From "The Retreat" (805-483-3104): Subboard - "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" Message # 2. Date: 07/23/88. Time: 07:08:43. Read 39 Times. From : SYSOP To : ALL Subj : THIS BOARD PERMIFIED THIS BOARD IS JUST FOR YOU OBFUSCATES. NO ONE ELSE HAS ACCESS. SO, LET'S TALK ABOUT SOMETHING REALLY OBFUSCATIONARY. C- - - Message # 3. Date: 08/03/88. Time: 19:16:24. Read 51 Times. From : SYSOP To : ALL Subj : OPTIONS FOR OBFUSCATES PERMIFIED I HAVE PUT A COUPLE OF SPECIAL 'OBFUSCATE' OPTIONS ON THE MAIN MENU. "X" WILL GIVE YOU A LIST OF SECRET BULLETINS THAT ONLY OBFUSCATES CAN SEE. "Y" WILL ALLOW YOU TO ADD A QUOTE TO THE LIST OF LOGON QUOTES. ONLY OBFUSCATES CAN DO THIS. MORE WILL BE COMING IN THE FUTURE. C- - - Message # 4. Date: 08/06/88. Time: 09:29:49. Read 32 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : all Subj : test PERMIFIED Just going toattempting to do a little of this stuff ! ! ! Message # 5. Date: 08/08/88. Time: 15:55:18. Read 30 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : whomever Subj : Oh Wow! I'm Dilluded! Message # 6. Date: 08/08/88. Time: 00:48:56. Read 28 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : TMM Subj : concentration RECEIVED Better than being diluted. Although, I HAVE noticed your recent lack of concentration in some of the most basic mental functions lately. Including a, well, I seem to have forgotten at the moment. CI Message # 7. Reply to #6 Date: 08/08/88. Time: 06:47:29. Read 24 Times. From : SYSOP To : Cleric Ilsaram Subj : concentration RECEIVED WHAT WERE WE TALKING ABOUT ANYWAY???? C- - - Message # 8. Date: 08/08/24. Time: 18:03:53. Read 25 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : CI Subj : concentration Something Violet! I think. (NO I DONT!) Yes I do!!! (Only when you feel like it!) Prove it! (Only if I feel like it) Do you? (NO!) Then piss off! (Show me the toilet) Open your mouth! (Ugh ergh mugga ouk) Never mind... Message # 9. Date: 08/205/8. Time: 15:04:52. Read 27 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : God Subj : Now this, I gotta try. You went and changed them? How cruel. I guess the Gnomish tricks were too wide- spred, anyway. I guess? Huh? Who's talking? Don't repeat me. Oh yeah! That's right! I'm typing this, aren't I? What a concept! Don't you guys feel a little bit bugged that BBS's constantly repeat what you type? Stop that! Shut up! I hate that! My brother used to do that to me when i was a little kid! Quit it! I'll tell mom! Waaaah! I can't hear you.. I can't hear you! You're not bothering me. Go ahead and repeat me, I'm not listening. No. Well, now that I've established that it's REALLY not bother- ing me, I want to ask you guys if I can join the 3 PM club. (Even if it IS past 3 PM.) My favorite time of day is approaching. 3:14. It is so much like pi. You guys are losing out, think- ing that 8-8-88 is powerful. Just you wait un- til 3:14 on 3-14. And, better yet, you can wait 3,366 years, (a very powerful num- ber. Two double figures one of them double the other. There's something cosmic there.) then we'll see 3:14 15.9 seconds, on 2-6-5358. (well, not really 3,366 years, unless it's some other time, which it is.) Oop! Gotta go! Taking up too much access time again! I'll BCNUL8r. !!!!!!!!! G!!! GA !!! GAV!!! GAVISCON !!!.l No, that didn't work. !/-\!/-/ex .l Message # 10. Date: 08/17/89. Time: 03:17:07. Read 35 Times. From : SYSOP To : ALL Subj : NEW OBFUSCATE! PERMIFIED I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THE ADDITION OF A NEW OBFUSCATE TO OUR RANKS. HIS NAME IS ÈTASSLEHOFF BURRFOOT! IM SURE THAT HE WILL BE A VALUABLE CONTRIBUTION FROM NOW ON! SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER HIM FROM THE OLD GNOME'S CASTLE DAYS. BYE THE WAY, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE NEVER ON THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION OF THE OLD GNOMES CASTLE. THIS BOARD WAS TRADITIONALLY THE TRUE "ELITE" BOARD IN THE COUNTY. BY THAT I MEAN THIS IS THE BOARD WHERE THE TRULY INTELLIGENT STUFF HAPPENED. ALSO THIS WAS THE BOARD WERE THE MOST INSANE THINGS HAPPENED. I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE THAT WAY AGAIN. PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TRULY INSANE, OR INTELLIGENT, OR INSANELY INTELLIGENT TO SAY, SAY IT HERE. I HAVE DREDGED UP A LOT MORE STUFF FROM THE OLD GNOMES CASTLE THAT I WILL POST. I WILL POST SEVERAL THINGS FROM THE OLD TEMPLE SO THAT YOU CAN KINDA GET THE IDEA. IN FACT I WOULD DO IT TONIGHT BUT I AM KINDA TIRED. OKCUL8R C- - - Comments : OBFUSCATED=49857 HUH?=50371 DOINK=50885 WHO CARES=51399 BRAVO!=51913 #10. Message # 11. Date: 08/17/89. Time: 05:46:24. Read 26 Times. From : SYSOP To : ALL Subj : GUESS WHAT PERMIFIED AS IT TURNS OUT I'M NOT TIRED AFTER ALL. IN FACT, I CAN'T GET TO SLEEP. HOW BORING. AT LEAST I HAVE A BBS TO TYPE AT. AT LEAST THE HACKMODEM WILL TALK BACK AT ME AT TEN TO 6AM. HEY GAV, YOU CAN JOIN THE 3AM CLUB JUST AS LONG AS YOU LEAVE A MESSAGE AT EXACTLY PI AM. THE ONLY CATCH IS, YOU HAVE TO SOLVE PI TO THE LAST DIGIT SO THAT YOU CAN FIND OUT JUST EXACTLY WHEN PI-AM IS. NYUCK NYUCK. C- - - Comments : OBFUSCATED=49857 HUH?=50371 DOINK=50885 WHO CARES=51399 BRAVO!=51913 Message # 12. Date: 08/17/08. Time: 15:58:54. Read 25 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : whomever Subj : pi am PERMIFIED PI am is easy, first use pi to figure out the circumpherence of your clock, then divide your result by the ratio of the length of the big hand to the little hand, then multiply that by the area of the second hand rounded off to the nearest square nanometer. Now divide the result by the volume of the clock, and you'll have an exact time to log onto the 3 am club. If that doesn't work, give up. Nothing happens there anyway! -TMM Message # 13. Date: 08/17/08. Time: 19:37:29. Read 22 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : TMM Subj : clocks RECEIVED PERMIFIED You fool! Multiply by the volume of the clock, then subtract the result from itself, then add 42! It worked for me2..........2..... CI Message # 14. Date: 08/18/88. Time: 14:12:50. Read 23 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : whomever Subj : pi PERMIFIED Here's pi: pi 1 1 1 1 1 1 -- = - -- +- -- +- -- +..... 4 1 3 5 7 9 11 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406.... Also, pi over four equals four times the tangent to the negative one power times one half plus the quantity of tangent to the negative one times one over three. or Pi over four equals the quantity of four times the tangent to the negative one power times one fifth subtracted from the quantity of tangent to the negative one times one over two hundred thirty nine. Any of these will help you figure out pi to as many places as you want. (continued) ....28620899862803482534211706798214808651328230664709384460955058223172535.... There's pi to as many places as I have it recorded, anyone know of more? THE MUSIC MAN Message # 15. Date: 08/18/88. Time: 14:52:19. Read 23 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : TMM Subj : pi RECEIVED PERMIFIED I've memorized it past that... At one time. Unfortunately, I've slipped, and now I've only memorized it a few digits past the hundreath... One of these daze, I review it a again, and I'll gnow it to 147 places, like I used to... But, as the pi guy, I can tell you 206 digits: (some of you may want to skip to the next message at this point.) pi=3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406- 286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359- 40812848111745028410270193852110555964462294895493038196442881... Actually, it's 205 digits, not counting the decimal place, I think. I can also get a book froma math teacher I once had that has pi to 10,000 places> So when school starts, I am going to photocopy it, and I can get as many places as you want, up to 10,000. I suprized myself! I could type up to 124 digits before I had to look at the sheet. I think I'll go memorize a few more... BCNUL8r. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- /exx /eex /extra space in Hack's drive. Message # 16. Date: 08/18/88. Time: 23:10:13. Read 20 Times. From : Tasslehoff Burfoot To : The rest of the gang... Subj : I don't supose. PERMIFIED Does anyone out there gnow anything about this new appearance of Lord Scum? Is it a cruel joke? Or is it memorex?? What shall be done? Who is to blame? And why has that person stuck terror into the hearts of the Users? Why? Who? This deserves a nice discusion... And persicution... >The Tazz< "Just the fact's mam.." - George Bush Message # 17. Date: 08/19/88. Time: 10:52:40. Read 20 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : gav Subj : PI PERMIFIED I see that you are as addicted to pi as am I. more so even. I joined PMA (Pi Memorizers Anonymous) and kicked the habit. Now I only have it memorized to 20, but if I'm not careful, I memorize more, and get close to going crazy as a result. I would love to have it recorded to 10,000 places though. If yu have the time and patience, type in as many as possible. We could even have it listed under the obfuscates bulletins as "pi". woudln't that be nice. Then all could share in the delight of seeing the worlds most misunderstood and misquoted numberin existance. And we'll dedicate it to you, the PI GUY ! -TMM (or you could join PMS, the Pi memorizers society, that wouldn't be a bad idea for a sub-board!) Message # 18. Date: 08/19/88. Time: 19:21:09. Read 51 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : TMM Subj : sub-board RECEIVED PERMIFIED That is a terrible idea!!!! Why not the CI board, instead?? CI told you so Message # 19. Date: 08/20/88. Time: 02:02:30. Read 31 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : CI Subj : ci PERMIFIED yeah, but to how many places do you have Ci memorized to? Message # 20. Date: 08/20/88. Time: 18:24:34. Read 31 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : uh.... I dunno. Subj : ci, pi, or di PERMIFIED I found the book at B. Dalton the other day (You can call me "Books") in which it was recorded to 10,000, back in the science and techinology section. It is called "The history of Pi." (Sounds boring) In two pages, they showed 10,000 places. I wish I could just buy those two pages. But, with my negative cash flow, I can't afford to spend $11.95 on it right now, so wait until our school system drags us back into the classrooms, and I'll have that posted. (This BBS CAN handle 10K, can't it?) Maybe it would be a better idea to Upload it. That is, in case there is someone out there who can't skip to the next message for some reason, and they have to wait through 10,000 numbers. Hm. Maybe it could be fun. I wonder what kind of insults I'd get from outraged users if I did it on the Tavern sub-board? I only havee CI written out to 13 places... Sorry. You'll have to go out and buy the book: "The History of Pi." !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- ___/ ___/ /| | The "Pi Guy" /| | | |/ | |/ Mr. Shuester, the Buena physics teacher, did the same thing as a kid. He had to limit it to 20 digits, too. The Tazz< A formal complaint, by any other name. Message # 55. Date: 11/13/88. Time: 16:57:06. Read 25 Times. From : GOD To : All Subj : Me PERMIFIED GOD has spoken. Heed his words. ^^^ GOD ^^^ Message # 56. Reply to #55 Date: 11/14/88. Time: 00:14:08. Read 25 Times. From : SYSOP To : GOD Subj : Me RECEIVED PERMIFIED SAY, GOD. WHAT'S NEW? IS THIS A LOCAL CALL FROM WHERE YOU ARE? C- - - Message # 57. Date: 11/26/88. Time: 10:10:48. Read 26 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : GOD Subj : ? RECEIVED You had better be nice, and act accordingly, otherwise I may decide to stop believing in you and, as a result, you will most likely cease to exist! Besides, there are enough gods here already, and you are probably cramping the style of some of them! Don't you gnow that you don't belong here??? This is the temple, the HOLY TEMPLE OF DILLUSION!!!! And no mere mono- theistic entities are allowed to reside here without expressed consent of the SYSOP!! Now GO AWAY!! You're not wanted here!! Nobody likes you, everybody hates you, why don't you eat a worm ?!?!?!?! -TMM (I like to tread on narrow ground, that's all! Me and him go WAY back!!) Message # 58. Date: 12/03/88. Time: 14:10:24. Read 24 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : God Subj : Sorry RECEIVED I forgot you were the sub-op! (It's ok, nobody reads anything here anyway, including you!) Message # 59. Reply to #58 Date: 12/03/88. Time: 18:03:33. Read 24 Times. From : GOD To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Sorry RECEIVED Well, if you cease believing in me means that I will cease to exist, then I surely have ceased to exist due to your ceasure of thinking, which results in a similar ceasure of believing. Fortunately many others still think, thus I am alive and well up here. And to answer your question, Ray, yes, all calls are local to me. I exist everywhere, and all of the time. (Sort of like Santa Claus on Christmas night.) And one finnal word of advise to The Music Man: If you had ate as many worms as I have, then you'd know what kind of insult that was. We're very displeased with you up here. Just hope the devil finds out that you are dead at least a half an hour after you are up here... ^^^ GOD ^^^ Message # 60. Reply to #59 Date: 12/31/77. Time: 15:39:51. Read 23 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : GOD Subj : Sorry RECEIVED You don't exist, so stop thinking. CI #60. Message # 61. Date: 12/04/88. Time: 13:31:16. Read 27 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : DEAR GOD Subj : To You Actually, me and the devil are considering starting up a franchise down here in Oxnard (HA HA, just kidding, a little holy humor there!) It seems to me that if I stopped believing on you, being that your just a figment of our imagination, then you would cease to continue to exist pertaining to me, but not necessarily to others, which brings up an interesting point... If you exist to somebody else, and not to me, then if they pray for something, and I am somehow involved, then how would you answer the prayer?? Could it be possible that I have the ability to stump God???? And say, just for hypothetical consideration, that I didn't believe in you, but you believed in me. Afterall, if you DO exist reguardless of what I think, then your believing in my existence (which is evident) and your not existing, should I choose to believe that you don't, would then give me power over you! In light of all believed, and as the sum total of accepted or believed existence, I would have a stronger existence than would you!! If I believe I exist, and you believe I exist. And I believe you don't exist, and you believe you exist, then that would score, for existence: God: 1 TMM: 2 Therefore, I would have a higher probability of existing, inductively speaking. Now, if I apply these figures to the large amount of people that believe that you don't exist, whome yuo believe exist (for, afterall, YOU created them, right?), then the way I look at it, you have been believed right out of existence!!! My final guesstimate would be: God: 1 Human Race: 1,000,000 (approximately) Just think, you believe in all these people more than they believe in you. The human race has a higher chance of existing thatn do you. Of course, this only applies when considering that you exist. Is this a paradox, or a case of begging the answer??? Either way, it doesn't matter! I exist! -TMM (I dare you to prove otherwise, if you can, then I'LL eat the worm!!!!!!!) Message # 62. Date: 12/04/88. Time: 13:45:34. Read 27 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : ALL * Subj : PARTY *(Dillusionists, obfuscates, 3am club members, and anarchists) Friday night. At whatever time. At whoever's house. We're getting together for a party. Don't forget!!!!! -TMM Or whatever.... Message # 63. Date: 12/06/88. Time: 20:48:09. Read 24 Times. From : Tasslehoff Burfoot To : ALL * Subj : Details Details, we need details! Spill the beans, empty the coffee cans, we want to gnow! (And soon too!) >The Tazz< - Patiently waiting. Patiently! Message # 64. Reply to #61 Date: 12/07/88. Time: 03:18:12. Read 23 Times. From : SYSOP To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : To You RECEIVED I ATE THE WORM A COUPLE OF TIMES. IT WAS GROSS AND I WAS DISSAPOINTED. C- - - Message # 65. Date: 12/07/88. Time: 03:18:57. Read 25 Times. From : SYSOP To : ALL Subj : DILLUSIONIST PARTY HEY CI? CAN YOU GO ON FRIDAY? WHERE DO YOU WANT TO DO IT? IS YOUR HOUSE AVAILABLE? TAZZ HAS VOLUNTEERED HIS HOUSE IF YOUR'S IS NOT AVAILABLE. HEY LC, ARE YOU OUT THERE? C- - - Message # 66. Date: 12/08/88. Time: 03:09:51. Read 23 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : whomever Subj : Party We cannot make definite plans too far in advance, or it is highly probable that they will not be carried out. Afinite plans are fine for now, but we must avoid infinite plans. We will keep our plans as finite as possible, until otherwise defined. Message # 67. Date: 12/09/88. Time: 17:25:42. Read 23 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : whomever Subj : party time... Now can we make plans? Message # 68. Date: 12/13/88. Time: 03:33:54. Read 24 Times. From : SYSOP To : ALL Subj : HEY! THIS BOARD SHOULD BE USED! THAT IS MY OPINION. ONLY OBFUSCATES HAVE ACCESS TO THIS BOARD. DOESN'T THAT SOUND LIKE A SPECIAL THING TO YOU? WELL, MAYBE NOT. MAYBE SOME CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE. PLEASE TELL ME YOUR OPINIONS. ONE THING WE OBVIOUSLY NEED IS MORE OBFUSCATES (WHICH MEANS THAT WE NEED MORE USERS!) HOW CAN WE DO THAT? I NEED INPUT!!!! C- - - Message # 69. Date: 12/13/88. Time: 16:37:24. Read 24 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : SYSOP Subj : WHat do we need? RECEIVED I think the existance of an Obfuscatorium and a Temple of Dillusion is a bit redundant. Even for a certified Obfuscate, it's a bit difficult to post the difference, or anything whatever huh? Oh no! My alligator speech is starting duflop to singe deteriorate October complication bear watch saunter agropho- bia. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. Message # 70. Date: 12/13/88. Time: 22:25:32. Read 26 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : dillusionarium Subj : Dill pickles! I think nothing is a probable as a non-existent protosphere of transluscent micro-electronic bit. Still, this place will be no different that the name of the sub-op if it continues to be as such. Nothing is as important as everything under the sun, but that which is over the sun tends to be left out, unless it is right out, in which case it is nothing, which is as important as everything under the sun, which is only a relative approximation of the existence of material objects at one time or another. If not one time, then another, unless otherwise indicated with express written consent of those who feel themselves irrelevant to the position of the sun, given that they do exist, and are material objects as far as non-existen protospheres of transluscent micro-electronic bits are concerned, unpon which nothing is more probable, unless it happens to be something, in which case in holds greter probability within itself due to its own existence, unless it is non-existent, like the sub-op, who neither cares nor has the ability to. This alone is appropriate proof for the existence of the Dill Pickle. As for this sub-board, can it! -TMM (Actually, I kind of like it, even though nobody else does) #70. Message # 71. Reply to #70 Date: 12/14/88. Time: 14:12:40. Read 25 Times. From : SYSOP To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Dill pickles! RECEIVED I'D RATER CAN THE OBFUSCATORIUM. C- - - Message # 72. Date: 12/14/88. Time: 16:36:16. Read 25 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : THe Obfusactorium Fine. Can the Obfuscatorium... When concidering space, there is no "up", or "down", or "east", or "west", or any other direction, and therefore what, exactly, IS "under the sun"? And everything under the sun could be everything or nothing, or anything in between, or anything past either end. Therefore, when somebody refers to "everything under the sun" then you can interpret that to mean anything that you wish, and any sifficiently disillusioned individual can find a good way to make a few bucks off of someone that way... !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. Message # 73. Date: 12/15/88. Time: 01:23:09. Read 22 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : Sysop Subj : hey RECEIVED Keep the Obfuscatorium. Consider it a place where people can prove their worth to get into here. In the meantime, we all must contribute to make this a board worth getting into in the first place. Why don't you take some of the posts you have saved from GC and put them here, for public displa Give us something to remember just how disillusioned (so to type/speak/write/blab) it use to be. CI Just a couple?? Message # 74. Date: 12/15/88. Time: 17:55:23. Read 23 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : CI Subj : Good Idea... Remember Lex Luther (That dillusioned (not as in pickle (which would be sweet, (not sour)) type of guy) and his 4 continous messages (on Gnome's Castle (the old one (as opposed to just plain (as opposed to plaid))) full of those things that I can't spell? (Starts with a P!) Boy! That started a fad that still has not stopped! !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. Message # 75. Reply to #71 Date: 12/16/88. Time: 14:24:03. Read 21 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : SYSOP Subj : Dill pickles! RECEIVED I'd rather agree! Message # 76. Reply to #74 Date: 12/16/88. Time: 14:25:53. Read 21 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Good Idea... RECEIVED Everything under the sun, as I mentioned, is relative. Being a relative is relative to who the rest of the relatives are relative to your relation to them, relatively speaking. It seems, therefore, that relatives are under the sun, depending upon whoes relative that is, which is relative, but relative to their relative position relative to the sun, then relatively speaking they can be under it, relative to those who are over it, or consider themselves such, until their relative position changes, or the death of a relative occurs. In either case, dill pickles still exist, and so should kumquats. Message # 77. Reply to #72 Date: 12/17/88. Time: 20:48:14. Read 23 Times. From : SYSOP To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : THe Obfusactorium RECEIVED MAYBE THEY MEAN WHAT YOU WOULD FIND IF YOU LIFTED UP THE SON AND LOOKED WHERE IT USED TO BE? OR MAYBE THEY MEAN UNDER THE SURFACE OF THE SON. MAYBE THAT IS WHERE ALL THE COAT HANGERS GO? C- - - Message # 78. Reply to #73 Date: 12/17/88. Time: 20:49:30. Read 19 Times. From : SYSOP To : Cleric Ilsaram Subj : hey RECEIVED OK. ILL DO THAT. C- - - Message # 79. Date: 12/17/88. Time: 20:51:12. Read 18 Times. From : SYSOP To : ALL Subj : I'M GOING ON A TRIP SOON. I'LL BE TRAVELLING IN MY STEALTH WINNEBAGO. EVADING ALL POLICE RADAR. INDETECTABLE BY AIR SURVELLANCE. PASSING STRAIGHT THROUGH TOLL BOOTHS. HITCH- HIKERS WILL BE OBLIVIOUS TO MY WHEREABOUTS. I CAN PARK ALONG A RED CURB WITH NO PROBLEM. HANDICAPPED SPACES ARE MINE! SHE'LL BE STREAMLINED FOR SPEED, AND YOU CAN FORGET THE ANTI-SMOG EQUIPMENT! NEXT STOP FORT KNOX. C- - - Message # 80. Reply to #77 Date: 12/18/88. Time: 16:37:07. Read 19 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : SYSOP Subj : THe Obfusactorium RECEIVED But, as I said, a son is a realative, relative to who his father is, but the Sun IS relative, or is at least to whatever bodies may be above or below it, even if they are dead bodies, such as dead relatives, relative to whoes relative they are, if in fact they are somebodies relative, which could be anybody under the sun, which, relatively speaking, could be anywhere. If, relative to the sun, they are a son, relative to their relatives, then irrelevent to whoes relative they are, they must have at least some relative, or they wouldn't be anybodies son. This, however, does not prove anything about the existence of pickles, which do, exist that is, relative to the sun someplace (usually earth). This may be proof for the existence of kumquats though, except one small piece of information is missing, and that is, relatively speaking, the existence of a kumquat. This is a small problem though, and will soon be cleared up before lunchtime. #80. Message # 81. Date: 12/21/88. Time: 15:44:08. Read 18 Times. From : SYSOP To : Tasslehoff Burfoot Subj : I WONDER RECEIVED I HAVE A STRANGE PROBLEM. OLD THEATRE TICKET STUBS KEEP APPEARING IN MY PEN DRAWER. THAT'S STRANGE BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN PUT THEM THERE. I USUALLY THROW THEM AWAY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. FRANKLY I DON'T THINK THAT THEY ARE ALL MINE. (AT LEAST I DON'T REMEMBER GOING TO SEE JOHN WILKES BOOTH PERFORM) C- - - Message # 82. Reply to #81 Date: 12/22/88. Time: 08:51:32. Read 19 Times. From : Tasslehoff Burfoot To : SYSOP Subj : I WONDER RECEIVED That's strange.. Nothing more, but just plain strange. Hmm.. If it means anything to you, I've always been one to ssave all of my theater ticket stubs, and I do have this one place where I keep all of the old ones, perhaps it's been purged? I'll check up on this and see what's happened.... >The Tazz< Message # 83. Reply to #82 Date: 12/25/88. Time: 15:46:24. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Tasslehoff Burfoot Subj : I WONDER RECEIVED Well? Message # 84. Date: 12/25/88. Time: 19:42:15. Read 19 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Theatergoers Subj : Ticketstubs... Strange... I seem to collect ticketstubs, but I can never find them later. Then, they show up at the precise moment when they get in the way. (Like, when I'm cleaning up, and I can't figure out whether I should throw them away, or put them back where they clutter things up.) Tricky things, those ticket stubs. I'd say that they have a mind of there own... !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped with tickets. Message # 85. Reply to #84 Date: 12/26/88. Time: 17:31:34. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Ticketstubs... RECEIVED They have several mind of their own! How can you blame them, look at what they go through, I mean, the life of a ticket stub is not very glamourous! They are created and immediately get stuck to a couple other tickets, and rolled up with other tickets in a way which must be very cramped to them. They then get stuffed in stuffy boxed and are stored for a long period of time at which point they go insane. Eventually, they get their freedom, just to be torn in half and stuck in someones pocket. It's at that point that they are given the opportunity to associate with ball-point pens, and get some tips on kinetic disappearance. From here on, they will show up most anywhere. Being that they have been ripped in half, they only have half a brain, and when they get themselves lost, they aren't smart enough to stay lost, like the pens do. I have often wondered if they purposefully show up again, only because they gnow that they won't be needed, ad are retaliating for they way they have been treated. Some of them, however, never get tips from the pens, are are either forced to figure it out forthemselves, at which point they end up stuck in someones desk drawer, or else they end up stuck in the pocket in which they were stuck, only to be turned onto a fluff-ball while going through the wash, at which point they have no further purpose aside from the chance of being thrown into the street, and arbitrarily being picked up by a small animal, and choking it, or else being carried off by bugs, such as ants, which will use them as a cozy den for young baby ands, who will eat them, and hopefully choke. It is the rare lucky ticket who never gets used, but instead gets stuck in a wallet for show, or hung up on a wall for show. These tickets are proud, and rarely dissappear, unless they are taken by somebody... Message # 86. Date: 12/26/88. Time: 23:17:30. Read 22 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : All... Subj : Quote of the year... "Sort of like bugs." -Gaviscon (extracted from the Story Board, Hack's Retreat) This, I can tell, came from a master. This quote can be applied to all walks of life. Examples: Describing the movement of electrons around a nucleus. Cloud formations. Human social behavior. Etc, etc, the list goes on. This one gets my vote for quote of the year, hands (and various other appendages) down. I think I'll go post it in the login quotes right now... :::Lord Cirdan Message # 87. Date: 12/27/88. Time: 00:06:34. Read 20 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Lord Cirdan Subj : Wow! RECEIVED I had no idea I was so philisophical, but, now that you think of it, everything is "Sort of like bugs," isn't it? Kinda depressing, when you think of it, but great for analyzing new behaviors. For instance the Enquiror might one day claim to have captured aliens, themselves and then people will flood the magazine with letters asking about how they act. An easy, and probably correct answer would be "Sort of like bugs." Of course, if there is anyone down at the Enquiror with half a brain, they will gnow not to claim such a thin... ...excuse me. I need to make an urgent phone call to a certain magazine about something... !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. -Quotee Message # 88. Reply to #86 Date: 12/27/88. Time: 19:12:29. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Lord Cirdan Subj : Quote of the year... RECEIVED Sorry, it doesn't describe the movement of kumquats hanging from kumquat trees on windy dayz. It must be missing something! Message # 89. Reply to #84 Date: 12/28/88. Time: 02:46:16. Read 17 Times. From : SYSOP To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Ticketstubs... RECEIVED MAYBE IT IS ONLY CERTAIN KINDS OF TICKET STUBS THAT HAVE THIS POWER TO GET IN THE WAY. I JUST LOOKED IN MY PENCIL DRAWER AND THOSE TWO TICKET TICKET STUBS ARE STILL THERE. THEY ARE CROCODILE DUNDEE II TICKETS FROM THE CENTURY THEATRE IN VENTURA. 05/25/88 3:20 PM. THEY'RE BLUE. DOES THAT MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU? C- - - Message # 90. Date: 12/28/88. Time: 14:56:40. Read 21 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : SYSOP Subj : I never saw Crocodile Dundee II... RECEIVED Perhaps the reason I never saw it was because your ticket stubs were still in existance at the time... But the Blue part interests me... Were they blue when you first got them? Perhaps they aren't REALLY the same ticket stubs... Perhaps they are sim- ply cheap copies placed there to LOOK like you never thew them away. Per- haps the ball point pens have realized that they are violating the laws of conservation of mass and/or energy, and they wish to make amends by replacing the matter that they are taking with them with false ticket stubs... You said that they were blue. Well, the majority of ball point pens prefer the colors blue and black. (Although there are an occasional green, red, purple, and others... But they are more behaved) Therefore, if they were to create a substitute for themselves, they would naturally choose the colors blue or black, just as we naturally envision God, in- telligent aliens, and robots to be roughly huminoid, with appendages and a face with eyes, ears, etc... So, they have actually given themselves away, because they naturally use blue and black. After all, the ticket stub is blue. And, if my theory is valid, the lettering is black, am I correct? Brilliant, Dr. Aviscenna. Elementary, my dear Watson... !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -The Sherlock Holmes of Dillusionment. #90. Message # 91. Reply to #90 Date: 12/29/88. Time: 02:24:35. Read 18 Times. From : SYSOP To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : I never saw Crocodile Dundee II... RECEIVED HMM, WELL, NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT, I THINK THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN ORANGE IN THE BEGINNING. THAT IS ONLY A GUESS. IT WAS A PRETTY LONG TIME AGO. HOW ABOUT YOU? COUNT UP ALL THE TICKETS YOU CAN FIND AND SEE IF THEY ARE ALL BLUE AND BLACK. C- - - Message # 92. Date: 12/29/88. Time: 15:53:41. Read 18 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : SYSOP Subj : I must do that... RECEIVED You gnow, I've been thinking... And this time it didn't hurt my head as much when I did it. When you changed your sysop, I thought, "hey! That's fine. As long as we all gnow who he is, but when I call other boards, it seems that a LOT of other people changed their names to SYSOP, or CLUB SYSOP, or anything somewhat similar. Is this a new trend? And, how will we gnow who you are, if someone ELSE named SYSOP wants to log on to this board? Why is it that this is such a popular new name? As for the blue tickets, I will check as soon as I leave the terminal, but I may take more than four minutes, so I will do it later... But, I do think I have a blue and black ticket here and there... At least the black lettering. I'm sure a lot of them have black lettering... Tricky little devils, those pens... !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. Over 300 messages served! Message # 93. Reply to #92 Date: 12/30/88. Time: 16:00:54. Read 16 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : I must do that... RECEIVED I think we should get our sysop to call himself the NON-SYSOP. He would be different from all the others, we would be able to recognize him, and, in the name of true obfuscation, would confuse the hell out of everyone. Just a thought... The Music Man -=obfuscate=- Think Infinity! Over 1000 messages served! Message # 94. Date: 12/31/88. Time: 14:04:42. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : NONSYSOP/TMM Subj : What's in a name? Hmmm... Perhaps he should just "edit" his name a bit... You gnow, like Slyman as the Slysop... Sysbot? That's a good one. If you'll remember his true nature as Hackbot, then Sysbot is a perfectly acceptable name. (Accepted by only one person, so far, but it is accepted, nonetheless) !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. --==OBFUSCATE==-- ___/ ___/ /| | The "Pi Guy" /| | | | | | Yeah, well you had a head start... Message # 95. Reply to #94 Date: 01/01/89. Time: 16:38:47. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : What's in a name? RECEIVED I think I like HACKOP better!!!! Message # 96. Date: 01/02/89. Time: 06:18:16. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : ME WELL, I'VE DECIDED TO CHANGE MY NAME TO HACK MAN AND MY NICKNAME TO SYSOP. DOINK Message # 97. Date: 01/05/89. Time: 01:20:58. Read 23 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : SNARGLEDEGOP BEFORE WE CAN PROCEED ANY FURTHER I MUST DETERMINE IF ANY OF YOU ARE SECRET COMMUNIST MUTANT CLONES FROM OUTER SPACE: PLEASE ANSWER THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS. A: DO YOU HAVE A FONDNESS OR AFFECTION FOR TEST TUBES? B: WHAT DO YOU LIKE BETTER? YELLOW, OR GREEN BANANAS? C: WHAT DO YOU THINK OF INHERITANCE TAX? C- - - Message # 98. Date: 01/05/89. Time: 21:45:23. Read 15 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : HACK MAN Subj : bananas RECEIVED I believe that is a subject for much discussion. I can't remember which one I liked, but it will come back to me. Certainly not brown, or purple, I know that much. Ci Ic Message # 99. Date: 01/06/89. Time: 00:02:34. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : hack dude Subj : things I find test tubes fascinating. I like yellow bannannas!! and inheritance tax? It sucks the big one! Message # 100. Date: 01/07/89. Time: 01:24:03. Read 19 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : Info RECEIVED A: None of the above B: False c: 1492 !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. #100. Message # 101. Reply to #98 Date: 01/12/89. Time: 00:23:58. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Cleric Ilsaram Subj : bananas RECEIVED YELLOW BANANA'S ARE THE TRUE FOOD OF THE GODS. C- - - Message # 102. Date: 01/12/89. Time: 00:25:32. Read 24 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. RECEIVED A: CAN YOU DO THIS? B: DOES NAPALM SMELL BETTER IN THE MORNING OR THE EVENING? C: IS HELL REALLY JUST LLEH SPELLED BACKWARDS? D: DO YOU LIKE KUMQUATS WARM OR COOLED? E: WHAT DO YOU THINK OF ..... F: WHAT WAS I GOING TO ASK HERE? G: C- - - Message # 103. Date: 01/12/89. Time: 00:31:11. Read 24 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : NEAT NEW THINGY I'VE ADDED A FEW NEAT NEW MESSAGE TRICKS, BUT I ONLY FEEL LIKE TELLING YOU ABOUT ONE OF THEM RIGHT NOW. IF YOU ENTER ^\ ^V (STANDS FOR random Value) IT WILL PRINT A SINGLE RANDOM NUMERIC CHARACTER (BETWEEN 0 AND 9). EVERY TIME YOU READ THE MESSAGE IT WILL PRINT A DIFFERENT RANDOM DIGIT. I THOUGHT THAT SUCH A FEATURE MIGHT POSSIBLY BE USED FOR OBFUSCATORY PURPOSES, AS INDEED I HAVE DONE SO RECENTLY. C- - - DOINK YOU! TIMES 538! Message # 104. Date: 01/12/89. Time: 02:17:51. Read 23 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : people Subj : for you 805171298739986107387460212450969133703206461859077338196041896486775236775605493959528428134713821439314393100778424277909560098530587448025192568130903753174319530105211123328548067512478912985389845460363806585593421717776654471086644757487618089810534543216803063619295124552085 That is just totally amusing. CIO COI IOC ICO take your pick Message # 105. Date: 01/13/89. Time: 17:12:33. Read 18 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : MORE ANSWERS FROM ME. RECEIVED A: The Square Root of infinity B: Tom and Jane are Goldfish C: Charles Dickens D: Chephalexin Hydrochloride E: mu * 15 kg (9.8 m/s^2) F: A fifty cent piece and a nickle G: Arcsin(cos(x)tan(x)) H: oo oo C- - - 200 400 !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. -Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies... Message # 106. Reply to #102 Date: 01/14/89. Time: 02:40:08. Read 19 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. RECEIVED A: True B: False C: Maybe D: Certainly E: Never F: 42 G: Dirty Underwear Message # 107. Date: 01/15/89. Time: 04:56:43. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : OBFUSCATES I THIK IT'S TIME TO ADMIT A FEW NEW OBFUSCATES. SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN NOMINATED SO FAR ARE; PEGGY, CANDY, LYNX, ETC. INPUT IS NEEDED ON THIS!!! C- - - Message # 108. Date: 01/15/89. Time: 04:59:40. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : HMM. (HACK MAN MUSED) HOW THE HELL DID ARSENIO HALL GET A SHOW? COULDN'T WE ALL DO IT BETTER THAN HE DOES? I WANNA GO TO BETELGEUSE. ANYONE WANT TO COME? C- - - Message # 109. Reply to #108 Date: 01/15/89. Time: 13:19:56. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : HMM. (HACK MAN MUSED) RECEIVED I don't want to go to beletguise! It's too hot there! There is, however, a little moon that circles the sixth planet from that star that is rather nice to visit. The planet itself is not too hot (well, actually, it IS hot, all desert, and very little atmosphere, composed of a lot of mercuric oxide), but the moon, which is quite small, not much bigger than our moon, has an oxygen rich atmoshpere, a lot of beautiful greenery everywhere, and cute fuzzy little animals (who by some coincidence all answer to the name "spot"). I have personally called it "Eden". I have yet to find another human or humanoidian there, so I have kindof claimed it as mine until someone else does, and a bloody battle breaks out, resulting in nuclear warfare which will wipe out life on the whole moon, leaving it as desolate as the planet it revolves around, which would also be effected by the radiation, and would turn from a desert planet into a paradise. I'm giving it about 2000 years. Until then, I have a nice little moon of mine own, with what I will call for the time being "cute fuzzy bunnies" roaming everywhere. Would you like to visit it with me? I'm going next spring! (Spring occurs there every 50 years!) The Music Man I think peggy may be a candidate for an obfuscate 3rd class, but I don't gnow about the others, I'd have to watch them more before I personally made a decision, but the decision is ultimately everyone elses as well. Message # 110. Date: 01/15/89. Time: 14:26:46. Read 15 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : ALL Subj : Obfuscates. Peggy maybe. I don't think the rest have shown Obfuscate qualities yet. Peggy has potential but I haven't seen anything that would qualify her as of yet. :::Lord Cirdan #110. Message # 111. Date: 01/15/89. Time: 15:50:18. Read 24 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Obfuscates/Dillusionists Subj : New Obfuscates/Dillusionists I don't gnow... I think candy had the absolute best inherant Obfuscatory powers in a new user that I've ever seen. I actually believed, at first, that she was one of you guys, in a blind effort to see what they women- only board was doing... (THE women only...) But they've all seemed to've (conjunction: to have) digressed. Any true-blue Obfuscate has to stick with it. I've had the experience of watching at least 20 users attempt to out-margin me, for the sole purpose of trying to become more of a margin master than myself. Out of all those, only The Frammis Man was capable of "sticking with it." I have yet to see a second user margin for more than a week. Therefore, there have only been two users to achieve "Marginer" status. (I am still thinking of a name to call it) Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is that anyone can be an Obfuscate for a week or two, but we also have to examine the long-lasting qualities. Don't call someone a marginer because they right-justify a single message, in other words. Peggy seems like a prime choice (God, she sounds like a piece of meat) in choosing new Obfuscates, but I haven't seen much out of her, other than a post or two (mostly replies) on the Obfuscatorium. If I'm going to decide to vote someone in as an Obfuscate, I have to see an original, clever, (& slightly wierd) piece of Dillusioned thinking. You gnow, like subliminal message posting, inbred parenthesis, or the invention of the GN/OMUBET... (except original) It doesn't have to be big... Just something to set one of them off from the rest of the users... Oh, and HACK MAN, I've been meaning to ask you something. Could you print up another list of the Obfuscates? Gary the Gallant, a.k.a. The Nomad, a.k.a. Bruceee, a.k.a. The Death Demon seems to think that he was des- ignated an Obfuscate, mostly because he had access to The Temple of Dill- usion on the new Gnome. On every list that I have ever seen, he was never included, and no one ever even mentioned making him an Obfuscate, but he refuses to belive me, and wants it straight from you. This board is long distance for him to call, so he asked me to ask you if he was, which I do not think he is, but would rather you say he ain't. Right? Anyway, I made a list of who I gnew were Obfuscates to him, and this is what I came up with: (*) indicates missing, presumed partying. Lex Luthor (*) HACK MAN Lord Cirdan Pizza Man Cleric Ilsaram The Music Man The Frammis Man (*) Tasslehoff Burfoot And, of course, Gaviscon Aviscenna a.k.a. The Pi Guy/Margin Master/A lot of other things... Hmmm... I keep thinking that I missed somebody, but it's just not coming to my mind... Anyway, let me gnow what to tell Gary the Gallant. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. -Also, we should first make them rookie/minor/training/whateverelse Obfuscates. (Obfuscate 3rd class?) Then, maybe we could just say, "Show us what you've got" Message # 112. Date: 01/16/89. Time: 03:44:37. Read 15 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : all Subj : hey I agree. Peggy is rather intelligent, et al, but not an Obfuscate in my opinion. What I see from her as far as clubs go, is Anti-Jerk material. Candy has obfuscatory qualities to her. But I don't think her attempts when applying herself to the task of obfuscation have been anything more than half- baked. So far, it seems to be merely potential. Lynx has been around awhile. But I have no idea where his loyalties reside. CI shlabeddy Message # 115. Reply to #111 Date: 01/17/89. Time: 04:11:14. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : New Obfuscates/Dillusionists RECEIVED I DUNNO. MAYBE L.C. CAN HELP OUT. I'M NOT SURE. A COUPLE OF NEW OBFUSCATES WERE VOTED IN ON APPLEHOLICS. AFTER WHICH POINT THEY PROMPTLY DISAPPEARED. I'M NOT SURE BUT I THINK GARY THE GALLANT WAS ONE. DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT TMM? HMM, I THINK I HAVE SOME OBFUSCATE STUFF FROM APPLEHOLICS SAVED SOMEWHERE. I'LL HAVE TO LOOK IT UP AND REPRINT SOME OF THE GOOD STUFF. OH NO, ON THE OTHER HAND THAT STUFF MAY HAVE BEEN LOST IN A HARD DISK CRASH. I'M WONDERING ABOUT MYNK LYNX. HE SAYS THAT HE WAS MADE AN OBFUSCATE, BUT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT. I BELIEVE HE MEANS A LONG TIME AGO JUST BEFORE THE GNOME'S CASTLE WAS TAKEN DOWN, BUT I DON'T SEEM TO RECALL THAT. C- - - Message # 116. Date: 01/17/89. Time: 17:07:49. Read 18 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Hack Man Subj : Obfuscates RECEIVED I don't think either of them were Obfuscates. I think that a lot of people like to consider themselves Obfuscates, because no one else would let them be... You gnow, like just because they posted on Obfuscatoriums, and had access to Temples and such, they assumed they were members. It's just like people who christian themselves as members of the 3am club, because they post a message at 3am. I had access to the Temple of Dillusion long be- fore I was an Obfuscate, so that is no way to tell, but I think that is what Gary based it on... Perhaps you did give certain people membership... But I certainly don't recall it. I think we ought to revote on everything or at least come up with a suitable way of letting in new members. Make it all terribly official, like Congress, so that it takes twice the amount of time to do anything. (And somewhere, someone, sometime should keep a list, so we don't run into these problems) Also, Gary wanted me to tell you about a BBS he's putting up. (Yes, that's right... Another one!) I think he's going to call it The Demon's Den, or something patterned after The Death Demon, one of his many handles. (He's having real troubles sticking with a handle) Anyway, he told me all about a subboard that he would call the Table of Dillusion, (the BBS itself was going to be patterned after Gnome, I guess... Popular topic. I had nothing to do with it... Scout's honor) and it would admit only a certain number of users, although everyone could read the messages. There was some pecul- iarity to it. I believe that the number of members to the table remained a constant, and the Obfuscates could never be bumped off, but they could do so to other users at will, to make room for other users, or new Obfuscates to the board. (When needed, he might expand the seating) Anyway, I am not going to say if I support his ideas, or not, but he wanted me to tell you about it... So I did. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. -=I'M AN OBFUSCATE, ARE YOU?=- Message # 117. Reply to #116 Date: 01/18/89. Time: 01:48:56. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Obfuscates RECEIVED WELL, TELL HIM THAT HE CAN'T HAVE A BOARD FOR OBFUSCATES WITHOUT MAJORITY APPROVAL OF THE OBFUSCATES, WHICH MEANS THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO CALL HERE AND TELL US ABOUT IT HIMSELF. AS FOR DILLUSION, THAT WAS LEX LUTHOR'S AND LORD CIRDAN'S DOMAIN AND HE WOULD HAVE TO ASK THEM. C- - - Message # 118. Date: 01/19/89. Time: 12:07:22. Read 17 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : ALL Subj : Obfuscates I don't remember Gary the Gallant becoming an Obfuscate, and actually, I don't remember Mynk Lynx calling The (Orignal) Gnome's Castle, though I think he had access to Gnome. Hmm, may have to go through the message bases I have and see what's on there. L8r... :::Lord Cirdan Message # 119. Date: 01/19/89. Time: 12:10:31. Read 21 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : Hack Man Subj : A gnote. RECEIVED You gnow, I was giving some serious thought about what made the Gnome's Castle a good BBS, better perhaps than its offspring, Gnome. My personal opinion is one feature that is destructive to quality message posts is the auto-reply command. If user A calls up and posts a message about something, then user B calls up and replies. That's ok. But then user C calls up, reads user A's message, replies, then reads user B message. Thus you have a post about a subject that user C hasn't obtained all of the information. So C's message may restate many of the things said by user B. Now user D calls up, and gets confused reading straight through the messages because user C is repeating what user B already said. Also, auto-reply encourages disconnected messages. Look at the messages on the Obfuscate board. Many messages between Music Man and candy are hard to follow without going back to the original messages to see what they are talking about. And most people don't feel like doing that. I gnow that the auto-reply may make things easier for people who can't remember who said what, but I think that by making things too easy you may end up with a sloppy message base. Comments? :::Lord Cirdan Message # 120. Date: 01/19/89. Time: 17:47:32. Read 21 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Lord Cirdan Subj : Hear here! RECEIVED I've been stating that for years! You were not around, but I was the one who got Wolverine kicked off almost every board in Ventura, just by getting mad at him for posting seven meaningless replies in a row, many of which said exactly the same things. (The guy was a dork, but it took someone to crit- icize him before people realized it.) Admittedly, they might have taken that too far, but I did manage to save that board from utter boredom. The exact same problem is on every board I see... People seem to like posting short, 3 word replies to messages, as soon as they read them. Anyone with half a mind can remember what somebody else said, a few messages back. It really gets to be an annoyance when someone posts something like: Could somebody tell me the number to _______'s board? (or) Does anyone gnore where _______ is? (or whatever) Then, on a popular board, you'll get about 4 or 5 identical posts from var- ious users, plus maybe one or two more, by people apologising for reapeating someone else... I tend to stay away from reply options, and urge others to do the same, but I gnow that I am not in the majority. It is, however, nice to see that there is someone else on my side... Oh, and, Mink Lynx never called Gnome's regularly, although he may have been a visiter every now and again. I really do not think that he was an Obfuscate nevertheless... !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. #120. Message # 121. Reply to #115 Date: 01/28/89. Time: 12:43:15. Read 18 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : New Obfuscates/Dillusionists RECEIVED I don't remember mynk lynk becoming one. I don't think he has obfuscate potential, but I may be wrong. As for gary the gallant, maybe, but I don't remember (that was an infinite amount of time ago, and my brain doesn't remember anything more than 30 seconds ago!) Oh, well. Let's just keep watching them and vote on it later. The Music Man -=obfuscate=-(1st Class) dillusionist!(3rd Class) All Else Is Trivial! Message # 122. Reply to #119 Date: 01/28/89. Time: 12:48:55. Read 16 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Lord Cirdan Subj : A gnote. RECEIVED I agree 100%. I used to just remember the topics and people who left them and then reply after reading it all. Then I could reply to the subject as a whole, and as you said, not repeat the same things others have said. Auto-reply mucks up the messages base with too many messages too! (I gnow, I am probably the one who does most of the mucking, but I have just gotten lazy!) Maybe we should remove the autoreply from places like the obfuscatorium and here, and maybe other places. Messages on GC were a lot more consolidated, and I agree, that was probably part of why it was so successful! -TMM Message # 123. Reply to #122 Date: 01/30/89. Time: 00:08:27. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : A gnote. RECEIVED I THINK THAT AUTOREPLY HAS MORE POSITIVE POINTS THAN NEGATIVE ONES. C- - - Message # 124. Reply to #123 Date: 01/30/89. Time: 22:46:59. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : A gnote. RECEIVED I kindof agree. I wish there were some other solution though. I would try thinking of one, but I don't feel like it. Message # 126. Reply to #123 Date: 01/31/89. Time: 03:21:58. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : A gnote. RECEIVED WELL, YOU CAN ALWAYS AUTOREPLY AND IF YOU FIND THAT YOU SAID SOMETHING STUPID THEN YOU CAN RE-EDIT THE MESSAGE AND TAKE THE STUPID STUFF OUT. C- - - P.S. OR, YOU CAN READ ALL OF THE MESSAGE AND USE THE 'D' OPTION TO TRACE BACKWARDS THROUGH THE INTERESTING CONVOS AND USE THE AUTOREPLY TO REPLY TO THOSE MESSAGES THAT NEED REPLYING TO. THAT WAY YOU WILL GNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THE CONVO, AND YOU CAN STILL USE THE AUTOREPLY. Message # 127. Date: 01/31/89. Time: 13:32:47. Read 19 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : Dillusionists Subj : Well then... Ok then, let's see how many people make use of re-edit command.... I'll post a message that should get a response from people due to it's highly controversial nature, and see how many post right away, rather than read the next message, then see how many people after reading the second message re-edit their messages.... :::Lord Cirdan Message # 128. Reply to #127 Date: 01/31/89. Time: 16:00:33. Read 19 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Lord Cirdan Subj : Well then... RECEIVED Hmmm, I wonder if I'll fall for it! (I think you could have found something more controversial though!) People could always go back and delete the message they left (like I almost did, but didn 't feel like it, I'm too lazy!) Message # 129. Date: 02/05/89. Time: 12:50:11. Read 20 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Dillusionists/Yak Lovers Subj : Yak facts Did you gnow that. . . and refuse to move? choose yaks? (Significantly, when asked the same question, 7 out of 7 yaks did not choose Obfuscates) have a life span of over 90 years? cowardly yak instead of a cowardly lion? ("Yaks and tigers and bears, oh my!") where it forms a long, shaggy fringe? more? black and white? mature bulls staying together in smaller groups)? !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Source of all your major yak facts. Message # 130. Date: 02/06/89. Time: 02:42:32. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : A SECRET I GNOW WHY WORMS CRAWL AROUND ON THE GROUND AFTER IT STARTS RAINING. C- - - #130. Message # 131. Reply to #130 Date: 02/06/89. Time: 15:35:53. Read 19 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : A SECRET RECEIVED And I gnow why they get stepped on! -TMM Coming soon: Little Gnown Facts About Kumquats Message # 132. Date: 02/07/89. Time: 17:50:42. Read 17 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : People who like yaks Subj : More yak facts Did you know that. . . during the cold season? used to make rope, and that yak tails are used as fly whisks in India? disease caused by the organism mycoplasma mycoides, which strikes yaks and other herding animals? the yak for plowing? Tibet? animal? away as Lima, Peru? THESE ARE IMPORTANT TO GNOW, MY FRIENDS! !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- Message # 133. Date: 02/09/89. Time: 16:16:22. Read 19 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Dillusioned Gnus Subj : Gnu news Now, for some gnu news: Hot off the wire: Huey Lewis and the Gnus will be giving a special concert. Their warmup band is rumored to be a surprise reunion of The Animals. Did you gnow that: Remember these facts! !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Source of all your gnu and yak facts. Message # 134. Reply to #132 Date: 02/10/89. Time: 05:10:49. Read 19 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : More yak facts RECEIVED SO, WHY DON'T WE HAVE YAKS IN CALIFORNIA? C- - - Message # 135. Date: 02/20/89. Time: 02:11:13. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : ANNOYING ANIMALS. I HAVE JUST THEORIZED WHAT I BELIEVE TO BE THE MOST ANNOYING ANIMAL POSSIBLE. WHAT YOU DO IS YOU TAKE A HUMMING BIRD AND CROSS IT WITH A CAT. THE RESULT SHALL BE NAMED A 'HUMMING CAT.' THEY ARE GREAT PETS TO GIVE TO YOUR WORST ENEMIES. ALWAYS HUMMING, AND MEOWING, AND PURRING AROUND. HUMMING CATS WOULD BE QUITE A HAZARD FOR CAT HATERS. CATS CAN USUALLY SPOT A CAT HATER FROM A MILE AWAY. SUCH CAT HATERS WOULD BE IN GRAVE DANGER OF STRAFING CLAW RUNS FROM ABOVE. NOT ONLY THAT BUT HUMMING CATS WOULD BE PLENTIFUL, (BECAUSE THEY CAN REACH BIRDS EASIER) THEY WOULD HAVE LOTS TO EAT. ONCE MY GENETIC EXPERIMENTS ARE CONCLUDED YOU WILL BE ABLE TO HEAR THE ANNOYING SOUND OF HUMMING CATS BREEDING IN TREES AND ON TELEPHONE POLES. SO, GET YOUR SLINGSHOTS AND SHOTGUNS READY! C- - - Message # 136. Date: 02/21/89. Time: 16:28:51. Read 15 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Hack Man Subj : Humming cats RECEIVED Ooooh! You are so right! And humming cats would have the uncanny ability, not other to always land on their feet, but to hang in midair... Therefore, hum- ming cats would be able to hang in midair, and their feet could do anything, including gouge flesh out of your arms... And even worse, these humming cats, as dangerous and bad-tempered as they may be (from their agitation from being their own worst enemies... Literally) will still appear to be cute and ador- able. (Being that a humming bird is the smallest bird, and that cats are de- ceivingly cute, when they are small, anyway...) They will be like cats in sheep's clothing! Well... Maybe I'll come up with a better analogy later... Get out the kitty litter, and sprinkle it with pollen! Uh... Hack Man... You wouldn't ever think of sending one of those out on me... Would you? !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- Message # 137. Date: 02/22/89. Time: 22:59:29. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : LYNX WHAT DO YOU THINK OF ADMITTING LYNX INTO THE RANKS OF OBFUSCATIONSHIP? C- - - Message # 138. Date: 02/23/89. Time: 14:49:02. Read 12 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : All Subj : Lynx Well, he at least has the backspacing down.....Hmmm, maybe we should give him a test? Make up a bunch of questions and see how he answers them? :::Lord Cirdan Message # 139. Date: 02/24/89. Time: 16:45:31. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Hack Man Subj : I'm not sure... RECEIVED He seems alright, but as I've said before, (about peggy) he lacks originality. I've yet to see anything truely "new" out of either of them. They just kind of go along with the flow of us others... Before I vote for someone, I want to see a completely new, original idea, at LEAST once, but any Obfuscate has to REALLY be able to come up with new ideas all the time... Also, we should develop some systamatic way of letting new Obfuscates in, like Lynx. Lord Cirdan suggested a quiz, or something, which seems like a good idea but I'm thinking more along the lines of voting... I mean, I believe we should have to get a unanymous vote from all Obfuscates who are present. (The Frammis Man, Lex Luthor, etc., would not be required, but, if he hasn't been gone too long, people like Cleric Ilsaram should be asked by phone, if it's not too in- convenient, and people like Tazz, who just doesn't call very often, should be asked to vote, as well.) Maybe we should have one person suggest to let some- one in, and then spend a week, (or otherwise designated time) discussing the issue, giving opinions, and so on... If you appear to be the only one who dis- approves of someone, you should probably give in, at the end of the week, as a common courtasy to the others, since a unanamous vote is needed, unless you've got a strong reason for opposing the person. If you do, then you should really be able to sway others to your side during the week debate, anyway. The Obfus- cates can stay small, if it has to, and, admittedly, it'd be better if it were larger, but I think that a true consent of everyone is the best way... Other- wise, people will start holding grudges and get angry when someone is admitted against their wishes, etc. Maybe it's not the same as the Senate, but who is crazy enough to copy our government, anyway? Therefore, my "rules" are as follows: 1) Unanomous (How DO you spell that?) vote required to admit any new Obfuscate. 2) Voters will consist of all Obfuscates who can be easily contacted. 3) To be considered, one Obfusacte must suggest the idea, and then one week of debate will follow. (Time can be extended if needed) 4) If a user is very close to being admitted, (say, within one vote) then the person(s) who voted against that user will be allowed to change their vote to approval afterward, without a completely different voting session. This should be done as a common courtasy, unless your opposing reasons happen to be very strong. (And valid) 5) Any user may be suggested for admission any number of times, but don't make it rediculous. (Want him in? "Nay!" Want him in? "Nay!!" All right, one last chance... Want him in? "Nay NAY! NAY!!!") Any commments? Criticisms? Criteria? Crustaceans? !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- Message # 140. Reply to #139 Date: 02/24/89. Time: 22:03:35. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : I'm not sure... RECEIVED I think creativity is indeed important! Lynx can grasp the concept, but I have yet to see anything new from him that I have not seen before form anybody else. I guess its kindof like a thesis, doing something that nobody has ever done before, ^(masters) and doing it right. Until I see genuine originality from him, he will not get my vote. #140. Message # 141. Date: 02/26/89. Time: 14:37:08. Read 21 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : Anyone Subj : Lynx I think Music Man is right, about the thesis. Perhaps someone should drop him a gnote, and say that he must first come up with a completely original post that we could make a decision on. :::LC Message # 142. Date: 02/28/89. Time: 04:46:45. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : UPDATED OBFUSCATE BULLETINS WELL THAT PRETTY MUCH SAYS IT ALL. THE OBFUSCATE BULLETINS HAVE BEEN UPDATED AND EXPANDED, CHECK THEM OUT. C- - - Message # 144. Date: 02/28/89. Time: 17:37:37. Read 18 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Obfuscates Subj : Whatever happened to message #143? Why does Lynx gnow about all the tricks, anyway? Can he read the Obfuscate bullitans, and why? I believe we should drop a few small hints, (very dif- ficult, like on Gnome's Castle) but not give the tricks away, unless some- one IS an Obfuscate. I mean, what's the point of calling them Obfusacte bullitans? But if he figured out these tricks entirely on his own, then I must comend him for that. Or did someone tell him about it? Hack: The color tricks elude me. I didn't read it clearly, but all I gnow is that I've got a lousy ANSI simulator, with four colors, and you have included many more possibilities. How can you tell if something is a different color, anyway? From what I read, the only way to tell is by the BEEP. Maybe I should read up on it, slowly. What do any of you think about how to vote in an Obfuscate? Should it just be informal, or what? Also, it doesn't seem right that you should have to TELL someone to be or- iginal. Any Obfuscate has to always do that, but I guess you've got to go and start somewhere. I still disagree with letting someone in, on the sim- ple basis that they wrote one original message because we told him to. But I believe we DO have to tell him, just so we can test his creativity... By the way, is Racer X REALLY holding a bingo game, or is this something or- iginal from him? Maily, I want to gnow this, because if he just made it up then I wasted a lot of money on raffle tickets from his partner. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. Message # 145. Reply to #144 Date: 02/28/89. Time: 20:55:53. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Whatever happened to message #143? RECEIVED WELL, I TOLD LYNX THAT IT INVOLVED TWO CONTROL CHARACTERS, AND HE FIGURED OUT ALL OF THE REST. HE EVEN FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO COLORS ALREADY. THAT MADE ME SUSPICIOUS. BUT SINCE I DID THE COLOR MOD THE ONLY PERSONS WHO HAVE ACCESS TO THE OBFUSCATE BULLETINS WHO CALLED ARE YOU AND LC. I EVEN CHECKED LOCKPICK AND MASTER BLASTER TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE TOO MUCH ACCESS. I HAVE TO SAY HE'S QUICK AT PICKING UP THAT STUFF. AS FAR AS I GNOW THERE ISN'T A BINGO GAME GOING ON, BUT THEN MAYBE THERE REALLY IS ONE GOING ON IN RACER'S MIND. C- - - Message # 147. Date: 03/02/89. Time: 02:59:47. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : NEW OBFUSCATED EDITOR COMMANDS I'VE ADDED SOME NEW AND POWERFUL COMMANDS. LYNX SUGGESTED THAT I ADD A COMMAND THAT WILL PAUSE FOR INPUT AND THEN JUMP TO CERTAIN LINES DEPENDING ON THE INPUT. I EXPANDED THE IDEA SO THAT IT WILL PAUSE FOR INPUT, AND JUMP OR DO ANY OF THE OTHER OBFUSCATED COMMANDS DEPENDING ON THE INPUT. (OR JUST PAUSE UNTIL A KEY IS PRESSED AND THEN DO NOTHING ONCE IT IS PRESSED.) THESE SHENNANIGANS INVOLVE THREE NEW COMMANDS: ^\^J ^\^Q ^\^T THEIR USAGE IS SEMI-COMPLICATED SO I WON'T REPRINT IT HERE. I HAVE ALREADY EXPANDED THE OBFUSCATE'S TRICKS BULLETIN AND ADDED INSTRUCTIONS FOR THESE COMMANDS. THEY'RE NOT THAT HARD THOUGH, LYNX WAS OVER HERE WHEN I PROGRAMMED IT IN - AND ONCE I EXPLAINED TO HIM HOW IT WORKS HE WAS BETTER AT IT THAN I AM. I HAVE ALSO ADDED A ^\^P COMMAND THAT INSERTS A SINGLE 1/2 SECOND PAUSE. OTHER CHANGES! YOU CAN NOW TYPE ^] INSTEAD OF ^\. THAT'S BECAUSE LORD CIRDAN'S TERMINAL PROGRAM USES ^\ FOR THE CAPTURE BUFFER (OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT). I ADDED ^] SO THAT HE CAN ALSO PARTICIPATE! YOU ARE NO LONGER PROMPTED FOR INPUT WITH THE ^\^I ^\^S COMMANDS. AND, THE INPUT DOESN'T ECHO TO THE SCREEN. THAT'S SO THAT THEY WON'T MESS UP THE SCREEN WHEN YOU ENTER THEM. C- - - Message # 149. Date: 03/02/89. Time: 14:23:34. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : A BUG I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN A BUG I RAN ACROSS. IT'S PARTICULARLY OBFUSCATED. I DISCOVERED THAT IF YOU WROTE AN INFINITE MESSAGE AND SAVED IT, AND THEN YOU DECIDED TO RE-EDIT THE MESSAGE AND YOU DECIDED TO KILL THE INFINITE LINE, ONCE YOU TRIED TO RE-SAVE THE MESSAGE - IT WOULD TRY TO SAVE AN INFINITE AMOUNT OF NOTHING. THE BUG HAS BEEN FIXED, BUT IT JUST GOES TO SHOW THAT NOTHING DOES EXIST. MY HARD DRIVE IS FULL OF IT NOW! IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE SOME NOTHING - I HAVE AN INFINITE SUPPLY AND AM WILLING TO LET IT GO CHEAP! ANIMATED SIGNOFF? (Y/N) : KC- - - C- - C- AW SHUCKS! C- - - Message # 151. Date: 03/03/89. Time: 13:40:36. Read 19 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : Interesante... RECEIVED Well, I have to comend Lynx on that, and given enough time, I would have found out things like that myself, so I don't doubt that it was possible for him to do it through trial and error. (When I noticed your input test, I tried it my- self, without first reading the instructions, and I eventually got to the ^\^Q part, but didn't get to the "IF" part, although I gnew it had something to do with ^\^T, because that combonation wanted input... Anyway, let's see if I've got it, now. You could do some pretty bizzare stuff with this... Shave and a haircut? That will be $1.95. Never mind... That was interesting... I think I need to reread it. I could have done better, but it was my first try. HACK: A question: what if you wanted to print one thing, if a certain thing was intputed, but you also wanted to print something else if a certain thing was NOT inputted. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. Message # 152. Reply to #151 Date: 03/05/89. Time: 14:01:54. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Interesante... RECEIVED YOU COULD DO IT WITH A LOT OF JUMP COMMANDS. IT WOULD BE KINDA LIKE A BASIC PROGRAM. IN BASIC IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. 100 A$=INKEYS$:IF A$="N" THEN GOTO 300 200 PRINT "WHATEVER":GOTO 400 300 PRINT "SOME OTHER THING" 400 END MESSAGE EQUIVALENT. A R E Y O U W E I R D ( Y / N ) (^\^Q)(^\^TN)(^\^J3) T O O B A D (^\^J4) J O I N T H E C L U B ! C- - - Message # 154. Date: 03/07/89. Time: 16:35:44. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : Oh, I see... RECEIVED I didn't realize what the JUMP command did... It's like a GOTO. When I read about it, I assumed that it meant the line on the SCREEN rather than in the message... Like, ^\^J20...Would send you down here, somewhere... Sort of like a POS(X) command on some computers. Now that I see the actual usage, I realize it's importance. I was even go- ing to suggest that you make a command like that, because I've been doing this: ^\^Ty Y ^\^Ty E ^\^Ty S ^\^Ty ! (SPACES ARE, OF COURSE, FOR CLARITY) All right... Hmm... I couldn't quite get that to work right... Anyway, the point is, I now see how this if-then works... I'll try not to overdo it. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. Message # 155. Date: 03/14/89. Time: 22:03:57. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : ^^ LORD CIRDAN COULDN'T USE THE ^] EITHER SO I CHANGED IT TO CONTROL CARAT (^^). I ALSO NOTICED SOMETHING INTERESTING. SINCE THE ^ IS A CAPITAL 6 YOU MIGHT THINK THAT THAT IN ORDER TO SEND CONTROL CARAT (^^) YOU MIGHT HAVE TO PRESS THE CONTROL KEY, SHIFT KEY, AND 6 KEY ALL AT THE SAME TIME. IN FACT, ON MY IBM COMPATIBLE KEYBOARD YOU DON'T HAVE TO PRESS THE SHIFT KEY. IT SENDS A ^^ ANYWAY. THIS FASCINATING PIECE OF BOREDOM IS BROUGHT TO YOU COURTESY OF HACK MAN C- - - Message # 156. Date: 03/16/89. Time: 15:20:38. Read 20 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : ALL Subj : Well, let's give it a try... Look, bells: Oh, I forgot. Humans can't see sound. :::Lord Cirdan +++++++++++ Ponder that! Message # 157. Date: 03/19/89. Time: 11:37:33. Read 32 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : Pickles. Subj : Gosh, such livelyness in the Temple. Hmm. I think we need something to do. Ok, let's play Story Time. This will be like the Story Board, only you can only right three sentences. The first sentence has to be the last sentence of the previous post. So if I wrote "Blikfrom, in a fit of depression, hopped into his galatic warp hopper, and sped off into space. Soon, he came upon a planet of pure pickles. He landed to investigate." Then you would write, "He landed to investigate. He tested the pickles, and they were good. Blikfrom made plans to become Pickle Tycoon of the Universe." And then someone else would post "Blikfrom made plans to become Pickle Tycoon of the Universe. ....." etc. Sound fun? :::Lord Cirdan Message # 158. Date: 03/24/89. Time: 16:11:20. Read 17 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : LC Subj : Cool... RECEIVED It was a cold day on Theolosis, but, then again, it was always cold on Theolosis. Damrogen Meretzky was glad to be leaving the God-awful planet of methane ice, successfully completing his research there. He climbed into the pale green landing craft, turning around to take a final look at the icy hell world, before launching to dock with the orbiting mothership above. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. -Gotta be sci-fi Message # 159. Date: 03/25/89. Time: 01:01:10. Read 19 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : Gav Subj : Well, RECEIVED He got into his pale green ship, and launched to dock with the mothership in orbit. As his slide into the docking area, something went wrong. Warning lights blinked on all over the place as an O-ring went faulty, and one engine exploded. Lord Cirdan::: Message # 160. Date: 03/25/89. Time: 19:18:50. Read 22 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Lord Cirdan Subj : Aren't we supposed to repeat the last line? RECEIVED Damrogen watched as the first of two engines exploded, damaging parts of the ship. Emergency airlocks closed, sealing off radioactive areas of the ship & depressurized areas that had opened to the vacuum of space. Meanwhile, the damaged computer system mistook his docked craft with a dangerous area, and would refuse to open the entrance airlock. !v!o!i!G!nsa!c -=@ Margin Master @=- #160. Message # 162. Reply to #160 Date: 03/27/89. Time: 04:44:28. Read 22 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Aren't we supposed to repeat the last line? RECEIVED AT ANY MOMENT THE FUEL TANK COULD BE BREACHED AND THE LAUNCH VEHICLE WOULD BECOME ON HELL OF AN ORBITAL FIREWORKS DISPLAY, TAKING THE MOTHER SHIP WITH IT. "NO TIME TO BE WASTED," THOUGHT DAMROGEN AS HE WHIPPED OUT HIS GONKULATOR AND BEGAN TO GO TO WORK. C- - - MY GOD! IT'S FULL OF STARS! * * ** *** Message # 163. Date: 04/14/89. Time: 06:45:50. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : LYNX SO, WHAT DO YOU THINK? LYNX IS RATHER IMPATIENT BY NOW AND I DON'T GNOW WHAT TO SAY. C- - - Message # 164. Date: 04/16/89. Time: 20:58:32. Read 22 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Hack Man Subj : Lynx RECEIVED Well, we seem to have lost most of our Obfuscates, but I think our opinions on Lynx were pretty clear. From what I could see, we voted negative, with hopes. I mentioned that Lynx seemed somewhat deserving, but really hasn't done much to prove himself. Something new, something different. Something like the fad with (((((((((((((((((((this)))))))))))))))))) or whatever... You gnow what I am talking about. The things that Obfuscates are coming up with all the time, but didn't copy from someone else. Like when I started margining, and tried a few subliminal messages, or whatever. Preferably nothing to do with just ex- ploiting your color-changing function. I can't describe exactly what I want to see from him, because if I gnew, it wouldn't qualify. However, until I see it, my vote is negative. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped. Message # 165. Date: 05/11/89. Time: 17:29:42. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK & other Obfuscates Subj : Quote-o-matic So, anyway, the problem is that a lot of non-Obfuscates want to be able to post quotes. I want to gnow what people's opinions are on this topic. Do you think only Obfuscates should be able to post quotes? Or, do you think anyone should be able to enter quotes? Perhaps if we give them the power to do so, we should include something to let us easily delete quotes, if we think they are unsuitable. Or, maybe we should just let them suggest quotes? Or, maybe we should forget it all together and leave things the way they are? Or, maybe we should all go fishing for a few days, and when somebody catches a few days on their fishing line, we'll use them to go fishing for fish? !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Mindless Matter @=- Message # 166. Reply to #165 Date: 05/13/89. Time: 14:13:24. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Quote-o-matic RECEIVED Let them tell us their quote in a public message, and if any of the obfuscates like any of them, they can put them in the quote-o-matic! Message # 167. Date: 05/17/89. Time: 14:23:39. Read 16 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : Gav Subj : I agree RECEIVED with Music Man. :::Lord Cirdan P.S. (The bit about the catfish was one of my favorites so far.... Maybe the Dillusionists are making a comeback...) Message # 168. Date: 05/17/89. Time: 17:08:28. Read 13 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Obfuscates Subj : All right... Looks like we all pretty much agree on the quote-thing. I personally thought that they should "submit" quotes to us, and then we'd have the posting option to put up the quote, also. But, what are you talking about the catfish? Did I miss something, or has my selective memory miss the "SELECT" key, and accidentally hit "DELETE"? !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- Message # 169. Date: 09/23/89. Time: 00:28:26. Read 14 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : all Subj : hey yo puppy room! It's just peachy to be back. Hack, I've got to sit down with you for several moments (several is usually four or more, and a moment is 3 minutes, so that comes to at least 12 minutes) and have you explain all these new features. As it is, I'm spending a heap of money on this phone call. l8r :CI Message # 170. Date: 06/26/89. Time: 12:41:27. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Dillies Subj : False Advertizing If there are 60 minutes in an hour, and 60 seconds in a minute, and sixty jiffys in a second (Wouldn't it follow that there should be sixty hours in a day? SOmeone goofed, but that's not my point), then that would mean that Jiffy Pop Pop Corn is using false advertizing, for they infer, through suggestive symbolism, that their corn pops in 1/60th of a second! This just cannot be! I'll bet david horowitz would love to hear about THAT! #170. Message # 171. Date: 07/13/89. Time: 23:08:13. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : TMM Subj : 60 JIFFYS RECEIVED DOES THAT MEAN THAT THERE ARE 60 INSTANTS IN A JIFFY? C- - - Message # 172. Reply to #171 Date: 08/02/89. Time: 19:59:46. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : 60 JIFFYS RECEIVED YES!! And between each instant is an infinite number of points!! (which are probably well taken!) Message # 173. Date: 08/03/89. Time: 22:36:37. Read 13 Times. From : Tasslehoff Burfoot To : Subj : Me RECEIVED I don't believe this message exists, therefore it does. >The Tazz< Message # 174. Reply to #173 Date: 08/04/89. Time: 02:17:32. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Tasslehoff Burfoot Subj : Me RECEIVED I THINK THIS MESSAGE DOES EXIST. THEREFORE YOU DON'T. C- - - Message # 175. Reply to #174 Date: 08/04/89. Time: 13:15:07. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : Me RECEIVED I don't think either of you exist, therefore, you don't! Message # 176. Reply to #175 Date: 08/04/89. Time: 15:10:32. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Me RECEIVED I don't think the subop of this board exists, and he doesn't! !!! GAVISCON !!! Message # 178. Reply to #176 Date: 08/05/89. Time: 21:03:54. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Me RECEIVED I'M SURE THAT I DON'T EXIST. DOES THAT MEAN THAT I DON'T HAVE TO GO TO WORK TOMORROW? C- - - Message # 179. Reply to #178 Date: 08/07/89. Time: 01:33:13. Read 15 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : Me RECEIVED Just because you don't exist, it doesn't mean your job doesn't exist. There- fore, you must get up and do it, even if it's not actually you doing it, but the part of you that would exist, if you did. (Which you don't) Tasslehoff: I don't think you exist, so don't pretend to be there. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- Message # 180. Reply to #179 Date: 08/08/89. Time: 20:49:35. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Me RECEIVED If I existed, I would probably agree with you. (but I don't, so I won't!) #180. Message # 181. Date: 08/09/89. Time: 02:38:18. Read 15 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Existors/Nonexistors Subj : A question... I pretty much gnow who exists out of you, and who doesn't. Now, could someone tell me if I exist? I need an external opinion. !!! GAVISCON !!! -I'm pink, therefore I'm spam. Message # 182. Reply to #181 Date: 08/09/89. Time: 04:40:45. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : A question... RECEIVED ACTUALLY I THINK YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO DOES EXIST. YOU ARE ALL ALONE. A FIGMENT OF OUR IMAGINATION. C- - - Message # 183. Date: 08/10/89. Time: 13:31:48. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Hack Man Subj : Uh oh! RECEIVED Boy! Then I feel pretty silly talking to all of you! That's terrible. To think I'm the only one here who exists... I feel so alone. I guess the rest of you are all bad special effects, hm? !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Figment of someone's imagination @=- Message # 184. Reply to #183 Date: 08/16/89. Time: 20:03:27. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Uh oh! RECEIVED EXTREMELY BAD. AND YOU GNOW WHAT. I HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE THE FIGMENT OF A CERTIAN WHITE RAT'S IMAGINATION. C- - - P.S. AND RIGHT NOW THEY ARE FEEDING HIM OVERDOSES OF RED DYE #7 Message # 185. Reply to #182 Date: 08/17/89. Time: 00:35:06. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : A question... RECEIVED I thought he was a pigment of his imagination! Message # 186. Reply to #184 Date: 08/17/89. Time: 00:35:58. Read 16 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : Uh oh! RECEIVED Red dye #7? I gues that explains the shade of the pigment! Message # 187. Date: 08/19/89. Time: 03:25:03. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Me Subj : Existance Well this is a fine thing, then! I guess, for all intensive BBS privledges, I'll just have to cease existing... (And it has nothing to do with Berkeley) !!! GAVISCON !!! -Before I go, I'd like you all to consider Racer X for Obfuscate. I think he's been looking promising lately. Message # 188. Date: 09/16/89. Time: 23:13:00. Read 25 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : The New Obfuscates! Subj : Greetings! PERMIFIED Hail, and well met. I'd like to greet all the new obfuscates, and may you all find a probiscus underlying the corporation. But that's not the point. And neither is that. Being the most senior member of the obfuscates, and founder of the name, (hah, I bet the rest of you didn't even gnow that, did you? Yup, looked it up in a thesaurus all by myself) I think that Hack's and Music Man's choices are good ones. Therefore. Lynx, Peggy, Racer X, and Yellowbeard do hereby have the infamous non- distinction of putting the --==OBFUSCATE==-- symbol beneath their name, if they so choose to do so. Please gnote the way it's supposed to be done, though, I've seen a few that weren't quite right. Anyway, there you are. Yeah, right there. HACK Gnote: Give them full access to this board, kinda silly that they can only read. Especially since there will be nothing TO read if you don't give them write access. Also, I'd like to apologize to Lynx, for our ridiculousness. We were being entirely too amoeba-like. So, maybe you were wondering who else had this dubious distinction? Well, me too, let's see if I can remember: Lex Luthor: Founder of Dillusion (absent) Lord Cirdan: Founder of the Gnome's Castle (psuedo-absent) HACK MAN: First Hackbot Obfuscate The Music Man: First Insane Obfuscate Gaviscon Aviscenna: First Dead Time-travelling Obfuscate (absent) Frammis Man: Founder of the Partisans of Parenthesis (absent) Cleric Ilsaram: First Obfuscate awarded the : for nifty stories. (absent) Pizza Man: First Pizza-related Obfuscate Tasslehoff Burfoot: Least Gnown Obfuscate Lynx: Most Tortured by his Nomination Obfuscate Peggy: First female Obfuscate Racer X: First Obfuscate to have a one letter last name. YellowBeard: First Obfuscate that was Most Gnoted for his folicles. Did I miss anyone? If so, I'm entirely sorry, and you have every right to send me all your cash....all your cash...all your cash...all your cash... all your cash...all your cash... Ok, you can wake up now. You will remember nothing but the part about the cash. L8r... :::Lord Cirdan Message # 189. Date: 09/16/89. Time: 23:56:13. Read 19 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : Hack Man Subj : By the way... RECEIVED I still have that little piece of paper that says: HACK MAN WAS HERE C - - - The donation was truly appreciated, though it got me no where. Perhaps I should send it back to you? To the rest of you: The Gnome's Castle was run on an Apple //e, with only two disk drives. That is approximately only 256K of disk space. Just imagine all the fun stuff I coulda done with what I have now... sigh. Well, maybe I'll live in Ventura County again some day, and the Gnome's Castle will return. Sigh. On the other hand, I am attempting to start up something similar on a computer on Internet. Internet is a network that allows you to log onto any other computer in the network (and there are thousands) as long as you have an account there. Also, you can chat with anyone else on the net, and do other neat things. I strongly urge you guys to see what can be done about getting a public mainframe that is connectedtou Internet in your county. I've heard that Santa Monica has already done that, and anyone can get an account there. Anyway, the cool thing is that you could all call there, and have a real-time chat, even with me and Gaviscon. So anyway, maybe you should look into it. L8r... :::Lord Cirdan Message # 191. Date: 12/14/89. Time: 05:07:07. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : DOINK ONE OF THE NEW OBFUSCATES WENT AND REMOVED POSTING ACCESS TO THE SUB BOARD FROM SEVERAL OF THE OTHER NEW OBFUSCATES WITHOUT REMOVING HIS OWN ACCESS AT THE SAME TIME. I'VE GONE AHEAD AND CORRECTED THE SITUATION, SO IF ANYBODY NOTICED THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO POST AND THEN SUDDENLY THEY WERENT ABLE TO, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO SO AGAIN. C- - - Message # 192. Date: 12/15/89. Time: 23:17:35. Read 15 Times. From : Lynx To : HACK MAN Subj : RECEIVED Huh? Who are you refering to? I was never able to post here (or at least if I was I never did that I can recall), and then when you made me a co-sysop I gave myself write access, because I thought I was supposed to have it. Anyway, what's going on? Lynx -confused Message # 193. Reply to #191 Date: 12/16/89. Time: 18:04:29. Read 14 Times. From : peggy To : HACK MAN Subj : DOINK RECEIVED Oh, my gosh!!! after ALL these months...and I'm stumped for words!! Message # 194. Date: 12/24/89. Time: 13:29:25. Read 15 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : recipient Subj : hmm The thing is in the thing. Wakka wakka wakka. Deeds not words. This is this. And vairious other assorted smegma. :CI --==youknow==-- Comments : NO WAY!=1 Message # 195. Date: 12/28/89. Time: 00:32:10. Read 13 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : A Capital N Subj : Tomatoes Um.... Oh, never mind. :::Lord Cirdan Well... Nah, forget it. Or froget it, for that matter. Message # 196. Date: 12/31/89. Time: 03:44:33. Read 16 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : Lord Cirdan Subj : tom's mate's toes RECEIVED Which matter was it you were speaking, metaphorically, of? :Ci :cI :ci :CI danglingallovertheplace Message # 197. Reply to #194 Date: 01/14/90. Time: 19:10:55. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Cleric Ilsaram Subj : hmm RECEIVED Smegma? Message # 198. Date: 03/31/90. Time: 16:54:00. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Subj : RECEIVED This sub is quickly becoming quite fugacious! Such evanescence is intollerable! Post! Message # 199. Date: 07/12/90. Time: 01:47:42. Read 18 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : DOINK Subj : Wow! A post! Tah dah! I really meant it when I said I'd post everywhere! Well, I'd just like to say that, every though she's gone and we'll never ever hear from her again, I believe that Candy ought to be granted Obfusactory status. Personally, I'd like to turn this into the Dillusionist equivilant of a one-sided holy war. I'll go to all lengths to see that she's posthumously granted the title she deserves. I plan to chop my own status in two, lending part of it to her memory. Then, I will painstakingly grow back the small part I had to give up until I am once again a full Obfuscate. Then, I'll lend out another small part, and so on... That way, I will eventually grow back enough to create a 100% full Obfuscate and give it to candy. I've always wanted to go through pain and sacrifice for a girl who would never realize my dedication. It's the type of thing good dramas are made of... !!! GAVISCO -=@ Margin M --==OBFUSCAT Message # 200. Date: 07/12/90. Time: 23:28:25. Read 39 Times. From : Lynx To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Gav's one-sided holy war... RECEIVED Who's Candy? °±²Û²±°L °±²Û²±°y °±²Û²±°n °±²Û²±°x --==OBFUSCATE==-- #200. Message # 201. Reply to #200 Date: 07/13/90. Time: 00:04:17. Read 18 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Lynx Subj : Gav's one-sided holy war... RECEIVED Who's candy? Why... Don't you remember? Do we forget so soon? She was the ultimate in raw Obfuscate material. She was like an anti-Hack, usually typing only in lowercase. It was only a year ago! I feel so... so... torn when I think that her memory only rests with me... Hm. She DID exist, didn't she? I mean, I didn't just imagine it all, did I? True, she's not in the user list any more, and TRUE, I can't find any old messages in the Obfuscatorium that were written by her, but... No, I refuse to go mad! It's the wrong season for that sort of thing. I usually go mad in the spring! !!! GAVISCO -=@ Margin M --==OBFUSCAT Message # 202. Reply to #201 Date: 07/13/90. Time: 17:21:56. Read 17 Times. From : Lynx To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Gav's one-sided holy war... RECEIVED Actually, you see, you are just imagining all this right now... Lynx Message # 203. Date: 07/15/90. Time: 15:17:00. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Imagination RECEIVED That can't be true. If I'm just imagining this, where am I really? !!! GAVISCO -=@ Margin M --==OBFUSCAT Message # 204. Reply to #201 Date: 07/16/90. Time: 05:25:10. Read 17 Times. From : Racer X To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Gav's one-sided holy war... RECEIVED I don't remember Candy. Did she leave before I started calling? I've been calling since January of '89. Racer X Message # 205. Reply to #203 Date: 07/16/90. Time: 05:27:01. Read 17 Times. From : Racer X To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Imagination RECEIVED If you only open your eyes, you'll see the rubber room. Racer X Message # 206. Date: 07/16/90. Time: 17:14:13. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Racer X Subj : candy RECEIVED Really? Then I don't think I'll open my eyes. It's much more fun here. As for candy, I believe you were around at the same time, as was Lynx, Peggy, and all the "newer" Obfuscates. I remember reading old Temple posts about a big debate as who we should let become Obfuscates, and I'd always supported candy, often solely if I remember correctly... Which just goes to support the idea that I imagined the whole thing. How annoying. !!! GAVISCON -=@ Margin Ma --==OBFUSCATE -Growing Back Message # 207. Reply to #206 Date: 07/17/90. Time: 23:32:50. Read 15 Times. From : Racer X To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : candy RECEIVED I wish I could open my eyes and close them again so I could see something better. That would be breaking the barriers of two realities (catatonia from within a catatonic trip). If you think this is fun, think what could be on the other side. Racer X -=]Obfuscate[=- -Achieve mindbend. Trip The Hex. Message # 208. Reply to #207 Date: 07/19/90. Time: 00:21:47. Read 17 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Racer X Subj : candy RECEIVED I think that if I were able to "open my eyes" I probably wouldn't be able to shut them again. It's like waking up from a dream, then trying to go back to sleep and continue it again... If I were really in a padded room right now, and I were to just "open my eyes" and return to sanity, I don't think it would be possible to get back here. (The same goes for any other sort of "higher consciousness" you might think of rather than the padded room scen- ario... "Brain in a jar", or "Detached consciousness", or "Kansas"...) Personally, I'd be afraid of opening my eyes. If whatever is there is extreme enough to make me imagine this place, I sure as hell wouldn't want to go back! Now, if candy were there, then maybe I'd chance it to make sure that she DOES exist and that instead of imagining her, I just imagined everything else. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- Message # 209. Reply to #208 Date: 07/20/90. Time: 15:20:17. Read 16 Times. From : Racer X To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : candy RECEIVED Maybe Candy opened her eyes. Maybe we all will at some time. The shock of being hit by an eighteen-wheeler would probably do it. Racer X Message # 210. Reply to #209 Date: 07/21/90. Time: 00:52:30. Read 14 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Racer X Subj : candy RECEIVED It shouldn't work that way. If candy "opened her eyes" then why do I still remember her, but everyone else doesn't? Personally, I'll go with the idea that candy is "real" and that all of you are "imagined" and that I'm just blending the two worlds. Hmm... I always thought that I gnew who all my imaginary friends were. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- #210. Message # 211. Reply to #210 Date: 07/23/90. Time: 00:47:38. Read 14 Times. From : Racer X To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : candy RECEIVED Maybe you and Candy are (were) (will be) in the same rubber room. She could've awakened and effected you before-whatever they do to those that awaken. You gnow of her from reality. She never existed in your Dreamstate. If she was not in your imagination with the rest of us, how do you expect us to remember her? Racer X Message # 212. Date: 07/23/90. Time: 21:53:54. Read 14 Times. From : peggy To : Gaviscon Subj : Candy I find it SO utterly fascinating that no sooner does someone bring up the subject of Candy, then voila!! she appears! Me thinks her alter ego sent her a message saying it was time for her to reappear. Strange.....strange......strange................ Message # 214. Reply to #201 Date: 08/05/90. Time: 23:23:34. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Gav's one-sided holy war... RECEIVED CANDY? WHO'S CANDY? C- - - ????? Message # 216. Reply to #199 Date: 08/05/90. Time: 23:44:42. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Wow! A post! RECEIVED BUT YOU NEED PERFECT CONDITIONS TO GROW AN OBFUSCATE. YOU CAN'T JUST PLANT ONE ANYWHERE. C- - - Message # 217. Reply to #208 Date: 08/05/90. Time: 23:45:24. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : candy RECEIVED ALL OF THIS IS A DREAM. INCLUDING YOU. I ONCE OPENED MY EYES AND SAW THE REAL REALITY BEHIND IT. IT WAS KIND OF LIKE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU CLOSE YOUR EYES AND PRESS ON YOUR EYEBALLS ONLY IN 3D. I CLOSED MY EYES RIGHT AWAY AND I WAS OK. ANYWAY, I FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO IT. WHAT YOU DO IS YOU GO TO SLEEP FOR AWHILE AND THEN YOU WAKE UP. HOWEVER, YOU HAVE TO WAKE UP WITH OUT REALIZING THAT YOU ARE AWAKE, THEN YOU OPEN YOUR EYES WITHOUT REALIZING THAT YOU HAVE OPENED THEM. C- - - Message # 218. Date: 12/25/90. Time: 17:58:54. Read 20 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : ALL, a confession Subj : CANDY!!!! Candy? Candy was, and is, me! I have a nasty habit of calling as other users. I got bored, so Candy called. A few suspected, but none were certain... Oh well, it's out I've confessed (and feel SO much better) Gav: Candy thanks you for your support Everyone else: Candy gives you the finger for forgetting her! But Then: If "a" candy has called in the last 8 months, it wasn't me. It's not rare that I log on as another....remember JOE BLOW? I've been some of the most popluar female users (heh heh heh)!!! (Why female? because there's so few of 'em!) Dillusion at it's best..... (Peggers gets points for gnowing, instinctively, that she was not a she!) The Music Man -=obfuscate=- So much for Candy calling again.... (I wonder if they'll be able to figure out who I have been calling as for the last eight months....................?) Message # 219. Date: 12/25/90. Time: 18:06:48. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : All Dillusionary its Subj : The SUB-OP What do you say we all apply ourselves and make the non-existent sub-op existent?? What do you suppose it would exist as? Message # 220. Reply to #218 Date: 12/27/90. Time: 23:31:04. Read 20 Times. From : Racer X To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : CANDY!!!! RECEIVED Who's Candy? Racer X/WFM #220. Message # 221. Reply to #219 Date: 12/27/90. Time: 23:31:53. Read 16 Times. From : Racer X To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : The SUB-OP RECEIVED The Temple subop. Racer X/WFM Message # 222. Reply to #220 Date: 12/28/90. Time: 01:05:59. Read 22 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Racer X Subj : CANDY!!!! RECEIVED You people sure forget quickly! Does anything ever change here? It's like everyone is in a state of obfuscated semi-existence! Same place, same thing..... Then what? I noticed how people ignore messages that are not to or from them, or of any obvious interest to them. Some people don't even read all the sub-boards! It's so typical, we only read what we want to read...and where do we end up? Same place, same thing.... So, has anyone thought of any new discussion topics since I've been gone? DOes anybody remember me? Did I ever exist here? Or, uh, was that just a bad dream?? Message # 223. Reply to #222 Date: 12/28/90. Time: 15:03:05. Read 20 Times. From : Racer X To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : CANDY!!!! RECEIVED That's a good question. Who are you? Are you sure you're not really this Candy person now pretending to be The Music Man? Racer X/WFM Message # 224. Date: 12/31/90. Time: 14:37:01. Read 24 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : candy Subj : ARGH, I say, Argh! My heart is torn asunder and my brain is melded together! How dare you mess with my mind that way? I have enough trouble getting my mind suitably messed myself. Wouldn't you gnow that the devotion of my life turns out to be com- pletely unreal?!??! Is this simple a cruel joke cast upon me from the Fates? Am I destined to live such a fantasy world that even I cannot tell any of my imaginary friends from the simply irrational? Oh depression depression! I'll devote the rest of my existance here on out to poetry of dispair and deeply emotional cinema dramas. snif. (You WOULD have to catch me in a deeply romantic, emotionally turbulent per- iod in my vacation...) !!! GAVISCON !!! SCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- n Master @=- -Trapped on Terra on Terra -Now what am I going to do as an Obfuscate and a half? I was saving up little pieces of myself to give to candy to grant her Obfuscate status, and have since then grown it back, but am now stuck with all those pieces I have saved... Message # 226. Reply to #224 Date: 01/02/91. Time: 01:16:54. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : ARGH, I say, Argh! RECEIVED SAVE THOSE EXTRA PORTIONS OF OBFUSCATION IN YOUR BELLY BUTTON. THE BELLY BUTTON MOLD MAY BE ABLE TO UTILIZE IT TO EVOLVE INTO SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. C- - - P.S. I SUSPECTED IT ALL ALONG. Message # 227. Reply to #224 Date: 01/02/91. Time: 04:28:54. Read 19 Times. From : Racer X To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : ARGH, I say, Argh! RECEIVED So who is candy anyway? Racer X/WFM Message # 228. Date: 01/03/91. Time: 17:14:50. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Anyone real Subj : candy Apparrantly candy isn't. candy didn't exist. That's who candy is. candy is just an idea, a thought. I may not have any real friends, it seems. I can no longer judge between real and imaginary. All I gnow is that richer will be the world of dramatic poetry of dispair, snif The only way candy may live is as an imaginary, and with The Music Man's per- mission, perhaps I shall one day imagine her myself, along with my other im- aginary friends. Maybe I'll even let my half-Obfuscatism grow into a full one so as to give it to her. Think of it... The first imaginary Obfuscate! !!! GAVISCON !!! SCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- n Master @=- -) FTAS (- (- -Trapped on Terra. on Terra. Message # 230. Date: 01/05/91. Time: 03:40:28. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : OBFUSCATRONIX SOME OF YOU TRYING TO DO OBFUSCATED STUFF IN YOUR MESSAGES HAVE PROBABLY NOTICED THAT IT ACTS WIERDLY. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GNOW ABOUT THIS AGAIN SINCE IT'S MORE POPULAR ALL OF A SUDDEN. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE VT100 MODE IS ALWAYS IN INSERT MODE WHEN YOU ARE TYPING IN A MESSAGE AND THEN WHEN IT PLAYS BACK A MESSAGE IT'S IN OVERTYPE MODE. THIS MAKES MESSAGES WITH BACKSPACING IN IT LOOK REALLY WIERD WHILE YOU ARE TYPING THEM IN BUT STILL LOOK NORMAL WHEN YOU READ THEM BACK. THE EASIEST FIX FOR THIS PROBLEM IS TO USE ANSI MODE (BUT MOST IBM PROGRAMS DON'T WORK RIGHT IN ANSI MODE BECAUSE IBM ANSI OMITS THE INSERT CHARACTER COMMAND (IN THIS CASE I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU TEMPORARILY CHANGE YOUR TERMINAL TYPE TO "SLOW ANSI" BEFORE YOU START TO ENTER A MESAGE WITH BACKSPACING IN IT (SLOW ANSI SHOULD WORK OK, EVEN WHILE YOUR TERM PROGRAM IS STILL IN VT100 EMULATION MODE))) WHILE TYPING BACKSPACED MESSAGES THAT WAY YOUR MESSAGE WILL LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THE FINAL PRODUCT WHILE YOU ARE TYPING IT IN. C- - - RFSOP PRESIDENT OBFUSCITRONIX P.S. I LIKE LYNX'S IDEA TO CALL IT OBFUSCATRONIX. FOR ALL OF YOU THAT DIDN'T GO TO COMDEX WITH US (WHICH IS ALL OF YOU) OBFUSCATRONIX IS THE NAME OF OUR IMAGINARY COMPANY. THE NAME WAS QUITE WELL RECIEVED BY THE WAY. SINCE IT IS AN IMAGINARY COMPANY, I THINK I WILL MAKE CANDY THE SECRETARY TREASURER. #230. Message # 231. Reply to #230 Date: 01/05/91. Time: 15:17:32. Read 22 Times. From : Lynx To : HACK MAN Subj : OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED I was wondering about that.... Okay, so Candy is in the company now... can I have an affair with her behind Gav's back? Lynx VP in Charge of Research, Obfuscatronix --==OBFUSCATE==-- p.s. Hack, I though of a nifty Idea... why not make infinite messages terminate to the next line of the message So that you can do some neat-o infinite thingy, then clean it up on a line following it... I say this mainly because 90% of the time I end up reading my funky messages and get stuck with some terrible color combos like green on light blue. Also, it would be neat to have it that way for other reasons. Message # 232. Reply to #231 Date: 01/05/91. Time: 16:27:29. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Lynx Subj : OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE THINGY ABOUT HAVING IT TERMINATE ON THE NEXT LINE OF THE MESSAGE. I MEAN IF YOU MAKE AN INFINITELY REPEATING LINE THEN HOW IS IT GOING TO EVER GET TO THE NEXT LINE? C- - - Message # 233. Reply to #231 Date: 01/06/91. Time: 07:26:00. Read 22 Times. From : Racer X To : Lynx Subj : OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED By the way, did the thing I tried work all right? I'm back in ASCII again, so I don't gnow. Racer X/WFM Message # 234. Date: 01/06/91. Time: 20:46:56. Read 19 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Real people? Subj : candy Well, I'm happy that candy is finally receiving the due credit that she deserves. I think she'd make an excellent president, and on her behalf, I approve and thank you. As for you, Lynx, I heard that! Next time I suggest you address me as that you never gnow what's real again! !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- Message # 235. Reply to #233 Date: 01/07/91. Time: 00:18:30. Read 22 Times. From : Lynx To : Racer X Subj : OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED yeah it kinda worked... but next time you should put a clear screen at the beginning. if the reader was at the bottom of the screen when they got to your message it got slightly fudged Lynx Message # 236. Reply to #235 Date: 01/07/91. Time: 04:32:17. Read 18 Times. From : Racer X To : Lynx Subj : OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED I'll have to work on that. If I can figure this out as well as I figured MCI, I might be able to do some neat stuff. And Obfuscatronix has many more features. Racer X/WFM Message # 238. Date: 01/08/91. Time: 00:55:46. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : USERS NAME OK. THE CAT'S OUT OF THE BAG. THAT'S RIGHT. I WASN'T PERSONALLY PRONOUNCING DOINKNOBNESS UPON YOU. I'VE ADDED A NEW FEATURE. YOU CAN NOW QUOTE THE READERS NAME AND PASSWORD. NAME = ^\^O PASSWORD = ^\^W WHEN YOU TYPE THIS THE NAME OR PASSWORD WILL NOT IMMEDIATELY APPEAR ON THE SCREEN. LEAVE PLENTY OF ROOM ON THAT LINE SINCE SOME NAMES AND PASSWORDS ARE LONGER THAN OTHERS. C- - - Message # 239. Date: 01/08/91. Time: 10:36:01. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : SPEAKING OF THE 3AM CLUB I WAS PLANNING ON HAVING A MEETING THIS FRIDAY THE 11TH. C- - - Message # 240 -- Private. #240. Message # 241. Date: 01/08/91. Time: 22:22:55. Read 26 Times. From : Lynx To : All OBFUSCATEs Subj : Doink! I move to approve this (see figure a) as our new official OBFUSCATE sign-off. figure a. --==OBFUSCATE==-- (Note: It is only a minor change, and we could even have different colors for different ranks just like in star trek TNG, or just have a different color for each major person (all, of course), just like in Star Trek TNG(GRIN). ) Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 242. Reply to #241 Date: 01/08/91. Time: 22:54:50. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Lynx Subj : Doink! RECEIVED IS THAT A MACRO OR DO YOU TYPE IT IN EVERY TIME? C- - - P.S. HOW DO YOU GENERATE THE ^H? Message # 243. Reply to #241 Date: 01/10/91. Time: 00:52:24. Read 17 Times. From : Lynx To : Lynx Subj : Doink! RECEIVED It's a macro... and I gererate the ^H the same way I generate the ^M at the end of the macro. I Type a '^' then an 'H' and wow, there it is! Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 245. Reply to #243 Date: 01/13/91. Time: 03:13:57. Read 22 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Lynx Subj : Doink! RECEIVED YEAH, I FIGURED IT OUT RIGHT AFTER I HUNG UP. DUH. UC- - - C- - C- C BURP! --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 246. Date: 02/23/91. Time: 01:05:14. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : NEW OBFUSCATES READ THE OBFUSCA BULLETINS ON THE MAIN MENU. C- - - Message # 247. Reply to #29 Date: 02/25/91. Time: 06:27:06. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : What if C-A-T really spelled "DOG" RECEIVED PERMIFIED Thot wos preggy daal, Musid Mon. Bug ig gokes o while go cype in ghis dace. +++Trovebusger --==ABFUSDOGE==-- Message # 248. Reply to #89 Date: 02/25/91. Time: 20:10:21. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : SYSOP Subj : Ticketstubs... RECEIVED Were they sort of like bugs, or more like kumquats hanging in a tree and swaying with the wind? +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 249. Reply to #97 Date: 02/25/91. Time: 20:15:04. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : SNARGLEDEGOP RECEIVED a. Back in my freshman high school summer Intro to Physical Science class, our entire class destroyed 126 test tubes (yes, we kept records). I guess you could say we had a fondness for test tubes, although it was kind of strange. b. Neither green nor yellow, but I stick them in the refrigerator until they're black! c. An alien just cleared my cranial memory, so I forgot the last question. +++who am I buster? --==Ob Who Skates?==-- DOINK! Oh, now I remember... I wish I didn't! Message # 250. Reply to #103 Date: 02/25/91. Time: 20:21:13. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : NEAT NEW THINGY RECEIVED Do you mean if I do a ^/ ^V, I can tell you that you suck / times over? +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- I bet I blew that, but I'm trying. Very trying... #250. Message # 251. Reply to #132 Date: 02/25/91. Time: 20:37:18. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : More yak facts RECEIVED Yak! Yak! Yak! All you do is yak! +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE = = - - I ' v e s l i p p e d a c u r s o r . . . Message # 252. Reply to #249 Date: 02/25/91. Time: 22:16:54. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : SNARGLEDEGOP RECEIVED OK. YOU PASS AS A MERE WIERDO AND NOT