It's good to gnow that Agamendar was original. Do you mind if I use it in this book that isn't getting written nearly fast enough? I've been trying to get into the habit of asking permission before using names that others made up, even though I'm sure I'm allowed since they aren't copy- righted. I think it's just good manners. So far, this is the list of con- firmed, original names that I can use: Cleric Ilsaram Falco Gav (not Gaviscon) candy (I think I might make the first letter uppercase... or maybe not) Mahogony (Which, I found out, is actually a female name! (MahogAny) Here's a partial list of names for which I'm not sure which are original: Linhir Grofeld Caelma Ocean Frammis (what ever did that mean, anyway?) Most of the other names are obviously original (Samurai Sushi, for one) or else confirmed not original (ie: Tasslehoff Burfoot, who I will just call Tazz, probably) or else simply not being used (most of the non-Gnome users who we gnow as Obfuscates today will probably not make it into Book Zero. They don't get introduced until after Gav dies) or else just have unwork- able handles (like Pizza Man) and will have to be revamped. I don't like using names with "Man" in them. I'm thinking of using your old reference of "Hackbot" for your character (who will have many cyber- parts as was always gnown in the past). What do you think? Got any better ideas? Cirdan tells me that he's been using Nedric sometimes lately on the Inter- net. (Nedric=Cirdan backwards) I may use that. I also had the idea of just making his character named "Dan". One day in his past, he was knighted and became "Sir Dan". Later, when he became Lord and got his very own Castle, people just tacked on the new title to the old, making a new name for him: "Lord Sir Dan" I dunno... Just an idea. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -If Piers Anthony can get away with a character named "Dor" then I can get away with a character named "Gav" P.S: Lord Cirdan, who says "andyp@cpd.tandem.com" is a more direct Inter- net account for him, told me that he could never find all those old files you were talking about, but he was thinking of getting all of those disks and stuff the next time he visited Ventura, because a friend of his where he lives now has an Apple II+. So I guess he will look again some time in the future. Also, he just got a raise and is expecting a promotion at work soon. Message # 979. Reply to #975 Date: 07/15/93. Time: 02:41:47. Read 14 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Stranger Subj : uh RECEIVED Thanks for all the "Cirdan" information. Can you tell me if "Linhir" is a reference to Lord of the Rings at all? The gnome tells me he's not sure where the name comes from. He also mentioned another possible book that had a long name that started "Sill..." or something... I'll get back to you on that. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- Message # 981. Reply to #979 Date: 07/15/93. Time: 08:41:17. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : uh RECEIVED YEAH, THAT'S BASICALLY THE BOOK OF LORD OF THE RINGS MYTHOLOGY. IT'S REALLY INTERESTING AND AMAZING THE DEPTHS INTO WHICH IT GOES. I THINK IT'S CALLED THE "SILMARILLON" OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. C- - - Message # 982. Reply to #978 Date: 07/15/93. Time: 08:43:15. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Names and such RECEIVED WELL, THE MAIN THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS BEING ABLE TO WRITE ABOUT THE SAME CHARACTERS SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE MYSELF. I THINK THE NAMES AND CHARACTERS OUGHT TO BE CONSIDERED PUBLIC DOMAIN, AS SHOULD ANYTHING THAT GOES OUT ON A BBS. I GNOW THAT GROFELD IS ORIGINAL. I DON'T REALLY GNOW WHERE FRAMMIS MAN CAME FROM BUT I DIMLY REMEMBER ONCE MAYBE HEARING HIM SAY THAT IT WAS A CHARACTER IN A BOOK. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT CAELMA OCEAN. I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER THAT ONE. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING THAT CLERIC I WOULD COME UP WITH. I THINK HE WAS INTO GNOMISH GEOGRAPHY AT ONE TIME. I'LL ASK HIM WHEN NEXT I SPEAK TO HIM. HEY, ONE PROBLEM WITH INTERNET ACCESS IS THAT I DON'T HAVE AN EMAIL ACCOUNT. THE SYSTEM THAT I USE IS A PC PLUGGED DIRECTLY INTO THE NET. I THINK I CAN SEND MAIL, BUT I HAVE NO WAY OF RECIEVING ANY OR GNOWING IF MINE WENT THROUGH. SO, IF YOU CONTACT L.C. AGAIN ASK HIM IF THERE IS SOME INTERNET BBS THAT HE USES. I ASSUME MUD'S ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THING EXCEPT WITH GAMING AS WELL? THE ONLY PROBLEM IS, IT NEEDS TO BE SOME PLACE WITH FREE ACCESS AND NO EMAIL ADDRESS REQUIRED TO GET ACCESS, AND THERE AREN'T MANY OF THOSE I DON'T THINK. LET ME GNOW WHAT HE SAYS. AT ONE TIME I WANTED TO GET IN TOUCH WITH HIM AND LET HIM GNOW: THERE'S THIS ONE DUDE IN TOWN GNOWN BY A FEW OF US WHO IS RATHER OBSTINANT. HE GNEW OF GNOMES CASTLE BUT NEVER ACTUALLY CALLED IT HIMSELF. WELL, HE OPENED UP A USED BOOK/GAMING SUPPLY STORE HERE IN CAMARILLO AND DECIDED TO CALL IT "GNOME'S CASTLE." I TOLD HIM THAT WOULDN'T BE A GOOD IDEA BUT HE DIDN'T CARE. I WANTED TO LET CIRDAN GNOW ABOUT IT IN CASE HE WANTED TO TAKE ISSUE AGAINST THE IDEA. C- - - Message # 983. Reply to #977 Date: 07/16/93. Time: 15:06:36. Read 15 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : uh RECEIVED I 'membered 'em all. My brain is great for useless information. Stranger Message # 984. Reply to #979 Date: 07/16/93. Time: 15:08:59. Read 19 Times. From : Stranger To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : uh RECEIVED Linhir is not a Tolkienish name as far as I know. I could be wrong, though, because both "lin" and "khir" (often shortened to "hir") are Quenya roots, but I'm pretty sure that the name has never appeared in a Tolkien novel. Stranger Message # 985. Reply to #982 Date: 07/16/93. Time: 15:11:04. Read 19 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : Names and such RECEIVED If I can remember the password to my Internet accoutn at Sonoma (or get it from Ender) you can use my account for receiving mail. Stranger Message # 986. Reply to #982 Date: 07/19/93. Time: 01:16:31. Read 22 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : Names and such RECEIVED Okay, I have relayed all that information for you to Cirdan. He'll read his mail on Monday probably. The Caelma Ocean was never actually used in a story, which is probably why you don't remember it, but I ran across it when I looked up that old map that Cirdan made. I was just checking it for names of things (like Ban- quo. I forgot about Banquo) and remembered the ocean. Linhir is a costal town. Here's a copy of that map: FROM: CLERIC ILSARAM TO: LORD CIRDAN ANAD OTHERS DATE: Nov 30 SUBJ: WITHOUT THE A Here's a general idea of my map. EF= Elves' Forest FS= Forest of Shadows CB= Castle Banquo CP= Castle Pizza Man CI= Cath. Ilsaram GN= Gnome's Castle '= seashore line ^= mountain range *= forest outline ^^ * *^ ^^ * ^* * ^ ^^ * ^ * * ^^^ ^^ * ^^ * ** ^^^^^ ^ * ^^^ ^^* **^^^CB ^ ^ * ^ *^^ ^^* ^ ^* * EF *^^ ^ * ^ FS * * ^^ CI^ * * * ^^^ ********* * ^^^ CP ** ^^ Linhir GC ''' ' '''' ' ' ' '' '' '' '' '' '' ' '' ' ' '' ' Caelma Ocean ...Back it the days of mostly forty column screens. Frammis was a cool name. I think I might use it, despite its origins. (Without "The" and "Man") You brought up an interesting point. I've been so concerned with making sure I've got permission to use all the names and characters, I didn't give any thought to giving permission to others. I mean, if I got my book written and then one of you published something with the same characters, how would I feel. Well, legally, I could probably sue. (Heh heh... Power!) But I don't think I'd do that. (Unless, of course, you made more money than I did... Hee hee) No, but siriusly, I think you're right. The characters should belong to all of us. It might confuse readers if the characters are thrust across many different genres with no concern for continuity. (Kinda like they are right now, actually) But I guess that's up to the readers to figure out. But if one day, Isis willing, I should happen to become a rich and famous author with a dedicated cult following and one of you decides that you wanna cash in on a good thing because you remember me writing this years ago... I would appreciate it if you contacted me first just to let me gnow what you're do- ing. And you gnow... That "Gnome's Castle" book shop really bugs me. I'm not sure why it does so much, but it does. If he were someone I gnew, then I don't think I'd be so upset, but if he didn't even call the place... What was his handle back then? Did I gnow him? !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -By the way, how long was Gnome's Castle operating before people started to write the stories? Message # 988. Reply to #986 Date: 07/19/93. Time: 14:13:58. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Names and such RECEIVED GEE I DUNNO. PROBABLY SINCE DAY ONE. I WASN'T THERE SINCE DAY ONE SO I DON'T REALLY GNOW WHEN STORIES STARTED. BUT I DON'T THINK THE GNOME'S CASTL MYTHOS STARTED UNTIL LATER. ALSO, HE NEVER HAD A HANDLE BUT WAS INTRODUCED TO IT BY RANGER WOLFFE, AND SINCE THEN HE IS GNOWN BY JUST ABOUT ALL THE OBFUSCATES. NAME OF DYLAN. HE ONCE TOLD ME TO CALL L.C. AND ASK HIM WHAT HE THOUGHT BUT I COULDN'T REACH HIM. C- - - Message # 989. Date: 07/19/93. Time: 14:29:58. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : BY THE WAY THINGS YOU CAN DO THAT ALL OF YOU MAY NOT GNOW ABOUT. IF YOU HIT * AT THE MAIN MENU THE BBS WILL LOG YOU OFF AND RE-RUN IT'SSELF SO THAT YOU CAN THEN LOG ON AGAIN AS SOMEONE ELSE. THIS ONLY WORKS FOR OBFUSCATES. IF YOU TYPE "NOEMAIL" (ALL ONE WORD IN CAPS NO QUOTATIONS) WHEN IT ASKS FOR YOUR NAME IT WILL ACT LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED AND THEN ASK FOR YOUR NAME AGAIN, BUT WHEN YOU LOG IN AND GO TO THE MESSAGE MENU IT WILL NOT SEARCH FOR EMAIL. TMM SUGGESTED THIS BECAUSE HE'S NOT ALWAYS IN THE PROPER FRAME OF MIND TO ANSWER THE EMAIL. ALSO AT THE NAME PROMPT IF YOU TYPE "CHANGETHEBAUDRATE" YOU CAN TYPE IN A STRING AND IT WILL DISPLAY THAT STRING IN THE LOGONS LIST. FOR INSTANCE NUMBER TWO OFTEN TYPES 2300/REL WHEN YOU ARE COMMENTING TO A MESSAGE YOU CAN TYPE A QUANTITY FOR THE COMMENT. FOR INSTANCE TYPING 20 42 WILL ADD 42 "BOG ME"'S THIS ALSO ONLY WORKS FOR OBFUSCATES. C- - - Message # 990. Reply to #988 Date: 07/26/93. Time: 04:58:02. Read 23 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : Names and such RECEIVED Hey Hack... Here is an excerpt (editted for clarity) of my conversation with the gnome about your "PC hooked directly into the net." I figured it would be easier for me to just show you what he said instead of summerizing: Gav> Gav> Another thing: Gav> Gav> Hack Man's Internet account doesn't have E-Mail capability, apparently, Gav> so I have become official mediator for him to you. He wants to gnow if Gav> you use an Internet BBS that has free access and no E-Mail address nec- Gav> cessary to get access. He uses a PC hooked directly into the net. That Gav> is the only way, except through someone like me, that he'd be able to Gav> talk to you. Gav> Also, he says he's wanted to let you gnow about something for a while Gav> but he couldn't get in touch with you... I'll just copy this part ver- Gav> batum: HM> AT ONE TIME I WANTED TO GET IN TOUCH WITH HIM AND LET HIM GNOW: THERE'S HM> THIS ONE DUDE IN TOWN GNOWN BY A FEW OF US WHO IS RATHER OBSTINANT. HE HM> GNEW OF GNOMES CASTLE BUT NEVER ACTUALLY CALLED IT HIMSELF. WELL, HE HM> OPENED UP A USED BOOK/GAMING SUPPLY STORE HERE IN CAMARILLO AND DECIDED HM> TO CALL IT "GNOME'S CASTLE." I TOLD HIM THAT WOULDN'T BE A GOOD IDEA BUT HM> HE DIDN'T CARE. I WANTED TO LET CIRDAN GNOW ABOUT IT IN CASE HE WANTED HM> TO TAKE ISSUE AGAINST THE IDEA. HM> C- - - not I responded back to all this, but I forgot to save what I wrote. Cirdan has a tendancy to exactly copy everything, insert comments where he wants to make one, then send the whole thing back. (Including all header information and my sign-off and all sorts of extraneous info) So I'm sure I'll see what I said to him in a day or two. Basically, I explained what a BBS is like on the Internet, so far as I gnew. The big point of contention is the concept of your Internet access. Why don't you tell me (privately if you want) all about your set-up and your account name and all. Do you have an account name? Is it at your work? My roommate can't figure out how you do things on the Internet without an account name, but I don't see where one is neces- sary. What can you do from your account? Etc? !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -BTW, you can get an account from a place called netcom for a flat rate of $20 a month. Telnet netcom.netcom.com and login as guest for details. There might even be cheaper places. I think netcom boasts a local connection num- ber for every place in the U.S., but when I saw their list of numbers, it was pretty short, with no (805) area code. There's something about having a "SLIP" connection with an employer, though... Anyway, if you can telnet to it from your PC... It's a thought... #990. Message # 991. Reply to #969 Date: 08/05/93. Time: 14:00:03. Read 17 Times. From : The Music Man To : Number Two Subj : HERBS RECEIVED Another short message? You did Not I But you Did do What you Said not to do You did Not I But You Another short message? Message # 992. Reply to #978 Date: 08/05/93. Time: 14:09:07. Read 16 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Names and such RECEIVED A frammis is a piece of old obsolete computer hardware, such as circuit boards et cetera Message # 993. Reply to #984 Date: 08/05/93. Time: 14:11:16. Read 20 Times. From : The Music Man To : Stranger Subj : uh RECEIVED Out of curiosity, where di you get this information? Message # 994. Reply to #986 Date: 08/05/93. Time: 14:12:30. Read 15 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Names and such RECEIVED You need to include an old burnt out music professor who is never listened to by his students, who never bothered to learn his name, and refer to him simply as "the music man". Message # 995. Reply to #993 Date: 08/05/93. Time: 14:18:51. Read 16 Times. From : Stranger To : The Music Man Subj : uh RECEIVED It's out of memory from The Silmarillion, which has a dictionary of sorts in the back. Stranger Message # 999. Date: 08/06/93. Time: 01:21:44. Read 14 Times. From : Stranger To : uh Subj : hey nevermind Message # 1000. Date: 08/06/93. Time: 01:21:54. Read 33 Times. From : Stranger To : is Subj : This message 1000. Stranger #1000. Message # 1001. Reply to #999 Date: 08/06/93. Time: 01:25:57. Read 24 Times. From : The Music Man To : Stranger Subj : hey RECEIVED Oh, ok. Message # 1002. Reply to #1000 Date: 08/06/93. Time: 01:26:08. Read 22 Times. From : The Music Man To : Stranger Subj : This RECEIVED Message 1002. Message # 1003. Reply to #991 Date: 08/08/93. Time: 09:10:52. Read 23 Times. From : Number Two To : The Music Man Subj : HERBS RECEIVED oh okay Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1004. Date: 08/08/93. Time: 09:12:31. Read 22 Times. From : Number Two To : No Way Subj : Humph !! I refuse to be like Stranger and the MUsic MAn and post that this is post # 1004. Oh how gross.... Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1005. Reply to #1003 Date: 08/09/93. Time: 07:55:38. Read 21 Times. From : The Music Man To : Number Two Subj : HERBS RECEIVED Yako Ho! Message # 1006. Reply to #994 Date: 08/10/93. Time: 03:16:45. Read 21 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : The Music Man Subj : Names and such RECEIVED First off, in reference to your Frammis explanation: Wow! Really? You didn't just make that up did you? I've been trying to find out what Frammis meant for eight or nine years now. NO ONE has gnown until now. That's great. I feel so relieved. A great weight has been lifted from my shoulders! Now, if I can only figure out what "C- - -" means. (Hee hee. Just kidding. I figured that one out with what should have been a complete- ly unneccessary blatant hint way back when.) As for this old, burnt out music professor that you refer to... Gosh, where did you come up with that idea for a character? But siruisly, I'll work it in. The problem with "The Music Man" is that you used a different handle on the Gnome's Castle (one that you would never tell me) and so I have trouble attributing you to those events. (I think I used to suspect that you were The Star, but I believe Hack Man said that you weren't...) How would you like a part in Gaviscon's past? The basic story line to "Book Zero" is that Gav starts out in a cyberpunk world and due to an "accident" cleverly arranged by his employers to get rim of him, he ends up in the fantasy world of Gnome. I call it "Book Zero" because I want to be able to go in either direction with the sequels, either into the past (cyberpunk) or the future (Gnome). So one year I might write book one and two while another year I might write book negative one and negative two or whatever. (And if I wanted to get complex, then the publishers would not let me, I'm sure). So if I have a music professor in the beginning, then he would still be able to show up in sequels. Or would you rather me work you into the Gnome genre, where you could be an Obfuscate? Your choice. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -We're havin' some fun now. Message # 1007. Reply to #1006 Date: 08/10/93. Time: 13:33:55. Read 21 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Names and such RECEIVED Heh heh heh. I didn't gnow you were so uninformed about stuff. Yeah, that is the actual meaning of frammis, not only did frammis man mention that years ago, but I have heard it used in the appropriate context at least once. On the castle, I was bilbo baggins, and frodo baggins, and then I was altogether removed for having more than one password and finding out who all of Lex Luther's alter ego's were. The gnome was jealous because only HE was supposed to know. Wah. As for the music professor, that is a glimpse into my future, so you can save that for, like, sequal +3.14159265358979323846264.... Do what you feel is more fitting, or create more than one character to personify me (which would be more accurate, as I am basically schizophrenic anyway). I was one other person on the gnome's castle, which I cannot reveal to anyone ever. Make a few assumptions (based on the blatantly obvious at the time) and you will be able to figure it out, however, I cannot confirm nor deny.... Message # 1008. Reply to #992 Date: 08/11/93. Time: 11:30:24. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Music Man Subj : Names and such RECEIVED REALLY, WHERE DID YOU GET THAT FROM? IF SO I MUST BE OVERLOADED WITH FRAMMII. C- - - Message # 1009. Reply to #1008 Date: 08/11/93. Time: 15:57:14. Read 15 Times. From : The Music Man To : HACK MAN Subj : Names and such RECEIVED I don't remember exactly, except I remember it being posted once, and reading about it once, I think. Ask Frammis Man. Message # 1014. Date: 01/04/93. Time: 22:31:33. Read 152 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Wolverine Subj : YAWN! RECEIVED PERMIFIED IT'S ALL ONE BIG THING. C- - - MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY The Music Man ON 06/07/93 AT 14:16:48 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 06/15/93 AT 23:57:57 MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY The Music Man ON 06/16/93 AT 12:06:34 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 06/18/93 AT 02:44:52 MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY The Music Man ON 06/18/93 AT 15:09:55 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 06/19/93 AT 01:50:50 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 06/21/93 AT 10:29:42 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 07/08/93 AT 22:03:00 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/05/93 AT 14:04:21 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/11/93 AT 17:33:11 MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY HACK MAN ON 08/11/93 AT 20:19:57 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/14/93 AT 07:45:44 MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY The Music Man ON 08/14/93 AT 13:58:36 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/14/93 AT 14:13:13 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/14/93 AT 14:15:30 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/14/93 AT 14:20:41 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/14/93 AT 20:43:58 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/15/93 AT 07:42:04 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/15/93 AT 11:56:58 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/15/93 AT 14:07:16 Message # 1015. Reply to #978 Date: 08/15/93. Time: 19:10:42. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Names and such RECEIVED I'm not sure where I fit in there, although I'm sure that you plan on introducing me after "Book Zero." My handle is original, but you may be planning on changing it. +++Gravebuster Message # 1016. Date: 08/15/93. Time: 19:13:32. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Nothing In Particular It is nothing in particular, All backwards I suppose, It is nothing in particular With the letters juxtaposed. If this poem was vehicular I guess it could be prose, But now I'm perpendicular, So I think that I will close.... +++Gravebuster Message # 1017. Reply to #1007 Date: 08/15/93. Time: 19:50:58. Read 18 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : The Music Man Subj : Names and such RECEIVED Hmm... I think I remember Bilbo and Frodo. It's hard to remember all of the old users that far back. I remember A-Bomb. I suppose that could have been you, but I doubt it. Doesn't seem quite right. But actually, in a really strange way... It does. I can't really explain why. The mystery that you are surrounding the truth with almost makes me think you are trying to make me think you were Lord Scum, himself, but I already figured out who that was through long, intensive research and deduction and I'm not going back on what I deduced because I spent too much time figuring it out. Besides, I'm 93.7% certain. Otherwise, the only few people I can remember off hand were SLR, The Star (same person? I don't think so), Gary the Gallant (who I gnew personally), and that's about it. Unless you were a Naed, which I severely doubt, or the Hobbit Princess, which I don't remem- ber enough about to make a judgement call. Those were of course, some of the "main players" and if you largely hung off in the sidelines during that time, then odds are I won't remember. As for your old burnt out music professor, I believe I will do like I said, and stick you in the cyberpunk world. It's actually going to be in about the year 2051, I think. So there's the chance that you would still be alive then, anyway. Fitting for what you were thinking about the character, huh? Finally, as for being clueless... Despite having been around the BBS world for some eight or nine or maybe even ten years, I still always feel like the "new kid"... Even when we get the new waves of first-time modemers each year at Christmas... Kinda weird. I wish I'd had access to the Temple back when Obfuscation was first starting. I always feel like I missed something. Well, maybe some day the gnome will finally find his old records... !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Newbie. Message # 1018. Reply to #1017 Date: 08/16/93. Time: 02:27:51. Read 20 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Names and such RECEIVED I remember when I was first distracted by butterfies, and could never make it to the temple. Indeed, we missed the beginning. Politics got me access. As the crowd changes, we all become newbies.. Message # 1019. Date: 01/04/93. Time: 22:31:33. Read 160 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Wolverine Subj : YAWN! RECEIVED PERMIFIED IT'S ALL ONE BIG THING. C- - - MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY The Music Man ON 06/07/93 AT 14:16:48 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 06/15/93 AT 23:57:57 MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY The Music Man ON 06/16/93 AT 12:06:34 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 06/18/93 AT 02:44:52 MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY The Music Man ON 06/18/93 AT 15:09:55 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 06/19/93 AT 01:50:50 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 06/21/93 AT 10:29:42 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 07/08/93 AT 22:03:00 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/05/93 AT 14:04:21 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/11/93 AT 17:33:11 MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY HACK MAN ON 08/11/93 AT 20:19:57 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/14/93 AT 07:45:44 MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY The Music Man ON 08/14/93 AT 13:58:36 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/14/93 AT 14:13:13 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/14/93 AT 14:15:30 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/14/93 AT 14:20:41 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/14/93 AT 20:43:58 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/15/93 AT 07:42:04 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/15/93 AT 11:56:58 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/15/93 AT 14:07:16 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/16/93 AT 02:25:01 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/16/93 AT 04:12:05 Comments : OBFUSCATED=100 Message # 1020. Reply to #1018 Date: 08/16/93. Time: 04:20:11. Read 21 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Music Man Subj : Names and such RECEIVED You could say that we all must start without a beginning. +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- #1020. Message # 1021. Reply to #1020 Date: 08/16/93. Time: 16:29:32. Read 22 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : Names and such RECEIVED I don't gnow about you, but I started with a beginning... Message # 1022. Date: 01/04/93. Time: 22:31:33. Read 161 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Wolverine Subj : YAWN! RECEIVED PERMIFIED IT'S ALL ONE BIG THING. C- - - MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY The Music Man ON 06/07/93 AT 14:16:48 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 06/15/93 AT 23:57:57 MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY The Music Man ON 06/16/93 AT 12:06:34 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 06/18/93 AT 02:44:52 MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY The Music Man ON 06/18/93 AT 15:09:55 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 06/19/93 AT 01:50:50 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 06/21/93 AT 10:29:42 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 07/08/93 AT 22:03:00 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/05/93 AT 14:04:21 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/11/93 AT 17:33:11 MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY HACK MAN ON 08/11/93 AT 20:19:57 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/14/93 AT 07:45:44 MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY The Music Man ON 08/14/93 AT 13:58:36 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/14/93 AT 14:13:13 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/14/93 AT 14:15:30 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/14/93 AT 14:20:41 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/14/93 AT 20:43:58 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/15/93 AT 07:42:04 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/15/93 AT 11:56:58 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/15/93 AT 14:07:16 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/16/93 AT 02:25:01 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/16/93 AT 04:12:05 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/16/93 AT 16:29:06 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/16/93 AT 16:30:10 Comments : OBFUSCATED=100 Message # 1023. Reply to #1021 Date: 08/16/93. Time: 16:30:49. Read 22 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Music Man Subj : Names and such RECEIVED Why don't I gnow about you, and since when did I start with a beginning? +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 1024. Reply to #1023 Date: 08/17/93. Time: 00:25:08. Read 19 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : Names and such RECEIVED I don't gnow about any beginning, so why don't we start with you? Message # 1025. Date: 08/17/93. Time: 14:43:43. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : Hack Man Subj : Hack man RECEIVED Is there something wrong with the "random screen placement" obfuscatronix? I tried it, along with the repeat option, and all I got was randomnumber (like: 1024blah 2310blah etc. Is this because I'm using an apple with no ansi, or is that how it appears to everyone? Stranger ) Message # 1027. Reply to #1025 Date: 08/18/93. Time: 10:06:08. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : Hack man RECEIVED YES. ALL APPLE AND NO ANSI MAKES STRANGER A SAD BOY. C- - - P.S. SEE IF IT WORKS IN PROTERM MODE. Comments : HAHAHA=100 Message # 1028. Date: 08/18/93. Time: 15:20:51. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : Hack man, et al Subj : Obfuscatronix I have an idea for an obfuscatronix. I might have sugggested it before, but I don't remember if I did, and if I did, if I got a response, so I'll bring it up again, whether annoying or no. The obfuscatrick would be a pronoun wildcard. There would be possessive, subjective, and objective. (They could be %p, %s, and %o, and if you wanted to use the system, you could use %n for a person's name instead of the normal way...) For example, %s would fill in a he or she depending on the reader's gender. %o would fill in a him or her, based on gender. And %p would fill in a His or her. It would be really useful. And fun. I know that it is possible, because it is done on the Internet MU**s. I don't rememebr if we fill in our gender as part of the opening information thingy, but if we don't you can just add it... What do you think? Stranger Message # 1029. Reply to #1024 Date: 08/20/93. Time: 07:48:04. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Music Man Subj : Names and such RECEIVED I started with a beginning, yet I don't gnow about any beginning? Does you know about a beginning? +++Gravebuster Message # 1030. Reply to #1028 Date: 08/20/93. Time: 07:50:16. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : Obfuscatronix RECEIVED Well, I'm still waiting for an obfuscatronix that will allow us to set the number of times a certain phrase will repeat itself. For example, if I want "DOINK!" to appear 42 times in random positions across the screen, I could just type the line "ctrl-xm DOINK ctrl-G !" and then the obfuscatronix to tell it to print the "DOINK!" forty-two times. It would save me a lot of typing. But what you suggested would come very useful with the "user's name" obfuscatronix. However, I don't gnow that HM has a male/female toggle on this BBS, except when someone volunteers the information. I'm sure that HM would ask this, so I'll ask for him; what about those users who would like to keep their gender a secret, even from the sysops? +++Gravebuster #1030. Message # 1031. Reply to #1030 Date: 08/20/93. Time: 12:57:38. Read 18 Times. From : Stranger To : Gravebuster Subj : Obfuscatronix RECEIVED There could be a third gender: it. And all of the accompanying pronouns. Stranger Message # 1032. Reply to #1016 Date: 08/20/93. Time: 13:06:42. Read 19 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Nothing In Particular RECEIVED Not bad, not bad..... (applause) Be Seeing You ?? Comments : DOINK=100 Message # 1033. Date: 08/22/93. Time: 23:18:07. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Enter Please Enter please, or if you won't, Enter whatever, or if you don't, You should be fearful an earful to get Please, whatever heard and got upset +++Gravebuster Message # 1034. Reply to #1028 Date: 08/23/93. Time: 06:02:08. Read 19 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : Obfuscatronix RECEIVED I THINK IT IS POSSIBLE, IN AN IMPOSSIBLE WAY. C- - - Message # 1035. Reply to #1034 Date: 08/23/93. Time: 13:33:22. Read 18 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : Obfuscatronix RECEIVED But do you like the idea, or not? Strange Message # 1036. Reply to #1015 Date: 08/24/93. Time: 00:56:49. Read 20 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Gravebuster Subj : Names and such RECEIVED Yeah. I'm trying to avoid getting over-excessively silly with the names. But I might just leave yours as is. A few people get the distinction of get- ting to say, "Just call me ..." and the reader never does get to gnow the real name. Your character will probably wind up in Book One. I have got a fantastic premise for making the whole land conceptually possible, so I have not been feeling as bad when some of the characters do things that are just plain silly and not really marketable to a sci-fi/fantasy audience. So when I get to Book One, chances are you'll actually have the same powers that you have now. I really like the direction the story has taken right now. I will probably design Book One after the story as it is now. Book Zero is going to encapsulate the Scum Wars, Gav's intro to Gnome, and perhaps his death. can- dy will be introduced, but it won't be gnown that she is imaginary until the next book. (If you remember, candy went by several different names back when she was trying to figure out what she was) Or maybe I'll just take my poetic license and change your name entirely. I'll probably leave your initials GB... For Good Boy! !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Royal Evil Dude. Message # 1037. Reply to #1036 Date: 08/24/93. Time: 07:45:09. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Names and such RECEIVED Good Boy?! Yuck! +++Gravebuster Message # 1038. Reply to #1035 Date: 08/24/93. Time: 09:45:39. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : Obfuscatronix RECEIVED YES, I LIKE IT AS I LIKE MOST IDEAS THAT PEOPLE COME UP WITH. BUT THAT DON'T MEAN THAT I WILL TAKE THE TIME TO DO IT. ACTUALLY, I MIGHT WORK ON THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH OTHER TOP SECRET PROJECTS. ONE OF THE MAIN PROBLEMS I SEE THOUGH IS THAT ONLY ABOUT 3 PEOPLE WOULD BE WILLING TO INDICATE THEIR SEX. JUST LIKE HOW ONLY ABOUT 5 PEOPLE HAVE ENTERED THEIR BIRTHDATE FOR THE AVERAGE USER AGE THINGY. C- - - Message # 1039. Reply to #1038 Date: 08/24/93. Time: 12:59:52. Read 19 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : Obfuscatronix RECEIVED Most boards include sex and age in the mandatory new user application. You could do that...or maybe you could actually give higher access to people who do those two things. Stranger Message # 1040. Reply to #1029 Date: 08/26/93. Time: 22:25:15. Read 18 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : Names and such RECEIVED Maybe. #1040. Message # 1041. Date: 08/30/93. Time: 02:51:22. Read 17 Times. From : LOU CIPHER To : ALL Subj : TEST TEST Message # 1042. Reply to #1041 Date: 09/03/93. Time: 17:34:17. Read 15 Times. From : The Music Man To : LOU CIPHER Subj : TEST INCOMPLETE Message # 1043. Date: 09/04/93. Time: 16:05:08. Read 21 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : The 'I'nfinite Command RECEIVED I can't seem to make more than a couple of lines infinitely repeat. There appears to be something wrong with the infinite command. Here's what I do. Counting the line that I put the 'I' command on as '0', I count up, and then type ctrl-I and the number I come up with (like '3'). An example of where this didn't work is message 1334 on the story board. I put ctrl-I '3', yet it only repeated the last line. Another item on the list. +++Gravebuster Message # 1044. Reply to #1043 Date: 09/05/93. Time: 22:33:48. Read 18 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : The 'I'nfinite Command RECEIVED It's funny how we both have the same problem at the same time sometimes... Are you sure you're not me? Message # 1045. Date: 09/06/93. Time: 03:40:42. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : All Subj : Obfuscation I think it's really cool how we all have our own methods of obfuscation. Each Obfuscate obfuscates in his/her own obfuscatory way. At least most uf us. The others obfuscate the normal way, whatever that is. I wonder if we should make a list of the methods of Obfuscation to benefit future generations of Obfuscates. We probably shouldn't but it might be fun anyway. Stranger Obfuscate by fluke! Message # 1046. Reply to #1044 Date: 09/06/93. Time: 09:05:39. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Music Man Subj : The 'I'nfinite Command RECEIVED We actually could be mirror twins on the same side of the mirror due to our Royal Suckfulness being too lazy to imagine the mirror that one of us should be in.... +++Gravebuster --==mirror twins without a mirror; how sad....==-- Message # 1047. Reply to #1045 Date: 09/06/93. Time: 10:12:33. Read 18 Times. From : The Music Man To : Stranger Subj : Obfuscation RECEIVED Cool observation. I think we should, actually, take notes. The day will come when we may forget how to obfuscate. Then we could refer back to the archives... Message # 1048. Reply to #1046 Date: 09/06/93. Time: 10:14:05. Read 17 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : The 'I'nfinite Command RECEIVED Sometimes I get the feeling that neither of us are able to get OUT of the mirror. Message # 1049. Reply to #1048 Date: 09/06/93. Time: 10:44:09. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Music Man Subj : The 'I'nfinite Command RECEIVED Now, that's a scary thought. What if someone were to break the mirror? Then we both would go to pieces! Or would we both multiply, since each individual piece of a mirror is, in itself, a mirror? If so, then there would be more of us in the world.... +++Gravebuster Message # 1050. Reply to #1049 Date: 09/06/93. Time: 15:19:23. Read 21 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : The 'I'nfinite Command RECEIVED too late... #1050. Message # 1051. Reply to #1050 Date: 09/06/93. Time: 20:08:24. Read 20 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Music Man Subj : The 'I'nfinite Command RECEIVED For the world? +++Gravebuster Message # 1052. Reply to #1045 Date: 09/07/93. Time: 00:17:49. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : Obfuscation RECEIVED I LIKE TO DO IT ORTHAGONALLY. C- - - Message # 1053. Reply to #1052 Date: 09/07/93. Time: 01:58:43. Read 15 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : Obfuscation RECEIVED Go with that....! Stranger Message # 1054. Reply to #1051 Date: 09/07/93. Time: 11:11:53. Read 19 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : The 'I'nfinite Command RECEIVED No, for us... Message # 1055. Date: 09/07/93. Time: 15:00:27. Read 18 Times. From : The Music Man To : all Subj : defusion is profusion the opposite of confusion? Message # 1056. Date: 09/08/93. Time: 03:01:56. Read 16 Times. From : Stranger To : OLL Subj : BARECAM Bay, om I barec. I hoge beint barec. Ig reolly sudks, in ghe masg emphogid woy I don express. Bloh. Is Abfusdogian ceoc? I hape nag, bug wha reolly knaws? I can'g knaw, caes he? Why om I osking myself quesgians? Hella? Sgronter Message # 1057. Reply to #1054 Date: 09/08/93. Time: 03:29:14. Read 20 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Music Man Subj : The 'I'nfinite Command RECEIVED Oh.... +++Gravebuster Message # 1058. Reply to #844 Date: 09/09/93. Time: 02:50:58. Read 19 Times. From : Stranger To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : RECEIVED What's a newfuscate? Stranger ><-ile Message # 1059. Reply to #845 Date: 09/09/93. Time: 02:51:18. Read 19 Times. From : Stranger To : Whomever Subj : Music Man is in love with you. Whomever. I hope you appreciate him. Stranger Message # 1060. Reply to #846 Date: 09/09/93. Time: 02:52:02. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : Gravebuster Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Penguins and ostriches are just different sides of the same avian coin. Stranger #1060. Message # 1061. Date: 09/09/93. Time: 03:00:40. Read 16 Times. From : Stranger To : acksters Subj : normally downtrodden the flow stops liquidly lemon yellow sole food only swims away so fish up and spit today is the last day Stranger Message # 1062. Date: 09/10/93. Time: 01:53:42. Read 22 Times. From : THE BELL CAPTAIN To : All Subj : Obfuscation Obfuscation is dead. Long live Obfuscation. The Bell Captain Message # 1063. Reply to #1047 Date: 09/10/93. Time: 16:00:29. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two To : The Music Man Subj : Obfuscation RECEIVED If we, as a race, forget how to Obfuscate, then perhaps we are too sick to save. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1064. Reply to #1062 Date: 09/10/93. Time: 16:02:50. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two To : THE BELL CAPTAIN Subj : Obfuscation I thought you had got of off Drugs........ Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1065. Date: 09/11/93. Time: 04:16:03. Read 22 Times. From : Stranger To : Hack Man, et al Subj : OBFUSCATRICK I have an idea ofr a new obfuscatronix. It, like my last idea, is from the Internet MU**s. It would be an if/then kind of thingy, and a random number thingy together. @swi [rand(3)] = 3, {@emit Blah}; 2, {@emit Ack}; 1, {@emit Doink!}; {@emit Default} now, to explain it. 1. @swi : would start the if/then thingy 2. [rand(3)] : would generate a random number from 3 to 0. 3. = : thenm the effects. These could be messages @emitted to the screen, or any other obfuscatrix wanted the last one is the default, which happens if none of the other parameters are fulfilled. (In this case, it would trigger if the random num generated was a 0.) Stranger It would be really useful to create cool obfuscatory messages, based on random numbers. It could be modified to accept functions other than [rand(#)], such as [v(#)]. (which would call from a list of V registers.) Complicated, but DOINK! would it be cool.... Message # 1066. Reply to #1007 Date: 09/13/93. Time: 02:27:47. Read 22 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : The Music Man Subj : Names and such RECEIVED I thought that EVERYONE gnew that you were candy.... Message # 1067. Reply to #1066 Date: 09/14/93. Time: 01:54:42. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : Names and such RECEIVED OH, TMM is the love of my life ??!! Oh, life no longer has any meaning USER COMMITTED SUICIDE Comments : HAHAHA=2 Message # 1068. Reply to #1058 Date: 09/16/93. Time: 12:46:55. Read 16 Times. From : The Music Man To : Stranger Subj : RECEIVED They are upstarts who create fuscation and call it obfuscation, and do not in fact have the faintest idea what obfuscation really is. As a result, true obfuscates (who are often so obfuscated that they don't notice the difference) are often dilluding themselves into thinking that these upstarts are actually obfuscating, and in an attempt to do what obfuscates do, they make them into newfuscates, who are never really obfuscates anyway, but think they are. It's nothing but the fuscated and the obfuscates getting caught up in a swirl of obfuscation and finding themselves unable to differentiate between each other. The newfuscates gnow who they are, however, and keep a low profile so the obfuscates don't notice... Message # 1069. Reply to #1059 Date: 09/16/93. Time: 12:52:15. Read 14 Times. From : The Music Man To : Stranger Subj : RECEIVED SSHHHHH!!!!! Womever is not supposed to gnow that!! Message # 1070. Reply to #1062 Date: 09/16/93. Time: 12:53:42. Read 15 Times. From : The Music Man To : THE BELL CAPTAIN Subj : Obfuscation Shuddup! #1070. Message # 1071. Reply to #1063 Date: 09/16/93. Time: 12:53:55. Read 13 Times. From : The Music Man To : Number Two Subj : Obfuscation RECEIVED Why would anybody want to save us? Except maybe on a plaque, to hang on their walls as a decoration... s. Message # 1072. Reply to #1066 Date: 09/16/93. Time: 12:55:46. Read 14 Times. From : The Music Man To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : Names and such RECEIVED They did as soon as I told them, but that was not on the gnome's... . Message # 1073. Reply to #1067 Date: 09/16/93. Time: 12:56:42. Read 15 Times. From : The Music Man To : Number Two Subj : Names and such RECEIVED Thank you, I love you too! Message # 1074. Reply to #1068 Date: 09/17/93. Time: 02:56:00. Read 14 Times. From : Stranger To : The Music Man Subj : RECEIVED What's a newfuscate? Stranger Message # 1075. Date: 09/17/93. Time: 03:51:16. Read 14 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : Ack, man RECEIVED Are you going to reply to my idea about the new obfuscatrick, or just leave me hanging? Stranger Message # 1076. Date: 09/17/93. Time: 03:52:01. Read 12 Times. From : Stranger To : er.... Subj : uh.... B L a H S trang er Message # 1077. Reply to #1074 Date: 09/17/93. Time: 12:50:14. Read 18 Times. From : The Music Man To : Stranger Subj : RECEIVED What's an obfuscate? Message # 1078. Reply to #1075 Date: 09/17/93. Time: 12:50:28. Read 14 Times. From : The Music Man To : Stranger Subj : Ack, man RECEIVED Hang, baby, hang! Message # 1079. Date: 09/17/93. Time: 11:04:31. Read 14 Times. From : The Music Man To : HACK MAN Subj : My side o' the old story... RECEIVED I'm not saying that you don't consider the opinion of others, I'm just saying that it is ultimately your choice, unless people whine enough. Don't forget, I have a perspective you don't. I see the changes in a way that the rest of us do that don't call for long periods at a time, and then get all caught up. I get to sit back and watch it all happen without being caught up in any of it, and in case you had not noticed, I start calling every time there is a vote on the floor. But then, I don't think you notice the NO votes, only the YES ones. I wouldn't expect you to see the connection between what happened on the board and my absence from calling, but a big part of it has to do with the nature of the last private message I sent to you! I don't wanna make waves, so I'll stop bitching about obfuscation... MOVED FROM "Ye Olde Obfuscatoreum" BY HACK MAN ON 09/17/93 AT 12:53:59 Message # 1080. Reply to #1075 Date: 09/17/93. Time: 18:05:20. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : Ack, man RECEIVED YEAH, I WILL ONE OF THESE DAYS. C- - - #1080. Message # 1081. Reply to #1077 Date: 09/17/93. Time: 18:05:39. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Music Man Subj : RECEIVED WHAT'S A SCATE? C- - - Message # 1082. Reply to #1077 Date: 09/17/93. Time: 18:34:44. Read 14 Times. From : Stranger To : The Music Man Subj : RECEIVED Another illusion. Stranger Message # 1083. Reply to #1078 Date: 09/17/93. Time: 18:34:58. Read 15 Times. From : Stranger To : The Music Man Subj : Ack, man RECEIVED That's getting kind of personal.... Stranger Message # 1084. Reply to #1068 Date: 09/18/93. Time: 12:32:23. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two To : The Music Man Subj : RECEIVED Do you know who they are ?? There are only a small group of new obfuscates, and you used the plural, so either Stranger, Arwen, or myself are newfuscates, right ?? Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1085. Reply to #1081 Date: 09/18/93. Time: 13:52:35. Read 13 Times. From : The Music Man To : HACK MAN Subj : RECEIVED Clarity. Message # 1086. Reply to #1082 Date: 09/18/93. Time: 13:52:45. Read 12 Times. From : The Music Man To : Stranger Subj : RECEIVED Just as I imagined! Message # 1087. Reply to #1084 Date: 09/18/93. Time: 13:53:30. Read 18 Times. From : The Music Man To : Number Two Subj : RECEIVED I guess I should have clarified. I wanted YOU to be an obfuscate, for one thing. And I am referring to additions prior to those you mention. Did I not vote for each of you? I thought I did. I am referring to a completely different era, but I'll drop the subject lest I offend anybody else I might not be talking about. Message # 1088. Reply to #1087 Date: 09/18/93. Time: 15:48:57. Read 18 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : The Music Man Subj : RECEIVED I know you didn't think I should be an obfuscate, but I don't really care what you think on this regard because Hack Man is the one who decides. I remember the night clearly... Sitting around Eric's Parents pool table playing AD&D. Anyway, why let a stupid BBS "club" get in the way of things that matter, like friendship, understanding, knowledge, and peace of mind? Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym p.s. Any of you ever heard of DMAE? Message # 1089. Reply to #1087 Date: 09/19/93. Time: 12:21:14. Read 14 Times. From : Number Two To : The Music Man Subj : RECEIVED Actually, I should apologize. I was feeling a bit testy when I posted that (because of a certain female who calls here) and it came out in my post. WhatI really wanted to say was which people are you referring to ?? I had no idea that anyone other than Racer >< opposed or had hard feelings towrds certain new obfuscates (newfuscates). I was curious, but should have waited until my head was clear to have posted. Sorry.... Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1090. Reply to #1088 Date: 09/20/93. Time: 00:01:37. Read 19 Times. From : The Music Man To : Mynk Lynx Subj : RECEIVED Thank you for helping me make my point. Hack man makes all the decisions, ultimately. That's my only point. I accept what is. #1090. Message # 1091. Reply to #1089 Date: 09/20/93. Time: 00:02:42. Read 21 Times. From : The Music Man To : Number Two Subj : RECEIVED There are a few, and they know who they are. I need not keep voting against them. Hack Man appointed them. I accept the powers that be... Message # 1092. Date: 09/20/93. Time: 02:08:50. Read 23 Times. From : Stranger To : Whomever Subj : a simple reminder Lemniscation goes on forever and ever. Stranger Message # 1093. Reply to #1084 Date: 09/20/93. Time: 09:12:36. Read 27 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Number Two Subj : RECEIVED NO, TMM'S AN OLDFUSCATE. HE'S NO LONGER SEES THE WEIRDNESS OF CREATION, THAT MEANS HE'S LOST THE ABILITY TO A OBFUSCATE IN NEW UNPREDICTABLE DIRECTIONS. WE MUST RELY ON THE NEW BLOOD TO KEEP US FRESH AND FRUITFUL. C- - - Message # 1094. Reply to #1087 Date: 09/20/93. Time: 09:41:05. Read 27 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Music Man Subj : RECEIVED OK, I HAVE CONFIRMED BY FEELINGS AND SUSPICIONS (THAT'S THE REASON WHY I MOVED THAT ONE MESSAGE HERE SO IT WOULD REMIND ME) AND HERE'S MY FINDINGS. YOU HAVE NEVER VOTED FOR ANY OBFUSCATES. YOU'RE JUST NOT THE VOTING TYPE I GUESS. ARWEN AND STRANGER WERE BOTH ADMITTED AT THE SAME TIME (AROUND MESSAGE #780) AND YOU DID NOT VOTE. PERHAPS YOU WERE ON ANOTHER OF YOUR YEARS LONG ABSENCES. IN WHICH CASE YOUR ABSENCE IS NOBODIES FAULT BUT YOUR OWN AND YOU CAN'T EXPECT US TO STOP THE WORLD UNTIL YOU CALL BACK AGAIN. AS FOR NUMBER TWO, IN MESSAGE #576 YOU NOMINATED HIM, AND THEN YOU POSTED THIS MESSAGE. Message # 591. Date: 01/17/92. Time: 15:30:52. Read 24 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Whomever Subj : New Obfuscates Return=skip, Spacebar=abort, Tab=pause I'd say that there is a clear majority vote for #2, so I'd like to urge the Doink to make any necessary access changes. Also, does anybody know where my cerebellum is, I seem to have misplaced it. SO, I HAVE YOU ON A TECHNICALITY! YOU NEVER VOTED FOR #2 EITHER, YOU JUST NOMINATED HIM! NEENER! SO, FIND ME A MESSAGE ANYWHERE THAT SAYS THAT YOU VOTED FOR OR AGAINST ANYBODY AND I'LL EAT IT. C- - - Comments : OUCH!=1 Message # 1095. Reply to #1088 Date: 09/20/93. Time: 09:50:01. Read 24 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Mynk Lynx Subj : RECEIVED NOPE, WHAT'S THAT? C- - - Message # 1097. Reply to #1091 Date: 09/20/93. Time: 09:51:35. Read 24 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Music Man Subj : RECEIVED YES, BECAUSE AT THE TIME THAT I APPOINTED THOSE PEOPLE THERE WERE NO ACTIVE OBFUSCATES OTHER THAN ME AND LYNX (I THINK) (ME AND SOMEBODY ELSE) AND SOMETHING NEEDED TO BE DONE ABOUT IT. C- - - Message # 1098. Date: 09/20/93. Time: 10:16:31. Read 25 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : MORE RESEARCH. OK, I DID SOME MORE RESEARCH. HERE ARE THE TWO PEOPLE WHOM I APPOINTED UNILATERALLY DURING A LONG PERIOD OF RELATIVE OBFUSCATE INACTIVITY. FROM THE OBFUSCATORIUM. Message # 2113. Date: 02/23/91. Time: 00:38:53. Read 23 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : WARTIME MOBILIZATION WELL IN LIGHT OF LATEST MATTERS I'VE DECIDED TO DECLARE MARTIAL LAW HERE AT HACK'S RETREAT, AND UNDER THE OBFUSCATE WAR POWERS ACT I'VE DECIDED TO MAKE NEW APPOINTMENTS IN AN EFFORT TO BOLSTER THE SAGGING MORALE. I HEREBY PROMOTE UNKA BUCK TO THE RANK OF OBFUSCATE AND ASSIGN HIM TO THE POST OF PROPOGANDA QUALITY CONTROL. I ALSO HEREBY PROMOTE GRAVEBUSTER TO OBFUSCATE AND ASSIGN TO HIM THE DUTIES OF CHAIRMAN OF THE FOOLISH PREDICTIONS DEPARTMENT. C- - - I THINK I DID A DECENT JOB THERE. Message # 1099. Date: 09/20/93. Time: 10:19:09. Read 26 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : HERE IS THE ONLY OTHER POST I COULD FIND NAMING NEW OBFUSCATES. FROM THE OBFUSCATORIUM Message # 1085. Date: 09/09/89. Time: 03:40:45. Read 31 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : NEW OBFUSCATES I'D LIKE TO WELCOME LYNX, PEGGY, RACER X, AND YELLOWBEARD INTO THE RANKS OF THE NEW OBFUSCATES FORMALLY. THESE MEMBERS HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED AND APPROVED BY THE MUSIC MAN AND MYSELF. I FEEL THAT LORD CIRDAN AND TASSLEHOFF (THE OTHER TWO REMAINING REGULARLY CALLING OBFUSCATE-DILLUSIONIST) WOULD AGREE. ALSO, IF THERE ARE ANY FURTHER NOMINATIONS LET ME GNOW. A NEW USER LEVEL OF 15000 HAS BEEN CREATED FOR OBFUSCATE DILLUSIONISTS. ALL OF THE NEW OBFUSCATES HAVE NOW BEEN REGISTERED IN THE COMPUTER AND BEEN GIVEN A 10000 ACCESS. THAT MEANS THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE SECRET VT100 CODES, AND A FEW OTHER THINGS. I ALSO CHANGED THEIR ACCESS FROM XPERT BACK TO REGULAR SO THAT THEY WOULD NOTICE THE NEW MENU OPTIONS MORE READILY. YOU CAN CHANGE IT RIGHT BACK AGAIN IF YOU WANT. ALSO THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN READ ONLY ACCESS TO THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION. I AM WILLING TO CHANGE THIS TO READ/WRITE ACCESS DEPENDING ON WHAT THE OTHER OBFUSCATE-DILLUSIONISTS SAY. DOINK. C- - - P.S. SO, I GUESS I WAS WRONG TMM DID APPROVE LYNX, PEGGY, RACER X, AND YELLOWBEARD. I'LL BE CHOWING DOWN ON THIS MESSAGE SOON. Message # 1100. Date: 09/20/93. Time: 10:26:15. Read 36 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : NEW "RULES" FOR APPROVING OBFUSCATES ALL PROSPECTIVE OBFUSCATES MUST BE FORMALLY NOMINATED WITH A MESSAGE POSTED ON THIS SUB. ALL OBFUSCATES CAN NOMINATE. AT LEAST 30 DAYS MUST TRANSPIRE BETWEEN FIRST NOMINATION AND FINAL APPROVAL. A NOMINEE MUST RECIEVE A 3/4THS MAJORITY TO BE APPROVED. ALL VOTES MUST BE POSTED ON THIS SUB BY THE PERSON WHO IS VOTING, AND MUST CONTAIN THE USER NAME THE WORD "VOTE" AND YES/NO/Q/OR PICARD. OTHERWISE THEY DON'T COUNT. ANY OBFUSCATE WHO HAS NOT LOGGED ON IN MORE THAN 100 DAYS IS CONSIDERED "INACTIVE" AND THEIR VOTE IS NOT NEEDED AND THEY DO NOT NEED TO BE NOTIFIED THAT THERE IS A VOTE AND THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO COMPLAIN AFTERWORDS. C- - - #1100. Message # 1101. Reply to #1093 Date: 09/20/93. Time: 11:24:41. Read 22 Times. From : The Music Man To : HACK MAN Subj : RECEIVED Yes, new blood!!!!! Let's drink it, and become fresh and fruitful!! Message # 1118. Reply to #1110 Date: 09/20/93. Time: 17:19:52. Read 31 Times. From : The Music Man To : HACK MAN Subj : RECEIVED I am aware of that, and it's not my gripe. My gripe is about the few time you DID NOT allow enough time for people to log on and vote. A few have made obfuscate within a few days of being nominated. I feel more time should have been given, and more votes should have been considered... Message # 1124. Reply to #1090 Date: 09/20/93. Time: 19:08:27. Read 30 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Music Man Subj : RECEIVED OK,