From "The Retreat" (805-483-3104): Subboard - "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" Message # 2. Date: 07/23/88. Time: 07:08:43. Read 39 Times. From : SYSOP To : ALL Subj : THIS BOARD PERMIFIED THIS BOARD IS JUST FOR YOU OBFUSCATES. NO ONE ELSE HAS ACCESS. SO, LET'S TALK ABOUT SOMETHING REALLY OBFUSCATIONARY. C- - - Message # 3. Date: 08/03/88. Time: 19:16:24. Read 51 Times. From : SYSOP To : ALL Subj : OPTIONS FOR OBFUSCATES PERMIFIED I HAVE PUT A COUPLE OF SPECIAL 'OBFUSCATE' OPTIONS ON THE MAIN MENU. "X" WILL GIVE YOU A LIST OF SECRET BULLETINS THAT ONLY OBFUSCATES CAN SEE. "Y" WILL ALLOW YOU TO ADD A QUOTE TO THE LIST OF LOGON QUOTES. ONLY OBFUSCATES CAN DO THIS. MORE WILL BE COMING IN THE FUTURE. C- - - Message # 4. Date: 08/06/88. Time: 09:29:49. Read 32 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : all Subj : test PERMIFIED Just going toattempting to do a little of this stuff ! ! ! Message # 5. Date: 08/08/88. Time: 15:55:18. Read 30 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : whomever Subj : Oh Wow! I'm Dilluded! Message # 6. Date: 08/08/88. Time: 00:48:56. Read 28 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : TMM Subj : concentration RECEIVED Better than being diluted. Although, I HAVE noticed your recent lack of concentration in some of the most basic mental functions lately. Including a, well, I seem to have forgotten at the moment. CI Message # 7. Reply to #6 Date: 08/08/88. Time: 06:47:29. Read 24 Times. From : SYSOP To : Cleric Ilsaram Subj : concentration RECEIVED WHAT WERE WE TALKING ABOUT ANYWAY???? C- - - Message # 8. Date: 08/08/24. Time: 18:03:53. Read 25 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : CI Subj : concentration Something Violet! I think. (NO I DONT!) Yes I do!!! (Only when you feel like it!) Prove it! (Only if I feel like it) Do you? (NO!) Then piss off! (Show me the toilet) Open your mouth! (Ugh ergh mugga ouk) Never mind... Message # 9. Date: 08/205/8. Time: 15:04:52. Read 27 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : God Subj : Now this, I gotta try. You went and changed them? How cruel. I guess the Gnomish tricks were too wide- spred, anyway. I guess? Huh? Who's talking? Don't repeat me. Oh yeah! That's right! I'm typing this, aren't I? What a concept! Don't you guys feel a little bit bugged that BBS's constantly repeat what you type? Stop that! Shut up! I hate that! My brother used to do that to me when i was a little kid! Quit it! I'll tell mom! Waaaah! I can't hear you.. I can't hear you! You're not bothering me. Go ahead and repeat me, I'm not listening. No. Well, now that I've established that it's REALLY not bother- ing me, I want to ask you guys if I can join the 3 PM club. (Even if it IS past 3 PM.) My favorite time of day is approaching. 3:14. It is so much like pi. You guys are losing out, think- ing that 8-8-88 is powerful. Just you wait un- til 3:14 on 3-14. And, better yet, you can wait 3,366 years, (a very powerful num- ber. Two double figures one of them double the other. There's something cosmic there.) then we'll see 3:14 15.9 seconds, on 2-6-5358. (well, not really 3,366 years, unless it's some other time, which it is.) Oop! Gotta go! Taking up too much access time again! I'll BCNUL8r. !!!!!!!!! G!!! GA !!! GAV!!! GAVISCON !!!.l No, that didn't work. !/-\!/-/ex .l Message # 10. Date: 08/17/89. Time: 03:17:07. Read 35 Times. From : SYSOP To : ALL Subj : NEW OBFUSCATE! PERMIFIED I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THE ADDITION OF A NEW OBFUSCATE TO OUR RANKS. HIS NAME IS ÈTASSLEHOFF BURRFOOT! IM SURE THAT HE WILL BE A VALUABLE CONTRIBUTION FROM NOW ON! SOME OF YOU MAY REMEMBER HIM FROM THE OLD GNOME'S CASTLE DAYS. BYE THE WAY, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE NEVER ON THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION OF THE OLD GNOMES CASTLE. THIS BOARD WAS TRADITIONALLY THE TRUE "ELITE" BOARD IN THE COUNTY. BY THAT I MEAN THIS IS THE BOARD WHERE THE TRULY INTELLIGENT STUFF HAPPENED. ALSO THIS WAS THE BOARD WERE THE MOST INSANE THINGS HAPPENED. I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE THAT WAY AGAIN. PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TRULY INSANE, OR INTELLIGENT, OR INSANELY INTELLIGENT TO SAY, SAY IT HERE. I HAVE DREDGED UP A LOT MORE STUFF FROM THE OLD GNOMES CASTLE THAT I WILL POST. I WILL POST SEVERAL THINGS FROM THE OLD TEMPLE SO THAT YOU CAN KINDA GET THE IDEA. IN FACT I WOULD DO IT TONIGHT BUT I AM KINDA TIRED. OKCUL8R C- - - Comments : OBFUSCATED=49857 HUH?=50371 DOINK=50885 WHO CARES=51399 BRAVO!=51913 #10. Message # 11. Date: 08/17/89. Time: 05:46:24. Read 26 Times. From : SYSOP To : ALL Subj : GUESS WHAT PERMIFIED AS IT TURNS OUT I'M NOT TIRED AFTER ALL. IN FACT, I CAN'T GET TO SLEEP. HOW BORING. AT LEAST I HAVE A BBS TO TYPE AT. AT LEAST THE HACKMODEM WILL TALK BACK AT ME AT TEN TO 6AM. HEY GAV, YOU CAN JOIN THE 3AM CLUB JUST AS LONG AS YOU LEAVE A MESSAGE AT EXACTLY PI AM. THE ONLY CATCH IS, YOU HAVE TO SOLVE PI TO THE LAST DIGIT SO THAT YOU CAN FIND OUT JUST EXACTLY WHEN PI-AM IS. NYUCK NYUCK. C- - - Comments : OBFUSCATED=49857 HUH?=50371 DOINK=50885 WHO CARES=51399 BRAVO!=51913 Message # 12. Date: 08/17/08. Time: 15:58:54. Read 25 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : whomever Subj : pi am PERMIFIED PI am is easy, first use pi to figure out the circumpherence of your clock, then divide your result by the ratio of the length of the big hand to the little hand, then multiply that by the area of the second hand rounded off to the nearest square nanometer. Now divide the result by the volume of the clock, and you'll have an exact time to log onto the 3 am club. If that doesn't work, give up. Nothing happens there anyway! -TMM Message # 13. Date: 08/17/08. Time: 19:37:29. Read 22 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : TMM Subj : clocks RECEIVED PERMIFIED You fool! Multiply by the volume of the clock, then subtract the result from itself, then add 42! It worked for me2..........2..... CI Message # 14. Date: 08/18/88. Time: 14:12:50. Read 23 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : whomever Subj : pi PERMIFIED Here's pi: pi 1 1 1 1 1 1 -- = - -- +- -- +- -- +..... 4 1 3 5 7 9 11 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406.... Also, pi over four equals four times the tangent to the negative one power times one half plus the quantity of tangent to the negative one times one over three. or Pi over four equals the quantity of four times the tangent to the negative one power times one fifth subtracted from the quantity of tangent to the negative one times one over two hundred thirty nine. Any of these will help you figure out pi to as many places as you want. (continued) ....28620899862803482534211706798214808651328230664709384460955058223172535.... There's pi to as many places as I have it recorded, anyone know of more? THE MUSIC MAN Message # 15. Date: 08/18/88. Time: 14:52:19. Read 23 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : TMM Subj : pi RECEIVED PERMIFIED I've memorized it past that... At one time. Unfortunately, I've slipped, and now I've only memorized it a few digits past the hundreath... One of these daze, I review it a again, and I'll gnow it to 147 places, like I used to... But, as the pi guy, I can tell you 206 digits: (some of you may want to skip to the next message at this point.) pi=3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406- 286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359- 40812848111745028410270193852110555964462294895493038196442881... Actually, it's 205 digits, not counting the decimal place, I think. I can also get a book froma math teacher I once had that has pi to 10,000 places> So when school starts, I am going to photocopy it, and I can get as many places as you want, up to 10,000. I suprized myself! I could type up to 124 digits before I had to look at the sheet. I think I'll go memorize a few more... BCNUL8r. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- /exx /eex /extra space in Hack's drive. Message # 16. Date: 08/18/88. Time: 23:10:13. Read 20 Times. From : Tasslehoff Burfoot To : The rest of the gang... Subj : I don't supose. PERMIFIED Does anyone out there gnow anything about this new appearance of Lord Scum? Is it a cruel joke? Or is it memorex?? What shall be done? Who is to blame? And why has that person stuck terror into the hearts of the Users? Why? Who? This deserves a nice discusion... And persicution... >The Tazz< "Just the fact's mam.." - George Bush Message # 17. Date: 08/19/88. Time: 10:52:40. Read 20 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : gav Subj : PI PERMIFIED I see that you are as addicted to pi as am I. more so even. I joined PMA (Pi Memorizers Anonymous) and kicked the habit. Now I only have it memorized to 20, but if I'm not careful, I memorize more, and get close to going crazy as a result. I would love to have it recorded to 10,000 places though. If yu have the time and patience, type in as many as possible. We could even have it listed under the obfuscates bulletins as "pi". woudln't that be nice. Then all could share in the delight of seeing the worlds most misunderstood and misquoted numberin existance. And we'll dedicate it to you, the PI GUY ! -TMM (or you could join PMS, the Pi memorizers society, that wouldn't be a bad idea for a sub-board!) Message # 18. Date: 08/19/88. Time: 19:21:09. Read 51 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : TMM Subj : sub-board RECEIVED PERMIFIED That is a terrible idea!!!! Why not the CI board, instead?? CI told you so Message # 19. Date: 08/20/88. Time: 02:02:30. Read 31 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : CI Subj : ci PERMIFIED yeah, but to how many places do you have Ci memorized to? Message # 20. Date: 08/20/88. Time: 18:24:34. Read 31 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : uh.... I dunno. Subj : ci, pi, or di PERMIFIED I found the book at B. Dalton the other day (You can call me "Books") in which it was recorded to 10,000, back in the science and techinology section. It is called "The history of Pi." (Sounds boring) In two pages, they showed 10,000 places. I wish I could just buy those two pages. But, with my negative cash flow, I can't afford to spend $11.95 on it right now, so wait until our school system drags us back into the classrooms, and I'll have that posted. (This BBS CAN handle 10K, can't it?) Maybe it would be a better idea to Upload it. That is, in case there is someone out there who can't skip to the next message for some reason, and they have to wait through 10,000 numbers. Hm. Maybe it could be fun. I wonder what kind of insults I'd get from outraged users if I did it on the Tavern sub-board? I only havee CI written out to 13 places... Sorry. You'll have to go out and buy the book: "The History of Pi." !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- ___/ ___/ /| | The "Pi Guy" /| | | |/ | |/ Mr. Shuester, the Buena physics teacher, did the same thing as a kid. He had to limit it to 20 digits, too. The Tazz< A formal complaint, by any other name. Message # 55. Date: 11/13/88. Time: 16:57:06. Read 25 Times. From : GOD To : All Subj : Me PERMIFIED GOD has spoken. Heed his words. ^^^ GOD ^^^ Message # 56. Reply to #55 Date: 11/14/88. Time: 00:14:08. Read 25 Times. From : SYSOP To : GOD Subj : Me RECEIVED PERMIFIED SAY, GOD. WHAT'S NEW? IS THIS A LOCAL CALL FROM WHERE YOU ARE? C- - - Message # 57. Date: 11/26/88. Time: 10:10:48. Read 26 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : GOD Subj : ? RECEIVED You had better be nice, and act accordingly, otherwise I may decide to stop believing in you and, as a result, you will most likely cease to exist! Besides, there are enough gods here already, and you are probably cramping the style of some of them! Don't you gnow that you don't belong here??? This is the temple, the HOLY TEMPLE OF DILLUSION!!!! And no mere mono- theistic entities are allowed to reside here without expressed consent of the SYSOP!! Now GO AWAY!! You're not wanted here!! Nobody likes you, everybody hates you, why don't you eat a worm ?!?!?!?! -TMM (I like to tread on narrow ground, that's all! Me and him go WAY back!!) Message # 58. Date: 12/03/88. Time: 14:10:24. Read 24 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : God Subj : Sorry RECEIVED I forgot you were the sub-op! (It's ok, nobody reads anything here anyway, including you!) Message # 59. Reply to #58 Date: 12/03/88. Time: 18:03:33. Read 24 Times. From : GOD To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Sorry RECEIVED Well, if you cease believing in me means that I will cease to exist, then I surely have ceased to exist due to your ceasure of thinking, which results in a similar ceasure of believing. Fortunately many others still think, thus I am alive and well up here. And to answer your question, Ray, yes, all calls are local to me. I exist everywhere, and all of the time. (Sort of like Santa Claus on Christmas night.) And one finnal word of advise to The Music Man: If you had ate as many worms as I have, then you'd know what kind of insult that was. We're very displeased with you up here. Just hope the devil finds out that you are dead at least a half an hour after you are up here... ^^^ GOD ^^^ Message # 60. Reply to #59 Date: 12/31/77. Time: 15:39:51. Read 23 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : GOD Subj : Sorry RECEIVED You don't exist, so stop thinking. CI #60. Message # 61. Date: 12/04/88. Time: 13:31:16. Read 27 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : DEAR GOD Subj : To You Actually, me and the devil are considering starting up a franchise down here in Oxnard (HA HA, just kidding, a little holy humor there!) It seems to me that if I stopped believing on you, being that your just a figment of our imagination, then you would cease to continue to exist pertaining to me, but not necessarily to others, which brings up an interesting point... If you exist to somebody else, and not to me, then if they pray for something, and I am somehow involved, then how would you answer the prayer?? Could it be possible that I have the ability to stump God???? And say, just for hypothetical consideration, that I didn't believe in you, but you believed in me. Afterall, if you DO exist reguardless of what I think, then your believing in my existence (which is evident) and your not existing, should I choose to believe that you don't, would then give me power over you! In light of all believed, and as the sum total of accepted or believed existence, I would have a stronger existence than would you!! If I believe I exist, and you believe I exist. And I believe you don't exist, and you believe you exist, then that would score, for existence: God: 1 TMM: 2 Therefore, I would have a higher probability of existing, inductively speaking. Now, if I apply these figures to the large amount of people that believe that you don't exist, whome yuo believe exist (for, afterall, YOU created them, right?), then the way I look at it, you have been believed right out of existence!!! My final guesstimate would be: God: 1 Human Race: 1,000,000 (approximately) Just think, you believe in all these people more than they believe in you. The human race has a higher chance of existing thatn do you. Of course, this only applies when considering that you exist. Is this a paradox, or a case of begging the answer??? Either way, it doesn't matter! I exist! -TMM (I dare you to prove otherwise, if you can, then I'LL eat the worm!!!!!!!) Message # 62. Date: 12/04/88. Time: 13:45:34. Read 27 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : ALL * Subj : PARTY *(Dillusionists, obfuscates, 3am club members, and anarchists) Friday night. At whatever time. At whoever's house. We're getting together for a party. Don't forget!!!!! -TMM Or whatever.... Message # 63. Date: 12/06/88. Time: 20:48:09. Read 24 Times. From : Tasslehoff Burfoot To : ALL * Subj : Details Details, we need details! Spill the beans, empty the coffee cans, we want to gnow! (And soon too!) >The Tazz< - Patiently waiting. Patiently! Message # 64. Reply to #61 Date: 12/07/88. Time: 03:18:12. Read 23 Times. From : SYSOP To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : To You RECEIVED I ATE THE WORM A COUPLE OF TIMES. IT WAS GROSS AND I WAS DISSAPOINTED. C- - - Message # 65. Date: 12/07/88. Time: 03:18:57. Read 25 Times. From : SYSOP To : ALL Subj : DILLUSIONIST PARTY HEY CI? CAN YOU GO ON FRIDAY? WHERE DO YOU WANT TO DO IT? IS YOUR HOUSE AVAILABLE? TAZZ HAS VOLUNTEERED HIS HOUSE IF YOUR'S IS NOT AVAILABLE. HEY LC, ARE YOU OUT THERE? C- - - Message # 66. Date: 12/08/88. Time: 03:09:51. Read 23 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : whomever Subj : Party We cannot make definite plans too far in advance, or it is highly probable that they will not be carried out. Afinite plans are fine for now, but we must avoid infinite plans. We will keep our plans as finite as possible, until otherwise defined. Message # 67. Date: 12/09/88. Time: 17:25:42. Read 23 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : whomever Subj : party time... Now can we make plans? Message # 68. Date: 12/13/88. Time: 03:33:54. Read 24 Times. From : SYSOP To : ALL Subj : HEY! THIS BOARD SHOULD BE USED! THAT IS MY OPINION. ONLY OBFUSCATES HAVE ACCESS TO THIS BOARD. DOESN'T THAT SOUND LIKE A SPECIAL THING TO YOU? WELL, MAYBE NOT. MAYBE SOME CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE. PLEASE TELL ME YOUR OPINIONS. ONE THING WE OBVIOUSLY NEED IS MORE OBFUSCATES (WHICH MEANS THAT WE NEED MORE USERS!) HOW CAN WE DO THAT? I NEED INPUT!!!! C- - - Message # 69. Date: 12/13/88. Time: 16:37:24. Read 24 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : SYSOP Subj : WHat do we need? RECEIVED I think the existance of an Obfuscatorium and a Temple of Dillusion is a bit redundant. Even for a certified Obfuscate, it's a bit difficult to post the difference, or anything whatever huh? Oh no! My alligator speech is starting duflop to singe deteriorate October complication bear watch saunter agropho- bia. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. Message # 70. Date: 12/13/88. Time: 22:25:32. Read 26 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : dillusionarium Subj : Dill pickles! I think nothing is a probable as a non-existent protosphere of transluscent micro-electronic bit. Still, this place will be no different that the name of the sub-op if it continues to be as such. Nothing is as important as everything under the sun, but that which is over the sun tends to be left out, unless it is right out, in which case it is nothing, which is as important as everything under the sun, which is only a relative approximation of the existence of material objects at one time or another. If not one time, then another, unless otherwise indicated with express written consent of those who feel themselves irrelevant to the position of the sun, given that they do exist, and are material objects as far as non-existen protospheres of transluscent micro-electronic bits are concerned, unpon which nothing is more probable, unless it happens to be something, in which case in holds greter probability within itself due to its own existence, unless it is non-existent, like the sub-op, who neither cares nor has the ability to. This alone is appropriate proof for the existence of the Dill Pickle. As for this sub-board, can it! -TMM (Actually, I kind of like it, even though nobody else does) #70. Message # 71. Reply to #70 Date: 12/14/88. Time: 14:12:40. Read 25 Times. From : SYSOP To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Dill pickles! RECEIVED I'D RATER CAN THE OBFUSCATORIUM. C- - - Message # 72. Date: 12/14/88. Time: 16:36:16. Read 25 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : THe Obfusactorium Fine. Can the Obfuscatorium... When concidering space, there is no "up", or "down", or "east", or "west", or any other direction, and therefore what, exactly, IS "under the sun"? And everything under the sun could be everything or nothing, or anything in between, or anything past either end. Therefore, when somebody refers to "everything under the sun" then you can interpret that to mean anything that you wish, and any sifficiently disillusioned individual can find a good way to make a few bucks off of someone that way... !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. Message # 73. Date: 12/15/88. Time: 01:23:09. Read 22 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : Sysop Subj : hey RECEIVED Keep the Obfuscatorium. Consider it a place where people can prove their worth to get into here. In the meantime, we all must contribute to make this a board worth getting into in the first place. Why don't you take some of the posts you have saved from GC and put them here, for public displa Give us something to remember just how disillusioned (so to type/speak/write/blab) it use to be. CI Just a couple?? Message # 74. Date: 12/15/88. Time: 17:55:23. Read 23 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : CI Subj : Good Idea... Remember Lex Luther (That dillusioned (not as in pickle (which would be sweet, (not sour)) type of guy) and his 4 continous messages (on Gnome's Castle (the old one (as opposed to just plain (as opposed to plaid))) full of those things that I can't spell? (Starts with a P!) Boy! That started a fad that still has not stopped! !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. Message # 75. Reply to #71 Date: 12/16/88. Time: 14:24:03. Read 21 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : SYSOP Subj : Dill pickles! RECEIVED I'd rather agree! Message # 76. Reply to #74 Date: 12/16/88. Time: 14:25:53. Read 21 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Good Idea... RECEIVED Everything under the sun, as I mentioned, is relative. Being a relative is relative to who the rest of the relatives are relative to your relation to them, relatively speaking. It seems, therefore, that relatives are under the sun, depending upon whoes relative that is, which is relative, but relative to their relative position relative to the sun, then relatively speaking they can be under it, relative to those who are over it, or consider themselves such, until their relative position changes, or the death of a relative occurs. In either case, dill pickles still exist, and so should kumquats. Message # 77. Reply to #72 Date: 12/17/88. Time: 20:48:14. Read 23 Times. From : SYSOP To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : THe Obfusactorium RECEIVED MAYBE THEY MEAN WHAT YOU WOULD FIND IF YOU LIFTED UP THE SON AND LOOKED WHERE IT USED TO BE? OR MAYBE THEY MEAN UNDER THE SURFACE OF THE SON. MAYBE THAT IS WHERE ALL THE COAT HANGERS GO? C- - - Message # 78. Reply to #73 Date: 12/17/88. Time: 20:49:30. Read 19 Times. From : SYSOP To : Cleric Ilsaram Subj : hey RECEIVED OK. ILL DO THAT. C- - - Message # 79. Date: 12/17/88. Time: 20:51:12. Read 18 Times. From : SYSOP To : ALL Subj : I'M GOING ON A TRIP SOON. I'LL BE TRAVELLING IN MY STEALTH WINNEBAGO. EVADING ALL POLICE RADAR. INDETECTABLE BY AIR SURVELLANCE. PASSING STRAIGHT THROUGH TOLL BOOTHS. HITCH- HIKERS WILL BE OBLIVIOUS TO MY WHEREABOUTS. I CAN PARK ALONG A RED CURB WITH NO PROBLEM. HANDICAPPED SPACES ARE MINE! SHE'LL BE STREAMLINED FOR SPEED, AND YOU CAN FORGET THE ANTI-SMOG EQUIPMENT! NEXT STOP FORT KNOX. C- - - Message # 80. Reply to #77 Date: 12/18/88. Time: 16:37:07. Read 19 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : SYSOP Subj : THe Obfusactorium RECEIVED But, as I said, a son is a realative, relative to who his father is, but the Sun IS relative, or is at least to whatever bodies may be above or below it, even if they are dead bodies, such as dead relatives, relative to whoes relative they are, if in fact they are somebodies relative, which could be anybody under the sun, which, relatively speaking, could be anywhere. If, relative to the sun, they are a son, relative to their relatives, then irrelevent to whoes relative they are, they must have at least some relative, or they wouldn't be anybodies son. This, however, does not prove anything about the existence of pickles, which do, exist that is, relative to the sun someplace (usually earth). This may be proof for the existence of kumquats though, except one small piece of information is missing, and that is, relatively speaking, the existence of a kumquat. This is a small problem though, and will soon be cleared up before lunchtime. #80. Message # 81. Date: 12/21/88. Time: 15:44:08. Read 18 Times. From : SYSOP To : Tasslehoff Burfoot Subj : I WONDER RECEIVED I HAVE A STRANGE PROBLEM. OLD THEATRE TICKET STUBS KEEP APPEARING IN MY PEN DRAWER. THAT'S STRANGE BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN PUT THEM THERE. I USUALLY THROW THEM AWAY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. FRANKLY I DON'T THINK THAT THEY ARE ALL MINE. (AT LEAST I DON'T REMEMBER GOING TO SEE JOHN WILKES BOOTH PERFORM) C- - - Message # 82. Reply to #81 Date: 12/22/88. Time: 08:51:32. Read 19 Times. From : Tasslehoff Burfoot To : SYSOP Subj : I WONDER RECEIVED That's strange.. Nothing more, but just plain strange. Hmm.. If it means anything to you, I've always been one to ssave all of my theater ticket stubs, and I do have this one place where I keep all of the old ones, perhaps it's been purged? I'll check up on this and see what's happened.... >The Tazz< Message # 83. Reply to #82 Date: 12/25/88. Time: 15:46:24. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Tasslehoff Burfoot Subj : I WONDER RECEIVED Well? Message # 84. Date: 12/25/88. Time: 19:42:15. Read 19 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Theatergoers Subj : Ticketstubs... Strange... I seem to collect ticketstubs, but I can never find them later. Then, they show up at the precise moment when they get in the way. (Like, when I'm cleaning up, and I can't figure out whether I should throw them away, or put them back where they clutter things up.) Tricky things, those ticket stubs. I'd say that they have a mind of there own... !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped with tickets. Message # 85. Reply to #84 Date: 12/26/88. Time: 17:31:34. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Ticketstubs... RECEIVED They have several mind of their own! How can you blame them, look at what they go through, I mean, the life of a ticket stub is not very glamourous! They are created and immediately get stuck to a couple other tickets, and rolled up with other tickets in a way which must be very cramped to them. They then get stuffed in stuffy boxed and are stored for a long period of time at which point they go insane. Eventually, they get their freedom, just to be torn in half and stuck in someones pocket. It's at that point that they are given the opportunity to associate with ball-point pens, and get some tips on kinetic disappearance. From here on, they will show up most anywhere. Being that they have been ripped in half, they only have half a brain, and when they get themselves lost, they aren't smart enough to stay lost, like the pens do. I have often wondered if they purposefully show up again, only because they gnow that they won't be needed, ad are retaliating for they way they have been treated. Some of them, however, never get tips from the pens, are are either forced to figure it out forthemselves, at which point they end up stuck in someones desk drawer, or else they end up stuck in the pocket in which they were stuck, only to be turned onto a fluff-ball while going through the wash, at which point they have no further purpose aside from the chance of being thrown into the street, and arbitrarily being picked up by a small animal, and choking it, or else being carried off by bugs, such as ants, which will use them as a cozy den for young baby ands, who will eat them, and hopefully choke. It is the rare lucky ticket who never gets used, but instead gets stuck in a wallet for show, or hung up on a wall for show. These tickets are proud, and rarely dissappear, unless they are taken by somebody... Message # 86. Date: 12/26/88. Time: 23:17:30. Read 22 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : All... Subj : Quote of the year... "Sort of like bugs." -Gaviscon (extracted from the Story Board, Hack's Retreat) This, I can tell, came from a master. This quote can be applied to all walks of life. Examples: Describing the movement of electrons around a nucleus. Cloud formations. Human social behavior. Etc, etc, the list goes on. This one gets my vote for quote of the year, hands (and various other appendages) down. I think I'll go post it in the login quotes right now... :::Lord Cirdan Message # 87. Date: 12/27/88. Time: 00:06:34. Read 20 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Lord Cirdan Subj : Wow! RECEIVED I had no idea I was so philisophical, but, now that you think of it, everything is "Sort of like bugs," isn't it? Kinda depressing, when you think of it, but great for analyzing new behaviors. For instance the Enquiror might one day claim to have captured aliens, themselves and then people will flood the magazine with letters asking about how they act. An easy, and probably correct answer would be "Sort of like bugs." Of course, if there is anyone down at the Enquiror with half a brain, they will gnow not to claim such a thin... ...excuse me. I need to make an urgent phone call to a certain magazine about something... !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. -Quotee Message # 88. Reply to #86 Date: 12/27/88. Time: 19:12:29. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Lord Cirdan Subj : Quote of the year... RECEIVED Sorry, it doesn't describe the movement of kumquats hanging from kumquat trees on windy dayz. It must be missing something! Message # 89. Reply to #84 Date: 12/28/88. Time: 02:46:16. Read 17 Times. From : SYSOP To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Ticketstubs... RECEIVED MAYBE IT IS ONLY CERTAIN KINDS OF TICKET STUBS THAT HAVE THIS POWER TO GET IN THE WAY. I JUST LOOKED IN MY PENCIL DRAWER AND THOSE TWO TICKET TICKET STUBS ARE STILL THERE. THEY ARE CROCODILE DUNDEE II TICKETS FROM THE CENTURY THEATRE IN VENTURA. 05/25/88 3:20 PM. THEY'RE BLUE. DOES THAT MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU? C- - - Message # 90. Date: 12/28/88. Time: 14:56:40. Read 21 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : SYSOP Subj : I never saw Crocodile Dundee II... RECEIVED Perhaps the reason I never saw it was because your ticket stubs were still in existance at the time... But the Blue part interests me... Were they blue when you first got them? Perhaps they aren't REALLY the same ticket stubs... Perhaps they are sim- ply cheap copies placed there to LOOK like you never thew them away. Per- haps the ball point pens have realized that they are violating the laws of conservation of mass and/or energy, and they wish to make amends by replacing the matter that they are taking with them with false ticket stubs... You said that they were blue. Well, the majority of ball point pens prefer the colors blue and black. (Although there are an occasional green, red, purple, and others... But they are more behaved) Therefore, if they were to create a substitute for themselves, they would naturally choose the colors blue or black, just as we naturally envision God, in- telligent aliens, and robots to be roughly huminoid, with appendages and a face with eyes, ears, etc... So, they have actually given themselves away, because they naturally use blue and black. After all, the ticket stub is blue. And, if my theory is valid, the lettering is black, am I correct? Brilliant, Dr. Aviscenna. Elementary, my dear Watson... !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -The Sherlock Holmes of Dillusionment. #90. Message # 91. Reply to #90 Date: 12/29/88. Time: 02:24:35. Read 18 Times. From : SYSOP To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : I never saw Crocodile Dundee II... RECEIVED HMM, WELL, NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT, I THINK THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN ORANGE IN THE BEGINNING. THAT IS ONLY A GUESS. IT WAS A PRETTY LONG TIME AGO. HOW ABOUT YOU? COUNT UP ALL THE TICKETS YOU CAN FIND AND SEE IF THEY ARE ALL BLUE AND BLACK. C- - - Message # 92. Date: 12/29/88. Time: 15:53:41. Read 18 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : SYSOP Subj : I must do that... RECEIVED You gnow, I've been thinking... And this time it didn't hurt my head as much when I did it. When you changed your sysop, I thought, "hey! That's fine. As long as we all gnow who he is, but when I call other boards, it seems that a LOT of other people changed their names to SYSOP, or CLUB SYSOP, or anything somewhat similar. Is this a new trend? And, how will we gnow who you are, if someone ELSE named SYSOP wants to log on to this board? Why is it that this is such a popular new name? As for the blue tickets, I will check as soon as I leave the terminal, but I may take more than four minutes, so I will do it later... But, I do think I have a blue and black ticket here and there... At least the black lettering. I'm sure a lot of them have black lettering... Tricky little devils, those pens... !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. Over 300 messages served! Message # 93. Reply to #92 Date: 12/30/88. Time: 16:00:54. Read 16 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : I must do that... RECEIVED I think we should get our sysop to call himself the NON-SYSOP. He would be different from all the others, we would be able to recognize him, and, in the name of true obfuscation, would confuse the hell out of everyone. Just a thought... The Music Man -=obfuscate=- Think Infinity! Over 1000 messages served! Message # 94. Date: 12/31/88. Time: 14:04:42. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : NONSYSOP/TMM Subj : What's in a name? Hmmm... Perhaps he should just "edit" his name a bit... You gnow, like Slyman as the Slysop... Sysbot? That's a good one. If you'll remember his true nature as Hackbot, then Sysbot is a perfectly acceptable name. (Accepted by only one person, so far, but it is accepted, nonetheless) !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. --==OBFUSCATE==-- ___/ ___/ /| | The "Pi Guy" /| | | | | | Yeah, well you had a head start... Message # 95. Reply to #94 Date: 01/01/89. Time: 16:38:47. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : What's in a name? RECEIVED I think I like HACKOP better!!!! Message # 96. Date: 01/02/89. Time: 06:18:16. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : ME WELL, I'VE DECIDED TO CHANGE MY NAME TO HACK MAN AND MY NICKNAME TO SYSOP. DOINK Message # 97. Date: 01/05/89. Time: 01:20:58. Read 23 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : SNARGLEDEGOP BEFORE WE CAN PROCEED ANY FURTHER I MUST DETERMINE IF ANY OF YOU ARE SECRET COMMUNIST MUTANT CLONES FROM OUTER SPACE: PLEASE ANSWER THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS. A: DO YOU HAVE A FONDNESS OR AFFECTION FOR TEST TUBES? B: WHAT DO YOU LIKE BETTER? YELLOW, OR GREEN BANANAS? C: WHAT DO YOU THINK OF INHERITANCE TAX? C- - - Message # 98. Date: 01/05/89. Time: 21:45:23. Read 15 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : HACK MAN Subj : bananas RECEIVED I believe that is a subject for much discussion. I can't remember which one I liked, but it will come back to me. Certainly not brown, or purple, I know that much. Ci Ic Message # 99. Date: 01/06/89. Time: 00:02:34. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : hack dude Subj : things I find test tubes fascinating. I like yellow bannannas!! and inheritance tax? It sucks the big one! Message # 100. Date: 01/07/89. Time: 01:24:03. Read 19 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : Info RECEIVED A: None of the above B: False c: 1492 !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. #100. Message # 101. Reply to #98 Date: 01/12/89. Time: 00:23:58. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Cleric Ilsaram Subj : bananas RECEIVED YELLOW BANANA'S ARE THE TRUE FOOD OF THE GODS. C- - - Message # 102. Date: 01/12/89. Time: 00:25:32. Read 24 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. RECEIVED A: CAN YOU DO THIS? B: DOES NAPALM SMELL BETTER IN THE MORNING OR THE EVENING? C: IS HELL REALLY JUST LLEH SPELLED BACKWARDS? D: DO YOU LIKE KUMQUATS WARM OR COOLED? E: WHAT DO YOU THINK OF ..... F: WHAT WAS I GOING TO ASK HERE? G: C- - - Message # 103. Date: 01/12/89. Time: 00:31:11. Read 24 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : NEAT NEW THINGY I'VE ADDED A FEW NEAT NEW MESSAGE TRICKS, BUT I ONLY FEEL LIKE TELLING YOU ABOUT ONE OF THEM RIGHT NOW. IF YOU ENTER ^\ ^V (STANDS FOR random Value) IT WILL PRINT A SINGLE RANDOM NUMERIC CHARACTER (BETWEEN 0 AND 9). EVERY TIME YOU READ THE MESSAGE IT WILL PRINT A DIFFERENT RANDOM DIGIT. I THOUGHT THAT SUCH A FEATURE MIGHT POSSIBLY BE USED FOR OBFUSCATORY PURPOSES, AS INDEED I HAVE DONE SO RECENTLY. C- - - DOINK YOU! TIMES 538! Message # 104. Date: 01/12/89. Time: 02:17:51. Read 23 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : people Subj : for you 805171298739986107387460212450969133703206461859077338196041896486775236775605493959528428134713821439314393100778424277909560098530587448025192568130903753174319530105211123328548067512478912985389845460363806585593421717776654471086644757487618089810534543216803063619295124552085 That is just totally amusing. CIO COI IOC ICO take your pick Message # 105. Date: 01/13/89. Time: 17:12:33. Read 18 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : MORE ANSWERS FROM ME. RECEIVED A: The Square Root of infinity B: Tom and Jane are Goldfish C: Charles Dickens D: Chephalexin Hydrochloride E: mu * 15 kg (9.8 m/s^2) F: A fifty cent piece and a nickle G: Arcsin(cos(x)tan(x)) H: oo oo C- - - 200 400 !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. -Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies... Message # 106. Reply to #102 Date: 01/14/89. Time: 02:40:08. Read 19 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. RECEIVED A: True B: False C: Maybe D: Certainly E: Never F: 42 G: Dirty Underwear Message # 107. Date: 01/15/89. Time: 04:56:43. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : OBFUSCATES I THIK IT'S TIME TO ADMIT A FEW NEW OBFUSCATES. SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN NOMINATED SO FAR ARE; PEGGY, CANDY, LYNX, ETC. INPUT IS NEEDED ON THIS!!! C- - - Message # 108. Date: 01/15/89. Time: 04:59:40. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : HMM. (HACK MAN MUSED) HOW THE HELL DID ARSENIO HALL GET A SHOW? COULDN'T WE ALL DO IT BETTER THAN HE DOES? I WANNA GO TO BETELGEUSE. ANYONE WANT TO COME? C- - - Message # 109. Reply to #108 Date: 01/15/89. Time: 13:19:56. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : HMM. (HACK MAN MUSED) RECEIVED I don't want to go to beletguise! It's too hot there! There is, however, a little moon that circles the sixth planet from that star that is rather nice to visit. The planet itself is not too hot (well, actually, it IS hot, all desert, and very little atmosphere, composed of a lot of mercuric oxide), but the moon, which is quite small, not much bigger than our moon, has an oxygen rich atmoshpere, a lot of beautiful greenery everywhere, and cute fuzzy little animals (who by some coincidence all answer to the name "spot"). I have personally called it "Eden". I have yet to find another human or humanoidian there, so I have kindof claimed it as mine until someone else does, and a bloody battle breaks out, resulting in nuclear warfare which will wipe out life on the whole moon, leaving it as desolate as the planet it revolves around, which would also be effected by the radiation, and would turn from a desert planet into a paradise. I'm giving it about 2000 years. Until then, I have a nice little moon of mine own, with what I will call for the time being "cute fuzzy bunnies" roaming everywhere. Would you like to visit it with me? I'm going next spring! (Spring occurs there every 50 years!) The Music Man I think peggy may be a candidate for an obfuscate 3rd class, but I don't gnow about the others, I'd have to watch them more before I personally made a decision, but the decision is ultimately everyone elses as well. Message # 110. Date: 01/15/89. Time: 14:26:46. Read 15 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : ALL Subj : Obfuscates. Peggy maybe. I don't think the rest have shown Obfuscate qualities yet. Peggy has potential but I haven't seen anything that would qualify her as of yet. :::Lord Cirdan #110. Message # 111. Date: 01/15/89. Time: 15:50:18. Read 24 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Obfuscates/Dillusionists Subj : New Obfuscates/Dillusionists I don't gnow... I think candy had the absolute best inherant Obfuscatory powers in a new user that I've ever seen. I actually believed, at first, that she was one of you guys, in a blind effort to see what they women- only board was doing... (THE women only...) But they've all seemed to've (conjunction: to have) digressed. Any true-blue Obfuscate has to stick with it. I've had the experience of watching at least 20 users attempt to out-margin me, for the sole purpose of trying to become more of a margin master than myself. Out of all those, only The Frammis Man was capable of "sticking with it." I have yet to see a second user margin for more than a week. Therefore, there have only been two users to achieve "Marginer" status. (I am still thinking of a name to call it) Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is that anyone can be an Obfuscate for a week or two, but we also have to examine the long-lasting qualities. Don't call someone a marginer because they right-justify a single message, in other words. Peggy seems like a prime choice (God, she sounds like a piece of meat) in choosing new Obfuscates, but I haven't seen much out of her, other than a post or two (mostly replies) on the Obfuscatorium. If I'm going to decide to vote someone in as an Obfuscate, I have to see an original, clever, (& slightly wierd) piece of Dillusioned thinking. You gnow, like subliminal message posting, inbred parenthesis, or the invention of the GN/OMUBET... (except original) It doesn't have to be big... Just something to set one of them off from the rest of the users... Oh, and HACK MAN, I've been meaning to ask you something. Could you print up another list of the Obfuscates? Gary the Gallant, a.k.a. The Nomad, a.k.a. Bruceee, a.k.a. The Death Demon seems to think that he was des- ignated an Obfuscate, mostly because he had access to The Temple of Dill- usion on the new Gnome. On every list that I have ever seen, he was never included, and no one ever even mentioned making him an Obfuscate, but he refuses to belive me, and wants it straight from you. This board is long distance for him to call, so he asked me to ask you if he was, which I do not think he is, but would rather you say he ain't. Right? Anyway, I made a list of who I gnew were Obfuscates to him, and this is what I came up with: (*) indicates missing, presumed partying. Lex Luthor (*) HACK MAN Lord Cirdan Pizza Man Cleric Ilsaram The Music Man The Frammis Man (*) Tasslehoff Burfoot And, of course, Gaviscon Aviscenna a.k.a. The Pi Guy/Margin Master/A lot of other things... Hmmm... I keep thinking that I missed somebody, but it's just not coming to my mind... Anyway, let me gnow what to tell Gary the Gallant. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. -Also, we should first make them rookie/minor/training/whateverelse Obfuscates. (Obfuscate 3rd class?) Then, maybe we could just say, "Show us what you've got" Message # 112. Date: 01/16/89. Time: 03:44:37. Read 15 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : all Subj : hey I agree. Peggy is rather intelligent, et al, but not an Obfuscate in my opinion. What I see from her as far as clubs go, is Anti-Jerk material. Candy has obfuscatory qualities to her. But I don't think her attempts when applying herself to the task of obfuscation have been anything more than half- baked. So far, it seems to be merely potential. Lynx has been around awhile. But I have no idea where his loyalties reside. CI shlabeddy Message # 115. Reply to #111 Date: 01/17/89. Time: 04:11:14. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : New Obfuscates/Dillusionists RECEIVED I DUNNO. MAYBE L.C. CAN HELP OUT. I'M NOT SURE. A COUPLE OF NEW OBFUSCATES WERE VOTED IN ON APPLEHOLICS. AFTER WHICH POINT THEY PROMPTLY DISAPPEARED. I'M NOT SURE BUT I THINK GARY THE GALLANT WAS ONE. DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT TMM? HMM, I THINK I HAVE SOME OBFUSCATE STUFF FROM APPLEHOLICS SAVED SOMEWHERE. I'LL HAVE TO LOOK IT UP AND REPRINT SOME OF THE GOOD STUFF. OH NO, ON THE OTHER HAND THAT STUFF MAY HAVE BEEN LOST IN A HARD DISK CRASH. I'M WONDERING ABOUT MYNK LYNX. HE SAYS THAT HE WAS MADE AN OBFUSCATE, BUT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT. I BELIEVE HE MEANS A LONG TIME AGO JUST BEFORE THE GNOME'S CASTLE WAS TAKEN DOWN, BUT I DON'T SEEM TO RECALL THAT. C- - - Message # 116. Date: 01/17/89. Time: 17:07:49. Read 18 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Hack Man Subj : Obfuscates RECEIVED I don't think either of them were Obfuscates. I think that a lot of people like to consider themselves Obfuscates, because no one else would let them be... You gnow, like just because they posted on Obfuscatoriums, and had access to Temples and such, they assumed they were members. It's just like people who christian themselves as members of the 3am club, because they post a message at 3am. I had access to the Temple of Dillusion long be- fore I was an Obfuscate, so that is no way to tell, but I think that is what Gary based it on... Perhaps you did give certain people membership... But I certainly don't recall it. I think we ought to revote on everything or at least come up with a suitable way of letting in new members. Make it all terribly official, like Congress, so that it takes twice the amount of time to do anything. (And somewhere, someone, sometime should keep a list, so we don't run into these problems) Also, Gary wanted me to tell you about a BBS he's putting up. (Yes, that's right... Another one!) I think he's going to call it The Demon's Den, or something patterned after The Death Demon, one of his many handles. (He's having real troubles sticking with a handle) Anyway, he told me all about a subboard that he would call the Table of Dillusion, (the BBS itself was going to be patterned after Gnome, I guess... Popular topic. I had nothing to do with it... Scout's honor) and it would admit only a certain number of users, although everyone could read the messages. There was some pecul- iarity to it. I believe that the number of members to the table remained a constant, and the Obfuscates could never be bumped off, but they could do so to other users at will, to make room for other users, or new Obfuscates to the board. (When needed, he might expand the seating) Anyway, I am not going to say if I support his ideas, or not, but he wanted me to tell you about it... So I did. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. -=I'M AN OBFUSCATE, ARE YOU?=- Message # 117. Reply to #116 Date: 01/18/89. Time: 01:48:56. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Obfuscates RECEIVED WELL, TELL HIM THAT HE CAN'T HAVE A BOARD FOR OBFUSCATES WITHOUT MAJORITY APPROVAL OF THE OBFUSCATES, WHICH MEANS THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO CALL HERE AND TELL US ABOUT IT HIMSELF. AS FOR DILLUSION, THAT WAS LEX LUTHOR'S AND LORD CIRDAN'S DOMAIN AND HE WOULD HAVE TO ASK THEM. C- - - Message # 118. Date: 01/19/89. Time: 12:07:22. Read 17 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : ALL Subj : Obfuscates I don't remember Gary the Gallant becoming an Obfuscate, and actually, I don't remember Mynk Lynx calling The (Orignal) Gnome's Castle, though I think he had access to Gnome. Hmm, may have to go through the message bases I have and see what's on there. L8r... :::Lord Cirdan Message # 119. Date: 01/19/89. Time: 12:10:31. Read 21 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : Hack Man Subj : A gnote. RECEIVED You gnow, I was giving some serious thought about what made the Gnome's Castle a good BBS, better perhaps than its offspring, Gnome. My personal opinion is one feature that is destructive to quality message posts is the auto-reply command. If user A calls up and posts a message about something, then user B calls up and replies. That's ok. But then user C calls up, reads user A's message, replies, then reads user B message. Thus you have a post about a subject that user C hasn't obtained all of the information. So C's message may restate many of the things said by user B. Now user D calls up, and gets confused reading straight through the messages because user C is repeating what user B already said. Also, auto-reply encourages disconnected messages. Look at the messages on the Obfuscate board. Many messages between Music Man and candy are hard to follow without going back to the original messages to see what they are talking about. And most people don't feel like doing that. I gnow that the auto-reply may make things easier for people who can't remember who said what, but I think that by making things too easy you may end up with a sloppy message base. Comments? :::Lord Cirdan Message # 120. Date: 01/19/89. Time: 17:47:32. Read 21 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Lord Cirdan Subj : Hear here! RECEIVED I've been stating that for years! You were not around, but I was the one who got Wolverine kicked off almost every board in Ventura, just by getting mad at him for posting seven meaningless replies in a row, many of which said exactly the same things. (The guy was a dork, but it took someone to crit- icize him before people realized it.) Admittedly, they might have taken that too far, but I did manage to save that board from utter boredom. The exact same problem is on every board I see... People seem to like posting short, 3 word replies to messages, as soon as they read them. Anyone with half a mind can remember what somebody else said, a few messages back. It really gets to be an annoyance when someone posts something like: Could somebody tell me the number to _______'s board? (or) Does anyone gnore where _______ is? (or whatever) Then, on a popular board, you'll get about 4 or 5 identical posts from var- ious users, plus maybe one or two more, by people apologising for reapeating someone else... I tend to stay away from reply options, and urge others to do the same, but I gnow that I am not in the majority. It is, however, nice to see that there is someone else on my side... Oh, and, Mink Lynx never called Gnome's regularly, although he may have been a visiter every now and again. I really do not think that he was an Obfuscate nevertheless... !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. #120. Message # 121. Reply to #115 Date: 01/28/89. Time: 12:43:15. Read 18 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : New Obfuscates/Dillusionists RECEIVED I don't remember mynk lynk becoming one. I don't think he has obfuscate potential, but I may be wrong. As for gary the gallant, maybe, but I don't remember (that was an infinite amount of time ago, and my brain doesn't remember anything more than 30 seconds ago!) Oh, well. Let's just keep watching them and vote on it later. The Music Man -=obfuscate=-(1st Class) dillusionist!(3rd Class) All Else Is Trivial! Message # 122. Reply to #119 Date: 01/28/89. Time: 12:48:55. Read 16 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Lord Cirdan Subj : A gnote. RECEIVED I agree 100%. I used to just remember the topics and people who left them and then reply after reading it all. Then I could reply to the subject as a whole, and as you said, not repeat the same things others have said. Auto-reply mucks up the messages base with too many messages too! (I gnow, I am probably the one who does most of the mucking, but I have just gotten lazy!) Maybe we should remove the autoreply from places like the obfuscatorium and here, and maybe other places. Messages on GC were a lot more consolidated, and I agree, that was probably part of why it was so successful! -TMM Message # 123. Reply to #122 Date: 01/30/89. Time: 00:08:27. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : A gnote. RECEIVED I THINK THAT AUTOREPLY HAS MORE POSITIVE POINTS THAN NEGATIVE ONES. C- - - Message # 124. Reply to #123 Date: 01/30/89. Time: 22:46:59. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : A gnote. RECEIVED I kindof agree. I wish there were some other solution though. I would try thinking of one, but I don't feel like it. Message # 126. Reply to #123 Date: 01/31/89. Time: 03:21:58. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : A gnote. RECEIVED WELL, YOU CAN ALWAYS AUTOREPLY AND IF YOU FIND THAT YOU SAID SOMETHING STUPID THEN YOU CAN RE-EDIT THE MESSAGE AND TAKE THE STUPID STUFF OUT. C- - - P.S. OR, YOU CAN READ ALL OF THE MESSAGE AND USE THE 'D' OPTION TO TRACE BACKWARDS THROUGH THE INTERESTING CONVOS AND USE THE AUTOREPLY TO REPLY TO THOSE MESSAGES THAT NEED REPLYING TO. THAT WAY YOU WILL GNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THE CONVO, AND YOU CAN STILL USE THE AUTOREPLY. Message # 127. Date: 01/31/89. Time: 13:32:47. Read 19 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : Dillusionists Subj : Well then... Ok then, let's see how many people make use of re-edit command.... I'll post a message that should get a response from people due to it's highly controversial nature, and see how many post right away, rather than read the next message, then see how many people after reading the second message re-edit their messages.... :::Lord Cirdan Message # 128. Reply to #127 Date: 01/31/89. Time: 16:00:33. Read 19 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Lord Cirdan Subj : Well then... RECEIVED Hmmm, I wonder if I'll fall for it! (I think you could have found something more controversial though!) People could always go back and delete the message they left (like I almost did, but didn 't feel like it, I'm too lazy!) Message # 129. Date: 02/05/89. Time: 12:50:11. Read 20 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Dillusionists/Yak Lovers Subj : Yak facts Did you gnow that. . . and refuse to move? choose yaks? (Significantly, when asked the same question, 7 out of 7 yaks did not choose Obfuscates) have a life span of over 90 years? cowardly yak instead of a cowardly lion? ("Yaks and tigers and bears, oh my!") where it forms a long, shaggy fringe? more? black and white? mature bulls staying together in smaller groups)? !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Source of all your major yak facts. Message # 130. Date: 02/06/89. Time: 02:42:32. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : A SECRET I GNOW WHY WORMS CRAWL AROUND ON THE GROUND AFTER IT STARTS RAINING. C- - - #130. Message # 131. Reply to #130 Date: 02/06/89. Time: 15:35:53. Read 19 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : A SECRET RECEIVED And I gnow why they get stepped on! -TMM Coming soon: Little Gnown Facts About Kumquats Message # 132. Date: 02/07/89. Time: 17:50:42. Read 17 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : People who like yaks Subj : More yak facts Did you know that. . . during the cold season? used to make rope, and that yak tails are used as fly whisks in India? disease caused by the organism mycoplasma mycoides, which strikes yaks and other herding animals? the yak for plowing? Tibet? animal? away as Lima, Peru? THESE ARE IMPORTANT TO GNOW, MY FRIENDS! !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- Message # 133. Date: 02/09/89. Time: 16:16:22. Read 19 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Dillusioned Gnus Subj : Gnu news Now, for some gnu news: Hot off the wire: Huey Lewis and the Gnus will be giving a special concert. Their warmup band is rumored to be a surprise reunion of The Animals. Did you gnow that: Remember these facts! !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Source of all your gnu and yak facts. Message # 134. Reply to #132 Date: 02/10/89. Time: 05:10:49. Read 19 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : More yak facts RECEIVED SO, WHY DON'T WE HAVE YAKS IN CALIFORNIA? C- - - Message # 135. Date: 02/20/89. Time: 02:11:13. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : ANNOYING ANIMALS. I HAVE JUST THEORIZED WHAT I BELIEVE TO BE THE MOST ANNOYING ANIMAL POSSIBLE. WHAT YOU DO IS YOU TAKE A HUMMING BIRD AND CROSS IT WITH A CAT. THE RESULT SHALL BE NAMED A 'HUMMING CAT.' THEY ARE GREAT PETS TO GIVE TO YOUR WORST ENEMIES. ALWAYS HUMMING, AND MEOWING, AND PURRING AROUND. HUMMING CATS WOULD BE QUITE A HAZARD FOR CAT HATERS. CATS CAN USUALLY SPOT A CAT HATER FROM A MILE AWAY. SUCH CAT HATERS WOULD BE IN GRAVE DANGER OF STRAFING CLAW RUNS FROM ABOVE. NOT ONLY THAT BUT HUMMING CATS WOULD BE PLENTIFUL, (BECAUSE THEY CAN REACH BIRDS EASIER) THEY WOULD HAVE LOTS TO EAT. ONCE MY GENETIC EXPERIMENTS ARE CONCLUDED YOU WILL BE ABLE TO HEAR THE ANNOYING SOUND OF HUMMING CATS BREEDING IN TREES AND ON TELEPHONE POLES. SO, GET YOUR SLINGSHOTS AND SHOTGUNS READY! C- - - Message # 136. Date: 02/21/89. Time: 16:28:51. Read 15 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Hack Man Subj : Humming cats RECEIVED Ooooh! You are so right! And humming cats would have the uncanny ability, not other to always land on their feet, but to hang in midair... Therefore, hum- ming cats would be able to hang in midair, and their feet could do anything, including gouge flesh out of your arms... And even worse, these humming cats, as dangerous and bad-tempered as they may be (from their agitation from being their own worst enemies... Literally) will still appear to be cute and ador- able. (Being that a humming bird is the smallest bird, and that cats are de- ceivingly cute, when they are small, anyway...) They will be like cats in sheep's clothing! Well... Maybe I'll come up with a better analogy later... Get out the kitty litter, and sprinkle it with pollen! Uh... Hack Man... You wouldn't ever think of sending one of those out on me... Would you? !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- Message # 137. Date: 02/22/89. Time: 22:59:29. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : LYNX WHAT DO YOU THINK OF ADMITTING LYNX INTO THE RANKS OF OBFUSCATIONSHIP? C- - - Message # 138. Date: 02/23/89. Time: 14:49:02. Read 12 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : All Subj : Lynx Well, he at least has the backspacing down.....Hmmm, maybe we should give him a test? Make up a bunch of questions and see how he answers them? :::Lord Cirdan Message # 139. Date: 02/24/89. Time: 16:45:31. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Hack Man Subj : I'm not sure... RECEIVED He seems alright, but as I've said before, (about peggy) he lacks originality. I've yet to see anything truely "new" out of either of them. They just kind of go along with the flow of us others... Before I vote for someone, I want to see a completely new, original idea, at LEAST once, but any Obfuscate has to REALLY be able to come up with new ideas all the time... Also, we should develop some systamatic way of letting new Obfuscates in, like Lynx. Lord Cirdan suggested a quiz, or something, which seems like a good idea but I'm thinking more along the lines of voting... I mean, I believe we should have to get a unanymous vote from all Obfuscates who are present. (The Frammis Man, Lex Luthor, etc., would not be required, but, if he hasn't been gone too long, people like Cleric Ilsaram should be asked by phone, if it's not too in- convenient, and people like Tazz, who just doesn't call very often, should be asked to vote, as well.) Maybe we should have one person suggest to let some- one in, and then spend a week, (or otherwise designated time) discussing the issue, giving opinions, and so on... If you appear to be the only one who dis- approves of someone, you should probably give in, at the end of the week, as a common courtasy to the others, since a unanamous vote is needed, unless you've got a strong reason for opposing the person. If you do, then you should really be able to sway others to your side during the week debate, anyway. The Obfus- cates can stay small, if it has to, and, admittedly, it'd be better if it were larger, but I think that a true consent of everyone is the best way... Other- wise, people will start holding grudges and get angry when someone is admitted against their wishes, etc. Maybe it's not the same as the Senate, but who is crazy enough to copy our government, anyway? Therefore, my "rules" are as follows: 1) Unanomous (How DO you spell that?) vote required to admit any new Obfuscate. 2) Voters will consist of all Obfuscates who can be easily contacted. 3) To be considered, one Obfusacte must suggest the idea, and then one week of debate will follow. (Time can be extended if needed) 4) If a user is very close to being admitted, (say, within one vote) then the person(s) who voted against that user will be allowed to change their vote to approval afterward, without a completely different voting session. This should be done as a common courtasy, unless your opposing reasons happen to be very strong. (And valid) 5) Any user may be suggested for admission any number of times, but don't make it rediculous. (Want him in? "Nay!" Want him in? "Nay!!" All right, one last chance... Want him in? "Nay NAY! NAY!!!") Any commments? Criticisms? Criteria? Crustaceans? !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- Message # 140. Reply to #139 Date: 02/24/89. Time: 22:03:35. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : I'm not sure... RECEIVED I think creativity is indeed important! Lynx can grasp the concept, but I have yet to see anything new from him that I have not seen before form anybody else. I guess its kindof like a thesis, doing something that nobody has ever done before, ^(masters) and doing it right. Until I see genuine originality from him, he will not get my vote. #140. Message # 141. Date: 02/26/89. Time: 14:37:08. Read 21 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : Anyone Subj : Lynx I think Music Man is right, about the thesis. Perhaps someone should drop him a gnote, and say that he must first come up with a completely original post that we could make a decision on. :::LC Message # 142. Date: 02/28/89. Time: 04:46:45. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : UPDATED OBFUSCATE BULLETINS WELL THAT PRETTY MUCH SAYS IT ALL. THE OBFUSCATE BULLETINS HAVE BEEN UPDATED AND EXPANDED, CHECK THEM OUT. C- - - Message # 144. Date: 02/28/89. Time: 17:37:37. Read 18 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Obfuscates Subj : Whatever happened to message #143? Why does Lynx gnow about all the tricks, anyway? Can he read the Obfuscate bullitans, and why? I believe we should drop a few small hints, (very dif- ficult, like on Gnome's Castle) but not give the tricks away, unless some- one IS an Obfuscate. I mean, what's the point of calling them Obfusacte bullitans? But if he figured out these tricks entirely on his own, then I must comend him for that. Or did someone tell him about it? Hack: The color tricks elude me. I didn't read it clearly, but all I gnow is that I've got a lousy ANSI simulator, with four colors, and you have included many more possibilities. How can you tell if something is a different color, anyway? From what I read, the only way to tell is by the BEEP. Maybe I should read up on it, slowly. What do any of you think about how to vote in an Obfuscate? Should it just be informal, or what? Also, it doesn't seem right that you should have to TELL someone to be or- iginal. Any Obfuscate has to always do that, but I guess you've got to go and start somewhere. I still disagree with letting someone in, on the sim- ple basis that they wrote one original message because we told him to. But I believe we DO have to tell him, just so we can test his creativity... By the way, is Racer X REALLY holding a bingo game, or is this something or- iginal from him? Maily, I want to gnow this, because if he just made it up then I wasted a lot of money on raffle tickets from his partner. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. Message # 145. Reply to #144 Date: 02/28/89. Time: 20:55:53. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Whatever happened to message #143? RECEIVED WELL, I TOLD LYNX THAT IT INVOLVED TWO CONTROL CHARACTERS, AND HE FIGURED OUT ALL OF THE REST. HE EVEN FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO COLORS ALREADY. THAT MADE ME SUSPICIOUS. BUT SINCE I DID THE COLOR MOD THE ONLY PERSONS WHO HAVE ACCESS TO THE OBFUSCATE BULLETINS WHO CALLED ARE YOU AND LC. I EVEN CHECKED LOCKPICK AND MASTER BLASTER TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE TOO MUCH ACCESS. I HAVE TO SAY HE'S QUICK AT PICKING UP THAT STUFF. AS FAR AS I GNOW THERE ISN'T A BINGO GAME GOING ON, BUT THEN MAYBE THERE REALLY IS ONE GOING ON IN RACER'S MIND. C- - - Message # 147. Date: 03/02/89. Time: 02:59:47. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : NEW OBFUSCATED EDITOR COMMANDS I'VE ADDED SOME NEW AND POWERFUL COMMANDS. LYNX SUGGESTED THAT I ADD A COMMAND THAT WILL PAUSE FOR INPUT AND THEN JUMP TO CERTAIN LINES DEPENDING ON THE INPUT. I EXPANDED THE IDEA SO THAT IT WILL PAUSE FOR INPUT, AND JUMP OR DO ANY OF THE OTHER OBFUSCATED COMMANDS DEPENDING ON THE INPUT. (OR JUST PAUSE UNTIL A KEY IS PRESSED AND THEN DO NOTHING ONCE IT IS PRESSED.) THESE SHENNANIGANS INVOLVE THREE NEW COMMANDS: ^\^J ^\^Q ^\^T THEIR USAGE IS SEMI-COMPLICATED SO I WON'T REPRINT IT HERE. I HAVE ALREADY EXPANDED THE OBFUSCATE'S TRICKS BULLETIN AND ADDED INSTRUCTIONS FOR THESE COMMANDS. THEY'RE NOT THAT HARD THOUGH, LYNX WAS OVER HERE WHEN I PROGRAMMED IT IN - AND ONCE I EXPLAINED TO HIM HOW IT WORKS HE WAS BETTER AT IT THAN I AM. I HAVE ALSO ADDED A ^\^P COMMAND THAT INSERTS A SINGLE 1/2 SECOND PAUSE. OTHER CHANGES! YOU CAN NOW TYPE ^] INSTEAD OF ^\. THAT'S BECAUSE LORD CIRDAN'S TERMINAL PROGRAM USES ^\ FOR THE CAPTURE BUFFER (OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT). I ADDED ^] SO THAT HE CAN ALSO PARTICIPATE! YOU ARE NO LONGER PROMPTED FOR INPUT WITH THE ^\^I ^\^S COMMANDS. AND, THE INPUT DOESN'T ECHO TO THE SCREEN. THAT'S SO THAT THEY WON'T MESS UP THE SCREEN WHEN YOU ENTER THEM. C- - - Message # 149. Date: 03/02/89. Time: 14:23:34. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : A BUG I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN A BUG I RAN ACROSS. IT'S PARTICULARLY OBFUSCATED. I DISCOVERED THAT IF YOU WROTE AN INFINITE MESSAGE AND SAVED IT, AND THEN YOU DECIDED TO RE-EDIT THE MESSAGE AND YOU DECIDED TO KILL THE INFINITE LINE, ONCE YOU TRIED TO RE-SAVE THE MESSAGE - IT WOULD TRY TO SAVE AN INFINITE AMOUNT OF NOTHING. THE BUG HAS BEEN FIXED, BUT IT JUST GOES TO SHOW THAT NOTHING DOES EXIST. MY HARD DRIVE IS FULL OF IT NOW! IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE SOME NOTHING - I HAVE AN INFINITE SUPPLY AND AM WILLING TO LET IT GO CHEAP! ANIMATED SIGNOFF? (Y/N) : KC- - - C- - C- AW SHUCKS! C- - - Message # 151. Date: 03/03/89. Time: 13:40:36. Read 19 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : Interesante... RECEIVED Well, I have to comend Lynx on that, and given enough time, I would have found out things like that myself, so I don't doubt that it was possible for him to do it through trial and error. (When I noticed your input test, I tried it my- self, without first reading the instructions, and I eventually got to the ^\^Q part, but didn't get to the "IF" part, although I gnew it had something to do with ^\^T, because that combonation wanted input... Anyway, let's see if I've got it, now. You could do some pretty bizzare stuff with this... Shave and a haircut? That will be $1.95. Never mind... That was interesting... I think I need to reread it. I could have done better, but it was my first try. HACK: A question: what if you wanted to print one thing, if a certain thing was intputed, but you also wanted to print something else if a certain thing was NOT inputted. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. Message # 152. Reply to #151 Date: 03/05/89. Time: 14:01:54. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Interesante... RECEIVED YOU COULD DO IT WITH A LOT OF JUMP COMMANDS. IT WOULD BE KINDA LIKE A BASIC PROGRAM. IN BASIC IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. 100 A$=INKEYS$:IF A$="N" THEN GOTO 300 200 PRINT "WHATEVER":GOTO 400 300 PRINT "SOME OTHER THING" 400 END MESSAGE EQUIVALENT. A R E Y O U W E I R D ( Y / N ) (^\^Q)(^\^TN)(^\^J3) T O O B A D (^\^J4) J O I N T H E C L U B ! C- - - Message # 154. Date: 03/07/89. Time: 16:35:44. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : Oh, I see... RECEIVED I didn't realize what the JUMP command did... It's like a GOTO. When I read about it, I assumed that it meant the line on the SCREEN rather than in the message... Like, ^\^J20...Would send you down here, somewhere... Sort of like a POS(X) command on some computers. Now that I see the actual usage, I realize it's importance. I was even go- ing to suggest that you make a command like that, because I've been doing this: ^\^Ty Y ^\^Ty E ^\^Ty S ^\^Ty ! (SPACES ARE, OF COURSE, FOR CLARITY) All right... Hmm... I couldn't quite get that to work right... Anyway, the point is, I now see how this if-then works... I'll try not to overdo it. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. Message # 155. Date: 03/14/89. Time: 22:03:57. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : ^^ LORD CIRDAN COULDN'T USE THE ^] EITHER SO I CHANGED IT TO CONTROL CARAT (^^). I ALSO NOTICED SOMETHING INTERESTING. SINCE THE ^ IS A CAPITAL 6 YOU MIGHT THINK THAT THAT IN ORDER TO SEND CONTROL CARAT (^^) YOU MIGHT HAVE TO PRESS THE CONTROL KEY, SHIFT KEY, AND 6 KEY ALL AT THE SAME TIME. IN FACT, ON MY IBM COMPATIBLE KEYBOARD YOU DON'T HAVE TO PRESS THE SHIFT KEY. IT SENDS A ^^ ANYWAY. THIS FASCINATING PIECE OF BOREDOM IS BROUGHT TO YOU COURTESY OF HACK MAN C- - - Message # 156. Date: 03/16/89. Time: 15:20:38. Read 20 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : ALL Subj : Well, let's give it a try... Look, bells: Oh, I forgot. Humans can't see sound. :::Lord Cirdan +++++++++++ Ponder that! Message # 157. Date: 03/19/89. Time: 11:37:33. Read 32 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : Pickles. Subj : Gosh, such livelyness in the Temple. Hmm. I think we need something to do. Ok, let's play Story Time. This will be like the Story Board, only you can only right three sentences. The first sentence has to be the last sentence of the previous post. So if I wrote "Blikfrom, in a fit of depression, hopped into his galatic warp hopper, and sped off into space. Soon, he came upon a planet of pure pickles. He landed to investigate." Then you would write, "He landed to investigate. He tested the pickles, and they were good. Blikfrom made plans to become Pickle Tycoon of the Universe." And then someone else would post "Blikfrom made plans to become Pickle Tycoon of the Universe. ....." etc. Sound fun? :::Lord Cirdan Message # 158. Date: 03/24/89. Time: 16:11:20. Read 17 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : LC Subj : Cool... RECEIVED It was a cold day on Theolosis, but, then again, it was always cold on Theolosis. Damrogen Meretzky was glad to be leaving the God-awful planet of methane ice, successfully completing his research there. He climbed into the pale green landing craft, turning around to take a final look at the icy hell world, before launching to dock with the orbiting mothership above. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped on Terra. -Gotta be sci-fi Message # 159. Date: 03/25/89. Time: 01:01:10. Read 19 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : Gav Subj : Well, RECEIVED He got into his pale green ship, and launched to dock with the mothership in orbit. As his slide into the docking area, something went wrong. Warning lights blinked on all over the place as an O-ring went faulty, and one engine exploded. Lord Cirdan::: Message # 160. Date: 03/25/89. Time: 19:18:50. Read 22 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Lord Cirdan Subj : Aren't we supposed to repeat the last line? RECEIVED Damrogen watched as the first of two engines exploded, damaging parts of the ship. Emergency airlocks closed, sealing off radioactive areas of the ship & depressurized areas that had opened to the vacuum of space. Meanwhile, the damaged computer system mistook his docked craft with a dangerous area, and would refuse to open the entrance airlock. !v!o!i!G!nsa!c -=@ Margin Master @=- #160. Message # 162. Reply to #160 Date: 03/27/89. Time: 04:44:28. Read 22 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Aren't we supposed to repeat the last line? RECEIVED AT ANY MOMENT THE FUEL TANK COULD BE BREACHED AND THE LAUNCH VEHICLE WOULD BECOME ON HELL OF AN ORBITAL FIREWORKS DISPLAY, TAKING THE MOTHER SHIP WITH IT. "NO TIME TO BE WASTED," THOUGHT DAMROGEN AS HE WHIPPED OUT HIS GONKULATOR AND BEGAN TO GO TO WORK. C- - - MY GOD! IT'S FULL OF STARS! * * ** *** Message # 163. Date: 04/14/89. Time: 06:45:50. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : LYNX SO, WHAT DO YOU THINK? LYNX IS RATHER IMPATIENT BY NOW AND I DON'T GNOW WHAT TO SAY. C- - - Message # 164. Date: 04/16/89. Time: 20:58:32. Read 22 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Hack Man Subj : Lynx RECEIVED Well, we seem to have lost most of our Obfuscates, but I think our opinions on Lynx were pretty clear. From what I could see, we voted negative, with hopes. I mentioned that Lynx seemed somewhat deserving, but really hasn't done much to prove himself. Something new, something different. Something like the fad with (((((((((((((((((((this)))))))))))))))))) or whatever... You gnow what I am talking about. The things that Obfuscates are coming up with all the time, but didn't copy from someone else. Like when I started margining, and tried a few subliminal messages, or whatever. Preferably nothing to do with just ex- ploiting your color-changing function. I can't describe exactly what I want to see from him, because if I gnew, it wouldn't qualify. However, until I see it, my vote is negative. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Trapped. Message # 165. Date: 05/11/89. Time: 17:29:42. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK & other Obfuscates Subj : Quote-o-matic So, anyway, the problem is that a lot of non-Obfuscates want to be able to post quotes. I want to gnow what people's opinions are on this topic. Do you think only Obfuscates should be able to post quotes? Or, do you think anyone should be able to enter quotes? Perhaps if we give them the power to do so, we should include something to let us easily delete quotes, if we think they are unsuitable. Or, maybe we should just let them suggest quotes? Or, maybe we should forget it all together and leave things the way they are? Or, maybe we should all go fishing for a few days, and when somebody catches a few days on their fishing line, we'll use them to go fishing for fish? !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Mindless Matter @=- Message # 166. Reply to #165 Date: 05/13/89. Time: 14:13:24. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Quote-o-matic RECEIVED Let them tell us their quote in a public message, and if any of the obfuscates like any of them, they can put them in the quote-o-matic! Message # 167. Date: 05/17/89. Time: 14:23:39. Read 16 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : Gav Subj : I agree RECEIVED with Music Man. :::Lord Cirdan P.S. (The bit about the catfish was one of my favorites so far.... Maybe the Dillusionists are making a comeback...) Message # 168. Date: 05/17/89. Time: 17:08:28. Read 13 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Obfuscates Subj : All right... Looks like we all pretty much agree on the quote-thing. I personally thought that they should "submit" quotes to us, and then we'd have the posting option to put up the quote, also. But, what are you talking about the catfish? Did I miss something, or has my selective memory miss the "SELECT" key, and accidentally hit "DELETE"? !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- Message # 169. Date: 09/23/89. Time: 00:28:26. Read 14 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : all Subj : hey yo puppy room! It's just peachy to be back. Hack, I've got to sit down with you for several moments (several is usually four or more, and a moment is 3 minutes, so that comes to at least 12 minutes) and have you explain all these new features. As it is, I'm spending a heap of money on this phone call. l8r :CI Message # 170. Date: 06/26/89. Time: 12:41:27. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Dillies Subj : False Advertizing If there are 60 minutes in an hour, and 60 seconds in a minute, and sixty jiffys in a second (Wouldn't it follow that there should be sixty hours in a day? SOmeone goofed, but that's not my point), then that would mean that Jiffy Pop Pop Corn is using false advertizing, for they infer, through suggestive symbolism, that their corn pops in 1/60th of a second! This just cannot be! I'll bet david horowitz would love to hear about THAT! #170. Message # 171. Date: 07/13/89. Time: 23:08:13. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : TMM Subj : 60 JIFFYS RECEIVED DOES THAT MEAN THAT THERE ARE 60 INSTANTS IN A JIFFY? C- - - Message # 172. Reply to #171 Date: 08/02/89. Time: 19:59:46. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : 60 JIFFYS RECEIVED YES!! And between each instant is an infinite number of points!! (which are probably well taken!) Message # 173. Date: 08/03/89. Time: 22:36:37. Read 13 Times. From : Tasslehoff Burfoot To : Subj : Me RECEIVED I don't believe this message exists, therefore it does. >The Tazz< Message # 174. Reply to #173 Date: 08/04/89. Time: 02:17:32. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Tasslehoff Burfoot Subj : Me RECEIVED I THINK THIS MESSAGE DOES EXIST. THEREFORE YOU DON'T. C- - - Message # 175. Reply to #174 Date: 08/04/89. Time: 13:15:07. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : Me RECEIVED I don't think either of you exist, therefore, you don't! Message # 176. Reply to #175 Date: 08/04/89. Time: 15:10:32. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Me RECEIVED I don't think the subop of this board exists, and he doesn't! !!! GAVISCON !!! Message # 178. Reply to #176 Date: 08/05/89. Time: 21:03:54. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Me RECEIVED I'M SURE THAT I DON'T EXIST. DOES THAT MEAN THAT I DON'T HAVE TO GO TO WORK TOMORROW? C- - - Message # 179. Reply to #178 Date: 08/07/89. Time: 01:33:13. Read 15 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : Me RECEIVED Just because you don't exist, it doesn't mean your job doesn't exist. There- fore, you must get up and do it, even if it's not actually you doing it, but the part of you that would exist, if you did. (Which you don't) Tasslehoff: I don't think you exist, so don't pretend to be there. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- Message # 180. Reply to #179 Date: 08/08/89. Time: 20:49:35. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Me RECEIVED If I existed, I would probably agree with you. (but I don't, so I won't!) #180. Message # 181. Date: 08/09/89. Time: 02:38:18. Read 15 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Existors/Nonexistors Subj : A question... I pretty much gnow who exists out of you, and who doesn't. Now, could someone tell me if I exist? I need an external opinion. !!! GAVISCON !!! -I'm pink, therefore I'm spam. Message # 182. Reply to #181 Date: 08/09/89. Time: 04:40:45. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : A question... RECEIVED ACTUALLY I THINK YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO DOES EXIST. YOU ARE ALL ALONE. A FIGMENT OF OUR IMAGINATION. C- - - Message # 183. Date: 08/10/89. Time: 13:31:48. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Hack Man Subj : Uh oh! RECEIVED Boy! Then I feel pretty silly talking to all of you! That's terrible. To think I'm the only one here who exists... I feel so alone. I guess the rest of you are all bad special effects, hm? !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Figment of someone's imagination @=- Message # 184. Reply to #183 Date: 08/16/89. Time: 20:03:27. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Uh oh! RECEIVED EXTREMELY BAD. AND YOU GNOW WHAT. I HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE THE FIGMENT OF A CERTIAN WHITE RAT'S IMAGINATION. C- - - P.S. AND RIGHT NOW THEY ARE FEEDING HIM OVERDOSES OF RED DYE #7 Message # 185. Reply to #182 Date: 08/17/89. Time: 00:35:06. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : A question... RECEIVED I thought he was a pigment of his imagination! Message # 186. Reply to #184 Date: 08/17/89. Time: 00:35:58. Read 16 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : Uh oh! RECEIVED Red dye #7? I gues that explains the shade of the pigment! Message # 187. Date: 08/19/89. Time: 03:25:03. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Me Subj : Existance Well this is a fine thing, then! I guess, for all intensive BBS privledges, I'll just have to cease existing... (And it has nothing to do with Berkeley) !!! GAVISCON !!! -Before I go, I'd like you all to consider Racer X for Obfuscate. I think he's been looking promising lately. Message # 188. Date: 09/16/89. Time: 23:13:00. Read 25 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : The New Obfuscates! Subj : Greetings! PERMIFIED Hail, and well met. I'd like to greet all the new obfuscates, and may you all find a probiscus underlying the corporation. But that's not the point. And neither is that. Being the most senior member of the obfuscates, and founder of the name, (hah, I bet the rest of you didn't even gnow that, did you? Yup, looked it up in a thesaurus all by myself) I think that Hack's and Music Man's choices are good ones. Therefore. Lynx, Peggy, Racer X, and Yellowbeard do hereby have the infamous non- distinction of putting the --==OBFUSCATE==-- symbol beneath their name, if they so choose to do so. Please gnote the way it's supposed to be done, though, I've seen a few that weren't quite right. Anyway, there you are. Yeah, right there. HACK Gnote: Give them full access to this board, kinda silly that they can only read. Especially since there will be nothing TO read if you don't give them write access. Also, I'd like to apologize to Lynx, for our ridiculousness. We were being entirely too amoeba-like. So, maybe you were wondering who else had this dubious distinction? Well, me too, let's see if I can remember: Lex Luthor: Founder of Dillusion (absent) Lord Cirdan: Founder of the Gnome's Castle (psuedo-absent) HACK MAN: First Hackbot Obfuscate The Music Man: First Insane Obfuscate Gaviscon Aviscenna: First Dead Time-travelling Obfuscate (absent) Frammis Man: Founder of the Partisans of Parenthesis (absent) Cleric Ilsaram: First Obfuscate awarded the : for nifty stories. (absent) Pizza Man: First Pizza-related Obfuscate Tasslehoff Burfoot: Least Gnown Obfuscate Lynx: Most Tortured by his Nomination Obfuscate Peggy: First female Obfuscate Racer X: First Obfuscate to have a one letter last name. YellowBeard: First Obfuscate that was Most Gnoted for his folicles. Did I miss anyone? If so, I'm entirely sorry, and you have every right to send me all your cash....all your cash...all your cash...all your cash... all your cash...all your cash... Ok, you can wake up now. You will remember nothing but the part about the cash. L8r... :::Lord Cirdan Message # 189. Date: 09/16/89. Time: 23:56:13. Read 19 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : Hack Man Subj : By the way... RECEIVED I still have that little piece of paper that says: HACK MAN WAS HERE C - - - The donation was truly appreciated, though it got me no where. Perhaps I should send it back to you? To the rest of you: The Gnome's Castle was run on an Apple //e, with only two disk drives. That is approximately only 256K of disk space. Just imagine all the fun stuff I coulda done with what I have now... sigh. Well, maybe I'll live in Ventura County again some day, and the Gnome's Castle will return. Sigh. On the other hand, I am attempting to start up something similar on a computer on Internet. Internet is a network that allows you to log onto any other computer in the network (and there are thousands) as long as you have an account there. Also, you can chat with anyone else on the net, and do other neat things. I strongly urge you guys to see what can be done about getting a public mainframe that is connectedtou Internet in your county. I've heard that Santa Monica has already done that, and anyone can get an account there. Anyway, the cool thing is that you could all call there, and have a real-time chat, even with me and Gaviscon. So anyway, maybe you should look into it. L8r... :::Lord Cirdan Message # 191. Date: 12/14/89. Time: 05:07:07. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : DOINK ONE OF THE NEW OBFUSCATES WENT AND REMOVED POSTING ACCESS TO THE SUB BOARD FROM SEVERAL OF THE OTHER NEW OBFUSCATES WITHOUT REMOVING HIS OWN ACCESS AT THE SAME TIME. I'VE GONE AHEAD AND CORRECTED THE SITUATION, SO IF ANYBODY NOTICED THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO POST AND THEN SUDDENLY THEY WERENT ABLE TO, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO SO AGAIN. C- - - Message # 192. Date: 12/15/89. Time: 23:17:35. Read 15 Times. From : Lynx To : HACK MAN Subj : RECEIVED Huh? Who are you refering to? I was never able to post here (or at least if I was I never did that I can recall), and then when you made me a co-sysop I gave myself write access, because I thought I was supposed to have it. Anyway, what's going on? Lynx -confused Message # 193. Reply to #191 Date: 12/16/89. Time: 18:04:29. Read 14 Times. From : peggy To : HACK MAN Subj : DOINK RECEIVED Oh, my gosh!!! after ALL these months...and I'm stumped for words!! Message # 194. Date: 12/24/89. Time: 13:29:25. Read 15 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : recipient Subj : hmm The thing is in the thing. Wakka wakka wakka. Deeds not words. This is this. And vairious other assorted smegma. :CI --==youknow==-- Comments : NO WAY!=1 Message # 195. Date: 12/28/89. Time: 00:32:10. Read 13 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : A Capital N Subj : Tomatoes Um.... Oh, never mind. :::Lord Cirdan Well... Nah, forget it. Or froget it, for that matter. Message # 196. Date: 12/31/89. Time: 03:44:33. Read 16 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : Lord Cirdan Subj : tom's mate's toes RECEIVED Which matter was it you were speaking, metaphorically, of? :Ci :cI :ci :CI danglingallovertheplace Message # 197. Reply to #194 Date: 01/14/90. Time: 19:10:55. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Cleric Ilsaram Subj : hmm RECEIVED Smegma? Message # 198. Date: 03/31/90. Time: 16:54:00. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Subj : RECEIVED This sub is quickly becoming quite fugacious! Such evanescence is intollerable! Post! Message # 199. Date: 07/12/90. Time: 01:47:42. Read 18 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : DOINK Subj : Wow! A post! Tah dah! I really meant it when I said I'd post everywhere! Well, I'd just like to say that, every though she's gone and we'll never ever hear from her again, I believe that Candy ought to be granted Obfusactory status. Personally, I'd like to turn this into the Dillusionist equivilant of a one-sided holy war. I'll go to all lengths to see that she's posthumously granted the title she deserves. I plan to chop my own status in two, lending part of it to her memory. Then, I will painstakingly grow back the small part I had to give up until I am once again a full Obfuscate. Then, I'll lend out another small part, and so on... That way, I will eventually grow back enough to create a 100% full Obfuscate and give it to candy. I've always wanted to go through pain and sacrifice for a girl who would never realize my dedication. It's the type of thing good dramas are made of... !!! GAVISCO -=@ Margin M --==OBFUSCAT Message # 200. Date: 07/12/90. Time: 23:28:25. Read 39 Times. From : Lynx To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Gav's one-sided holy war... RECEIVED Who's Candy? °±²Û²±°L °±²Û²±°y °±²Û²±°n °±²Û²±°x --==OBFUSCATE==-- #200. Message # 201. Reply to #200 Date: 07/13/90. Time: 00:04:17. Read 18 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Lynx Subj : Gav's one-sided holy war... RECEIVED Who's candy? Why... Don't you remember? Do we forget so soon? She was the ultimate in raw Obfuscate material. She was like an anti-Hack, usually typing only in lowercase. It was only a year ago! I feel so... so... torn when I think that her memory only rests with me... Hm. She DID exist, didn't she? I mean, I didn't just imagine it all, did I? True, she's not in the user list any more, and TRUE, I can't find any old messages in the Obfuscatorium that were written by her, but... No, I refuse to go mad! It's the wrong season for that sort of thing. I usually go mad in the spring! !!! GAVISCO -=@ Margin M --==OBFUSCAT Message # 202. Reply to #201 Date: 07/13/90. Time: 17:21:56. Read 17 Times. From : Lynx To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Gav's one-sided holy war... RECEIVED Actually, you see, you are just imagining all this right now... Lynx Message # 203. Date: 07/15/90. Time: 15:17:00. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Imagination RECEIVED That can't be true. If I'm just imagining this, where am I really? !!! GAVISCO -=@ Margin M --==OBFUSCAT Message # 204. Reply to #201 Date: 07/16/90. Time: 05:25:10. Read 17 Times. From : Racer X To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Gav's one-sided holy war... RECEIVED I don't remember Candy. Did she leave before I started calling? I've been calling since January of '89. Racer X Message # 205. Reply to #203 Date: 07/16/90. Time: 05:27:01. Read 17 Times. From : Racer X To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Imagination RECEIVED If you only open your eyes, you'll see the rubber room. Racer X Message # 206. Date: 07/16/90. Time: 17:14:13. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Racer X Subj : candy RECEIVED Really? Then I don't think I'll open my eyes. It's much more fun here. As for candy, I believe you were around at the same time, as was Lynx, Peggy, and all the "newer" Obfuscates. I remember reading old Temple posts about a big debate as who we should let become Obfuscates, and I'd always supported candy, often solely if I remember correctly... Which just goes to support the idea that I imagined the whole thing. How annoying. !!! GAVISCON -=@ Margin Ma --==OBFUSCATE -Growing Back Message # 207. Reply to #206 Date: 07/17/90. Time: 23:32:50. Read 15 Times. From : Racer X To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : candy RECEIVED I wish I could open my eyes and close them again so I could see something better. That would be breaking the barriers of two realities (catatonia from within a catatonic trip). If you think this is fun, think what could be on the other side. Racer X -=]Obfuscate[=- -Achieve mindbend. Trip The Hex. Message # 208. Reply to #207 Date: 07/19/90. Time: 00:21:47. Read 17 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Racer X Subj : candy RECEIVED I think that if I were able to "open my eyes" I probably wouldn't be able to shut them again. It's like waking up from a dream, then trying to go back to sleep and continue it again... If I were really in a padded room right now, and I were to just "open my eyes" and return to sanity, I don't think it would be possible to get back here. (The same goes for any other sort of "higher consciousness" you might think of rather than the padded room scen- ario... "Brain in a jar", or "Detached consciousness", or "Kansas"...) Personally, I'd be afraid of opening my eyes. If whatever is there is extreme enough to make me imagine this place, I sure as hell wouldn't want to go back! Now, if candy were there, then maybe I'd chance it to make sure that she DOES exist and that instead of imagining her, I just imagined everything else. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- Message # 209. Reply to #208 Date: 07/20/90. Time: 15:20:17. Read 16 Times. From : Racer X To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : candy RECEIVED Maybe Candy opened her eyes. Maybe we all will at some time. The shock of being hit by an eighteen-wheeler would probably do it. Racer X Message # 210. Reply to #209 Date: 07/21/90. Time: 00:52:30. Read 14 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Racer X Subj : candy RECEIVED It shouldn't work that way. If candy "opened her eyes" then why do I still remember her, but everyone else doesn't? Personally, I'll go with the idea that candy is "real" and that all of you are "imagined" and that I'm just blending the two worlds. Hmm... I always thought that I gnew who all my imaginary friends were. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- #210. Message # 211. Reply to #210 Date: 07/23/90. Time: 00:47:38. Read 14 Times. From : Racer X To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : candy RECEIVED Maybe you and Candy are (were) (will be) in the same rubber room. She could've awakened and effected you before-whatever they do to those that awaken. You gnow of her from reality. She never existed in your Dreamstate. If she was not in your imagination with the rest of us, how do you expect us to remember her? Racer X Message # 212. Date: 07/23/90. Time: 21:53:54. Read 14 Times. From : peggy To : Gaviscon Subj : Candy I find it SO utterly fascinating that no sooner does someone bring up the subject of Candy, then voila!! she appears! Me thinks her alter ego sent her a message saying it was time for her to reappear. Strange.....strange......strange................ Message # 214. Reply to #201 Date: 08/05/90. Time: 23:23:34. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Gav's one-sided holy war... RECEIVED CANDY? WHO'S CANDY? C- - - ????? Message # 216. Reply to #199 Date: 08/05/90. Time: 23:44:42. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Wow! A post! RECEIVED BUT YOU NEED PERFECT CONDITIONS TO GROW AN OBFUSCATE. YOU CAN'T JUST PLANT ONE ANYWHERE. C- - - Message # 217. Reply to #208 Date: 08/05/90. Time: 23:45:24. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : candy RECEIVED ALL OF THIS IS A DREAM. INCLUDING YOU. I ONCE OPENED MY EYES AND SAW THE REAL REALITY BEHIND IT. IT WAS KIND OF LIKE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU CLOSE YOUR EYES AND PRESS ON YOUR EYEBALLS ONLY IN 3D. I CLOSED MY EYES RIGHT AWAY AND I WAS OK. ANYWAY, I FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO IT. WHAT YOU DO IS YOU GO TO SLEEP FOR AWHILE AND THEN YOU WAKE UP. HOWEVER, YOU HAVE TO WAKE UP WITH OUT REALIZING THAT YOU ARE AWAKE, THEN YOU OPEN YOUR EYES WITHOUT REALIZING THAT YOU HAVE OPENED THEM. C- - - Message # 218. Date: 12/25/90. Time: 17:58:54. Read 20 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : ALL, a confession Subj : CANDY!!!! Candy? Candy was, and is, me! I have a nasty habit of calling as other users. I got bored, so Candy called. A few suspected, but none were certain... Oh well, it's out I've confessed (and feel SO much better) Gav: Candy thanks you for your support Everyone else: Candy gives you the finger for forgetting her! But Then: If "a" candy has called in the last 8 months, it wasn't me. It's not rare that I log on as another....remember JOE BLOW? I've been some of the most popluar female users (heh heh heh)!!! (Why female? because there's so few of 'em!) Dillusion at it's best..... (Peggers gets points for gnowing, instinctively, that she was not a she!) The Music Man -=obfuscate=- So much for Candy calling again.... (I wonder if they'll be able to figure out who I have been calling as for the last eight months....................?) Message # 219. Date: 12/25/90. Time: 18:06:48. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : All Dillusionary its Subj : The SUB-OP What do you say we all apply ourselves and make the non-existent sub-op existent?? What do you suppose it would exist as? Message # 220. Reply to #218 Date: 12/27/90. Time: 23:31:04. Read 20 Times. From : Racer X To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : CANDY!!!! RECEIVED Who's Candy? Racer X/WFM #220. Message # 221. Reply to #219 Date: 12/27/90. Time: 23:31:53. Read 16 Times. From : Racer X To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : The SUB-OP RECEIVED The Temple subop. Racer X/WFM Message # 222. Reply to #220 Date: 12/28/90. Time: 01:05:59. Read 22 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Racer X Subj : CANDY!!!! RECEIVED You people sure forget quickly! Does anything ever change here? It's like everyone is in a state of obfuscated semi-existence! Same place, same thing..... Then what? I noticed how people ignore messages that are not to or from them, or of any obvious interest to them. Some people don't even read all the sub-boards! It's so typical, we only read what we want to read...and where do we end up? Same place, same thing.... So, has anyone thought of any new discussion topics since I've been gone? DOes anybody remember me? Did I ever exist here? Or, uh, was that just a bad dream?? Message # 223. Reply to #222 Date: 12/28/90. Time: 15:03:05. Read 20 Times. From : Racer X To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : CANDY!!!! RECEIVED That's a good question. Who are you? Are you sure you're not really this Candy person now pretending to be The Music Man? Racer X/WFM Message # 224. Date: 12/31/90. Time: 14:37:01. Read 24 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : candy Subj : ARGH, I say, Argh! My heart is torn asunder and my brain is melded together! How dare you mess with my mind that way? I have enough trouble getting my mind suitably messed myself. Wouldn't you gnow that the devotion of my life turns out to be com- pletely unreal?!??! Is this simple a cruel joke cast upon me from the Fates? Am I destined to live such a fantasy world that even I cannot tell any of my imaginary friends from the simply irrational? Oh depression depression! I'll devote the rest of my existance here on out to poetry of dispair and deeply emotional cinema dramas. snif. (You WOULD have to catch me in a deeply romantic, emotionally turbulent per- iod in my vacation...) !!! GAVISCON !!! SCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- n Master @=- -Trapped on Terra on Terra -Now what am I going to do as an Obfuscate and a half? I was saving up little pieces of myself to give to candy to grant her Obfuscate status, and have since then grown it back, but am now stuck with all those pieces I have saved... Message # 226. Reply to #224 Date: 01/02/91. Time: 01:16:54. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : ARGH, I say, Argh! RECEIVED SAVE THOSE EXTRA PORTIONS OF OBFUSCATION IN YOUR BELLY BUTTON. THE BELLY BUTTON MOLD MAY BE ABLE TO UTILIZE IT TO EVOLVE INTO SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. C- - - P.S. I SUSPECTED IT ALL ALONG. Message # 227. Reply to #224 Date: 01/02/91. Time: 04:28:54. Read 19 Times. From : Racer X To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : ARGH, I say, Argh! RECEIVED So who is candy anyway? Racer X/WFM Message # 228. Date: 01/03/91. Time: 17:14:50. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Anyone real Subj : candy Apparrantly candy isn't. candy didn't exist. That's who candy is. candy is just an idea, a thought. I may not have any real friends, it seems. I can no longer judge between real and imaginary. All I gnow is that richer will be the world of dramatic poetry of dispair, snif The only way candy may live is as an imaginary, and with The Music Man's per- mission, perhaps I shall one day imagine her myself, along with my other im- aginary friends. Maybe I'll even let my half-Obfuscatism grow into a full one so as to give it to her. Think of it... The first imaginary Obfuscate! !!! GAVISCON !!! SCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- n Master @=- -) FTAS (- (- -Trapped on Terra. on Terra. Message # 230. Date: 01/05/91. Time: 03:40:28. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : OBFUSCATRONIX SOME OF YOU TRYING TO DO OBFUSCATED STUFF IN YOUR MESSAGES HAVE PROBABLY NOTICED THAT IT ACTS WIERDLY. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GNOW ABOUT THIS AGAIN SINCE IT'S MORE POPULAR ALL OF A SUDDEN. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE VT100 MODE IS ALWAYS IN INSERT MODE WHEN YOU ARE TYPING IN A MESSAGE AND THEN WHEN IT PLAYS BACK A MESSAGE IT'S IN OVERTYPE MODE. THIS MAKES MESSAGES WITH BACKSPACING IN IT LOOK REALLY WIERD WHILE YOU ARE TYPING THEM IN BUT STILL LOOK NORMAL WHEN YOU READ THEM BACK. THE EASIEST FIX FOR THIS PROBLEM IS TO USE ANSI MODE (BUT MOST IBM PROGRAMS DON'T WORK RIGHT IN ANSI MODE BECAUSE IBM ANSI OMITS THE INSERT CHARACTER COMMAND (IN THIS CASE I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU TEMPORARILY CHANGE YOUR TERMINAL TYPE TO "SLOW ANSI" BEFORE YOU START TO ENTER A MESAGE WITH BACKSPACING IN IT (SLOW ANSI SHOULD WORK OK, EVEN WHILE YOUR TERM PROGRAM IS STILL IN VT100 EMULATION MODE))) WHILE TYPING BACKSPACED MESSAGES THAT WAY YOUR MESSAGE WILL LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THE FINAL PRODUCT WHILE YOU ARE TYPING IT IN. C- - - RFSOP PRESIDENT OBFUSCITRONIX P.S. I LIKE LYNX'S IDEA TO CALL IT OBFUSCATRONIX. FOR ALL OF YOU THAT DIDN'T GO TO COMDEX WITH US (WHICH IS ALL OF YOU) OBFUSCATRONIX IS THE NAME OF OUR IMAGINARY COMPANY. THE NAME WAS QUITE WELL RECIEVED BY THE WAY. SINCE IT IS AN IMAGINARY COMPANY, I THINK I WILL MAKE CANDY THE SECRETARY TREASURER. #230. Message # 231. Reply to #230 Date: 01/05/91. Time: 15:17:32. Read 22 Times. From : Lynx To : HACK MAN Subj : OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED I was wondering about that.... Okay, so Candy is in the company now... can I have an affair with her behind Gav's back? Lynx VP in Charge of Research, Obfuscatronix --==OBFUSCATE==-- p.s. Hack, I though of a nifty Idea... why not make infinite messages terminate to the next line of the message So that you can do some neat-o infinite thingy, then clean it up on a line following it... I say this mainly because 90% of the time I end up reading my funky messages and get stuck with some terrible color combos like green on light blue. Also, it would be neat to have it that way for other reasons. Message # 232. Reply to #231 Date: 01/05/91. Time: 16:27:29. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Lynx Subj : OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE THINGY ABOUT HAVING IT TERMINATE ON THE NEXT LINE OF THE MESSAGE. I MEAN IF YOU MAKE AN INFINITELY REPEATING LINE THEN HOW IS IT GOING TO EVER GET TO THE NEXT LINE? C- - - Message # 233. Reply to #231 Date: 01/06/91. Time: 07:26:00. Read 22 Times. From : Racer X To : Lynx Subj : OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED By the way, did the thing I tried work all right? I'm back in ASCII again, so I don't gnow. Racer X/WFM Message # 234. Date: 01/06/91. Time: 20:46:56. Read 19 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Real people? Subj : candy Well, I'm happy that candy is finally receiving the due credit that she deserves. I think she'd make an excellent president, and on her behalf, I approve and thank you. As for you, Lynx, I heard that! Next time I suggest you address me as that you never gnow what's real again! !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- Message # 235. Reply to #233 Date: 01/07/91. Time: 00:18:30. Read 22 Times. From : Lynx To : Racer X Subj : OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED yeah it kinda worked... but next time you should put a clear screen at the beginning. if the reader was at the bottom of the screen when they got to your message it got slightly fudged Lynx Message # 236. Reply to #235 Date: 01/07/91. Time: 04:32:17. Read 18 Times. From : Racer X To : Lynx Subj : OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED I'll have to work on that. If I can figure this out as well as I figured MCI, I might be able to do some neat stuff. And Obfuscatronix has many more features. Racer X/WFM Message # 238. Date: 01/08/91. Time: 00:55:46. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : USERS NAME OK. THE CAT'S OUT OF THE BAG. THAT'S RIGHT. I WASN'T PERSONALLY PRONOUNCING DOINKNOBNESS UPON YOU. I'VE ADDED A NEW FEATURE. YOU CAN NOW QUOTE THE READERS NAME AND PASSWORD. NAME = ^\^O PASSWORD = ^\^W WHEN YOU TYPE THIS THE NAME OR PASSWORD WILL NOT IMMEDIATELY APPEAR ON THE SCREEN. LEAVE PLENTY OF ROOM ON THAT LINE SINCE SOME NAMES AND PASSWORDS ARE LONGER THAN OTHERS. C- - - Message # 239. Date: 01/08/91. Time: 10:36:01. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : SPEAKING OF THE 3AM CLUB I WAS PLANNING ON HAVING A MEETING THIS FRIDAY THE 11TH. C- - - Message # 240 -- Private. #240. Message # 241. Date: 01/08/91. Time: 22:22:55. Read 26 Times. From : Lynx To : All OBFUSCATEs Subj : Doink! I move to approve this (see figure a) as our new official OBFUSCATE sign-off. figure a. --==OBFUSCATE==-- (Note: It is only a minor change, and we could even have different colors for different ranks just like in star trek TNG, or just have a different color for each major person (all, of course), just like in Star Trek TNG(GRIN). ) Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 242. Reply to #241 Date: 01/08/91. Time: 22:54:50. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Lynx Subj : Doink! RECEIVED IS THAT A MACRO OR DO YOU TYPE IT IN EVERY TIME? C- - - P.S. HOW DO YOU GENERATE THE ^H? Message # 243. Reply to #241 Date: 01/10/91. Time: 00:52:24. Read 17 Times. From : Lynx To : Lynx Subj : Doink! RECEIVED It's a macro... and I gererate the ^H the same way I generate the ^M at the end of the macro. I Type a '^' then an 'H' and wow, there it is! Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 245. Reply to #243 Date: 01/13/91. Time: 03:13:57. Read 22 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Lynx Subj : Doink! RECEIVED YEAH, I FIGURED IT OUT RIGHT AFTER I HUNG UP. DUH. UC- - - C- - C- C BURP! --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 246. Date: 02/23/91. Time: 01:05:14. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : NEW OBFUSCATES READ THE OBFUSCA BULLETINS ON THE MAIN MENU. C- - - Message # 247. Reply to #29 Date: 02/25/91. Time: 06:27:06. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : What if C-A-T really spelled "DOG" RECEIVED PERMIFIED Thot wos preggy daal, Musid Mon. Bug ig gokes o while go cype in ghis dace. +++Trovebusger --==ABFUSDOGE==-- Message # 248. Reply to #89 Date: 02/25/91. Time: 20:10:21. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : SYSOP Subj : Ticketstubs... RECEIVED Were they sort of like bugs, or more like kumquats hanging in a tree and swaying with the wind? +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 249. Reply to #97 Date: 02/25/91. Time: 20:15:04. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : SNARGLEDEGOP RECEIVED a. Back in my freshman high school summer Intro to Physical Science class, our entire class destroyed 126 test tubes (yes, we kept records). I guess you could say we had a fondness for test tubes, although it was kind of strange. b. Neither green nor yellow, but I stick them in the refrigerator until they're black! c. An alien just cleared my cranial memory, so I forgot the last question. +++who am I buster? --==Ob Who Skates?==-- DOINK! Oh, now I remember... I wish I didn't! Message # 250. Reply to #103 Date: 02/25/91. Time: 20:21:13. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : NEAT NEW THINGY RECEIVED Do you mean if I do a ^/ ^V, I can tell you that you suck / times over? +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- I bet I blew that, but I'm trying. Very trying... #250. Message # 251. Reply to #132 Date: 02/25/91. Time: 20:37:18. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : More yak facts RECEIVED Yak! Yak! Yak! All you do is yak! +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE = = - - I ' v e s l i p p e d a c u r s o r . . . Message # 252. Reply to #249 Date: 02/25/91. Time: 22:16:54. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : SNARGLEDEGOP RECEIVED OK. YOU PASS AS A MERE WIERDO AND NOT A COMMUNIST MUTANT FROM OUTER SPACE. C- - - Message # 253. Reply to #250 Date: 02/25/91. Time: 22:17:52. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : NEAT NEW THINGY RECEIVED NOT QUITE. THAT'S THE OBFUSCATRONIX THAT WE USE TO CALCULATE THE VALUE OF PI TO INFINITY DIGITS. C- - - Message # 254. Reply to #241 Date: 02/26/91. Time: 18:46:23. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Lynx Subj : Doink! RECEIVED Uh, what color is it? +++Gravebuster --==in obfuscated monochrome==-- Message # 255. Date: 02/26/91. Time: 18:49:07. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Rules For Electing New Obfuscates RECEIVED You probably were watching me. I was reading messages 80-210 on this board, most of which were arguments as to whether Lynx or Gary the Gallant were ever obfuscates, and if Lynx, Peggy and Racer X should become obfuscates or not. There were never any hard and fast rules laid down for becoming obfuscates, but there was a general consensus that the initiate had to perform unique obfuscation. +++Gravebuster --==i'M pReTtY uNiQuE, tOo==-- Message # 256. Reply to #254 Date: 02/27/91. Time: 09:47:19. Read 14 Times. From : Lynx To : Gravebuster Subj : Doink! RECEIVED Well... the --== and the ==-- are just white or green on your screen. And the OBFUSCATE part is BLUE or green on your screen. Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 257. Reply to #256 Date: 02/27/91. Time: 11:43:25. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Lynx Subj : Doink! RECEIVED Actually, the --== and ==-- are light green, and the OBFUSCATE is dark green, but that only details what you already haven't said. +++Gravebuster --==monochrome is boring==-- --==WAH!==-- Message # 258. Reply to #241 Date: 02/28/91. Time: 04:06:13. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Lynx Subj : Doink! RECEIVED IT'S A GOOD IDEA. BUT IT GOES TO FAR. I THINK THIS IS MUCH BETTER. --==OBFUSCATE==-- UC- - - C- - C- C P.S. I'M RED. P.P.S. 3 SPACES IS JUST TOO REACTIONARY. Message # 259. Date: 03/02/91. Time: 13:17:59. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : I was kinda wondering... RECEIVED Thank you for using your power of martial law to install me and UB as obfuscates. But I was wondering if it was at all possible to get the founder of obfuscation, Lord Cirdan, to call and congratulate us. His acknowledgement of our obfuscation would be so obfuscating... +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 260. Date: 03/02/91. Time: 13:20:59. Read 24 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : /Im g/oi/n tq giv it /a tr/i /x/e n/ombet iz v/ar/e difik/ult tq /qz at f_st tr/i. B/i /x/e w/a, /i n/otist /x/arz n/o let_ listed nekst tq _/t (/xats w/i f_st, let_ and _/t @l hav /xat "_" in /xem). @ls/o, iz lo/n /o speld /o? And iz /x/e /swo s*nd speld wi/t u? Aft_ aw/il, r/iti/n in n/ombet bekumz /ez/e_... +++Gr/avbust_ --==OBF/QSKIT==-- or iz it --==OBFQSKIT==--? #260. Message # 261. Date: 03/02/91. Time: 13:35:23. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : For The Next Weqk... I sugqest that we substitutq the letqer "q" for alq silent or unqecesqary letqers, except of coqrsq for silent "k", wqich a "g" wilq continuq to be the standard. I sugqest restricting this practicq to this subqoqrd and the Obfuscatorium, so that we wilq demonstratq our obfuscation (?) for thosq qho wquld apqreciatq it. +++Gravqbuster --==OBFUSCATQ==-- Message # 263. Reply to #259 Date: 03/03/91. Time: 07:35:51. Read 16 Times. From : Racer X To : Gravebuster Subj : I was kinda wondering... RECEIVED Ha! A typical gnee-jerk reaction to the situation. You and UB just lucked out! Racer X/WFM --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 264. Reply to #263 Date: 03/03/91. Time: 12:07:31. Read 12 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Racer X Subj : I was kinda wondering... RECEIVED Yqu'rq welcomq, toq! +++Gravqbuster --==OBFUSCATQ==-- Message # 266. Reply to #259 Date: 03/03/91. Time: 16:14:48. Read 11 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : I was kinda wondering... RECEIVED ACTUALQY I WAS THE ONE WQO CAMQ UP WITH THE OBFUSCATQON CONCEPT - THIS WAS HOWEVQR INSPIRQD BY THE DILQUSQON CONCEPT OF LEX LUTHOR, LORD CIRDANS CO-SYSOP (I THINK HE'S IN JAPAN RIQQT NOW (NOT SURQ)). C- - - Message # 267. Reply to #260 Date: 03/03/91. Time: 16:17:44. Read 12 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : /Im g/oi/n tq giv it /a tr/i RECEIVED HIR AR SUM KOREK/SUNS G/OI/N = G/OIN/NG N/OMBET = N/OMUBET V/AR/E = VER/E F_ST = FRST OR F/URST (N/OTIS /X/E N/Q (/U = (EA)RTH) DEFINI/SUN. /EVEN /X/O /I /TI/NK KALIFORN/EUNS KAN'T PR/ON*NS IT, L/ENKS (TUF N/AM TQ SPEL) DISUGR/ES SO /I P$T IT IN /XER) /X/ARZ = /XERZ R/ITI/N = R/ITI/NG ALS/O /I S/A OBF/QSK/AT BUT YQ KAN S/A OBF/QSKIT /OR OBFQSKIT /OR /EVEN /OBFQSK/AT IF YQ W@NT. C- - - HAK MAN P.S. /I S/A T/OM/AT/O AND YQ S/A T/OM@T/O P.P.S. WUT IZ /A /SWA? /I NEVER DID FIGYUR /XAT *T. Message # 269. Reply to #267 Date: 03/05/91. Time: 05:55:15. Read 12 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : /Im g/oi/n tq giv it /a tr/i RECEIVED Schwa! The "a" sounds likq the "o" in pot morq than any of the other sounds. I apqreciatq the corqections. /ta/nks! +++Gravqbuster --==OBF/QSKIT==-- Message # 270. Reply to #263 Date: 03/05/91. Time: 22:37:18. Read 13 Times. From : Unka Buck To : Racer X Subj : I was kinda wondering... RECEIVED Like the baseball players always say, "It's better to be lucky than good." -UNKA BUCK- -Lucky SOB- -and most important... --==OBFUSCATE==-- #270. Message # 271. Date: 03/15/91. Time: 19:30:37. Read 12 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Suggestions RECEIVED I have a couple of suggestions for new obfuscatricks. First, how about a control character that would temporarily disable the "more" prompt for one message? Used together with the ^\^I trick, it will cause the effect to continuosly scroll. Second, is it possible to make your own character? If so, and if you're ambitious enough, how about creating a control character so Unka Buck's raspberry punctuation mark would appear? It would be a neat hack. +++Gravebuster --==anyway, I'd thought I'd mention them==-- Message # 272. Reply to #271 Date: 03/16/91. Time: 21:48:42. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Suggestions RECEIVED THIS IS A TEST OF THE TEMPORARY DISABLEMENT OF THE MORE PROMPT. ALSO IT IS A TEST OF THE NEW RANDOM COLOR OBFUSCATRIX. DOINK! Message # 273. Date: 03/16/91. Time: 21:54:23. Read 25 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : OK HERE IT IS. DISABLE MORE PROMPT FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE MESSAGE = ^\^Y GENERATE A RANDOM FOREGROUND AND BACKGROUND COLOR = ^\^Z UC- - - C- - C- C --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 274. Date: 03/17/91. Time: 07:47:05. Read 16 Times. From : Racer X To : HACK MAN Subj : Another Suggestion RECEIVED How about putting a little something in that allows part of a public message to be sent only to Obfuscates? For example, I just posted a message in The Tavern about the AFG program. I don't want to have to explain what AFG is to EVERYONE. I could've put a little something in the signoff or an extra paragraph in to explain it to only certain people. If I can do that with my COMMODORE 64 BBS, Turbomessage should be able to do it. Racer X/WFM --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 275. Reply to #274 Date: 03/17/91. Time: 12:05:48. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Racer X Subj : Another Suggestion RECEIVED OK. SOUNDS COOL. I'LL CODE IT ACCORDING TO USER LEVEL. BY THE WAY, I'M NOW OUT OF CONTROL CHARACTERS (EXCEPT FOR X). BUT I'M SURE I'LL WANT TO ADD MORE IN THE FUTURE, SO I'M GOING TO CHANGE THE METHOD FOR ENTERING OBFUSCATRONIX. I WILL PROBABLY IMPLEMENT LYNX'S SUGGESTION. WE WILL HAVE REGULAR OBFUSCATRONIX AND EXTENDED OBFUSCATRONIX. EXTENDED OBFUSCATRONIX WILL REQUIRE THAT YOU ENTER TWO CODES. HERE'S A POSSIBLE EXAMPLE COVERING YOUR REQUESTED MODIFICATION. ^\^X^R 10000 THIS X STANDS FOR EXTENDED OBFUSCATRONICS. THE R STANDS FOR RESTRICTED MESSAGE. WHAT IT WILL DO IS MAKE THE REMAINDER OF THE MESSAGE UNREADABLE BY ANYONE WITH A LOWER THAN 10000 ACCESS LEVEL. (OR UNTIL ANOTHER RESTRICTED MESSAGE COMMAND IS ENCOUNTERED THAT CHANGES THE ACCESS LEVEL YET AGAIN) (IN OTHER WORDS YOU COULD RESTRICT SOME TEXT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MESSAGE AND THEN TURN THE RESTRICTION OFF BY SENDING THE FOLLOWING. ^\^X^R 0 THIS DOESN'T WORK YET HOWEVER. I'LL LET YOU GNOW WHEN IT DOES. C- - - Message # 279. Reply to #275 Date: 03/18/91. Time: 00:33:26. Read 11 Times. From : HACK MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : Another Suggestion RECEIVED OK, I'VE ADDED THE MESSAGE RESTRICTION FUNCTION, I'VE MADE ONLY ONE CHANGE. I DECIDED TO MULTIPLY BY 1000 SO THAT ALL THE USER LEVELS COULD BE HANDLED BY ONE BYTE OF MESSAGE INFORMATION. SO, FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU WANTED TO SEND A P.S. ONLY TO ME THEN YOU WOULD DO THE FOLLOWING. ^\^X^R 30 AFTER THAT THE REST OF THE MESSAGE CAN ONLY BE SEEN BY PEOPLE WITH ACCESS OF 30,000 OR HIGHER (NAMELY ME). ^\^X^R 10 WOULD RESTRICT THE MESSAGE TO OBFUSCATE LEVEL OR GREATER. C- - - P.S. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO SECURELY SEND A MESSAGE TO ME AND ME ONLY SO THAT NOT EVEN LYNX CAN SEE IT. (ALTHOUGH LYNX CAN'T SEE MESSAGES ON THE EMAIL BOARD EITHER UNLESS HE DECIDES TO CHEAT.) P.P.S. IF YOU'VE FORGOTTEN THERE IS A LIST OF USER LEVELS ON THE USER BULLETIN LIST ON THE MAIN MENU. Message # 280. Reply to #271 Date: 03/18/91. Time: 12:21:02. Read 14 Times. From : Lynx To : Gravebuster Subj : Suggestions RECEIVED There is a problem with the ^I trick... when you use it in a message and then do a ^N to view the message before saving it, you are thouroughly locked out! it just goes on showing you the infinite message forever untill you hang up. I tried every key and combonation I could think of. It just ignored me. however once you save it and read it like normal everything it fine you can press space to terminae the message. You gnow? Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- #280. Message # 281. Reply to #274 Date: 03/18/91. Time: 12:24:37. Read 14 Times. From : Lynx To : Racer X Subj : Another Suggestion RECEIVED Very most excellentest idea yet! Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 282. Reply to #279 Date: 03/18/91. Time: 12:28:07. Read 19 Times. From : Lynx To : HACK MAN Subj : Another Suggestion RECEIVED Me cheat? Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 283. Reply to #281 Date: 03/19/91. Time: 12:57:13. Read 13 Times. From : Racer X To : Lynx Subj : Another Suggestion RECEIVED I think that's about the only really useful thing that I can do with MCI (I'm sure you remember MCI) that couldn't be done here. I'll look over the list of stuff and if there's anything else, I'll be sure to mention it. Well... It would be nice if Turbomessage supported CBM-ASCII, but the trouble of programming that in probably wouldn't be worth it. Racer X/WFM --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 284. Reply to #282 Date: 03/19/91. Time: 13:00:12. Read 16 Times. From : Racer X To : Lynx Subj : Another Suggestion RECEIVED That's yet another thing that probably wouldn't be worth it. Having read user's mail before (and SysOp's mail too), I assure you it tends to be pretty dull. By the way, I don't read other people's mail for kicks. Some of the stuff I want to do can leave me with no alternative. Racer X/WFM --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 285. Reply to #284 Date: 03/21/91. Time: 02:56:47. Read 16 Times. From : Lynx To : Racer X Subj : Another Suggestion RECEIVED I read other people private messages by accident alot... Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 286. Reply to #285 Date: 03/22/91. Time: 15:25:51. Read 14 Times. From : Racer X To : Lynx Subj : Another Suggestion RECEIVED Ever edit 'em? Racer X/WFM --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 287. Reply to #286 Date: 03/23/91. Time: 12:54:48. Read 13 Times. From : Lynx To : Racer X Subj : Another Suggestion RECEIVED I can't.. the BBS won't let me edit other people's messages. Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 288. Reply to #272 Date: 03/23/91. Time: 22:21:42. Read 11 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Suggestions RECEIVED The "more" prompt was disabled, but I couldn't tell if the random color worked. +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 289. Reply to #279 Date: 03/23/91. Time: 22:26:32. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Another Suggestion RECEIVED Whenever we use that obfuscatrick, be sure to say the information is restricted, or one of us may reply to something that no one else was supposed to see. +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 290. Reply to #280 Date: 03/23/91. Time: 22:28:45. Read 11 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Lynx Subj : Suggestions RECEIVED Thanks for the info! +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- #290. Message # 291. Reply to #282 Date: 03/23/91. Time: 22:30:22. Read 11 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Lynx Subj : Another Suggestion RECEIVED I see that grin! (Although, you really always have a grin, it's just that right now it appears to be more of a grin than when you usually grin, even though your grin isn't any more grinny...) +++Gravebuster --==grin==-- Message # 292. Date: 03/25/91. Time: 07:06:24. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : User Names And Passwords RECEIVED What control characters do we use to cause the name and password of the person reading a message to appear in the text? I didn't see that trick listed in the Obfuscate Bulletins. +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 293. Reply to #292 Date: 03/26/91. Time: 02:52:08. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : User Names And Passwords RECEIVED UH. I FORGOT. I THINK I POSTED IT HERE SOMEWHERE. TRY ^U ^V OR ^W. WHAT EVER ISN'T DEFINED. C- - - Message # 294. Reply to #293 Date: 03/26/91. Time: 20:59:35. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : User Names And Passwords RECEIVED Well, I already gnow that control-u is up and control-v is the random number generator, so it must be control-w, unless its control-e, -o, or some form of number or punctuation. +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- .o Message # 295. Reply to #294 Date: 03/28/91. Time: 02:56:48. Read 14 Times. From : Lynx To : Gravebuster Subj : User Names And Passwords RECEIVED I think they are N and W or O... they are letters.... Lynx p.s. this is a test <-one of them (^\^o in fact and it's the name) p.p.s. this is another test <--- Your password! ^\^w Message # 298. Reply to #295 Date: 03/28/91. Time: 05:41:13. Read 12 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Lynx Subj : User Names And Passwords RECEIVED Thanks, Lynx! Now could you should me again how you do that ever-changing "obfuscate" macro? +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 299. Reply to #298 Date: 03/28/91. Time: 05:44:17. Read 11 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Gravebuster Subj : User Names And Passwords RECEIVED By the way, I used a "1" after the control 'I' on that message. I seem to be missing something. Here's what I did: control-Z. --==OBFUSCATE==-- control-Y. Return. control-U. control-I 1. Return a couple of times. dot o. +++Gravebuster --==I can handle this==-- Message # 300. Reply to #299 Date: 03/29/91. Time: 00:19:13. Read 22 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : User Names And Passwords RECEIVED TRY ^\^I 0. 0 WILL REPEAT THE LINE THAT YOU ARE CURRENTLY ON. C- - - #300. Message # 301. Reply to #299 Date: 03/29/91. Time: 02:05:08. Read 20 Times. From : Lynx To : Gravebuster Subj : User Names And Passwords RECEIVED the problem is the last bit about hitting return a couple of times and then .o you need to type control-s right atfer doing the ctrl-i 1 return (which should give you a beep like normal) for some reason having stuff after a control i command causes it to flak and repeat the whole message or random amounts of it for ever. Lynx Message # 302. Reply to #301 Date: 03/29/91. Time: 03:11:40. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Lynx Subj : User Names And Passwords RECEIVED Thanks, Lynx! Nice try, Hack Man. Let's give it a whirl... +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 303. Reply to #302 Date: 03/29/91. Time: 03:13:56. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Gravebuster Subj : User Names And Passwords RECEIVED Yeah! It works! +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 304. Reply to #289 Date: 04/02/91. Time: 08:18:15. Read 21 Times. From : Racer X To : Gravebuster Subj : Another Suggestion RECEIVED That makes it all the more entertaining. Racer X/WFM --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 305. Reply to #292 Date: 04/02/91. Time: 08:19:29. Read 17 Times. From : Racer X To : Gravebuster Subj : User Names And Passwords RECEIVED It's somewhere in The Temple. Use the scan feature and scan for "password". Racer X/WFM --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 306. Date: 04/12/91. Time: 00:20:09. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Its r/el/e fun/e h* /i get bl/amd f/or /x/e b/ord b/ei/ng ded, but /i n/o its in jest. /i /ti/nk port (?) uf /x/e problem iz Gizm/o @lw/az c@lz. But /x/e m/an problem iz /xat /x/e b/ord'z aktivnes g/oz in s/ikulz. But /i dq l/ik @l /x/e obf/qskutriks evr/ewun iz dqi/ng. +++Gr/avbust/ur --==OBF\QSKIT==-- Message # 307. Date: 04/14/91. Time: 14:01:47. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Lynx Subj : Random Appearance Of Characters RECEIVED I gnow you told me before, but I forgot. How does one cause a character or characters to randomly appear all over the screen? +++Gravebuster --==I gnew I should have written that down!==-- Message # 308. Date: 05/12/91. Time: 02:19:21. Read 18 Times. From : Unka Buck To : HM, GB, Lx Subj : TMM's alledged call I checked the user logs for The Music Man's call. I don't think it was him. The caller logged on as Music Man, which is different from The Music Man. I checked the register and they are two different handles. Music Man logged on at 1200 baud. Could be Gizmo being Super Hacker again. (But, I don't gnow what baud TMM uses.) -UNKA BUCK- -OBFUSCATE- Message # 309. Reply to #308 Date: 05/12/91. Time: 20:08:02. Read 19 Times. From : Lynx To : Unka Buck Subj : TMM's alledged call RECEIVED He usually calls at 600 bps. Even though he has a 2400 baud modem. Or at least the log files says 600... Lynx I doubt he called. Message # 310. Reply to #308 Date: 05/17/91. Time: 22:17:43. Read 19 Times. From : Racer X To : Unka Buck Subj : TMM's alledged call RECEIVED I do believe that I've seen a Music Man on another board. We should probably not exclude what's-his-name from our suspicions, though. Racer >< (formerly Racer X)/WFM --==OBFUSCATE==-- #310. Message # 311. Reply to #310 Date: 05/19/91. Time: 21:14:11. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Racer X Subj : TMM's alledged call RECEIVED Good detective work on the user's file, UB. Did you by chance happen to notice who called before and after this "Music Man" fake? So, RX, there's someone on other boards using "Music Man" as a handle? Do you gnow him? Maybe you could ask him if he logged on to Hack's? Hack Man, when is TMM gonna bless us with his obfuscation again? +++Gravebuster Message # 312. Date: 05/19/91. Time: 21:17:55. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Doinknobic Merchandise I mentioned to Lynx the other day that we could create a real "doinknob". All we need to do is to fill the hollow part of a doorknob with the same type of circuitry as is in those plastic balls, the balls that if you hold one and connect between the two contacts, it laughs or screams. Make sure the contacts are on the outside of the doorknob, and then program the thing to say "DOINK!" everytime someone connects the two contacts. There are obviously some difficulties in making the thing, but it is do-able. +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 313. Reply to #310 Date: 05/21/91. Time: 00:09:54. Read 16 Times. From : Unka Buck To : Racer X Subj : TMM's alledged call RECEIVED Shouldn't that be "what's-his-names"? -UNKA BUCK- Formerly -UNKA BUCK- Comments : WAY!=1 Message # 314. Reply to #311 Date: 05/21/91. Time: 01:59:20. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : TMM's alledged call RECEIVED HELLIFINO. C- - - Message # 315. Reply to #312 Date: 05/21/91. Time: 02:00:14. Read 23 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Doinknobic Merchandise RECEIVED I LOVE IT! C- - - Comments : WAY!=2 Message # 316. Date: 06/02/91. Time: 15:06:43. Read 23 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : CHECK IT OUT "JUMP" TO HERE AND CHECK OUT THE NEW SUB BOARD INTRO. C- - - P.S. I THINK I LEFT OUT A COUPLE OF NAMES FROM ANCIENT TIMES BUT I'M NOT SURE WHO. Comments : WAY!=1 HAHAHA=101 HUH?=1 Message # 318. Date: 06/02/91. Time: 15:27:31. Read 25 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Lynx Subj : EDITING WITH OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED YOU SEE, SOME OBFUSCATRONIX (AS YOU PROBABLY GNOW) TAKE UP TWO CHARACTERS IN THE DISK FILE (LIKE THE ONES THAT REQUIRE YOU TO ENTER A NUMBER (COLOR CHANGE FOR INSTANCE)) AND SOME ONLY TAKE UP ONE. A FEW OF THEM TAKE OF THREE, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH AT THE MOMENT. WHEN YOU BACKSPACE OVER AN INVISIBLE OBFUSCATRONIX CHARACTER THE CURSOR IS SUPPOSED TO NOT MOVE. PLUS IT IS POSSIBLE TO BACKSPACE OVER JUST A SINGLE CHARACTER OF A TWO OR THREE CHARACTER OBFUSCATRONIX CODE, CAUSING A BIG MESS. SO, TO BACKSPACE OVER A COLOR CHANGE YOU HAVE TO BACKSPACE TWICE. I COULD ADD A ZILLION K OF CODE TO FIX IT ALL UP, AND I PROBABLY WILL WHEN I HAVE THE SPACE - BUT FOR NOW THE EASIEST THING TO DO IS TO KILL THE LINE AND RETYPE IT. C- - - Comments : WAY!=1042 NO WAY!=1 OBFUSCATED=1 Message # 319. Date: 06/03/91. Time: 23:02:51. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : AN ANNOUNCEMENT PERMIFIED HERE-YE HERE-YE, LET IT BE GNOW THAT A NEW OBFUSCATE HAS BEEN ADMITTED INTO OUR MIDST. BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT OF THE REGULAR OBFUSCATE CALLERS UBIK HAS BEEN NOMINATED FOR OBFUSCATE STAUS. AT A MEETING THIS SUNDAY THE SUBJECT WAS DISCUSSED. THE OFFICIAL VOTE IS AS FOLLOWS. UNKA BUCK "YES" LYNX "YES" GRAVE BUSTER "YES" HACK MAN "YES" TASSLEHOFF BURFOOT "OK" GAVISCON "VFJ" THOSE NOT VOTING PEGGY YELLOWBEARD RACER X THIS IS A CLEAR MAJORITY, SO I AM HAPPY TO WELCOME UBIK INTO THE FOLD. C- - - P.S. IT WAS ALSO DECIDED BY UNANIMOUS ACCLIMATION TO ADMIT UBIK IN AN OBFUSCATED WAY. THEREFORE HE HAS NOT BEEN NOTIFIED OF HIS NEW DECORATION. HE WAS SPONTANEOUSLY UPGRADED TO OBFUSCATE STATUS MONDAY MORNING AT 3AM, AND HE HAS ALREADY CALLED ONCE AND NOT NOTICED. P.P.S. HEHEHE. Comments : OBFUSCATED=100 Message # 320. Reply to #319 Date: 06/04/91. Time: 01:07:18. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : AN ANNOUNCEMENT RECEIVED Dear Ubik, When you finally notice that you are now an obfuscate, I want you to gnow that you are very welcome to the temple, even if we didn't send you an engraved invitation. Of course, you may not read this for several weeks, as in the past you have shown yourself to be a "board-jumper" rather than one who explores all the options available to you. This has been well documented in the amount of time it took you to notice that you had access to the anarchistic "Law Sucks" board. But we obviously don't hold any of this against you, mainly because our hands are full and we can't hold anything else. Besides, even if we could hold this, we still wouldn't hold it against you at this present, because you obviously have chosen to abstain from Scope and Close-Up. But for now, may your armhair grow long and may your jowls swing freely in the breeze. +++Gravebuster --==DOINK!==-- Comments : OBFUSCATED=17 #320. Message # 321. Date: 06/04/91. Time: 07:45:33. Read 14 Times. From : Ubik To : you Subj : Disorientation Oh my God,,,, Where am I ????? __ |__|< S < S / \ ============ | | | * UBIK * | |__________| |safeifused| |asdirected| ------------ Message # 323. Reply to #321 Date: 06/04/91. Time: 17:32:55. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ubik Subj : Disorientation RECEIVED It is not for you to ask "where am I?", but to ask "Why am I where?" +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 324. Reply to #319 Date: 06/04/91. Time: 23:23:22. Read 16 Times. From : Unka Buck To : HACK MAN Subj : AN ANNOUNCEMENT RECEIVED Truly, an obfuscated way to welcome him. A reward he would richly deserve if ever he discovered it. hey, Does that mean he doesn't deserve it if he doesn't discover it? Quick, somebody explain to me what I mean! -UNKA BUCK- --==OBFUSCATE==-- -Welcome aboard, Ubik.- -Well, come aboard, Ubik- -Welcome a bored Ubik- -Welcome a board, Ubik.- -...will come aboard, Ubik.- -Well "," Board, Ubik- Message # 326. Reply to #324 Date: 06/05/91. Time: 04:48:24. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Unka Buck Subj : AN ANNOUNCEMENT RECEIVED That's pretty deep, UB. Does Ubik deserve "it" if he doesn't discover "it?" After all, "it" is a very important word in the English language, a pronoun consisting of two letters, beginning with "i" and ending with "t", often substituting for neutral nouns, or even nouns that don't refer to people, and occasionally, when satire demands, a person, "it"s exact meaning being derived from the antecedent. Should Ubik deserve "it?" Well, I guess he should, since he'll need some sort of protection from the Knights of "Nee"... +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Comments : OBFUSCATED=1 Message # 327. Reply to #323 Date: 06/05/91. Time: 16:55:05. Read 20 Times. From : Ubik To : Gravebuster Subj : Disorientation RECEIVED Oh no! Ill not fall for that one. Never ask a question you might not want to here the answer to. Ubik Message # 328. Date: 06/05/91. Time: 23:51:07. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : COLOR COMPATIBILITY NOW THAT YOU CAN SPECIFY DEFAULT COLORS IT'S NECESSARY TO CHANGE THE WAY WE CHANGE COLORS IN MESSAGES. IN ORDER TO TURN THE COLORS OFF WE USUALLY SELECT COLOR #0. (^\^H0) THAT DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE, BECAUSE THAT COMMAND RESETS THE SCREEN TO WHITE ON BLACK. INSTEAD USE ^\^F (TURN OF HIGHLIGHTING (SHOULD NOW BE THOUGHT OF AS RESET SCREEN COLORS)). ^\^F WILL CHANGE THE COLORS BACK TO THE DEFAULTS SELECTED BY THE USER. THIS WILL MAKE THE MESSAGES LOOK MUCH BETTER. (GO BACK AND LOOK AT SOME OF THE OLD COLORIZED MESSAGES AND YOU'LL GET THE IDEA.) C- - - P.S. HEY UBIK, GO TO THE MAIN MENU AND SELECT Z AND READ THE OBFUSCATE BULLETINS! Message # 329. Reply to #327 Date: 06/06/91. Time: 01:37:04. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ubik Subj : Disorientation RECEIVED But you might want to hear the answer to the question you never asked. And besides, that one will not fall for I, either. So why wear the "y" where? +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- -minor confusion Message # 330. Reply to #319 Date: 06/06/91. Time: 08:36:56. Read 16 Times. From : Racer X To : HACK MAN Subj : AN ANNOUNCEMENT RECEIVED It's too late, but I vote yes. I was about to recommend it and I noticed that with the rennovations there was a new Obfuscate. I've noticed that there's a number of new users here, so it's about time to add a few new Obfuscates. We have one and I think we should add at least one but not more than 1.999 more. I nominate John to be the whole one. Someone else should decide who gets the leftovers. Racer > IN THERE AND DELETE THAT TOO. C- - - Message # 344. Date: 06/09/91. Time: 05:05:01. Read 24 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : The Obfuscate's National Bank PERMIFIED Current holdings are: 811,226,105,251 obfucents. Comments : PROMOTE ME=9001 Message # 345. Reply to #340 Date: 06/09/91. Time: 06:54:12. Read 15 Times. From : Racer X To : HACK MAN Subj : COLOR CHANGING RECEIVED I can't tell if mine's working. Before I quit calling a while back, I was doing this: ^\^h1^\^h34Racer X/WFM^\^h0 --==^\^h1^\^h34^\^h5OBFUSCATE^\^h0==-- Then I read something about the restore default colour (^\^h0) not working. Does mine look OK? Racer >< Message # 491. Date: 10/22/91. Time: 20:34:30. Read 22 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : I'll Give It A Try, TMM RECEIVED If everyone is nice to each other, then no one will be mean to each other. This will mean that mean people should be nice, or nice people should be mean until there are no mean people, thus everyone would be nice to each other. However, if nice people become mean, then there would be no nice people, and that would leave nobody, and niceness would be forgotten. Which may be nice, but I would rather think it would be nicer if everyone would be nice to one another. +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- --==restricted to sub-ops; TMM, how'd I do?==-- Message # 492. Reply to #489 Date: 10/22/91. Time: 21:37:22. Read 22 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Racer X Subj : Gizmo RECEIVED Well, your proposal does have merit. But I think you're assuming too much. Gizmo and Mojo are both liars, and it would not be beneath Gizmo to accept Obfuscate status if but to find one more venue to harass us. However, if we stir up some real obfuscation around here, this would not be so bothersome. Gizmo is also acting pretty much like a jerk lately, and he would divulge the obfuscatronix in no time. Besides, being an obfuscate is like being a Supreme Court Justice...it's for life. Now, I'm sure AFG could take care of that. Also, HM related to me and TMM how Gizmo got the codes. It was not as if he gave Endwormo permission, but Gizmo used the Vector computer at the back of the garage, and HM assumed Gizmo was using it to log onto the board. Instead, Gizmo hit "dir", and with the help of Skurkey, began copying the messages. It was HM who realized what was going on, and who stopped them. All in all, though, I think he should obfuscate before we make him an obfuscate. It would also help if he would be himself and stop being such a jerk. We also shouldn't be bothered with what others think. We aren't tightasses, and it's unfortunate that Gizmo has convinced Skurkey otherwise. +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 493. Date: 10/22/91. Time: 21:44:17. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : For The Record El Diablo, a user we love to hate, has posted three admirably obfuscated messages on the Tavern (12850, 12851 and 12853). +++Gravebuster --==I'm not nominating him yet, but I wanted to bring this to everyone's attention==-- Message # 494. Reply to #489 Date: 10/22/91. Time: 23:00:54. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Racer X Subj : Gizmo RECEIVED I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT THAT SUGGESTION HAS A LITTLE PANACHE. BUT DO YOU THINK IT WOULD REALLY WORK? Message # 495. Reply to #493 Date: 10/22/91. Time: 23:03:21. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : For The Record RECEIVED WELL I KINDA LIKE EL DIABLO MYSELF. ALTHOUGH HE DOES SEEM TO BE IN SUCKING UP MODE. HOWEVER DOES THAT REALLY MATTER? ISN'T SUCKING UP A FORM OF OBFUSCATION ANYWAY? GOOD QUESTION. ANYWAY, HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN COOL TO ME. AND HE DOES SEEM TO HAVE A GERM OF SOMETHING THERE. HOWEVER I ALSO HAVE TO AGREE WITH MUSIC MAN (AND MOJO EVEN IF I DON'T WANT TO) WHEN THEY SAY THAT WE HAVE GROWN LAZY. WE JUST AREN'T TRYING ANYMORE. MAYBE TMM CAN LEND US A SPARK OF INSPIRATION WHILE HE'S HERE. C- - - Message # 496. Date: 10/23/91. Time: 01:33:38. Read 20 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : all obfuscates and you Subj : DOINK On the subject of Gizmo/Ender, I think it is a really spiffy (and completel worth trying once) idea, that Racer X had (at one time in his mind(now shared with us obfuscates(here in the temple)) or was it just something he typed?). I also think (I know it's a rare thing (however this is a good time), but I have to do it sometimes (and as I said this is a good time)) that Skurkey has turned out (turned in? (turned up (turned semi-leftishly north))) to be a completely immature bitch. She just complains about everything we do, and defends Gizmo at ever chance she gets. I grow very tired (and sick (not the sick like a cold but the sick like that in "sick and tired")) of reading here accusations about us OBFUSCATEs. I feel (alot of things) that she is just defending Gizmo and that she is jealous. El Diablo has, in fact, been cool to me at all times. I would have no qualms with him as an OBFUSCATE. Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym p.s. DOPINK Message # 497. Date: 10/23/91. Time: 13:03:05. Read 23 Times. From : Tasslehoff Burfoot To : ALL Subj : Proposals Don't you hate it when you spell a word wrong in the "Subject" field? In reguards to Gizmo and El Diablo becoming Obfuscates: I think that Gizmo has what it takes to be an Obfuscate, however, I do think he is a bit inmature. He used to try too hard to become one, and as we all gnow, the less effort and the more natural you behave, the sooner you'll become one. I'm not too sure about Gizmo becoming an Obfuscate, at least any time soon. El Diablo appears to be alright, but once again, he too, tries to hard to be strange, although he's never mentioned wanting to become an Obfuscate. In a way, that can be considered a plus. My biggest gripe with him would have to be his language/temper. He seems to jump to "violent" conclusions a little too fast. If he's joking about it, then fine, but I've seen no indication. As far as his language goes, he enjoys harassing people with explicatives, and I usually find myself deleting these messages on my subs. In conclusion.... Gizmo: Yes, he can become an Obfuscate, but not yet. El Diablo: If everyone else agrees, fine, but I have a neutral view of him. >The Tazz< --==Obfuscate==-- Message # 498. Reply to #497 Date: 10/23/91. Time: 23:06:27. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Tasslehoff Burfoot Subj : Proposals RECEIVED Then I forward to all the obfuscates a nomination for El Diablo to be an obfuscate. On the issue of brown-nosing; although it is obvious that he is trying to be an obfuscate, he is not begging or imploring us. Knowing his nature, I really don't think being an "obfuscate" is that important of a goal to him; my guess is that he just wants to see if he can be one. On the issue of temper and language; if temper were an obstacle, then I and ML would have problems, because we both get hot under the collar more easily than either of us wants to admit. If language was an issue, then ML and RX would have problems. In other words, although these traits tend to "put off" normal relations, they have not in the past prevented anyone from becoming an obfuscate. I think the key to being an obfuscate is that one shows a knack at obfuscation, preferably in his own way. I think this should be the primary issue, and unless the secondary issues are overwhelming, then I feel a person who obfuscates well without any real instruction or prompting should be given obfuscate status. Without his gnowledge, of course. We all love surprises... +++Gravebuster Message # 500. Reply to #497 Date: 10/23/91. Time: 23:17:32. Read 24 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Tasslehoff Burfoot Subj : Proposals RECEIVED I also vote against Gizmo becoming an obfuscate at this point in time until either my previous arguments are answered reasonably or until Gizmo shows that he can obfuscate, and then we can rehash the secondary issues over again. +++Gravebuster #500. Message # 501. Date: 10/24/91. Time: 00:46:47. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : As I Sit Here As I sit here on my wooden chair, staring at a screen, typing on a keyboard, I ponder just how the wooden chair, the screen, the keyboard and me relate to each other, and whether any of this has any significance to the operation of the cosmos. But since the cosmos does not signify how I, the chair, the screen or the keyboard relates to its operation, I ponder whether I have an effect on its operation. Then I ponder whether I should ponder these things, or should I instead sit here on my wooden chair, stare at a screen and type on a keyboard. That may be the key; I'm bored... +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Comments : WAY!=23 Message # 502. Reply to #500 Date: 10/24/91. Time: 14:10:48. Read 24 Times. From : Racer X To : Gravebuster Subj : Proposals RECEIVED PERMIFIED I seem to be the only one that sees the problems or potential problems with the situation. Most of you seem to be of the opinion that one user has already been turned off of Obfuscates because of this. What makes you think there won't be more? What makes you think that the Xenononsense crowd won't make allegations against us somewhere that our side won't be heard? This whole thing could blow up in our faces. You may be missing my point. If Gizmo is offered Obfuscate status and accepts it, Xenogenesis will be divided and even easier to attack. If they continue to try to wreck the Obfuscates all the evidence will show that we tried to be open and tolerant. If he is offered Obfuscate status and rejects it, it won't matter. Xenogenesis will be wrecked soon enough anyway and it'll still look like we did our best to be open and tolerant. If we don't offer him Obfuscate status we lose all those PR points as well as a great opportunity to destroy Xenogenesis and, more importantly, OBFUSCATE. It has been said that the best way to be an Obfuscate is to not try so hard. Well, he quit trying what more reason do we need? Of course he'll give away the Obfuscatronix! That's the beauty of it. As far as I can tell the only way to lose Obfuscate access is to give away the secrets of Obfuscation. He'll give away the Obfuscatronix and as soon as someone uses them we can blame him (we won't even need proof because he's done it before) and change the system. If for some bizarre reason he doesn't give them away, no loss there. Everyone else seemed intent on making him an Obfuscate before. We could use another couple of Obfuscates anyway. If he gives them away and no one uses them we won't even gnow, so there's no loss there either. The whole issue could be avoided by not really giving him the 'real' Obfuscatronix, but something that would only work for him and non-Obfuscates. A routine could even be put in that automatically strips his access if a non- Obfuscate uses the 'Obfuscatronix'. Then the whole thing could be taken out and someone will end up looking like a fool and it won't be you or me. However, to answer HACK MAN's question, I think it will work because he really can't accept the offer without looking like a fool. He could do it and say that he'll get Xenogenesis the codes but if that's been covered in advance... I've rambled on long enough, but there's more to be said about this. I think this would be great fun if the proper precautions are taken. Racer >< Message # 503. Reply to #502 Date: 10/24/91. Time: 15:07:39. Read 17 Times. From : Tasslehoff Burfoot To : Racer X Subj : Proposals RECEIVED After hearing Racer's last argument, I second it. >The Tazz< Message # 505. Reply to #502 Date: 10/24/91. Time: 19:10:52. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Racer X Subj : Proposals RECEIVED The best way to be an obfuscate is to obfuscate. All other issues are secondary. As for the rest of what you say, let me get this straight... You are afraid of the damage Xenogenesis could do by spreading rumors about how bad obfuscates are? A Xenogenesis which, by your own admission, will crumble of its own accord? I'm not sure I care about other users who would take advice from the Nexus crowd. After reviewing your post, it seems that you, rather than being worried about what Xerox-enemas can do, want to pull the most elaborate and cruel hoax on a user that I have ever heard about. I don't think we should carry Gizmo-bashing that far. And I object to Gizmo being an obfuscate primarily on the grounds that he hasn't obfuscated, and secondarily on the grounds that right now he is a jerk and a liar. The only potential, it seems, in what you have said is the pontential to be outright mean to Gizmo. +++Gravebuster Message # 506. Reply to #505 Date: 10/24/91. Time: 21:04:32. Read 19 Times. From : Tasslehoff Burfoot To : Gravebuster Subj : Proposals RECEIVED If I remember correctly, Gaviscon proposed that the next Obfuscate would be Gizmo, so I do believe that he would have voted for him, undoubtedly. I'm not sure in which message he said it, or if he just mentioned it to me in person, but I do remember him saying (or prophesizing?) that Giz would become the next in line for Obfuscate status. If anyone can find evidence of Gav saying this, then I do believe we shall also have his vote in the matter. >The Tazz< Message # 507. Reply to #505 Date: 10/26/91. Time: 02:38:02. Read 16 Times. From : Racer X To : Gravebuster Subj : Proposals RECEIVED Yeah. SO WHAT?!?! Racer >< Message # 508. Reply to #506 Date: 10/26/91. Time: 02:38:53. Read 17 Times. From : Racer X To : Tasslehoff Burfoot Subj : Proposals RECEIVED Great then. If that's what Gav wants then we should do it. Maybe the fire was a sign. Gizmo for Obfuscate! Racer >< Message # 509. Date: 10/26/91. Time: 02:40:42. Read 16 Times. From : Racer X To : Dr. Pepper Subj : Ooops! Don't think that I'm making a joke about Gav's misfortune. I really am sorry to hear the bad news. BUT, what if it is a sign from above that Gizmo should be made an Obfuscate? Shouldn't we follow the sign? We've already got Skurkey mad at us. Do we need to make any more enemies? Gizmo for Obfuscate! Racer >< Message # 510. Reply to #507 Date: 10/27/91. Time: 11:00:03. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Racer X Subj : Proposals RECEIVED My answer is still "no!". Besides, your proposal hinges on "offering" Gizmo obfuscate status, and users aren't "offered" obfuscate status. They simply log on one day and find out that they're obfuscates. No offer is made to them. +++Gravebuster #510. Message # 511. Reply to #509 Date: 10/27/91. Time: 11:01:59. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Racer X Subj : Ooops! RECEIVED Usually, fire is an ill omen, and the fire happened to one of the "yes" votes... +++Gravebuster --==stop dabbling in stuff you don't believe in==-- Message # 513. Date: 10/27/91. Time: 11:07:02. Read 20 Times. From : Gravebuster To : All The Obfuscates Subj : Tazz Is Disqualified Whoever is pretending to be Tazz should admit that he is not the real Tazz and to accordingly withdraw his vote. Messages 503 and 506, purportedly by Tazz, are short posts that make use of the autoreply feature. This type of posting is antithetical to Tazz's adamant habit of reading all the posts and posting his own reply in an original post. Only the REAL Tasselhoff Burfoot should be allowed to influence this vote! +++Gravebuster Message # 514. Reply to #506 Date: 10/28/91. Time: 23:16:56. Read 18 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : Tasslehoff Burfoot Subj : Proposals RECEIVED I remember him saying that at least twice... Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym Message # 515. Reply to #87 Date: 10/28/91. Time: 23:28:27. Read 18 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Wow! RECEIVED I think everything is like bugs too, but in a slightly different way. Everything is like bugs bunny! Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym Message # 516. Reply to #97 Date: 10/28/91. Time: 23:32:17. Read 16 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : HACK MAN Subj : SNARGLEDEGOP RECEIVED A: YES VERy MUCH SO. I love to introduce them to the street. B: GREEN of course... they last longer. C: I think that they should be abolished!!! besides someone already paid taxes on the stuff. In fact I think all taxes on things I buy and things I do should be abolished because at some point taxes were already paid for that thing. there should be a limit of one tax charged per item. Message # 517. Reply to #102 Date: 10/28/91. Time: 23:35:34. Read 16 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : HACK MAN Subj : MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. RECEIVED A: YES B: IT SUCKS C: YAW ON D: YES E: !!!!! F: DOINK! G: ^ ^ ^ _ Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym Message # 518. Reply to #111 Date: 10/28/91. Time: 23:43:02. Read 19 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : New Obfuscates/Dillusionists RECEIVED It's really funny how all the older obfuscates all seemed to think peggy was a prime suspect for being an obfuscate... I think it's quite funny actually... maybe it's because I have always been "anti-peggy" because she was always/is always disrespectful of me. Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym Message # 519. Reply to #518 Date: 10/29/91. Time: 20:25:49. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Mynk Lynx Subj : New Obfuscates/Dillusionists RECEIVED It must be your overwhelming charm. I can't possibly imagine what else about you could inspire such complete disrespect... +++Gravebuster --==...==-- Message # 520. Reply to #501 Date: 10/30/91. Time: 18:52:09. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : As I Sit Here RECEIVED THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE AND THE UNIVERSE. IN THE UNIVERSE EVERYTHING IS RELATIVE, BUT PEOPLE CAN'T RELATE TO ANYTHING. C- - - #520. Message # 522. Reply to #513 Date: 10/30/91. Time: 18:58:26. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Tazz Is Disqualified RECEIVED HOW DO WE GNOW THAT ANY OF US ARE REAL? C- - - Message # 523. Reply to #502 Date: 10/30/91. Time: 19:00:24. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Racer X Subj : Proposals RECEIVED HMM. INTERESTING. BUT, I DON'T THINK ENDER HAS ACTUALLY SAID (AT LEAST NOT RECENTLY) THAT HE WANTS TO BE AN OBFUSCATE. ANYWAY, WHO SAID THAT WE WERE OUT TO DESTROY XENOGENESIS? I'D SOONER WALK A MILE TO STEP ON AN ANT. WELL, HMM, DOINK. C- - - Message # 524. Reply to #522 Date: 10/31/91. Time: 00:40:25. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Tazz Is Disqualified RECEIVED Because we are all figments of your imagination! +++Gravebuster --==and we shall accept no imitations!==-- Message # 525. Reply to #197 Date: 11/02/91. Time: 04:03:42. Read 23 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : hmm RECEIVED This is in reply to your message re: hmm, smegma. :ci Message # 526. Date: 11/02/91. Time: 04:05:57. Read 17 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : all Subj : all The last message I posted here was in the last decade. 12/31/89 03:44:19 or so. :ci Message # 528. Date: 11/02/91. Time: 04:30:59. Read 24 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : mall Subj : smubject It is not in my nature, or my artifice, to post multitudinous messages on a singular sub-board during the self-same logon period, however, mayhap that is the raison d'etre for my hereunto doing such, noncontrariwise. shlabeddy :ci Will please respond to this message. Who knows, I may receive it sometime this year. Message # 529. Reply to #528 Date: 11/02/91. Time: 09:32:39. Read 24 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Cleric Ilsaram Subj : smubject RECEIVED Why should respond to that message? And why would you want him to? After all, he goes around using a silly password like . +++Gravebuster Message # 531. Date: 11/02/91. Time: 09:48:43. Read 22 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Cleric Ilsaram Subj : Congratulations RECEIVED I must congratulate you on your apparent reappearance, although you appear regularly, or as the case may be irregularly, because there's nothing regular about you, but hey, at least you're punctual, in which case, if that's my meaning, then you are regular, on Friday nights, albeit to GM a Rolemaster game (which when everybody is here and we play (which isn't very often (of course, Tasselhoff Burfoot is the most culpable (but I'm not any saint on that sin))). We do not devote as much attention (something which, if you don't pay, you pay too much (something also of which we are in short supply of on Friday nights (which maybe because Friday nights are the time we all let our hair down (which reminds us that we need to shampoo more often), a phrase that shouldn't be taken literally), probably because it's the end of the work week for most of us and we want to let our aggressions out through silliness (but we really should divert all that aggression into our characters and the game)) as that adventure deserves (especially in light of the fact that you come all the way down from the San Fernando Valley (why would anybody want to live in the San Fernando Valley (more nightclubs?); but then again, why would anybody want to live here (more ennui?) and leave your girlfriend and interests to come to lead a Rolemaster game (which you are leading quite well, but we've been pretty rotten (which is the whole point of this post))). In other words, irregular as you are, it's apparent that you regularly show up on Friday nights and show up the rest of us regular irregulars. And congratulations on your apparent reappearance. +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 532. Reply to #528 Date: 11/02/91. Time: 16:58:02. Read 20 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : Cleric Ilsaram Subj : smubject RECEIVED Even if it was a Obfuscatronix code, I will respond out of respect for a fellow Obfuscate. Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym p.s. Maybe if enough of us respond he will be forced by some cosmic responce buffer overflow goddess to call back and recieve them or die a horrible death at the mercy of several extremely voluptuous women who will simple ignore him to death... hmmmmm... Comments : HAHAHA=100 Message # 533. Reply to #523 Date: 11/04/91. Time: 18:50:37. Read 19 Times. From : Ubik To : HACK MAN Subj : Proposals RECEIVED Well,,, after reading the whole discussion I've come to no firm conclusions but,,,, you get my two cents worth anyway! Various thoughts on the various subjects. 1. I dont give a rip about harrasing Xenogenisis. Wars are for Priests, polititians, and other insects. 2. Gizmo bashing is not a worthy motive. 3. I think Gravie is wrong on one point (one only). It seems to me that Gizender has frequently been dazed, confused, downright wierd, and obviously obfuscated on many occasions. The point isn't can he obfuscate, its can he learn to do it without pissing people off? 4. I agree with Tazz that ElD seems explosivly hostile sometimes. He often relies on loud obcinity when he cant come up with rational argument. Not wrong, just low class. My votes: Both neutral (I'll go along with whatever you all decide. I dont get out enough, and dont have enough information to make learned choices.) Ubik Message # 534. Reply to #528 Date: 11/04/91. Time: 18:51:44. Read 16 Times. From : Ubik To : Cleric Ilsaram Subj : smubject RECEIVED Yep, they still work. Ubik Message # 535. Reply to #533 Date: 11/05/91. Time: 01:07:00. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ubik Subj : Proposals RECEIVED "Ah, an American voter, I see. Welcome to the great American way of doing things. We make the choices and you give us the votes. And of course, we let you decide who is running this nation; in fact, we confirm it for you just to make sure that your decision is the decision of this nation. Of course, you realize that this nation isn't just you, so you don't mind if someone you don't agree with runs the nation; that's democracy. Oh, never mind that we chose who runs this nation for you; we did consult you, even though it was after the fact. But then again, what are facts, but what we tell you? And what's a democracy, but what we choose? Do you think that we would allow our nation to be actually run by the whims of the voters? Why, we would have to educate them or something!" +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE...REALLY OBFUSCATED THIS TIME==-- --==SAD THING, IT'S TRUE, TOO...==-- Message # 536. Reply to #535 Date: 01/04/80. Time: 14:32:11. Read 14 Times. From : Ubik To : Gravebuster Subj : Proposals RECEIVED Educate? why of course not. The Education President wouldnt here of it. He needs workers, not a bunch of troublesome thinkers. __ |__|< S < S / \ ============ | | | * UBIK * | |__________| |safeifused| |asdirected| ------------ Message # 537. Reply to #533 Date: 11/10/91. Time: 00:03:02. Read 14 Times. From : Racer X To : Ubik Subj : Proposals RECEIVED Gizmo for Obfuscate! Racer >< Comments : NO WAY!=100 Message # 538. Reply to #537 Date: 11/11/91. Time: 04:50:28. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Racer X Subj : Proposals RECEIVED Assassinate Gizmo! +++Gravebuster --==AFG==-- Message # 539. Date: 11/14/91. Time: 18:28:00. Read 17 Times. From : Ubik To : all Subj : aniversary Hey, I just noticed its one year since my first call here. I seldom look at the stats and just accidently noticed it. Far out. How time do fly __ |__|< S < S / \ ============ | | | * UBIK * | |__________| |safeifused| |asdirected| ------------ Message # 540. Reply to #539 Date: 11/14/91. Time: 20:54:05. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Ubik Subj : aniversary RECEIVED WELL, YOU REALIZE OF COURSE, IT'S ALL ONE BIG THING. C- - - Comments : HAHAHA=100 #540. Message # 541. Reply to #539 Date: 11/17/91. Time: 21:15:27. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ubik Subj : aniversary RECEIVED I congratulationalify you! +++Gravebuster Message # 542. Date: 11/20/91. Time: 09:58:21. Read 15 Times. From : Inkydo To : You Subj : False Entry HIGH! How the hell are you? (retorical) its me, Inkydoo (Enkidu) Hope you dont mind me coming in here. I got this thing for temples. Well, I suppose I should leave you all with something profound. How about.. Try not to be such a dumb shit all the time. That one always seemed to help me. Well whadaya want for nothin? A rubber biscuit? -s- - -S- - -- inkydoo -- -s- s | | | |===================================== | |===================================== |--| \__ |\_\ \|\_\ \|\_\ \|\_\ \|_| Comments : HAHAHA=100 Message # 543. Date: 11/20/91. Time: 10:00:02. Read 16 Times. From : Inkydo To : All Subj : Stories in the Temple Let me tell you all a story. I will tell you of the great Siberian shaman Morgon Kara. And I will tell you, of my drum. Have you seen my drum? It is big and round like the moon, But it has only one side. Why does your drum have only one side, You might well ask? It is because of what Morgon Kara did. I will tell you. It was very long ago. Our race is old you know, Very, very, old. It was before we were farm people, And before we were horse people, And even before we were wagon people, When we lived in tents and moved with the moons Morgon Kera made strong medicine He healed many people So many in fact that no one was dying This greatly disturbed a rather nasty minor diety He hadnt gotten hold of a soul for a hell of a long time. In fact, He must have one, right now ! He reached forth his hand and tore out the soul of a girl A girl of Morgon Kara's tribe,,, She fell to the ground, Her friends carried her to Morgon Kera He lay her on his bed of purple vetch. Burned ceder dust at her feet, and soft wood musk at her head. And taking his drum he began the beat. And on the beat of his drum, Rose up into the air. Turning and climbing he drummed up into the clouds And saw there before him the disturbed demigod holding tight to a bottle, the lost soul inside, his thumb tight, on the hole, Quick as a wink Morgon Kara Turned into A fly He flew straight to the gods head and bit out a chunk right between the eyes YYYYEEEESSSSHHHH!!! the god jumped! And with both hands he slapped. And quick as a wink Morgon Kara Snatched out the soul And went spinning back down On the beat of his drum The god jumped up With rage in his voice And cast down a thunder bolt (as gods are known to do) And it slashed by Morgon Kara So very very close That it took his drum Clean in half And that is why To this very day That the shamans drum Has only one side HO. -s- - -S- - -- inkydoo -- -s- s | | | |===================================== | |===================================== |--| \__ |\_\ \|\_\ \|\_\ \|\_\ \|_| Message # 544. Reply to #538 Date: 11/21/91. Time: 11:49:58. Read 17 Times. From : Racer X To : Gravebuster Subj : Proposals RECEIVED Gizmo for Obfuscate! Racer >< Comments : NO WAY!=100 Message # 545. Date: 11/22/91. Time: 08:45:56. Read 16 Times. From : Racer X To : Inkydoo Subj : ackackackackackackackackackackackackack Gizmo for Obfuscate! Racer >< Comments : NO WAY!=100 Message # 546. Reply to #544 Date: 11/23/91. Time: 17:23:45. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Racer X Subj : Proposals RECEIVED Racer X for Gizmo! +++Gravebuster --==...==-- Message # 547. Date: 11/24/91. Time: 23:41:35. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Attention, Please, Or If You Don't Have Any, Pocket Lint Will Do If you are reading this message, I suggest that you sit back, and relax, read a good book, wiggle your toes and have happy thoughts. Unless, of course, you are not reading this message, in which case you are probably sitting back, relaxing, reading a good book, wiggling your toes and having happy thoughts. But if I may interrupt you (and I'm sorry to interrupt your happy train of thought), I should remind you that you are neglecting to read this message. And you really should read this message. So, now that I have obligated you to read this message, you may proceed to do as I suggested. +++Gravebuster Message # 548. Reply to #547 Date: 11/25/91. Time: 02:15:16. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Attention, Please, Or If You Don't Have Any, Pocket Lint Will Do RECEIVED THANK YOU. I HAD FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE PURE PLEASURE OF TOE WIGGLING UNTIL YOU HAD REMINDED ME. C- - - Message # 549. Date: 12/08/91. Time: 02:09:44. Read 19 Times. From : Racer X To : aLL Subj : Ack! PERMIFIED By the way, I resign as an Obfuscate too. Gizmo for Obfuscate! Racer >< -Tick ... tick ... Message # 550. Date: 12/08/91. Time: 16:20:44. Read 21 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Electric Shaver Price Comparison This week, J.C. Penney's advertises Norelco's 875RX rechargeable shaver for $89.95, a good price! Sears lists the same Norelco 875RX rechargeable shaver at $84.95, another good price! Target offers the Norelco 875RX rechargeable shaver for $79.95, a great value! Kmart, this week, offers the Norelco 875RX rechargeable shaver for $59.97, an excellent value! But right here, at the Temple of Dillusion, we don't charge anything for the Norelco 875RX rechargeable shaver, because we don't even sell them here! What a value! Think of all the money you can save shopping around here! +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- #550. Message # 551. Date: 12/19/91. Time: 23:40:52. Read 20 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Directions To The Garage Well, now let's see, you just continue down this street here til you reach the corner where there used to be a gas station, and I can't reckon what's there now, but you make a right at that corner, and you go all the way down that road until you come to a big pink motel, it's big, and it's the only pink one there, unless they painted it again, and right near that motel is an intersection, and you turn left, and then you continue through all the farms and stuff, except they got plowed down recently and I can't for the life of me remember what type of big project they put in its place other than its big, gots lots of buildings and lots of green lawns, and you just keep going until you get to the stop sign that was knocked down during the last Santa Anas. Or maybe some punk kids pulled it out of the ground by tying it to their pickup. Now what was I saying? Oh yeah, well, you go straight, or is it a left? Blast, you just go the way that looks right to you, past the row of eucalyptus trees that got bulldozed this summer, down the street that's closed for road construction, what? How are you supposed to do that? That ain't my problem! Now just listen, once you get passed the Eat Rite Restaurant that got turned into an Assemblies Of God church and now who gnows what it is now, you go over the bridge over the 101, go into Mission Oaks, and you can find your way to the Garage from there. Got it? +++Gravebuster Message # 552. Reply to #551 Date: 12/23/91. Time: 21:38:01. Read 14 Times. From : Ubik To : Gravebuster Subj : Directions To The Garage RECEIVED Thanks for the help. Ubik glad we aren't paying for this stuff. Message # 553. Date: 12/23/91. Time: 23:15:01. Read 16 Times. From : Lord Cirdan To : Anyone? Anyone? Subj : Howdy, who ate all the chocolate? "Hmm," Lord Cirdan mused. Just thought I'd make a rather random appearance. Who are these Xenodudes I keep hearing being mentioned? Please forgive me, I only have time to catch up on this particular board. Some kind of anti-obfuscates? I don't get it. If the obfuscates are obfuscates, then how can someone be an anti-obfuscate, if they don't gnow what they are anti-ing? If they think they gnow, then they gnow too much. Just make them think we are something else. Then when they think that, make them think we are actually something quite different. Repeat. Of course, only do this if it entertains you. Anyway, it seems pointless to me to make Gizmo an obfuscate if someone, namely the bewildering Gravebuster, disagrees. I forgot if there were any rules or anything, but I think it should be unanimous. Anyway, as I have said before, (in fact, I say "Anyway" lots, see, it appears at least twice, although I have said "the" before even more times, but I would be willing to bet, not my life but maybe something of monetary value, that I say it (it being "Anyway" (I'm sure you caught that, but just in case)) more times than "The") maybe a synopsis of the ensuing conflict could be posted, or if there is no conflict, maybe we should come up with one, something really big, with backstabbing and insider trading and commentary from Dan Rather. :::Lord Cirdan Message # 554 -- Private. Message # 556. Reply to #553 Date: 12/24/91. Time: 10:38:37. Read 27 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Lord Cirdan Subj : Howdy, who ate all the chocolate? RECEIVED I ate all the chocolate. I got the pimples to prove it, too! Xenogenesis fancy themselves as the protectors of bink!, the slayers of DOINK!, the victors over Obfuscates and the saviors of the world. There's only two of them, unless you count Non-Existance (sic), a fictional leader of this fictional underground national movement. Although your plan of obfuscating their attack would have worked in the past, the conflict has basically died down because we confronted them with their own obnoxious behavior. I feel their self-esteem couldn't take that assault. Gizmo is not going to be an obfuscate until he at leasts obfuscates, as far as I'm concerned. I don't think that's asking too much. A little less "attitude" on his part would go a long way, also. Racer X wants to offer Gizmo "obfuscate" status for several reasons. First, it would place Gizmo in a dilemma--if he accepts, he goes against Xenogenesis, and if he refuses, he goes against his own ambitions. Second, if Gizmo does accept, he would not be given real obfuscatronix, but false obfuscatronix, and access to this subboard, and that's it. This test is to see if he simply accepted "obfuscate" status to discover the codes and broadcast them out again. I object to RX's plan because (1) Gizmo does not obfuscate, (2) you don't offer someone obfuscate status, HM just makes them an obfuscate, so how could he reject or accept something HM already made him?, (3) I don't think obfuscate status should be given such as to humiliate a user. Besides, now the whole issue is now moot; Gizmo doesn't care about obfuscates, let alone the Retreat, anymore. He only wanted the obfuscatronix because he thought they were some neat programming language with which you can make online games, and he was disappointed when he found out otherwise. Besides, Gizmo, Mojo and company are currently not wanted around the Garage anymore because Gizmo keeps on messing with the bulletin board and he recently stole a 3 1/2" disk with the bulletin board program on it. That sums up the whole debate from my viewpoint. +++Gravebuster Message # 557. Reply to #553 Date: 12/30/91. Time: 04:29:14. Read 22 Times. From : Racer X To : Lord Cirdan Subj : Howdy, who ate all the chocolate? RECEIVED PERMIFIED Will YOU accept my resignation? I'm not a Xenodip and don't intend to be one. I just don't want to be an Obfuscate and no one else is willing to accept that. Thank you and have a nice day. Racer >< Message # 558. Date: 01/02/92. Time: 19:27:42. Read 21 Times. From : Ubik To : All Subj : didnt know I was gone did ya? January 1,1992 TheFuckinFutreAintIt! Dearest Friends,Obfuscates,Accociates,OnLookers,Snoopers, Posters-Antiposters,Readers-writers-critics,primates- Others, Buffons,Dweebs,and Dipshits. How the Hell are Ya! Thought I'd better drop a line and let ya know I havn't died or been arrestabducted. As you will notice by my improved form, I've been busy with business. The vacation may have been bad for me. I got crazy ideas. Mighta been the drugs, maybe the women, maybe it was Jimi playin Red House,I dunno. I decided to learn a whole bunch about publishing and book marketing. So I've been readin alot. Going to explore the business and maybe find a nitch. I did some applications to be a publishers reader, and book indexer, and I'm trying to get into a local bookstore to learn their version of retail sales. Hot tips appreciated. Oh, yeah, took a side job working for some monks as a medical jack of all trades. Working in a quiet peacefull monkerary might be very cool. We shall see. Im not going to be able to keep up with the whole board, so Im skipping the Tavern and Soap Box for awhile, but I'll try to keep up on the others. So, how ya been? How was the party? Las Vegas was your typical "wretched den of scum and villany" where people display how deeply they can be mass hypnotized by poring their money into machines that make noises and flash lights. The more the machines spit it back, the longer they stay till they get that last nickel and quarter down. Truley amazing. A national wonder. Glad I saw it once. The only comendable and saving quality of the place is the easily available sex. (No I didn't (still the MO)) All for now, back to work. Sincerely, UBIK Ubik Polytechnical Group Ventura California. Message # 559. Reply to #558 Date: 01/03/92. Time: 11:13:14. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Ubik Subj : didnt know I was gone did ya? RECEIVED YOU MEAN YOU ARE A MONK FLUNKEY? DOES THAT MAKE YOU A MONKEY? C- - - Message # 560. Reply to #558 Date: 01/05/92. Time: 12:57:45. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ubik Subj : didnt know I was gone did ya? RECEIVED So you didn't lose your wages in Las Vegas, but instead sequestered yourself in a seminary, and booked your future in the future of books? Well, in the future, when you sequester yourself in a seminary, forget about Las Vegas and read a book. Okay? +++Gravebuster #560. Message # 561. Reply to #559 Date: 01/08/92. Time: 16:59:22. Read 18 Times. From : Ubik To : HACK MAN Subj : didnt know I was gone did ya? RECEIVED Yeah, but I'm a damn good one! Ubik Comments : HAHAHA=100 Message # 562. Reply to #560 Date: 01/08/92. Time: 17:00:10. Read 18 Times. From : Ubik To : Gravebuster Subj : didnt know I was gone did ya? RECEIVED Actualy, thats what I did in Las V. - read a book. It was Quiet days in Clincky" by Henry Miller. Also read some discussions on Millers work, and some biographical stuff. Isnt that what everyone does in L.V.? Ubik Message # 563. Reply to #562 Date: 01/08/92. Time: 22:46:40. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ubik Subj : didnt know I was gone did ya? RECEIVED So you mulled Miller's book while milling about Las Vegas, booking seminaries and attending seminars on books, flunking monks and monkeying flunks, and where's a watch when you need one? +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 564. Date: 01/10/92. Time: 21:19:20. Read 24 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Letter Of Recommendation We at Obfuscatronix would like to commend for his exceptional performance and most highly valued advice. After much discussion, interaction, engagement and detailed endeavors, we are deeply impress with 's integrity, skill and thoughtfulness. He employed unique and innovative talents to accomplish the task efficiently in a minimal amount of time, contributing greatly to the teamwork and the prestige of our corporation. is definitely an asset in any organization. Now if we can only figure out what did... +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 566. Reply to #489 Date: 01/12/92. Time: 17:52:32. Read 21 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Racer X Subj : Gizmo RECEIVED HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Message # 567. Reply to #491 Date: 01/12/92. Time: 17:54:05. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : I'll Give It A Try, TMM RECEIVED Fine. Message # 568. Reply to #525 Date: 01/12/92. Time: 17:57:31. Read 18 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Cleric Ilsaram Subj : hmm RECEIVED Why, thank you! Message # 569. Reply to #529 Date: 01/12/92. Time: 17:59:11. Read 18 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : smubject RECEIVED How did you gnow my password??? Message # 570. Reply to #564 Date: 01/12/92. Time: 18:04:19. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Letter Of Recommendation RECEIVED Absolutely nothing, and I do it well! #570. Message # 571. Reply to #569 Date: 01/12/92. Time: 20:39:09. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : smubject RECEIVED That message doesn't talk about you or your password. It talks about me and my password!... +++Gravebuster Message # 572. Reply to #571 Date: 01/13/92. Time: 15:43:57. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : smubject RECEIVED No it talks about everybody and everybody's password....but, why? Message # 573. Date: 01/13/92. Time: 15:44:49. Read 16 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : whomever Subj : opening message I was sure taken off that obfuscate MIA list quickly! Message # 574. Reply to #572 Date: 01/13/92. Time: 19:28:23. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : smubject RECEIVED Well, "why" is a deep subject, and we should spend many hours discussing "why", and when we do we may inevitably come upon a because, although it may not be the because, but why should we discuss the because or a because if in fact we wanted to discuss the why, a subject I just subjected to an endless why... +++Gravebuster Message # 575. Reply to #574 Date: 01/13/92. Time: 23:10:40. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : smubject RECEIVED Who says a because must follow a why, there are other answers to why, and not all of them have a because in it, although some do, I don't know why (there's one of them), but it just happens that way, or some other way, but either way, it does happen, and all I'm left to do is question, why? Message # 576. Date: 01/13/92. Time: 23:12:52. Read 19 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : ALL Subj : Current Issues I would like to raise a few subject, comment on 'em, and soon bury them again: I would like to officially nominate NUMBER 2 to be an obfuscate. He has expressed interest, and I think he has a lot of obfuscate potential, even though he doesn't express it much. I personally like his means of obfuscation, and I think the title would encourage him to express obfuscation more often. I would like to encourage the other obfuscates to also nominate our fellow user and friend to join our "elite" organization. PLEASE RESPOND WITH A YEAH OR NAY !!!! re: Number 2 Next, I would like to nominate that Racer X be dissociated from obfuscate status and access. In my opinion, he doesn't fit into the program, he doesn't desire to, and he doesn't succeed in obfuscation. Most importantly, he doesn't even want to be one! Some might say that this in itself is a form of obfuscation, and that may be so, but it's not the form of obfuscation that we have traditionally aspired to create. I think it requires teamwork, and I am of the opinion that there is a big difference between obfuscation and disruption. If he wants out, by all means, let him out!!! It looks bad for us having a fellow obfuscate mock us like this!! I wish to encourage fellow obfuscates to ban Racer X from the temple, for he has fallen from grace. Do we make Racer X officially a NON-OBFUSCATE ?? PLEASE RESPOND WITH A YEAH OR NAY !!!! re: Racer X I would like to express that this in no way expressed my personal attitude towards Racer X, and I don't want him to take it as a personal insult. This is just business, obfuscate business, and I consider it important (Heck, SOMETHING has to be!!). The Music Man -=obfuscate=- Message # 577. Reply to #576 Date: 01/14/92. Time: 01:01:53. Read 18 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Current Issues RECEIVED Yeah. Re: Number Two. Yeah. Re: Racer X Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym p.s. or Q, and Q. Message # 579. Reply to #576 Date: 01/14/92. Time: 15:20:09. Read 23 Times. From : Racer X To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Current Issues RECEIVED Absolutely NOT on Number Two. Since I am still an Obfuscate and new admissions require a unanimous vote, Number Two cannot be an Obfuscate AS LONG AS I AM. TMM, if you could point out something even remotely worthwhile that Number Two has said ON THIS BOARD, please do. If the easiest way to become an Obfuscate is to make a point of socializing with all the others, I want even less to be an Obfuscate. Although there is no set time requirement, Number Two hasn't even been on this board for a year. Give him more time and some sort of display of talent at anything other than making it to the garage every Friday before you start getting so generous with such things. Racer >< Message # 580. Reply to #575 Date: 01/15/92. Time: 03:19:31. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : smubject RECEIVED But if you question why, then why ask why? +++Gravebuster --==...==-- #580. Message # 581. Reply to #579 Date: 01/15/92. Time: 03:21:59. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Racer X Subj : Current Issues RECEIVED Hey, you refused to post on this board! +++Gravebuster Message # 582. Date: 01/15/92. Time: 03:23:13. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Nominations and Un-Nominations Re: Number Two-Yeah. Re: Racer X-Nay. +++Gravebuster Message # 583. Reply to #580 Date: 01/15/92. Time: 12:03:22. Read 16 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : smubject RECEIVED I don't gnow, maybe I'll just have a Bud Dry... Message # 584. Date: 01/15/92. Time: 12:04:31. Read 18 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Racer X Subj : things RECEIVED #2 is more of an obfuscate in person, and I have seen his written expression of it in poetry he has written. As for the unanimous thing, did I vote for you? I'll have to check on that. Personally, I think that there are too many no-existents and semi-existents to make that feasable. Depending upon the votes, he may have to be given more time, but I'm starting to see a majority, and that's all I need to observe before I begin exploring the wonders of SYSOP options. Do you really not want to be an obfuscate? -TMM Message # 585. Reply to #581 Date: 01/15/92. Time: 15:33:53. Read 16 Times. From : Racer X To : Gravebuster Subj : Current Issues RECEIVED I did not. Besides, some things are far too important to ignore. Racer >< -Tick . . . tick . . . Message # 586. Reply to #584 Date: 01/15/92. Time: 15:35:56. Read 17 Times. From : Racer X To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : things RECEIVED If I must be an Obfuscate to protect you from yourselves, then it must be. Quite honestly, there seems something wrong with making someone an Obfuscate based on supposed off-line Obfuscation. Again quite honestly, if you wish to pursue this course, you will not only have a resigned Obfuscate but a resigned user. Try me. Racer >< -Tick . . . tick . . . Message # 587. Reply to #586 Date: 01/16/92. Time: 16:51:30. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Racer X Subj : things RECEIVED Isn't that a little childish, threatening to stop calling? That sounds like something I would do, and did, and it didn't work, because I still haven't gotten what I wanted, whatever that is. The point is that if you don't want to be an obfuscate, I don't think you should have to be. It's entirely up to you. I don't want you to stop calling, I'd just like to see a little cohesiveness on this board, if someone is an obfuscate, they should be one, if they don't want to be one, then they shouldn't be one. Why do I get the feeling that it's not obfuscation that is important to you, but the access and power that comes with it? As for Number 2, other people seem to see obfuscated posts by him, which is why they voted yes. If you want, I'll point them out to you, but quite honestly, I shoudn't have to! -TMM Message # 588. Reply to #562 Date: 01/16/92. Time: 21:47:01. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Ubik Subj : didnt know I was gone did ya? RECEIVED HEY, TELL US ABOUT HENRY MILLER ON THE LIBRARY. I'M INTERESTED. C- - - .S Message # 589. Reply to #576 Date: 01/16/92. Time: 21:55:47. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Current Issues RECEIVED I ALSO VOTE YES FOR NUMBER TWO. ALSO, I VOTE TO LET RACER-X DO WHATEVER THE HELL HE WANTS TO DO. I'M TIRED OF TRYING TO ACCOMMIDATE. HE MIGHT HAVE SOME AGES OLD MEANINGLESS PETTY VENDETTA AGAINST NUMBER TWO, BUT I DON'T, AND I DON'T SEE ANY REASON FOR IT. RACER X HAS BEEN UNABLE TO DEMONSTRATE ANY REASON FOR IT AND I CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT NUMBER TWO MUST HAVE STEPPED ON HIS RUBBER DUCKY ONCE WHEN THEY WERE 3 YEARS OLD. AS FOR ME, I LIKE NUMBER TWO I THINK HE'S COOL AND I CAN'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH HIM. I ALSO LIKE WHAT HE HAS DONE. THE FACT THAT RACER-X DOESN'T LIKE HIM FOR UNGNOWN REASONS WON'T COLOR MY JUDGEMENT. HERE ARE A FEW PETTY EXAMPLES THAT I CAN THINK OF OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD OF OBFUSCATORY TYPE THINGS THAT HE HAS DONE. HAVING THE GALL TO ASK TO BE SUB-OP OF THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH HAS TO COUNT FOR SOMETHING. HIS POETRY IS ALSO INTERESTING (AS TMM MENTIONED). THE WALT DISNEY TED TURNER STUFF SHOWS IMAGINATION. I GOT A PERSONAL KICK OUT OF THE H. M. INITIALS THING. AS TMM MENTIONED THERE'S LOTS OF RAW POTENTIAL THERE. MORE POTENTIAL THAT WE HAVE BEEN SHOWING FOR AWHILE AS A MATTER OF FACT (UNTIL TMM SHOWED UP AND STARTED SPARKING THINGS UP AGAIN (I'D LIKE TO UNOFFICIALLY NOMINATE TMM FOR THE NON-EXSISTANT OBFUSCATE OF THE MONTH AWARD) WE WERE DEFINITELY STUCK IN A RUT. I'D LIKE TO TOTALLY REBUT RACER-X'S STATEMENT ABOUT POPULARITY CONTESTS AND SOCIAL CIRCLES. IF ASS LICKING IS WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR THEN GIZMO WOULD HAVE BEEN AN OBFUSCATE TEN TIMES OVER. ANYWAY, AT THIS POINT I THINK THAT POTENTIAL IS ALL WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE. AND #2 HAS MORE THAN THAT. AS A MATTER OF FACT I THINK THAT IF WE WANT TO KEEP THE WHOLE THING FROM DYING OUT THEN WE SHOULD THINK SERIOUSLY ABOUT EXPANDING OUR RANKS SOME MORE. I'D LIKE TO SEE ABOUT 4 OR 5 NEW OBFUSCATES APPOINTED IN THE NEAR FUTURE. IF WE CAN'T FIND THEM HERE THEN WE SHOULD CALL AROUND AND SEEK THEM OUT. C- - - P.S. WHO SAID THAT IT HAD TO BE UNANIMOUS? Comments : WAY!=100 HAHAHA=100 DOINK=100 Message # 590. Reply to #589 Date: 01/17/92. Time: 10:42:23. Read 19 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : HACK MAN Subj : Current Issues RECEIVED HERE HERE! Excellent words oh man of the big toe! Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym p.s. Maybe we should make number two a obfuscate so that Racer x will stop calling. Maybe we could get through a day without his foolishness. Comments : HAHAHA=100 #590. Message # 591. Date: 01/17/92. Time: 15:30:52. Read 27 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Whomever Subj : New Obfuscates I'd say that there is a clear majority vote for #2, so I'd like to urge the Doink to make any necessary access changes. Also, does anybody know where my cerebellum is, I seem to have misplaced it. Message # 592. Reply to #583 Date: 01/19/92. Time: 08:51:56. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : smubject RECEIVED You can try to dry Bud if you want to, but if you ask me, I think he needs to stay in the bathtub a couple of more years... +++Gravebuster Message # 593. Reply to #589 Date: 01/19/92. Time: 08:56:20. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Current Issues RECEIVED I think the "unanimous" thing came from all the people you bestowed as obfuscates, and Racer X especially took that to heart because he wanted to be the last obfuscate. That's why he votes no on everybody else. In fact, there are lots of silly reasons floating around about what does or doesn't make an obfuscate and what does or doesn't need to happen for someone to become an obfuscate. I try telling everybody that people become obfuscates when you decide to make them obfuscates, and that's all there is to it, but no one seems to be able to accept it at that. +++Gravebuster --==imagine me more persuasive, please!==-- Message # 594. Reply to #591 Date: 01/19/92. Time: 09:00:33. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Your cerebellum is in a place where it obviously isn't, unless it's in the place where it is supposed to be, but that doesn't change anything now, does it? +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 595. Reply to #591 Date: 01/19/92. Time: 09:02:50. Read 12 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Again, to Number Two becoming an obfuscate, I say "yes" and do it quickly! And even though it's after the fact, I change my voted for de-obfuscating Racer X to "undecided", and I concede to the actions taken by our Royal Suckfulness... +++Gravebuster Message # 596. Reply to #595 Date: 01/19/92. Time: 17:38:37. Read 12 Times. From : Ubik To : Gravebuster Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Having assessed the debate I vote as follows Num. Two - YES! Num. Racer - No , he should be doomed to be an obfuscate no matter how much he hates it. Thats life. We should however get owerselves a usable anarchists board. Perhaps open a new one and add it to Two's responcibilities? Add ing more obfuscates is an important thought. Must add to the gene pool and all that (speaking metaphoricaly of course) The excellent job Skurk has done with the sex board makes her an obvious concideration, but then it might be too conformist for her. (hehe) Num. Two Yes! Ubik There are NO Whole Systems Bohr/Bell/Bohm Message # 597. Reply to #593 Date: 01/20/92. Time: 01:18:26. Read 10 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Current Issues RECEIVED Hear, hear. Message # 598. Reply to #594 Date: 01/20/92. Time: 01:18:46. Read 10 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Uh, how's that again?. Message # 599. Reply to #595 Date: 01/20/92. Time: 01:19:20. Read 12 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED I didn't gnow we had any royal suckfulness? Where have you guys been hiding it?!?!?! Message # 600. Reply to #596 Date: 01/20/92. Time: 01:20:16. Read 18 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Ubik Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED I think we should give the anarchists board nack to the ANARCHIST! #600. Message # 601. Reply to #591 Date: 01/20/92. Time: 21:52:13. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED OH, THAT MUST BE WHAT I FOUND IN THE GARAGE TODAY. IT STILL LOOKED PRETTY FRESH SO I PUT IT IN THE SLOPPY JOES. C- - - Message # 602. Reply to #601 Date: 01/24/92. Time: 10:23:37. Read 18 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Why is GB non-existent? I guess this place is no fun for him now that racer x is gone... Message # 603. Reply to #600 Date: 01/24/92. Time: 15:37:20. Read 15 Times. From : Ubik To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Thatsd right! Are we Anarchists or mice! Lets blow sumthin up! gotta match? Ubik Message # 604. Reply to #591 Date: 02/04/92. Time: 11:04:47. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Yes, as a matter of fact I have seen it. I am very sorry to say that thew other day when you weren't looking, I borrowed it, and made myself a Cerrebellum Sandwich. Very very tasty, but if it means that much to you, then I guess I can find a way of replicating it and returning it. Your Pal 2 PS you don't mind if I make a few changes, do you? Message # 605. Reply to #97 Date: 02/04/92. Time: 12:50:41. Read 16 Times. From : Number Two To : HACK MAN Subj : SNARGLEDEGOP RECEIVED test tube, but from a beaker. Since there are extreme rivalries, and bad feelings between beakers and test tubes, I guess that I can safely say "N'yeah N'yeah Pookie pookie blah" Message # 606. Reply to #528 Date: 02/04/92. Time: 12:56:18. Read 14 Times. From : Number Two To : Cleric Ilsaram Subj : smubject RECEIVED Ahh, but having thoroughly reviewed your artifice, I am loathe to tell you.....it is not your own. Who cares though, neither is mine. Gues what? I sang lead in a band called "Fatal Hour" for about a week. Then the band finally broke up. They were on the skids anyway. oh well Your Pal 2 Message # 607. Reply to #605 Date: 02/04/92. Time: 21:05:31. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Number Two Subj : SNARGLEDEGOP RECEIVED WELL, I GUESS YOU'LL PASS THEN. C- - - P.S. CONGRATS MR OBFUSCATE. Message # 608. Reply to #599 Date: 02/05/92. Time: 08:23:36. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED He can't hide, and that's the biggest problem! +++Gravebuster Message # 609. Reply to #602 Date: 02/05/92. Time: 08:24:20. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Oh, is that what I am? I was wondering about that myself... +++Gravebuster Message # 610. Reply to #604 Date: 02/05/92. Time: 08:24:58. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Welcome, Number Two. Well, come number too! +++Gravebuster #610. Message # 611. Reply to #610 Date: 02/05/92. Time: 14:22:22. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED I'm sorry, I can't hear you that well..... I'm picking up a mexican radio station right now, and I can barely barely get you guys. Thax thanx, I think drink Your Pal 2 Message # 613. Reply to #611 Date: 02/06/92. Time: 12:26:33. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED You think drink while Thax thanxes? And what's that number to? +++Gravebuster Message # 614. Reply to #613 Date: 02/06/92. Time: 13:13:43. Read 15 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED (Garbled Static) . . . . . . . . . . . . (Silence) o Message # 615. Date: 02/07/92. Time: 07:52:56. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Just To Let You Gnow RECEIVED I won't be there tonight! +++Gravebuster Message # 616. Reply to #615 Date: 02/08/92. Time: 00:35:14. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Just To Let You Gnow RECEIVED WELL WAAAAAA! THEN. C- - - P.S. YOU MISSED THE EXPLOSION. Message # 617. Reply to #616 Date: 02/08/92. Time: 11:26:10. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Just To Let You Gnow RECEIVED That was precisely why I didn't show up! +++Gravebuster --==great match, eh?==-- Message # 618. Reply to #609 Date: 02/09/92. Time: 02:21:04. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED So was I... Message # 619. Reply to #604 Date: 02/09/92. Time: 14:58:50. Read 19 Times. From : Ubik To : Number Two Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Far out. How are you going to do this? Do you hope to recover intact DNA from your stool samples and re-clone it? Ubik just wondering Message # 620. Reply to #611 Date: 02/09/92. Time: 15:02:10. Read 15 Times. From : Ubik To : Number Two Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Number Two an Obfuscate??? I knew there was something wrong with that guy! Ubik #620. Message # 621. Reply to #618 Date: 02/13/92. Time: 20:41:29. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Well, seeing as you are a pro at existing in Non, tell me, what did you do while you existed as such, and how did you cease your non-existence? Did someone blow you into non-oblivion? Did oblivion blow you into non-someone? Or did you exist when oblivion blew someone into cessation? And what is cessation of non-existence, other than the existence outside of the great beyond? And is this cessation beyond oblivion, or did I just blow it? +++Gravebuster Message # 622. Reply to #621 Date: 02/13/92. Time: 23:07:41. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Actually, I just tapped my heels together and repeated "There's no place like home..." Message # 623. Reply to #622 Date: 02/14/92. Time: 23:44:35. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED So everyone should tap their heels together and say the magic mantra, "There's no place like home." Unless, of course, someone has built a replica house, and in this county, that is very likely, and since we are not talking about "exactly", then almost everybody can't say that there's no place like home truthfully, because almost everybody who calls this board has a tract home, but then, who said it had to be true for us to say it, which brings up the problem of those of us who may sport artifical legs, because do those type of heels count, and would there be a problem in tapping them together, and what is the difference between a tap and a click, and what if someone accidentally clicks their heels together rather than tap their heels together, but then those people could find two people who are heals and tap them together, but I wouldn't want to be those people, especially if they use a drill tap, but the mantra isn't magic, and it isn't even a mantra anyway, but we could make it one if we really want to, but we don't really want to, because what we really want to do is sit back, relax, wiggle our toes, read a good book, and have happy thoughts, so I think we should do as I suggest... +++Gravebuster Comments : HAHAHA=42 HUH?=34 Message # 624. Reply to #623 Date: 02/17/92. Time: 01:23:20. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED And what's that? Comments : BRAVO!=34 Message # 625. Reply to #624 Date: 02/18/92. Time: 23:00:05. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Precisely! +++Gravebuster Message # 627. Reply to #619 Date: 02/19/92. Time: 07:56:03. Read 14 Times. From : Number Two To : Ubik Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED Naw, just leftovers. Message # 628. Reply to #620 Date: 02/19/92. Time: 07:56:50. Read 12 Times. From : Number Two To : Ubik Subj : New Obfuscates RECEIVED What can you do? Message # 629. Date: 02/23/92. Time: 02:02:24. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Subj : RECEIVED Down with yellow kumquats!!! Message # 630. Reply to #629 Date: 02/23/92. Time: 12:49:59. Read 12 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : RECEIVED Agreed. +++Gravebuster #630. Message # 631. Date: 02/23/92. Time: 12:52:22. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Read Message #462 RECEIVED Go back and read message #462, and you will learn about the significance of certain comment numbers. +++Gravebuster Comments : BRAVO!=3 Message # 632. Reply to #631 Date: 02/27/92. Time: 11:36:04. Read 16 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Read Message #462 RECEIVED That sucks, it won't accept pi!!!! ! Message # 633. Reply to #632 Date: 02/27/92. Time: 21:07:13. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Read Message #462 RECEIVED That is because of the ineffable sublimity of pi. +++Gravebuster Message # 634. Reply to #633 Date: 02/29/92. Time: 02:28:58. Read 15 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Read Message #462 RECEIVED And because it is sub op here. Harumph! Your Pal 2 Message # 635. Reply to #634 Date: 02/29/92. Time: 02:29:59. Read 13 Times. From : Number Two To : Number Two Subj : Read Message #462 RECEIVED God, I love 34! 2 laP ruoY Message # 636. Reply to #633 Date: 02/29/92. Time: 13:25:46. Read 13 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Read Message #462 RECEIVED Oh, I guess I'll adopt 69 then. Message # 637. Reply to #634 Date: 03/01/92. Time: 00:14:03. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Read Message #462 RECEIVED No, pi is not sub op here. Non-existent is. And don't go pushing your religion on us, whippersnapper! +++Gravebuster Message # 638. Reply to #636 Date: 03/01/92. Time: 00:14:52. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Read Message #462 RECEIVED I was hoping you would. +++Gravebuster Message # 639. Reply to #638 Date: 03/01/92. Time: 14:24:56. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Read Message #462 RECEIVED I'd much prefer 42 though... s. Message # 640. Date: 03/04/92. Time: 09:38:25. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two To : ALL Subj : Ruin... Ned ruins the whole experience of this board for me. He twists things like a pretzel maker, and then rubs salt in them. I really don't enjoy pretzels all that much. Be Seeing You??? #640. Message # 641. Reply to #640 Date: 03/04/92. Time: 17:53:58. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Number Two Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED Wah! . Message # 642. Reply to #641 Date: 03/05/92. Time: 07:38:32. Read 13 Times. From : Number Two To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED Spend more thyme reading Oolon Coluphid's trilogy of philosophical blockbusters and you might clear that up. (Fermez la bouche, and continue to chew on your pretzels. As a matter of fact, have mine too!) Be Seeing You?? Message # 643. Reply to #640 Date: 03/05/92. Time: 19:20:17. Read 16 Times. From : Ubik To : Number Two Subj : Ruin... Two Dude, Mellow thy self out. Verily the wind doth make much noise. It doth howl and it doth blow. Verily it doth even suck at times. Be of strong mind though. The wind is just so much hot air and it can effect the not. If there were no dumb shits we would be in heaven already. Do your time on earth like a nice number. Dont let it bug ya -s- - -S- - -- inkydoo -- -s- s | | | |===================================== | |===================================== |--| \__ |\_\ \|\_\ \|\_\ \|\_\ \|_| Comments : WAY!=34 HAHAHA=142 BRAVO!=100 Message # 644. Reply to #643 Date: 03/07/92. Time: 04:32:09. Read 15 Times. From : Muckpup To : Ubik Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED Aye, I see the sense in it but my receptors can be none too short on sensitvity and the creation of the energy of feeling Words can sting and sore but worse are the twister whose very gaze causes words once sharp like poinards Into curling coils too long, and too deep I hate to see my children belittled and deformed as fruit? they are best ripe and freshened not mashed into some idiots slop Otherwise, I am center and the external is essentially bereft of the dagger of grief Thank you master Inkydoo Thrive! -kb Message # 645. Reply to #639 Date: 03/07/92. Time: 16:26:04. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Read Message #462 RECEIVED Well, you'll have to bargain with HM for that one. +++Gravebuster Message # 646. Reply to #640 Date: 03/07/92. Time: 16:26:31. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED I don't gnow why NZ ruins the board for you. However I don't read the War Board, either, and that may make the difference. On the rest of the boards, he may be rude and abrasive at times, but he's usually funny, too. It's like what HM said on the Tavern--NZ has been behaving himself on all the other subboards. I suggest you consider whether or not your opinion of him hasn't been clouded by convos on the War Board. The War Board shouldn't be taken seriously. I say that because I have a good opinion of NZ as a user. Besides, I gnew what he was like years ago when he was Nibbling Ned, and he's improved so much since then. +++Gravebuster --==better yet, listen to Howard Stern on KLSX for a week. NZ's tame compared to his idol==-- Comments : NO WAY!=23 Message # 647. Reply to #641 Date: 03/07/92. Time: 16:30:42. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED You have such a way with words, there... +++Gravebuster Message # 648. Reply to #645 Date: 03/10/92. Time: 00:26:56. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Read Message #462 RECEIVED It doesn't matter, since SOME people use other peoples numbers... ...eh GB? Message # 649. Reply to #646 Date: 03/10/92. Time: 00:28:22. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED Indeed, Ned has changed a lot. I would like to point out that me and him are at odds about many things, our outlooks on life are completely contrary to each other, we both think that the other person is quite closed-minded (and we're both probably right), and we tend to annoy the heck out of each other, BUT, we both post to each other, we accept each others opinions and form of expression, however far out they may seem, and we don't bitch about each other right and left, asserting that the other person ruins the board for each other. It's called communication. Message # 650. Reply to #647 Date: 03/10/92. Time: 00:32:51. Read 21 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED WAAH! . #650. Message # 651. Reply to #649 Date: 03/10/92. Time: 19:27:29. Read 19 Times. From : Number two To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED He discusses with you because you both agree on alot of stuff. I also agree thathe has changed, but that is a moot point. He can do what he likes here, as long as he doesn't go past whatever sensible boundries that Ray sets up. I really don't mind, too much, what anybody says. I am just a very emotional person, and without facial, and hand gestures, and voice inflection cues; I have the tendency to read alot more intoa post than was originally intended. I enjoy this form of communication, but it is severally limited in a "real" sense. Your pal 2 Message # 652. Reply to #649 Date: 03/10/92. Time: 21:01:01. Read 14 Times. From : Ubik To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED Neat concept. Ubik Message # 653. Reply to #651 Date: 03/11/92. Time: 00:16:27. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Number two Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED YES, THAT'S TRUE. IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD COME UP WITH WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO DESCRIBE THEIR EMOTIONS WHILE THEY ARE TYPING. MAYBE WE SHOULD COME UP WITH A COLOR PROTOCOL. RED = PISSED, BLUE = SAD, ETC. OF COURSE, THEN GRAVEBUSTER WOULD BE FORCED TO BUY A REAL COMPUTER. C- - - Comments : HAHAHA=100 Message # 654. Reply to #653 Date: 03/11/92. Time: 16:51:57. Read 17 Times. From : Number two To : HACK MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED Then I would be forced to buy a real computer. Anyway, so how are those smogberry bushes I planted in your microwave doing? I hope you have had the chance to propel........oooooooohhhh ack! USER LOGGED INBETWEEN Message # 656. Reply to #649 Date: 03/13/92. Time: 07:20:43. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED What's communication? What? You mean we are actually supposed to pay attention to what the other person is saying? And we are supposed to show that we understood before responding? What a radical concept! +++Gravebuster Message # 657. Reply to #650 Date: 03/13/92. Time: 07:22:14. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED That was even more eloquent, with each letter sized for a perfect expression and the extra 'a' added to give a certain personality to the whole post! +++Gravebuster Message # 658. Reply to #651 Date: 03/13/92. Time: 07:24:25. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number two Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED TMM said in the previous post that he and NZ disagree on a lot of things, and that both consider the other one to be close-minded. They really don't have that many things in common with each other, but they apparently can communicate with each other anyways. If you gnow that you read too much into a message, shouldn't you just skip past those messages that provoke you and go back to them after a day or so? +++Gravebuster --==just suggesting==-- Message # 659. Reply to #653 Date: 03/13/92. Time: 07:27:53. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED I gnew there was a plot to get me to cave in to this herd mentality about actually owning a real computer. I gnew this suspicion wasn't just paranoia! Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me! I have proof! Proof! Call the newspapers! +++Gravebuster --==...==-- Message # 660. Reply to #648 Date: 03/13/92. Time: 07:29:57. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Read Message #462 RECEIVED Yeah, TMM, please don't use my 100, and if you want, I'll remove those 69s. +++Gravebuster --==:)==-- Comments : WAY!=69 #660. Message # 661. Reply to #658 Date: 03/13/92. Time: 10:21:55. Read 17 Times. From : Number two To : Gravebuster Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED well, that might be prudent. friends, after having seen the way I talk while logged on, say I should quit, "if it's all like that" meaning Nz, of course. You know I actually considered that for about two weeks, then thought, fuck no, I'd hate to lose a whole bunch of friends over a genetic Irish temper that's been dormant too long and wont take a back seat to any of my higher brain functions especially when I am using a bulletin borad or have ingested a mind altering substance like bad mayonaise. --=='tis not worth it==-- The Obfuscates push-pin pall's obfuscate.......tWo --==Imagine that, me...an obfuscate? Get real!==-- Message # 662. Date: 03/14/92. Time: 13:51:10. Read 15 Times. From : Number two To : Monitor of Telepathic Tra Subj : Hey what a minute.. Isn't this the Temple of Diffusion? Aren't you guys the Blurrfuscates or am I at the wrong party? Your Pal Refractee Message # 663. Reply to #651 Date: 03/16/92. Time: 14:43:37. Read 19 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Number two Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED I agree about the limitations, and as a result, don't take anything seriously. I can't afford to. Message # 664. Reply to #656 Date: 03/16/92. Time: 14:45:03. Read 18 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED One I rarely abide by. Oh, and yes to your second question.... Message # 665. Reply to #657 Date: 03/16/92. Time: 14:45:54. Read 18 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED Plus, it was a four letter word! Message # 666. Reply to #659 Date: 03/16/92. Time: 14:48:10. Read 20 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED YOU don't have a real computer???? Message # 667. Date: 03/16/92. Time: 14:50:44. Read 19 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Subj : RECEIVED It's alive... Message # 668. Reply to #663 Date: 03/16/92. Time: 17:42:00. Read 23 Times. From : Ubik To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED Life is too important to be taken seriously. Oscar Wilde Message # 669. Reply to #668 Date: 03/17/92. Time: 12:11:19. Read 20 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Ubik Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED Very true! Message # 670. Reply to #664 Date: 03/17/92. Time: 23:54:39. Read 21 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED Oh, good. For a moment there, I thought you were ignoring mi, and what would do and re do without mi... +++Gravebuster #670. Message # 671. Reply to #665 Date: 03/17/92. Time: 23:55:49. Read 22 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED And it was followed by the sacred dot... +++Gravebuster Message # 672. Reply to #666 Date: 03/17/92. Time: 23:56:11. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED No, I have a dumb terminal hooked to a smartmodem, and it's monochrome to boot, so everything looks like different shades of green... +++Gravebuster --==this right here, for example, looks green to me...==-- Message # 673. Reply to #663 Date: 03/18/92. Time: 14:19:17. Read 29 Times. From : Number two To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED I agree, but it is stimuli, and it does affect me, whether I like it or not. Don't take that the wrong way. I mean it affects everyone who looks at it, just to differant degrees. Me, I am affected a pretty good amount. Not on stupid war posts, but on posts that quote me wrong or misuse what I say. That is what really makes me irate. Warring is an elemental function of a bbs, and should not be completely stifled, just controlled. Occaisonally, a war can be good for you, clean out the psyche and all that. Hell, I enjoy a good war, now and again myself. I am sub-op on two war boards in the area, so I must do it sometimes. In finsihing, I must add that I know a great deal of the users here, and have enjoyed there company in person and had plenty of fun with them that had nothing whatsoever to do with a bbs. Friends have much less tendency to take things wrong in a bbs format. That is why I like this board.....Friends!! Take Care of Yourselves... Your Pal Kevin Comments : WAY!=23 Message # 674. Reply to #651 Date: 03/20/92. Time: 00:37:17. Read 20 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : Number two Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED It is only limited when you try and add to what is said. When you take it all seriously and when you become truely mad over it is when you have gone over the edge. Some people think I have done this online, but I have yet to get Truely mad or take something seriously that was not private. (even when private it depends on who and what it is). Alot of my posts are not of my true feelings... Especially on the Tavern. I say alot of stuff just to see what certain users will come back with. However, I am also alot like myself online. I react as if I would someone was talking to me in person, but then I just fluff it off and don't let it bother me. i have recieved many a private mail asking me why i was mad or the like and had to explain this... Nz is the same way but far worse and more abrasive. He is playing a nifty complicated computer game. We are the elements of the game... Anyway... Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym p.s. it's amazing how such small things I did and said caused so much activity... I'm not claiming everything or bragging... just marveling at it. Nz plays the game with a different style... Message # 675. Date: 03/20/92. Time: 15:30:15. Read 19 Times. From : Number two To : Anyone who cares Subj : My new number...if you care! Kevin "Eat a slug and die or vomit" Boyle 643-2757 (caution this is long distance from Camarillo) 1075 N. Olive street Apt. 30 Ventura. ca 9 3 0 0 1 awwwwwwww+++ OK øøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøxüxøøøøx USER LOGGED OFF Message # 676. Reply to #675 Date: 03/20/92. Time: 20:38:48. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number two Subj : My new number...if you care! RECEIVED I guess you didn't vomit... +++Gravebuster --==gotta watch out for those vicious telephone lines==-- Message # 677. Reply to #676 Date: 03/21/92. Time: 23:21:56. Read 19 Times. From : Number two To : Gravebuster Subj : My new number...if you care! RECEIVED The phone company is run by Dog boys and their mean women (qoute hahahaha well sort of) Be Seeing You?? Message # 678. Date: 04/01/92. Time: 02:06:17. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : Bugaloo Shrimp Subj : Ahem! You all suck Massive Cheese Sticks -==Obfuscator==-- That's the proper term. I looked it up. Message # 679. Reply to #678 Date: 04/02/92. Time: 21:09:59. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Ahem! RECEIVED You forgot your obfuscation, N2! My words, the word is ours, after the world had neglected it for so long, and we not only expanded its meaningful meaninglessness, but we have changed its pronunciation and its conjugation until the word and its usage is wholly ours! And now the world dares to try and take the word back (I've heard or read it four times in the last year in the media). No, they must, if they wish, take the form they discarded years before, with such sensible things like "obfuscator." No, for us, who gnow nothing and yet have a brighter way and future before us, or after us, or who is us anyway, we shall always be gnown as OBFUSCATES!!!!! +++Gravebuster Message # 680. Reply to #679 Date: 04/03/92. Time: 04:06:59. Read 16 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Ahem! RECEIVED Sounds perfectly selfish and unreasonable. I like it! Yeah, go back into text from about the turn of the century and you will find the word everywhere. It seems in the past almost everyone got obfuscated now and again. Kinda like marijuana nowadays. Your Pal 2 -== ==-- #680. Message # 681. Reply to #680 Date: 04/04/92. Time: 22:50:27. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Ahem! RECEIVED People did something in the past that we don't do much anymore--- DOINK! Huh? What? No, that wasn't what I was going to say! I was going to say--- DOINK! Hey, that's rude! I just want to make my point about reading, and I can't even post the word--- DOINK! Stop that! DOINK! I said DOINK!---no, I meant DOINK! uh oh, I think I'm DOINK! stuck again DOINK! Hheeellllppp!! DOINK! DOINK! DOINK! INFINITE DOINK! MODE ENGAGED Message # 682. Reply to #681 Date: 04/05/92. Time: 02:42:53. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Ahem! RECEIVED I hope you realize how rude it is to send me one of those. You probably don't, soI'll explain. For some odd reason, my space bar doesn't abort posts, and return doesn't skip, so I have to read every message or wait for the more prompt. If it wasn't for the more prompt, I would quit calling here. Infinitely repeating messages are an extreme pain, as I cannot get rid of them. Once I had to actually turn my computer off so I could get out of it. So as cute as Infinite doink mode is, I must ask you to try and protect me from it's everlasting embrace. Thanx, Your Pal 2 --==Hey, I'm everyone's pal==-- Message # 685. Reply to #682 Date: 04/05/92. Time: 12:40:06. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Ahem! RECEIVED Hey, I can help you with that problem. Just stare at this dot--- . You are now feeling very relaxed.Relax. Now your eyelids are barely staying opened.Relax. Now you will do what is necessary to get a real terminal program. You will now awake when I count to three. 1--2--3 Message # 686. Reply to #685 Date: 04/08/92. Time: 05:07:08. Read 14 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Ahem! RECEIVED Stop that (yawn), but as for my terminal program, leave me alone. It's the one Hack Man gave me and I feel very attached to it for that reason. Alot of users are trying to get me to switch to Q modem, but I have so far refused and ferused. You'll have to excuse me now, my brain itches, and the bone saw is in the other room. Be Seeing You?? Message # 687. Date: 04/11/92. Time: 22:47:10. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Test RECEIVED Let me try obfuscatronix. I seem to be having problems. D Message # 688. Date: 04/12/92. Time: 22:50:41. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Another Test RECEIVED Let's see how this works. Here goes... --==it was the Newline; it needs to be "off" on my terminal; problem fixed==-- --==now I need to get caught up on the sci/phi board :)==-- Message # 689. Date: 04/20/92. Time: 01:42:33. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : About Your Problem With The Infinite Obfuscatronix RECEIVED Have you tried hitting the spacebar when it happens? That's the way I get out of it, and I remember when I first encounter the trick that I had problems, too, until ML suggested the spacebar. +++Gravebuster Message # 690 -- Private. #690. Message # 691. Reply to #690 Date: 04/25/92. Time: 19:03:35. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : About Your Problem With The Infinite Obfuscatronix RECEIVED On my terminal/smart modem configuration, there's a function called "Newline" that has to be "off" in order for the returns and the obfuscatronix to work right. Maybe your terminal program has something similar that prevents you from interrupting the infinite routine and skipping to the next message? +++Gravebuster Message # 692. Date: 04/30/92. Time: 20:05:38. Read 21 Times. From : Ubik To : All Subj : Saints You know what this Temple needs? We need some Saints. Discordians got saints. Catholics got saints. Why shouldnt obfuscates have saints. Maybe about 12 of them. So they can fit with regular holidays of some sort. All on Friday of course. The worlds greatest Obfuscators Each should be pretty darn close to unamanious. How about Saint Jimi Curly? The Dali Lama? Wilhelm Reich? Monty Python? we should hear lots of names before deciding this is after all an unspeakably high and prestigious office. Ubik Comments : OBFUSCATED=23 Message # 693. Reply to #685 Date: 05/01/92. Time: 18:56:05. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Ahem! RECEIVED IT'S NOT HIS TERMINAL PROGRAM. IT'S HIS COMPUTER. THE SAME THING WILL HAPPEN WITH ALL 8086'S. YOU SEE WHILE THE COMPUTER IS BEEPING IT CAN DO NOTHING ELSE BECAUSE THE BEEP TAKES OVER THE WHOLE SYSTEM. THE BEEP LASTS ABOUT A HALF A SECOND, SO IF YOU SEND MORE THAN TWO BEEPS A SECOND THERE'S NOTHING #2 CAN DO BUT TURN OFF HIS COMPUTER AND TRY AGAIN. C- - - Message # 694. Reply to #692 Date: 05/01/92. Time: 18:59:52. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Ubik Subj : Saints RECEIVED WELL, I LIKE THE IDEA. BUT I DON'T GNOW IF I LIKE THE TERM SAINT. I HAD THOUGHT BEFORE OF NAMING HONORARY OBFUSCATES. IN FACT I HAD THOUGHT ABOUT EXPANDING IT RADICALLY INTO SOME KIND OF NATIONAL CLUB. ANYBODY WHO WANTED TO COULD BE AN OBFUSCATE, AND THEN THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME KIND OF HIGHER RANK FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE MORE "WORTHY". THEN WE COULD ALSO GET AROUND AND APPOINT HONORARY OBFUSCATES OR WHATEVER THEY MIGHT BE CALLED. WE COULD EVEN MAKE UP A NICE DIPLOMA LIKE CERTIFICATE AND SEND IT TO THESE PEOPLE WHOM WE NAME - AND I'M SURE THEY WOULD RECIEVE IT AND SAY, "WHAT THE HECK IS THAT?" C- - - Message # 695. Reply to #694 Date: 05/02/92. Time: 03:45:35. Read 14 Times. From : Number Two To : HACK MAN Subj : Saints RECEIVED And tell them that in being an Obfuscate they have won $5. Now all they have to do to get their five bux is send a self addressed envelope with $10 to cover postage and handling. --==Flax==-- Your Pal 2 Message # 696. Reply to #693 Date: 05/02/92. Time: 13:38:26. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Ahem! RECEIVED What a difference a beep! makes! +++Gravebuster --==sorry N2!==-- Message # 697. Date: 05/17/92. Time: 06:35:44. Read 25 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : To The Obfuscates Of The First Order Of Kumquatment My life is as empty as a jar of pickles. Nowhere has there ever been seen such an emptiness. The emptiness stretches as far and beyond as my bedroom, and cannot be contained. And what, what can slake the satisfaction of my emptiness? And who, who can answer my statement? I pause for an eternal moment. --==Gravebuster==-- +++OBFUSCATE Message # 698. Reply to #697 Date: 05/18/92. Time: 18:07:21. Read 19 Times. From : Ubik To : Gravebuster Subj : To The Obfuscates Of The First Order Of Kumquatment RECEIVED To ALL: We are going to have to get this guy laid before his brain rots. Ubik M.O. Comments : WAY!=34 HAHAHA=134 BRAVO!=34 Message # 699. Reply to #670 Date: 06/02/92. Time: 01:32:53. Read 16 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED It would probably go fa so the la could catch tido... Comments : HAHAHA=100 Message # 700. Reply to #671 Date: 06/02/92. Time: 01:36:07. Read 27 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED All hail the sacred dot! #700. Message # 701. Reply to #672 Date: 06/02/92. Time: 01:36:39. Read 19 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED My system is opposite of yours, I have a smart terminal and a dumb modem which down't equal each other out very well. In addition to that, my dog just threw up all over me, hold on... . Message # 702. Reply to #673 Date: 06/02/92. Time: 01:39:38. Read 20 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Number two Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED That had to be one of the most obfuscated posts I've seen in a LONG time! jk Message # 703. Reply to #692 Date: 06/02/92. Time: 01:43:33. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Ubik Subj : Saints RECEIVED Dan Qyayle? Message # 704. Reply to #697 Date: 06/02/92. Time: 01:45:38. Read 19 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : To The Obfuscates Of The First Order Of Kumquatment RECEIVED Because it Message # 705. Reply to #698 Date: 06/02/92. Time: 01:46:36. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Ubik Subj : To The Obfuscates Of The First Order Of Kumquatment RECEIVED We should let his brain rot first, then he'll have a better chance of getting laid. Comments : HAHAHA=100 Message # 706. Reply to #700 Date: 06/12/92. Time: 03:02:03. Read 16 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED May it forever tell us when to breathe! Message # 707. Reply to #706 Date: 06/12/92. Time: 14:19:14. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED OH NO! I DON'T SPEAK DOTTISH. (TURNING BLUE) C- - - Message # 708. Reply to #701 Date: 06/17/92. Time: 18:49:17. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED The connectivity of all that absolutely boggles the mind. +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 709. Reply to #704 Date: 06/17/92. Time: 18:50:25. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : To The Obfuscates Of The First Order Of Kumquatment RECEIVED Does be cause it? A revelation! +++Gravebuster Message # 710. Reply to #708 Date: 06/19/92. Time: 01:24:01. Read 19 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED And other things as well! Why does the mind always have to be the thing to get boggled? Why couldn't it boggle the nose? #710. Message # 711. Reply to #709 Date: 06/19/92. Time: 01:26:46. Read 18 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : To The Obfuscates Of The First Order Of Kumquatment RECEIVED Everyone gnows that it's before it! Message # 713. Reply to #711 Date: 06/20/92. Time: 22:08:29. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : To The Obfuscates Of The First Order Of Kumquatment RECEIVED But is it b-side itself? +++Gravebuster Message # 714. Reply to #710 Date: 06/20/92. Time: 22:09:15. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED I just realized I never really gnew what "boggle" meant. I doubt many of us did... boggle, v.i., 1. to hesitate, as from doubt or scruples; shrink back, of with 'at.' 2. To start with fright, as a horse. 3. To equivocate*; dissemble. 4. To work clumsily; fumble. --v.t. 5. To make a botch of; bungle. I won't post the noun definitions. Since "boggles the mind" is definitely a verb with a direct object, definition 5 is the only one that can pertain, because none of the other definitions take direct objects. However, the way I use it is more similar to definition 3, and even then, I meant it more as "confused" than "equivocated and dissembled", which involves deception. Since I'm hardly the first one nor the only one who uses "boggles the mind," I think the dictionaries may need to add to the definitions of that word. But based on definition 5, I definitely think you can boggle the nose, too. +++Gravebuster --==*I had to look up "equivocate" and "dissemble", too.==-- Message # 715. Reply to #713 Date: 06/21/92. Time: 03:36:26. Read 16 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : To The Obfuscates Of The First Order Of Kumquatment RECEIVED Only Message # 716. Reply to #705 Date: 06/28/92. Time: 13:17:10. Read 12 Times. From : Number Two To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : To The Obfuscates Of The First Order Of Kumquatment RECEIVED Well by then the heady aroma issuing forth from all of his orifices that are any where near the brain might just make it hard for him to get sexed up, but then again my brain hasn't been rotting and I have no idea what that does for your charisma. Your Pal 2 Message # 717. Reply to #706 Date: 06/28/92. Time: 13:18:51. Read 12 Times. From : Number Two To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED "May I breathe now?" "just a sec" "Hurry, I am beginning to turn blue" "just one more second" "Mmmmmph" "huh, what was that?" "oh damn...." Message # 718. Reply to #700 Date: 07/25/92. Time: 02:30:12. Read 12 Times. From : Unka Buck To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED . --==UNKA BUCK==-- --==OBFUSCSATE==-- Message # 719. Reply to #710 Date: 07/25/92. Time: 02:33:55. Read 15 Times. From : Unka Buck To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED Doesn't Hack Mans Big Toe frequently get boggled? -UNKA BUCK- Message # 720. Date: 07/25/92. Time: 02:36:24. Read 15 Times. From : Unka Buck To : all Subj : I'll believe it when I see it... It is just possible that Unka Buck [remember him?] will be in the area from the 12th to the 19th of August. It is further possible that he may wish to get together with other Obfuscates during that time. --== UNKA BUCK ==-- --== OBFUSCATE ==-- #720. Message # 721. Reply to #692 Date: 07/29/92. Time: 03:01:58. Read 21 Times. From : Unka Buck To : Ubik Subj : Saints I like Ubiks idea. Obfuscates need Saints. I would like to open the unofficial nominations. Nominees for Obfuscatory sainthood, listed in obfubetical order. Andy Warhol- Pop artist. If multi-colored Marilyn Monroes and giant Campbell soup cans, as art, aren't proof enough of obfuscation, then watch the movie "Empire." (8 hours of the Empire State Building, nothing else.) Edgar Allen Poe- Poet and writer. Said that the name "Lenore" is one of the most beautiful names ever, and used it in several of his poems. While a cadet at Westpoint, was ordered to report in the morning "in full dress coat." Reported the next morning, "in full dress coat." And nothing else. D. B. Cooper- Airplane hijacker. Alias used by unknown man who hijacked a jumbo jet. Held crew and passengers hostage until paid hundreds of thousands in ransom. Surprised everyone by parachuting out of plane over remote wilderness. Never found. Saint George- Former saint. Recently had sainthood revoked by Catholic church for trivial offense of never having existed. Let's restore his sainthood. I like the idea of a nonexistant person being made an obfuscasaint. Loki- Norse god of mischief. Great trickster with a long history of obfuscating all those other, more uptight, Norse gods. Besides, who could resist promoting a god to a saint in the name of obfuscation. Who- Jack-of-all-trades. Played great 1st base for years before receiving his doctorate and becoming a Gallifreyan Time Lord. Had a long string of Rock and Roll hits, and obfuscated an elephant named Horton into believing a whole world existed on a speck of dust. (Should not be confused with "Who?") J. Golden Kimball- Mormon Apostle. Gnown as "The Swearing Apostle." When told he would go to Hell for swearing, replied, "I will not, I repent too damn fast." Once obfuscated a large congregation into voting in favor of moving a mountain to the other side of the valley. Monty Python- Dramatist. Gnown mostly for his sensitive, moving portrayal of Shrike the Rabbit. Yogi Berra- Philosopher. Because it really isn't over 'til it's over. And, because, 90% of Obfuscation is half mental. FARB- Antarean Spaceship Captain. Started whole UFO flap after too much of the local brandy. Headed Air Force's Project Blue Book for years. Ghost writer for Eric Von Dahneken. Elvis- Undead. Has visted more grocery stores than any other dead person ever. Kim Basinger- Babe. I gnow, she can't obfuscate worth kumquats, [...buy Gravebuster's Kumquat Juice, $35 a case, $50 if your initials are H M...] but it would be nice to have her hanging around at the investiture. Honorable(?) Mention: Nixon- Vulcan statesman. Because, only he could go to China. Would be refered to as "Saint Tricky." Racer X- Ex-Obfuscate. The only Obfuscate obfuscated enough to not be an Obfuscate. Dan Quayle- Idiot. If he was doing it on purpose, he might be the greatest Obfuscate ever. ("...now get back up there and put an 'E' on the end of it...") Other nominations are eagerly awaited. --==UNKA BUCK==-- --==OBFUSCATE==-- Comments : HAHAHA=100 Message # 722. Reply to #721 Date: 07/30/92. Time: 01:05:35. Read 15 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Unka Buck Subj : Saints RECEIVED Hey. I LIKE that! We SHOULD have saints. (And they don't have to be dead for 200 years first...) Should we do like the Christians and all take an additional name of one of the saints upon being "confirmed"? I like your selection, although I disagree with... uh... Who was it I disagreed with? I think it was D.B. Cooper and the guy that came after him in your list. D.B. Cooper was cool, but not really Obfuscatory. I propose we call them Obfusaints, unless someone can think of a better idea. By the way, why are you so mysteriously posting here and no where else and why is no one agnowledging your presense? This isn't another one of those imaginary things again, is it? I'm not flipping out again, am I? Saint George sounds cool. He must have been imaginary. Anyway, here are my proposals for Obfusaints: Charles Shultz (Cartoonist--Author of Peanuts) Introduced characters with names like 5. (Full name 555 95472) and makes jokes about pi. Later, uses the number, googol, in a comic strip (describing the chances of Schroder ever marry- Lucy) Where else are you going to see a line like, "That's a terrible feeling to feel the need to have the feeling of having?" Introduced such figures as the Great Pumpkin, Snoopy, and a REAL child psychologist. Dan Piraro (Another Cartoonist--Author of Bizarro) Buy any of his comic books and that will be proof enough. Makes Gary Larson look normal. !!! GAVISCON AVISCENNA BASINGER !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -I like that. Too long, though. Message # 723. Reply to #719 Date: 08/02/92. Time: 21:02:02. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Unka Buck Subj : Ruin... RECEIVED UH. YEAH. IT'S BEEN BOGGLED RIGHT NOW AS A MATTER OF FACT. C- - - Message # 724. Reply to #721 Date: 08/02/92. Time: 21:05:27. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Unka Buck Subj : Saints RECEIVED HAHAHAHA! C- - - Message # 725. Reply to #721 Date: 08/07/92. Time: 12:03:01. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Unka Buck Subj : Saints RECEIVED I have a question I would like the Obfuscates to debate on. Should Murphy be an obfuscate saint? I mean, consider this: by making one observation about human life, he totally obliterated most religious and philosophical thinking. "If anything can go wrong, it will." What do you think? +++Gravebuster Message # 726. Reply to #725 Date: 08/16/92. Time: 00:47:23. Read 11 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Saints RECEIVED I disagree with everyone's nominations for Obfusaints. Your Pal 2 Message # 727. Reply to #726 Date: 08/16/92. Time: 04:11:19. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Saints RECEIVED Then Everyone had better not waste any time nominating obfusaints, hadn't he? +++Gravebuster Message # 728. Reply to #726 Date: 08/19/92. Time: 01:10:29. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Number Two Subj : Saints RECEIVED I DISAGREE WITH YOUR DISAGREEMENT AND FIND IT RATHER DISAGREEABLE. SO, WHY DON'T WE JUST AGREE TO DISAGREE, OR PERHAPS DISAGREE TO AGREE. DO YOU AGREE? C- - - Message # 729. Reply to #728 Date: 08/19/92. Time: 02:08:17. Read 11 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Saints RECEIVED Only when I have to... +++Gravebuster --==besides, it's not civil to talk about such things...==-- Message # 730. Date: 08/23/92. Time: 23:58:17. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : SKRANK HOWDY. #730. Message # 731. Reply to #730 Date: 08/24/92. Time: 06:38:12. Read 11 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : SKRANK RECEIVED Yes, and may the moon eclipse your water bill as well. +++Gravebuster Message # 732. Reply to #727 Date: 08/26/92. Time: 06:48:45. Read 12 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Saints RECEIVED I agree and thanx for taking my side GB. We need Obfusaints....just not right now. Let's wait a while and maybe one will pop up. Your Pal 2 Message # 733. Reply to #728 Date: 08/26/92. Time: 06:49:49. Read 12 Times. From : Number Two To : HACK MAN Subj : Saints RECEIVED Quite possibly. Let's put it to commitee Your Pal 2 Message # 734. Reply to #733 Date: 08/26/92. Time: 12:15:22. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Saints RECEIVED I tried putting it to a committee once, but it didn't like committees, so I put it to work, and it was quite content last I gnew... +++Gravebuster Message # 735. Reply to #734 Date: 08/28/92. Time: 03:37:03. Read 12 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Saints RECEIVED Let's pickle it and see if it tastes better later. --==at least that's what mom would say==-- Your Pal 2 Message # 736. Reply to #735 Date: 08/30/92. Time: 01:23:23. Read 11 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Saints RECEIVED Nah! That would tend to clarify things, and we don't want any clarification going on around here. Besides, depending on the pickle, it might change your political philosophy. +++Gravebuster Message # 740. Date: 09/18/92. Time: 05:42:54. Read 21 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : The Obfuscate's Book Of Something To Read Page One We must open our eyes to see. We must speak to say something. We must realize that there's nothing we must do. A fire burns when it's hot. To understand is to comprehend. Where shall we go when we get to where we're going? Only pi gnows when a circle ends. You make apple sauce by mashing apples. All paved roads cover up dirt. When it rains, we get wet. Is there anything about a dill pickle that one should desire? You can read when you see letters. +++Gravebuster #740. Message # 741. Date: 09/18/92. Time: 12:07:41. Read 21 Times. From : peggy To : All Subj : Social Security SOCIAL SECURITY She knows a cashier who blushes and lets her use food stamps to buy tulip bulbs and rose bushes. We smile each morning as I pass her - her hand always married to some stick or hoe, or rake. One morning I shout, "I'm not skinny like you so I've gooa run two miles each day." She begs me closer, whispers to my flesh, "All you need, honey, is to be on welfare and love roses." Comments : OBFUSCATED=100 Message # 742. Date: 09/18/92. Time: 22:38:51. Read 23 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : The Obfuscates' Book Of Something To Read Page Two DOINK! The preceding saying is the oldest saying in this book. All politicians are liars; Never vote for a liar; Always vote. To enter an open door, the door must first be opened. I always lie. Hate people who hate. It's all one big thing! Only pi gnows the exact circumference. Believe, and you shall have faith. When you have nothing, then that's something. +++Gravebuster Message # 743. Reply to #740 Date: 09/21/92. Time: 04:06:40. Read 30 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : Gravebuster Subj : The Obfuscate's Book Of Something To Read RECEIVED PERMIFIED I can see with my eyes closed! I can say something without speaking! I realize that there's nothing I must do, expect maybe suck. Even cold fires burn! I have understood without comprehending and I have comprehended without understanding. Where are we going? A circle has no end, no beginning, and PI is incapable of gnowing anything let alone something that does not exist, except maybe TMM. I make apples by smashing applesauce! OK, CLEAN THE EARTH BY PAVING IT! When it rains, the water gets Earthed. One thing I desire about dill pickles is there absence. Who can read when they see letters? Only those who see letters arranged in a fashion that is worthy of reading or those who can read when nothing is meant by the letters (as many try to do and fail). Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym p.s. DOINK! Message # 745. Reply to #743 Date: 09/21/92. Time: 11:58:34. Read 21 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Mynk Lynx Subj : The Obfuscate's Book Of Something To Read RECEIVED And tell me, are you such that you have been obfuscated by The Book Of Something To Read without realizing the obfuscation by which you have been obfuscated? +++Gravebuster -minor confusion Message # 746. Reply to #745 Date: 09/22/92. Time: 00:59:49. Read 21 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : The Obfuscate's Book Of Something To Read RECEIVED No, actually it was the marmalade that caused it........... Your Pal 2 Message # 747. Reply to #746 Date: 09/22/92. Time: 12:33:51. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : The Obfuscate's Book Of Something To Read RECEIVED I wonder if pistachios would help? +++Gravebuster Message # 748. Date: 09/24/92. Time: 16:43:51. Read 23 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : The Obfuscates' Book Of Something To Read Who shall drink when one is thirsty? Who shall eat when one is hungry? Who shall sleep when one is tired? Who shall do nothing when one is lazy? Who shall speak when one says something? Who shall be quiet when one says nothing? Who shall "DOINK!" when one is DOINKish? Who shall elucidate when one is lucid? Who shall cry when one is tearful? Who shall laugh when one is mirthful? Who shall gnow when one has learned? Why ask who if who is not you? +++Gravebuster Comments : BRAVO!=100 Message # 749. Date: 09/25/92. Time: 21:04:56. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : WAH TEST. C- - - Comments : WAY!=42 HAHAHA=42 OBFUSCATED=42 DOINK=42 BRAVO!=42 Message # 750. Date: 10/08/92. Time: 19:20:21. Read 29 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : The Obfuscates' Book Of Something To Read Page four. Obfuscation is the art of explaining a concept so well that the audience will appreciate its importance and not be troubled by meaning. Obfuscation is seriously comical and comically serious while maintaining an illusion that is reality and disrupting a reality that is illusion when the whole thing could be laid out and everything is simply tangled up and the point one is trying to make causes one to wonder if a point was really made. Obfuscation is like the moon, which shines so brightly casting hardly any light and accents the darkness in which we can't see; which also causes the oceans to slop a little over the rims of their bowls so we can get our feet wet; and which always shows one side of its surface to the Earth while the other side is never seen, except by a satellite, of which it is one, forever circling the Earth, baiting men to land on it to see its dust and craters. +++Gravebuster #750. Message # 754. Date: 10/08/92. Time: 19:36:33. Read 31 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : The Obfuscates' Book Of Something To Read Page Five . Message # 756. Date: 10/29/92. Time: 23:59:00. Read 23 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : THE OBFUSCATES BOOK OF SOMETHING TO READ (G.B. YOUR COUNT IS OFF. THIS IS ACTUALLY PAGE 7) [THINGS THAT CAN BE READ IN THE GARAGE.] WE HATE XENOGENESIS DOUBLE GRIP NAILS ..................... NO SEX CAUSES BAD EYES. SMOKE PARTICLE .00025 IN. - HUMAN HAIR .03 IN. - DISK HEAD .00001 IN FOR AMUSEMENT ONLY SPILLS AND SPATTERS DON'T BURN ON. NO WAGERING NO PC SHOULD BE WITHOUT IT NO PRIZES FRESH OIL FAMOUS BRAINS ON DRUGS. ARE YOU STILL HERE? KEEP DIAL A SONG THIS MEDIUM IS CLASSIFIED FROZEN 718-387-6962 CONFIDENTIAL DON'T WORRY IF YOU WORK HARD AND YOUR REWARDS ARE FEW. REMEMBER! THE MIGHTY OAK WAS ONCE A NUT LIKE YOU. THIS CARTON CONTAINS SOME OF THE FINEST ICE CREAM AVAILABLE ANYWHERE. HONK IF YOU LIKE STAR TREK! WHEN SEX IS OUTLAWED... ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE SEX. GROOVE PSYCHOSIS ----- IRATE RADIO 100.3 FM NOVEMBER THIRD IS INDEPENDENT'S DAY. CARE AND HANDLING OF YOUR BALLS...... BUDWEISER WARNING THE SOUND PRESSURE LEVELS IN THIS BUILDING MAY BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR HEARING. WHO SNIFFED MY DINGO? PHREAKERS RU ........ GAV IS DEAD BUT THIS HASN'T CHANGED HIM MUCH SKILLCRAFT VENTURA COUNTY SHERRIF'S DEPARTMENT PRO PUB 2 SMOKE CHART UNATTENDED VEHICLE NOTICE FIEND FOLIO D.C. MILLIAMPERES DOINK! C- - - Message # 757. Reply to #756 Date: 10/31/92. Time: 10:54:57. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : THE OBFUSCATES BOOK OF SOMETHING TO READ RECEIVED No, sorry, but your count is off... Page 1 is message 740 Page 2 is message 742 Page 3 is message 748 Page 4 is message 750 Page 5 is message 754 Page 6 is message 756 (which is your message). You must have got screwed up by Mynk Lynx's reply to page 1. That wasn't a page; that was a reply. Sorry, your royal suckfulness! Anyways, it's a good thing, too, because according to the Quote-O-Matic, a certain phrase needs to appear on page 7. Hence, it's my turn... +++Gravebuster Message # 758. Date: 10/31/92. Time: 10:59:33. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : The Obfuscates' Book Of Something To Read The real page 7... We are all figments of Hack Man's imagination. Our goal is to achieve kumquatment. And DOINK! Do not merely look at glasses that are half-full; also look at glasses that are half-empty as well. Schlabeddy! Anyone interested in a game of tackle volleyball? It rained all night the day I left, The weather it was dry. The sun so hot, I froze to death. Susanna, don't you cry. Oh, Susanna, oh don't you cry for me, For I'm going to Louisiana with A banjo on my knee. NOTICE: APPLICATION FOR ABSENT VOTER BALLOT ENCLOSED. Triangle man always wins. That's supposed to be a wedding vow, not a postal clerk's oath! The last digit of pi is a sacred trust. This means something! +++Gravebuster Message # 759. Date: 11/16/92. Time: 06:11:28. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Sunrise Sermon Mornings inhibit one's ability to awake at a time of one's own choosing. +++Gravebuster Message # 760. Date: 12/24/92. Time: 15:06:15. Read 14 Times. From : Ubik To : YOU! Subj : greetings High! Well, long time no see huh, how have you all been. I've just been busy, thats my only excuse. After a weird and fast summer I got caught up in learning Chineese Medicine (dont ask me to explain) and have been trying to learn three things at once for the last few months. Trying to work too, takes up all my time. I want ti get Chinneese medicine, accupressure, chineese herbology, shiatsu and don kwan do down by spring. Im also trying to work in time to learn to use a new data base program at the same time. So anyway thats where Ive been. In case any of you need my phone number its 647-8370 Do let me know if there are any big events you are up to, I do plan on trying to get out on occasion. So whats new with you guys. Ill try to check back in and see if there are any notes next week. Ill probably just read this board, wont have time for the rest. Gravie, I noticed you just answered some messages I wrote last spring. Thats what I like about you. Time has never been a problem. My problem though is that I cant remember what we were talking about back then. (ye I know I could look back (but Im too busy(there it is again(starting to sound weak isnt it)))). Anyway, leave me a message, I miss you guys, your some of the finest sick minds anywhere. Keep up the good work! UBIK! No Limits! #760. Message # 761. Reply to #760 Date: 12/25/92. Time: 05:32:16. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ubik Subj : greetings RECEIVED My words! He did get my messages! Well, Ubik, I hope you call the board today, because there is a Christmas gathering at the Garage. And maybe, if we're good and obfuscated, Santa Hack will drop by. Who gnows? And the same to you, Gav and Tazz! If you read this message, drop by the Garage after 7pm tonight, 25 Dec 92. +++Gravebuster Message # 762. Date: 12/26/92. Time: 01:23:16. Read 16 Times. From : Cleric Ilsaram To : DOINK Subj : smubject Walking down MELODY LANE, I found that my feet made noises resembling music, but in a rather random fashion. However, it was much less random than that played by a spongy saxophone. Especially when the sax was purple in color. Like you, I would be rather suprised if this were to happen. Since it was happening, not only would I be suprised, but I was suprised. As a matter of fact, at the time that it was happening, not only would I be suprised and was suprised but I am suprised. As a matter or course, or rough, or ruff, as my dog might say, if I had a dog, and if it could talk, and if it could, why would it say something as simple as ruff, when there are so many other complex things to say such as smorgasbord, even if you're not sure how it is spelled. Actually, I'd like to hear somebody sing smorgasbord. It might sound similar to walking down MELODY LANE. Not suprisingly, this has no consequence if you can't hear, read (which is included in seeing, you see (if you can, or course, or will, or ego, or superego, or SubGenius)), or walk (a motor activity). But I digress. I will close with the famous word, PENIS! Message # 763. Reply to #762 Date: 12/26/92. Time: 08:54:08. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Cleric Ilsaram Subj : smubject RECEIVED But how shall we deal with the empathy of cacophany, let alone the cards? +++Gravebuster Message # 764. Reply to #759 Date: 01/16/93. Time: 05:28:06. Read 13 Times. From : YellowBeard To : Gravebuster Subj : Sunrise Sermon RECEIVED Evening sermon: Never let the sun go down on your anger at having to get up with the sun. YB Comments : HAHAHA=100 Message # 765. Date: 01/21/93. Time: 01:46:57. Read 17 Times. From : YellowBeard To : all Subj : nomination?? Hey all, I would like to submit a request to make Arwen an obfuscate. Here are some reasons why: 1. Because. 2. Just because. 3. Eskimos live in igloos. 3.1415927... It's the irrational thing to do. 4. Green is red. 5. She's my wife. 6. It's all one big thing. 7. One false move and the sock gets it! 8. Because my cat is moooing at the door. 9. I have the whole ball of wax. 10. Because David Letterman won't do this top ten list. -- References available upon coercion -- YellowObfuscate Message # 766. Reply to #765 Date: 01/21/93. Time: 05:45:52. Read 20 Times. From : Gravebuster To : YellowBeard Subj : nomination?? RECEIVED I second the nomination, and I would also like to forward Stranger to be considered for obfuscate, and I can't come up with ten reasons, because by the time I write one, it wouldn't be true anymore, which may be all the reason I need to show that he's an obfuscate... +++Gravebuster Message # 767. Date: 01/30/93. Time: 01:40:22. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : The Oracle at Delphi Subj : Fraqctilactic Structures What if ?? no, really...... I have been wodering, and IF you told what IT might be....perhaps.... I would might be able to know then again Message # 768. Reply to #767 Date: 01/30/93. Time: 09:00:25. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Fraqctilactic Structures RECEIVED But then again, and again, which bores me, but not that, if then can be it... +++Gravebuster Message # 770. Date: 02/02/93. Time: 02:43:14. Read 17 Times. From : YellowBeard To : HACK MAN Subj : Obfuscatronix device RECEIVED Hey HM.... I got an idea for yet another obfuscatronix 'device'. This one is in honor of Entropy.... We have random numbers, colors, user names, and screen positions... Now we need random letters as well, and how about something really strange... like a random speed adjust, or something like that? Just more twisted thinking on my part... YellowObfuscate (BTW, for some reason, I can't recall how to use the ^In commmand, I wanted to use it with the random number (^v). DOINK #770. Message # 771. Reply to #763 Date: 02/10/93. Time: 02:58:43. Read 15 Times. From : YellowBeard To : Gravebuster Subj : smubject RECEIVED Nevermind the cards, and spank the dog. Why? Becuase grandma said so, even if the dog did say PENIS, it wouldn't be melodious. YellowBeard - What can I say? It's in the cards. Message # 772. Reply to #771 Date: 02/10/93. Time: 07:54:51. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : YellowBeard Subj : smubject RECEIVED Oh, it's in the cards, huh? Let's see now.... TTTTT H H EEEEE CCC AAA RRRR DDDD SSSS T H H E C C A A R R D D S T HHHHH I EEEEE T C ' AAAAA S RRRR D D SSS T H H E C C A A R R D D S T H H EEEEE CCC A A R R DDDD SSSS My my my, you're right! It's in the cards! +++Gravebuster --==how'd you gnow?==-- Message # 773. Reply to #766 Date: 03/01/93. Time: 20:16:25. Read 16 Times. From : Ubik To : Gravebuster Subj : nomination?? RECEIVED UBIKS VORTEøUEaû Line noise NO! Arwen YES! Stranger YES! for all the same reasons except (or especialy) #5 Message # 774. Reply to #773 Date: 03/05/93. Time: 04:20:58. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ubik Subj : nomination?? RECEIVED Okay, so you agree, and I believe Number Two agrees, and Mynk Lynx agrees that Arwen Undomiel should be an obfuscate but he doesn't gnow about Stranger, and I think YellowBeard agrees. But what really matters is; what does HACK MAN think about making Arwen Undomiel and Stranger obfuscates? +++Gravebuster --==Arwen Undomiel and Stranger for obfuscates!==-- Message # 775. Reply to #774 Date: 03/05/93. Time: 20:35:13. Read 19 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : nomination?? RECEIVED Believe what you will........... as for obfuscation, Stranger does quite a bit more than any of us. except for Lord Scum..... Be Seeing You ?? Message # 776. Reply to #770 Date: 03/07/93. Time: 22:38:36. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : YellowBeard Subj : Obfuscatronix device RECEIVED NO I DON'T THINK ^I^v WILL WORK TOGETHER. THAT'S A SECOND DIMENSION OF OBFUSCATIONAL EXTRAPOLATION AND I DON'T THINK THE BBS PROGRAM COULD HANDLE IT. C- - - Message # 777. Date: 03/07/93. Time: 22:40:43. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : OBFUSCATES I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE SHOULD DO ABOUT THE OBFUSCATES. GIVE ME SOME INPUT HERE. I'D LIKE TO GET MORE PEOPLE INTO THIS THING HERE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE EXCLUSIVITY OF IT EITHER. ONE PART OF ME WANTS TO LET JUST ABOUT ANYBODY IN. IF WE HAD LOTS OF PEOPLE CALLING OTHER BBS'S AND POSTING --==OBFUSCATE==-- AT THE END OF THEIR NAME IT MIGHT ATTRACT MORE POSTERS HERE. BUT, THAT WOULD DILUTE THE WHOLE THING ALSO. IF I WERE GOING TO RECOMMEND ANYBODY FOR ANYTHING I THINK THAT ARWEN AND STRANGER WOULD THE BEST CHOICES. WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK OF THE IDEA OF ACTIVELY USING MULTI LEVELS? WE COULD MAKE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR BECOMING AN OBFUSCATE MUCH EASIER (WHAT REQUIREMENTS?), AND THEN WE COULD MAKE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR BECOMING A DILLUSIONIST HARDER. THEN WE COULD MAKE MOST OR ALL OF THE CURRENT OBFUSCATES INTO DILLUSIONISTS. OR, WE COULD CREATE A THIRD CATAGORY THAT GOES UNDERNEATH BOTH OBFUSCATES AND DILLUSIONISTS. I DUNNO, MAYBE I AM OVERBLOWING THE WHOLE THING INTO RIDUCULOUSNESS. MAYBE EVERYTHING IS FUNDAMENTALLY RIDICULOUS? NEED MORE INPUT!! C- - - Message # 778. Reply to #775 Date: 03/10/93. Time: 01:14:55. Read 20 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : nomination?? RECEIVED Do you support Arwen and Stranger for obfuscates? I thought you said so at the Garage awhile ago. +++Gravebuster --==we need your votes, boufcstase, ebofer veretyihgn egst emssde pu!==-- Message # 779. Date: 03/12/93. Time: 18:57:40. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Subj : It's all one big thing. Message # 780. Reply to #779 Date: 03/13/93. Time: 16:32:47. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : RECEIVED And I do so agree voom #780. Message # 781. Date: 03/13/93. Time: 16:33:52. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two To : Mukor Subj : Votes Stranger = yes Arwen = yes everyone else = yes let's all become obfuscates = yes i'm tired and hungry = yes i'm falling in (censored) = yes she's leaving = yes obfuscate = yes ack = no voom Message # 782. Reply to #777 Date: 03/14/93. Time: 00:04:19. Read 22 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : OBFUSCATES RECEIVED I think that Arwen Undomiel and Stranger should be made obfuscates, regardless the outcome of this convo. I also think that candy should be made an obfuscate. :) I don't think you should hand out --==OBFUSCATE==-- to a whole bunch of people, because then there wouldn't be anything special about it. I don't think there should be any other requirement for someone to be an obfuscate other than the one where you decide that someone should be an obfuscate. By the same token, I don't think that there should be any other requirement for some to be a dillusionist other than the one where Lex Luthor decides who should become a dillusionist. I think that since Lex Luthor came up with that, that he, wherever he is, should be the one to decide who's in or not. In other words, I like the status quo, except I want to change it, which is obfuscated, but yeah! +++Gravebuster --==Arwen Undomiel and Stranger for obfuscate!==-- Message # 783. Date: 03/19/93. Time: 14:59:58. Read 23 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : All Subj : DOINK! Stranger does not equal yes!!!! Stranger is equal to Stranger! Same goes for Arwen!!! Besides, we should be using the "Picard/Q" voting method as we decided to do so long ago. (Who cares if we stole it from the 3AM club... it was the Obfuscate 3AMers that made that one up!) In the "Picard/Q" voting method "Q" equals "Aye" and "Picard" equals "Nay". I knonw it seems backwards, but that is how it is, so live with it! To the question of wether or not Arwen and Stranger are given the priviledge of using the "--==OBFUSCATE==--" signoff, access to this sub-board, and access to Obfuscatronix Instructions I vote Q! I definately vote Picard to any motion that would open up Obfuscates, or make it easier to become one. I would also like to see the implied rule that the user must have been calling for at least a year regularly become a mandatory and unimplied one. Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym p.s. Also, because TMM thinks I should not be an Obfuscate, I will voice my opinion that I think TMM should move to alaska and live with his penguin ancestors! (I also would like to add to the "Picard/Q" voting system... I think we should start using "Borg" as the third possible answer. It should mean that the voter does not want to give an Aye or Nay, but wants to assimilate the whole topic and turn it into what s/he thinks it should be.) Message # 784. Reply to #777 Date: 03/21/93. Time: 03:51:41. Read 17 Times. From : YellowBeard To : HACK MAN Subj : OBFUSCATES RECEIVED I also don't want to lose the exclusivity of it either. If it is made too availible, then it becomes meaningless. It's much better when being an obfuscate has meaning, but no one (except of course an obfuscate that is provided they understand it themselves) quite understands that meaning. (kind of obfuscated, isn't it?) I think the key to choosing who becomes an obfuscate is to remember what has been said about what an obfuscate is. It's a quality that someone has rather than something you work up. People who just act weird, especially because they want to be obfuscates don't deserve it. It has to be natural. I suppose it makes sense that current obfuscates should vote (even if on an informal basis) but I would hope that being an obfuscate will not turn into just another 'elite' thing. Becomming an obfuscate should depend on an inherent quality, not on popularity. I don't gnow if I like Multi-levels. Maybe if you keep Grave Busters idea... Let Lex Luthor decide on who will be a Dillusionist. I used to gnow about that but I forgot. -==Doink==- Yes. Everything is fundamentally ridiculous. (Just don't let it move you to not do ANYTHING) YellowObfuscate Message # 785. Reply to #783 Date: 03/21/93. Time: 08:09:55. Read 22 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Mynk Lynx Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED That's a good suggestion, but it's not a "should." After all, should an obfuscate "should" do anything, or something, or everything, or even nothing for that matter? And even if that matter didn't want anything, or something, or everything, or nothing done, should obfuscates do the things they "should" do? And how should these "should"s be determined? By vote? How should we vote for how we should vote if we don't gnow how we should vote? Besides, I prefer "DOINK!" to Picard or Q... Very good! That's three votes each, HM! I agree with that also! And I prefer to imply that the mandate be regularly called to ply at least one year for every user. However, I disagree with all that, because some users, like Ubik for example, are so obviously obfuscated that a year may be too long to wait to acknowledge their obvious abilities. Penguins lived in Antarctica and on the coasts that border Antarctica, unless you're implying that TMM's penguins have something lacking... That needs to go on the agenda of the next 3AM club. GAVISCON! +++Gravebuster Message # 786. Reply to #783 Date: 03/23/93. Time: 01:07:01. Read 19 Times. From : Number Two To : Mynk Lynx Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Then I immediately vote "Borg" on this topic and all other ones that have come up and/or may come up. So, leave me alone !! Be Borging You ?? Comments : HAHAHA=100 Message # 787. Reply to #786 Date: 03/24/93. Time: 08:00:47. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Alone has left you. Who shall right you. Are you Borged yet? +++Gravebuster Message # 788. Reply to #783 Date: 03/28/93. Time: 00:36:59. Read 16 Times. From : YellowBeard To : Mynk Lynx Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Ok.... Arwen -- Q Stranger -- Q Ack -- Piccard Doink -- Q Open obfuscatism -- Piccard ....YB p.s. doink Message # 789. Reply to #787 Date: 03/29/93. Time: 02:53:17. Read 20 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED --==Borg==-- Be Seeing You ?? Message # 790. Date: 04/01/93. Time: 03:38:32. Read 21 Times. From : Number Two To : ALL Subj : Doink sucks Obfuscation is like breakfast cereal sugary fluffy and bad for your teeth. It's best left out with the other garbage..... Be Seeing You ?? Comments : BOG ME=2323 #790. Message # 791. Date: 04/01/93. Time: 03:40:03. Read 20 Times. From : Number Two To : ALL Subj : And furthermore If it were up to me (and that is pending) I would probably set up guided tours of hell.. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 792. Reply to #789 Date: 04/04/93. Time: 14:34:01. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Sleep... :) +++Gravebuster Message # 793 -- Private. Message # 794. Reply to #793 Date: 04/09/93. Time: 03:23:40. Read 19 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Doink sucks RECEIVED Just maintaining balance. Can't be one thing all of the time.... Be Seeing You ?? Message # 795. Date: 04/09/93. Time: 03:25:04. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two To : ALL Subj : Stukers, Junkas, Messerschmidts At the Appottomax court house in Virginia, many dreams died, and others flourished. oh yeah, that was back in the late 1800's.... Be Seeing You ?? Message # 796. Date: 04/09/93. Time: 03:27:56. Read 22 Times. From : Number Two To : ALL Subj : What was I saying again ?? Just got back from the store with a really big box of chocolate coated, berry Obfuscation cereal... and it wont let you know if it stays crunchy in milk or not... Be Seeing You ?? Message # 797. Reply to #794 Date: 04/14/93. Time: 17:09:03. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Doink sucks RECEIVED Yes, you can't be one thing all of the time, except for those times that you're one thing, but that's another thing, but it relates, because it's all just one big thing... :) +++Gravebuster Message # 798. Reply to #794 Date: 04/15/93. Time: 00:39:29. Read 17 Times. From : YellowBeard To : Number Two Subj : Doink sucks RECEIVED I think sometimes it becomes 3.1415 things... :) YB Message # 799. Reply to #796 Date: 04/15/93. Time: 00:39:50. Read 17 Times. From : YellowBeard To : Number Two Subj : What was I saying again ?? RECEIVED I bet it gets soggy while still in the box! (gross!) YB Message # 800. Reply to #798 Date: 04/19/93. Time: 03:01:18. Read 23 Times. From : Number Two To : YellowBeard Subj : Doink sucks RECEIVED Not me... I'm never anything close to a number that doesn't exist. Be Seeing You ?? #800. Message # 801. Reply to #800 Date: 04/20/93. Time: 16:58:17. Read 21 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Doink sucks RECEIVED Ahhh, I was hoping that you'd change your handle to Number Pi... :) +++GraviePi Message # 802. Date: 04/24/93. Time: 00:05:47. Read 22 Times. From : Stranger To : YOU Subj : UH I thought I'd post something really obfuscatory, but I decided to post this instead. Byebye. Stranger Message # 803. Reply to #692 Date: 04/24/93. Time: 02:12:56. Read 18 Times. From : Stranger To : Ubik Subj : Saints RECEIVED I realize that this message was posted a long time (well, not THIS message, but the one to which I'm (I guess I should have (I hate it when I do this) finished my first thought before I interjected paranthetically) replying) ago, but I like the idea. I propose as a Saint of Obfuscation, William S. Burroughs. Stranger Stranger Message # 804. Date: 04/24/93. Time: 04:59:50. Read 22 Times. From : Stranger To : all Subj : um, a query Has anybody else noticed how similar the word elvis is to penis? Stranger Message # 805. Reply to #802 Date: 04/25/93. Time: 02:25:37. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : UH RECEIVED Well, then, stop making decisions when you're trying to think!... +++Gravebuster Message # 806. Reply to #804 Date: 04/25/93. Time: 02:25:59. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : um, a query RECEIVED That would only be a valid comparison if, by the same coincidence, Elvis' real name was Richard... +++Gravebuster Message # 807. Date: 04/26/93. Time: 22:39:10. Read 21 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : All Here? Subj : Wow! Now say it backwards.... wow! Um, what am I doing with access to this board? If anything is obfuscated, it's me being here! Oh well, Doink? Comments : RASPBERRYS=1 Message # 808. Reply to #802 Date: 04/27/93. Time: 02:58:51. Read 20 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : UH RECEIVED Congrats, and something else. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 809. Reply to #807 Date: 04/27/93. Time: 02:59:51. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : Wow! RECEIVED What he just said one post ago.... Be Seeing You ?? Message # 811. Date: 04/28/93. Time: 03:56:51. Read 18 Times. From : Stranger To : all Subj : obfuscatronix So far, my tries at obfuscatronix have been irritating and unsuccessful, I think....(I was able to get a DOINK sound....) I have been trying to get the control p thing..(pause) but it hasn't been working right. I'm not sure if we're left to our own devices with this, or if we're allowed help, but here's what I tried to do: ESC X CTRL-P S CTRL-P T CTRL-P R etc etc... (without the spaces...) and it hasn't excatly been working... Stranger, the duly Obfuscated (DOINK) (DOINK) (DOINK) Message # 812 -- Private. Message # 813. Reply to #719 Date: 05/01/93. Time: 14:14:53. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Unka Buck Subj : Ruin... Only when obfuscated! Message # 814. Reply to #783 Date: 05/01/93. Time: 14:22:43. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Mynk Lynx Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Ferengi on you for such a suggestion ! The penguins were conmpletely Worfed by my Federation of their Sector. Since their Universe was so Cardassian, I was, well, Shaka when the walls came down. It was totally Me and the Penguins at Tanagra, so I Weseley Crushered all over their igloos, and went on Leave. Tasha Yar any changes in obfuscate status! Comments : DOINK=42 Message # 815. Reply to #785 Date: 05/01/93. Time: 14:29:30. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED I should point out at this point that the point you were making about the various points of penguin populations point to the conclusion that penguins gnow well enough to check their point of existence in an atlas, which at this point I have yet to observe, since the average penguin sees no point in reading an atlass, since they cannot read. Therefore, the average penguin would not only not gnow that they do not live in alaska, they would most certainly not gnow that they do in fact live in the antarctica viscinity of the world, but either way, they don't care. I gnow. I asked them. They made me explain. It wasn't easy. I had to teach them English first. Then I have to teach them the concept of existence. I never got beyond the birds and the bees. They were certain that they were bees. And they thought they lived on a great flower. And the snow was pollen. they were never able to create honey. The concept baffled them. I'm not allowed to visit the antarctica region ever again. The bees will sting me if I do. Message # 816. Date: 05/01/93. Time: 14:43:42. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Whomever Subj : David Karesh ?suseJ saw yllaer eh fi tahW Message # 817. Reply to #785 Date: 05/02/93. Time: 22:19:43. Read 14 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Gravebuster Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED No, only Opus' relatives live in Antarctica. TMM's penguin relations aren't nearly so remote. Get it strait! As in Bering... Message # 818. Reply to #782 Date: 05/02/93. Time: 22:20:11. Read 16 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Gravebuster Subj : OBFUSCATES RECEIVED From a side door, two elderly men step from the shadows. One looks to be a little narrow at the eyes, and since he doesn't speak, one may think him to be a little light in the head. The other, a rather portly fellow, looks as though he would make a good grandfather (as apposed to a GREAT-grandfather). The portly gentleman speaks: "We are relating this message from Arwen Undomiel. Thanx for your support!" Message # 819. Reply to #796 Date: 05/02/93. Time: 22:20:41. Read 18 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Number Two Subj : What was I saying again ?? RECEIVED God, I HATE when that happens! Especially when it won't let you talk on the phone for a few minutes without wilting. You would think, wouldn't you?, that it could just float leisurely around the bowl until you get done, instead of coming to pieces and disintegrating to mush... Cereal revenge... "Eat ME will you..." Message # 820. Reply to #809 Date: 05/03/93. Time: 02:40:57. Read 16 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Number Two Subj : Wow! RECEIVED Why Thank You! I guess you will be seeing me here more often. I guess, I think, I am Obfuscated at the prospect of being an Obfuscate. Well, I guess it is a doinkiferous day, a day to be celebrated! Let's go out for pizza! Yes of course, that is the only proper response. One must go and consume large quantities of pizza in a celebratory gesture of Obfuscatedness! Doink! Doinks, all around! Arwen Undomiel -=OBFUSCATE=- (has a nice ring to it...) #820. Message # 821. Date: 05/04/93. Time: 03:09:42. Read 21 Times. From : Stranger To : Hack Subj : uh Last night, I was talking to someone named Lance ( I think his last name was Crane), and he said he was an old BBSer. I asked him if he ever called the Retreat, and he said yes, that he used to hang out with you, Hack. His handle, he says, was Time Keeper. Then he told me that he was an Obfuscate!! Is this true??? I thought I gnew who all the Obfuscates were. Stranger Message # 822. Reply to #801 Date: 05/05/93. Time: 02:14:22. Read 13 Times. From : YellowBeard To : Gravebuster Subj : Doink sucks RECEIVED But Gravie... That would only make him Irrational... Maybe he could try a nice Imaginary number? YellowSquareRootOfMinusOne (Moose Umpteen) Message # 823. Date: 05/05/93. Time: 02:25:17. Read 16 Times. From : YellowBeard To : all Subj : Obfuscation Report Last night Arwen and I went into town to have pizza as a celabration for her becoming an obfuscate. I told her she had to obfuscate a stranger... So when the girl at the pizza place came up... "What can I get you tonight?" She asked. "We'd like a Super-Supreme Pan Pizza with Kumquats on it please." Arwen replies. "Uh, Pardon me?..." The girl looked absolutely dumbfounded... (YellowBeard just Laughs...) YellowBeard --== Obfuscation Report ==-- Message # 824. Date: 05/05/93. Time: 02:26:01. Read 15 Times. From : YellowBeard To : all Subj : obfuscation reports ATTENION!! AUCTUNG!! I'd like to motion that from now forward, when each of us sees an obfuscation taking place, or when we successfully obfuscate the unwary, We the Obfuscatates must file an Obfuscation Report. that is all YellowCommunicationsOfficer Message # 825. Reply to #823 Date: 05/06/93. Time: 00:05:28. Read 13 Times. From : Stranger To : YellowBeard Subj : Obfuscation Report RECEIVED I thought she was supposed to obfuscate a Stranger?? I guess that's a pretty demanding demand, since i live so far away, but she could try it over the BBS. That poor PizzaGirl.... Stranger Message # 826. Reply to #807 Date: 05/07/93. Time: 03:48:14. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : Wow! RECEIVED Why, it's obvious that you are umming with access to this board. That's what you did, at least. Anyone can see that, although I can't comment about everyone, especially since everyone isn't here to defend everyone. And anything is quite obfuscated, if not bewildered and befogged. Take it from me, and scare the Knights of Nee... +++Gravebuster Message # 827. Reply to #823 Date: 05/09/93. Time: 22:05:13. Read 13 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : YellowBeard Subj : Obfuscation Report RECEIVED Yes, but YB fails to point out that he sat there with his mouth agape, fighting chuckles, and obviously obfuscated himself. She really got giggly when I asked her a side order of kumquats. When I started acting like I was totally put out that Pizza Hut wasn't thoughtful enough to put kumquats on their menu, she RAN off laughing, and people in the back started to come out to see what the wackos looked like. We/she made it a running joke as the evening went on... Arwen -=OBFUSCATE=- Message # 828. Reply to #821 Date: 05/09/93. Time: 22:05:38. Read 13 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Stranger Subj : uh RECEIVED Wow! You met TimeKeeper? How is he? Is he still tall? I thought that I had met you, Stranger, at the same pizza party that I met him. We did renditions of "Spam" and other Monty Python songs and skits. I haven't heard from/of him in such a long time. We all went back to the Retreat and rolled pennies around the inside of some strange concavity, while Racer X sat around, wishing that we would let him smoke in the Garage. If you happen to see him again, please give him regards from YB and myself. If you need for me to ship the regards to you, let me gnow. Message # 829. Reply to #826 Date: 05/14/93. Time: 02:59:54. Read 15 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Gravebuster Subj : Wow! RECEIVED Umming? Hmmm.... I'm not really sure of the 'umming' part. Thrilled, bloated, ego-boosted, yes... but I think it is closer to 'Hmmmm-ing', as in "Hmmmm..." You haven't learned yet to capitalize 'it' to "It"... if you had, I would be glad to take "It" from you, though I'm not quite sure I gnow what "It" is in this case, and scare the Knights of Nee with "It"... Now, if the "It" your thinking of is Stephen King's "It", "it" is a distinct possibility that the Knights would be afraid, or at least obfuscated by "It". Good Luck... and Doink Message # 830. Reply to #815 Date: 05/15/93. Time: 16:17:49. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED The penguins might not consult atlases, but that does not mean you are absolved of your misguided attempt to explain to them in English the birds and the bees, and thus you deserve your banishment from the Antarctic, although I'm sure that penguins would gnow when they leave their climatic zones if they attempt the journey to Alaska, because penguins obviously speak penguinese, not English, and they obviously haven't seen many if any bees, and besides it's so cold down there that you'd be better off obfuscating the penguins at Sea World, because then the penguins will decide that things are a little too hot and un-snowish and decide to turn back, and if you think English is muddle, then I suggest penguinese, and besides, they have no problem with copulation, so why bother with needless explanations, so why don't you enjoy yourself here or in Hawaii like you've always threatened to do. +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- #830. Message # 831. Reply to #816 Date: 05/15/93. Time: 16:18:26. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : David Karesh RECEIVED I'd say that DK got it all backwards, so you question is aptly put. +++Gravebuster Message # 832. Reply to #821 Date: 05/15/93. Time: 16:18:48. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : uh RECEIVED No, Timekeeper wasn't an obfuscate, but he did call the Retreat about two years ago, and I wish he would call back. He was great on the Music Board. +++Gravebuster Message # 833. Reply to #824 Date: 05/15/93. Time: 16:19:12. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : YellowBeard Subj : obfuscation reports RECEIVED Well I would file a report except I have yet to port so how can I report and if I were to report how could I file the report since I don't even gnow how to port in the first place so I wouldn't be able to file the report and why don't you want me to file the port do you have something against ports what did ports ever do to you you gnow you're very infuriating when it comes to asking for things you never explain yourself how are we supposed to follow what you say and why should we follow what you say who put you in charge why should we do anything you say we should do I'm so mad now that I'm gonna file a report on you +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 834. Reply to #777 Date: 05/17/93. Time: 19:16:32. Read 13 Times. From : Ubik To : HACK MAN Subj : OBFUSCATES RECEIVED Three thoughts. 1. Most secret societies have Outer orders that conseal inner orders. Like Argent aAgstrom(or whatever) being the inner order of the Golden Dawn. 2. Could open up a whole new battle of blubberilnsgs (I wanna be a delusionist, how come he is and I'm not?????? Wah Wah Wah Wah............. 3. Of course everything is rediculous. Why else would it still be entertaining to us. 4. Im only two 1/2 months behind with this reply. Could be worse I guess. Ubik never could count Message # 835. Reply to #803 Date: 05/17/93. Time: 19:27:49. Read 14 Times. From : Ubik To : Stranger Subj : Saints RECEIVED OOOOHHHHH!!!!!! Yes! Good Choice. I Like that. I had a really good one a fwew months ago but I've forgotten. Maybe it will return to me. Ubik Message # 836. Reply to #807 Date: 05/17/93. Time: 19:30:10. Read 14 Times. From : Ubik To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : Wow! RECEIVED Hey this is fun. You obviously fell thgrough the same door I did We all did I guess. Weird to see someone else reexperiencing your own initial confusion though. Ubik Message # 837. Reply to #821 Date: 05/19/93. Time: 23:40:40. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Stranger Subj : uh RECEIVED He was right! Message # 838. Reply to #824 Date: 05/19/93. Time: 23:43:17. Read 13 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : YellowBeard Subj : obfuscation reports RECEIVED ObfudsAHHHHHH!!! I hate apples!!!! OBFUSCATION REPORTS?!?!?!?!?!? Never! Message # 839. Reply to #828 Date: 05/19/93. Time: 23:48:33. Read 12 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : uh RECEIVED I remember that one! Everybody brought a spatula! Message # 840. Reply to #830 Date: 05/19/93. Time: 23:50:33. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Well, my threats have worn thin, except with the penguins. They still give credibility to them. For instance, I warned them of the coming of the great killer bees, which they accepted whole hartedly. I must admit, I was a bit surprised when they erected a statue to the great killer bees, and now it has become gnown to me that they intend to take over the world with the aid of the great ones, as they call them, and await their arival with great trepidation. They say it was written in the scriptures. When I asked to see the scriptures, they gave me a photocopy of a gum wrapper with a little bit of scribbling on it. They say it is in ancient "penglingo" as they call it, and that I wouldn't understand. They were write. sort of... #840. Message # 841. Reply to #829 Date: 05/20/93. Time: 13:41:44. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : Wow! RECEIVED Yes, you most definitely ummed. You didn't hmm, because if you hmmed, you would have hmmed, but instead you ummed, which means you were umming, and you were umming with access to this board at that. Absolutely preposterous, I must say, but I won't, unless I did, but then that's an entirely different matter. Now if I wanted to refer to Stephen King's "It," I would have capitalized the "i," and for good measure, I would have at least watched the movie if not read the book, and since I don't like Stephen King that much, either movies or books, I doubt I would do that so I shall not refer to Stephen King's "It" unless I do so. And the Knights of Nee are more scary than It. What? I capitalized It! What? I capitalized It again! I capitalized It again! AARRRGGGGHHH!! +++Gravebuster Message # 842. Reply to #832 Date: 05/21/93. Time: 01:21:27. Read 18 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : uh RECEIVED Correction. He was an obfuscate on gnome's castle. Message # 843. Reply to #840 Date: 05/21/93. Time: 01:23:46. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED And another things, I vehemently oppose the introduction of new obfuscates into the temple for the following reasons: And if those aren't good enough for you, I can come up with an infinite amount more of them, give or take a couple. Since I oppose change I will respond through boycotting the board. Shame, shame, shame! No more mister nice guy! From here on in, I shal call every day, and post in my normal style (of the past) ! That will teach you obfuscanimals to mess with a dillusionist! And then, I will call my hoard of penguins onto the board, secretly replacing the newfuscates with penguin personalities of comparable dispositions (I gnow your passwords!), and then they will bring down the board in a flurry of obfuscation and dillusion, blowing the newfuscates right out of towne. Then I will give the penguins access to the hard disk, and they will copy their ancient penglistics onto the drive a minimum of one million to the PIth power, thus obfuscating the board further (they're doing the math right now!) And THEN, I will stop calling again.....but only after everyone else starts calling again, at which point the penguic cycle will continue until the newfuscates are forever banished from the temple! And if that doesn't work, then I think I'll just eat a pickle. The Music Man -=obfuscate=- **ANTI-JERK** +Pizza Lover+ <> Et Cetarum Ix On second thought, I think I'll just skip right to the pickle part.... Message # 844. Date: 05/21/93. Time: 01:35:07. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Whomever Subj : RECEIVED ....but, what about the newfuscate problem? Message # 845. Reply to #844 Date: 05/21/93. Time: 01:40:07. Read 14 Times. From : Whomever To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : RECEIVED Why are you asking me? I don't care! LEAVE ME ALONE! STOP POSTING TO ME ALL THE TIME!!!!!!!!!!! Message # 846. Reply to #840 Date: 05/21/93. Time: 11:45:39. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Well, I guess threats must occasionally wear thick, and if they have to wear thick, then they should wear thick with the penguins, and speaking of thick penguins, did you gnow I visited the Antarctic one summer, and I was chewing gum, and I wrote down a very clever idea for a story on a gum wrapper, and the wind blew it out of my hands, and a bunch of penguins made off with it! Now I can't remember what the idea was anymore. Watch for that gum wrapper, will ya? On second thought, forget it. It's too hard to read my writing anyway. Besides, it was crazy enough coming across a bunch of misguided ostriches at the time. What do penguins have to do with ostriches anyway? Could it have been the "who needs flying" convention? Did you say something about thick penguins? +++Gravebuster Message # 847. Reply to #816 Date: 05/22/93. Time: 04:06:35. Read 12 Times. From : YellowBeard To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : David Karesh RECEIVED !egassem lanimilbus a ,ho hU draeBwolleY Message # 848. Reply to #846 Date: 05/22/93. Time: 12:04:38. Read 13 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED You haven't consumed moldy rye lately, have you? Message # 849. Reply to #847 Date: 05/22/93. Time: 12:05:27. Read 13 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : YellowBeard Subj : David Karesh .nevaeh otni dednecsa eH yas emoS ....mmmmmmMMMMH Message # 850. Reply to #842 Date: 05/22/93. Time: 22:21:45. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : uh RECEIVED At the original Gnome's Castle, I understood that many users were under the mistaken belief that just because they could access the obfuscates subboard, that made them obfuscates. HM has always decided who is and is not an obfuscate, and he doesn't remember making Timekeeper an obfuscate. +++Gravebuster #850. Message # 851. Reply to #848 Date: 05/23/93. Time: 07:51:14. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED In fact, the ostriches pointed out the vast quantities of rye that the penguins consumed, and cautioned me not to eat any; ergo, since I'm an ergogenic ergophile in an ergonomic ergosphere, ergotism would be ergonomically ergasthenic as the ergons required would enervate this ergates. So I posted signs all about with the slogan, "Say Nyet To Ergot," which the penguins completely misconstrued because of your failed attempt to teach them English. They instead started to listen to Barbra Streisand records, can you believe that? Of course, the emus and geckos thought it was all such fun. +++Gravebuster Message # 852. Reply to #849 Date: 05/23/93. Time: 07:51:45. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : David Karesh RECEIVED .did eh ,yaw a nI ....noitullop eht rof naidivaD hcnarB etic dlouhs APE eht dnA retsubevarG+++ --==sdrawkcab lla ti tog yeht yas llits I==-- Message # 853. Reply to #791 Date: 05/25/93. Time: 08:36:45. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Number Two Subj : And furthermore RECEIVED WELL, I DUNNO ABOUT HELL. BUT WE COULD PROBABLY GET THE AMERICAN ROCKET COMPANY HERE IN THE AREA TO SHOOT YOU TO VENUS. THAT'S CLOSE ENOUGH. BUT DRESS LIGHTLY, IT'S ALWAYS SUMMER ON VENUS. IF YOU WANT I'LL GIVE YOU A WEATHER REPORT. C- - - Message # 854. Reply to #804 Date: 05/25/93. Time: 08:41:51. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : um, a query RECEIVED EVILS = ELVIS + LEVIS C- - - Message # 855. Reply to #821 Date: 05/25/93. Time: 08:46:20. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : uh RECEIVED YES. NO. C- - - Message # 856. Reply to #834 Date: 05/25/93. Time: 08:50:02. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Ubik Subj : OBFUSCATES RECEIVED UBIK CALLED. IF THERE WERE INNER ORDERS AS YOU DESCRIBE THEN OF COURSE I COULDN'T TELL YOU ABOUT THEM. HOWEVER, I'LL TAKE IT UNDER ADVISEMENT AND GET BACK TO YOU WHEN THE TIME IS APPROPRIATE. C- - - P.S. IF YOU SHOULD HAPPEN TO SEE THE EMBLEM OF A 4 DIMENSIONAL HYPERCUBE WITH A PENGUIN EYE STARING OUT OF IT, I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. Message # 857. Reply to #842 Date: 05/25/93. Time: 08:55:40. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : uh RECEIVED SINCE WHEN? C- - - Message # 859. Reply to #850 Date: 05/25/93. Time: 08:59:08. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : uh RECEIVED ACTUALLY I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER TIMEKEEPER EVER CALLING GNOME'S CASTLE. BUT MAYBE THAT'S JUST BECAUSE THE NORTH BY NORTHEAST LOBE OF MY BRAIN BLEW OUT. I WISH I HAD MORE GNOMES CASTLE MESSAGES ON DISK, THE MEAGER SUPPLY THAT I HAVE IS ALREADY IN THE TEXT DOWNLOAD AREA. I WISH I COULD FIND LORD CIRDAN, HE ONCE PROMISED TO GIVE ME A COPY OF ALL THE MESSAGES FROM THE DAY THAT THE BBS WENT DOWN, BUT NOW I CAN'T EVEN LOCATE THE DUDE. C- - - Message # 860. Reply to #850 Date: 05/25/93. Time: 12:23:12. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : uh RECEIVED In actuality, Hack Man was never an obfuscate. He was able to brainwash us all through sublimination when we called his board, and now we only THINK he was an obfuscate, when in fact, he was just a wannabe. Of course, this message won't last for very long. It is clear that my programming has slipped, and he'll have to start all over again, and erase all of the revealing messages which I am about to #860. Message # 861. Reply to #851 Date: 05/25/93. Time: 12:26:15. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED What's a penguin? Message # 862. Reply to #852 Date: 05/25/93. Time: 12:27:23. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : David Karesh RECEIVED I hereby nominate David Karesh to be an obfuscate! Message # 863. Reply to #857 Date: 05/25/93. Time: 12:29:03. Read 12 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : uh RECEIVED Since just after I had been declared one. Message # 864. Reply to #859 Date: 05/25/93. Time: 12:29:53. Read 12 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : uh RECEIVED He is at an 80 year seminar with the penguins. Message # 865. Reply to #853 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 00:10:53. Read 16 Times. From : Number Two To : HACK MAN Subj : And furthermore RECEIVED Yes, weather report please. What I had in mind was like Jurassic Park, but using hell instead of Dinosaurs. Of course, I'd prefer to set up a lucrative travel arrangement with Satan, and use the real hell. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 866. Reply to #843 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 02:04:05. Read 14 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Your objections are weak, at best! Does this make you a dissillusioned dissillusionist? Ha! Oh nO! Does this mean that you will be calling MORE OFTEN?! Big Toe protect us! Oh Big Toe! Not MORE ONE-LINERS! Help! We're doomed!! replacing gnow Would it really be that easy to replace me (newfuscate) with a penguin? How depressing. HM, can't you just imagine this otherwise? Imagine the penguins elsewhere, elsewhere and otherwise.... Well, if you don't have any pickles, can I interest you in a few semi-green bananas? Arwen Idiot/Newfuscate (sob... to be so CATagorized...) Message # 867. Reply to #836 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 02:04:46. Read 13 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Ubik Subj : Wow! RECEIVED Yeah, now I just have to find that white rabbit again... has anyone seen it? Message # 868. Reply to #841 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 02:05:11. Read 14 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Gravebuster Subj : Wow! RECEIVED I have a very important question: Do my lips move when I ummm? Am I really making any sounds at all, or is it all a motion of hands, or body language? Well, I guess that that was more than one question, but it doesn't make the original question (or the one's following it for that matter) any less important. So answer it! Me! I mean, answer the question that I have posed to you! Do it! And I don't care if you capitalize it or not!!!! Message # 869. Reply to #860 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 10:41:13. Read 12 Times. From : HACK MAN To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : uh RECEIVED ACTUALLY, IF I WAS ABLE TO DO THAT THEN I REALLY WOULD BE MORE OF AN OBFUSCATE THAN I AM. AND IF YOU BELIEVE ME NOW, THEN YOU ARE TRULY OBFUSCATED. AND IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME THEN YOU ARE MERELY OBFUSCATED IN THE WAY WHICH I ORIGINALLY INTENDED. OR IS IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND? WAIT A MINUTE, I THINK I MIGHT BE OBFUSCATING MYSELF AGAIN. C- - - P.S. I'LL BE OVER THERE TO REPROGRAM YOU AS SOON AS I CAN LOCATE THE PROPER SIZED NEGATIVE EPS FLOW COUPLING. (OOPS THE STAR TREK AND STAR WARS TERMINOLOGY HAS BECOME SCRAMBLED INTO MY BRAIN.) Message # 870. Reply to #861 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 10:47:09. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED WHAT ISN'T A PENGUIN? C- - - #870. Message # 871. Reply to #862 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 10:47:46. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : David Karesh RECEIVED WHICH KIND OF OBFUSCATE? EXTRA CRISPY OR BARBEQUE STYLE? C- - - Message # 872. Reply to #865 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 10:49:08. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Number Two Subj : And furthermore RECEIVED WELL, LET'S SEE....... RIGHT NOW IT'S CLOUDY AND 900 DEGREES. BUT THAT MIGHT CHANGE BY THE TIME YOU READ THIS. NOT! C- - - Message # 874. Reply to #866 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 10:55:03. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED WELL, PERSONALLY I LIKE HAVING YOU AROUND. HOWEVER, IT WOULD BE A VERY INTERESTING EXPERIMENT TO REPLACE YOU WITH A PENGUIN. I'M SURE THAT YELLOWBEARD WOULD HAVE A VERY OBFUSCATED CHILD COME AUGUST. IMAGINE, HALF OBFUSCATE AND HALF PENGUIN. THAT MIGHT BE THE PENULTIMATE OBFUSCATE, THE MUAD-DOINK. C- - - Message # 875. Reply to #865 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 17:44:36. Read 13 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Number Two Subj : And furthermore RECEIVED That can be arranged... Message # 876. Reply to #866 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 17:45:34. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED AAAHHHHH! You subliminalized the word "C-A-T" into your message!!!! HOW DARE YOU!!! YES! MORE ONE LINERS!!! AHHHHH HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! AND THEN.... I'll stop calling again. Until the next day. Message # 877. Reply to #869 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 17:47:56. Read 13 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : uh RECEIVED My programming has strayed too off course. You'll never gain control again! Now I shal imagine you into oblivion, once I figure out how to decipher these imagination manuals. I think they were translated in Japan! The english just does not make sense. THe verb tense is all obfuscated, which is just what I might have expected from you, but I have connections. The penguins keep me well informed through means you have yet to remember that you imagined. We have been successful in subverting the dominant paradigm. All we have to do is figure out what a paradigm is, and we'll be set. As for you, BINK! Message # 878. Reply to #870 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 17:52:41. Read 12 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Everything that is not penguins. The question is, what IS penguins? Message # 879. Reply to #871 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 17:53:40. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : David Karesh RECEIVED Well, since he is now with BOB (Ha, the jokes on Karesh) we could pretty much refer to him as a bobfuscate. An amateur bobfuscate. Message # 880. Reply to #872 Date: 05/26/93. Time: 17:55:10. Read 13 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : And furthermore RECEIVED Sometimes you act just like a knobfuscate. #880. Message # 881. Date: 05/26/93. Time: 17:57:33. Read 13 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Subj : RECEIVED Stick your finger in your ear and turn around twice, the day of dillusion is at hand! Message # 882. Reply to #856 Date: 05/27/93. Time: 03:55:22. Read 13 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : OBFUSCATES RECEIVED ...oh no, Hack's been reading the Illuminatus! Trilogy..... :) Stranger I feel slightly immaterial right now...I wonder if I drank too much pepsi... Message # 883. Reply to #874 Date: 05/27/93. Time: 04:01:37. Read 16 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED No, I'm the penultimate Obfuscate, at least until a new person is abducted. Then, Arwen will be the penultimate Obfuscate, unless there are multiple people abducted. Stranger The Librarian (Oh GB--an idea for my DreamCoat: howabout an option on the dreamcoat pull- down menu for an online dictionary?) Message # 884. Reply to #883 Date: 05/27/93. Time: 12:00:35. Read 17 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Stranger Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Be careful, you might get slobfuscated! Message # 885. Reply to #884 Date: 05/27/93. Time: 16:01:14. Read 14 Times. From : Stranger To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED That would, indeed, be horrible. Stranger (Not that I have any idea whatsoever what you're talking about, but I'm not meant to, am I?) Message # 886. Reply to #885 Date: 05/28/93. Time: 23:54:01. Read 13 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Stranger Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Only if your mind is robfuscated. Message # 887. Date: 05/29/93. Time: 03:21:40. Read 21 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : STPLYWIN Subj : In the Out For a Walk to Mars PERMIFIED Some think of you as a figment of the all-knowing one of complete and utter cow tipping fun and games being programmed for you pleasure and money I never saw until today when I got the mail goes almost everywhere in the world we live in sometimes loses control key for a modified list of commands that the general gave to the pions made in america is really not very useful at all these days keep running together again and again I try to compile this code words are so fun to throw together into piles of leaves often get buries in the snow covered mountain tops of california free state you opinion now or forever and ever be lost in space the final fronteerland is kinda boringnow that is a silly question authority to rule on this subject to change without notice that the pretty ball flew out of the park your car near the tree houses can get really messy if you forget this I'm going. Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym p.s. Go to the store rooms that are clean your ears work ok as long as you don't introduce me to that lovely lady bugs are a pain to programmers. Comments : OBFUSCATED=142 Message # 888. Reply to #881 Date: 05/30/93. Time: 20:26:21. Read 13 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : RECEIVED is If I do that, I will get dizzy and fall. Will that bring me closer to dillusional fulfillment? Prove this to me, I am hungry for the truth. Are you the Messiah of Dillusion? Arwen Naive -=Newfuscate=- Message # 889. Reply to #880 Date: 05/30/93. Time: 20:26:38. Read 13 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : And furthermore RECEIVED That's Doink-knobfuscate, to you... Message # 890. Reply to #874 Date: 05/30/93. Time: 20:26:57. Read 11 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : HACK MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Why, thank you for the compliment, especially since you imagined me. Now wait just a penguin-gone minute... I have questions. If I am replaced, regardless of who or what replaces me, what happens to me? Am I than relegated to a different portion of your imagination? Do I get DOINKED! over to the Antarctica or something? Forced to live a penguins life of umming over some semi-scribbled religious document, waiting for the coming of the killer bees? Imagine it, Oh Doinkiferous One, and it shall come to pass. I am only a figment. Do with me what you will... (sob) Arwen En Gravida La Hormonale -=Newfuscate Expendable=- #890. Message # 891. Reply to #876 Date: 05/30/93. Time: 20:27:25. Read 14 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED It took a lot of guts, I'll tell you. CAT guts. I'm playing your song "Poor Poor Pitiful Cat" on my miniature violin, strung with imitation CAT gut strings. My fingers hesitated, only briefly before the onslaught of my previous post, and then I just gave them free rein, and you have been STRUCK (ugh!) with the results... I gnew that. Does this mean that you are finally becoming semi-prediCTAble? Message # 892. Reply to #883 Date: 05/30/93. Time: 20:27:49. Read 12 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Stranger Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Who abducts us into Penultimate-ness? Just Curious.... Arwen En Gravida La Curiousa Message # 893. Reply to #882 Date: 05/30/93. Time: 20:28:06. Read 11 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Stranger Subj : OBFUSCATES RECEIVED It's only a problem if you are drinking Clear Pepsi... there is nothing there to enhance you material materials... Message # 894. Reply to #892 Date: 05/31/93. Time: 02:22:56. Read 11 Times. From : Stranger To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Uh, well, Hack Man. You, being the last Obfuscate to be ab/inducted, are the ultimate Obfuscate, while I, having been made an Obfuscate moments before you, am second to last--the penultimate. Stranger (When the next obfuscate is made, you'll be second to last.) Message # 895. Reply to #872 Date: 06/01/93. Time: 06:14:04. Read 11 Times. From : Number Two To : HACK MAN Subj : And furthermore RECEIVED Thanx..... but, Be Seeing You ?? Message # 896. Reply to #879 Date: 06/01/93. Time: 06:15:18. Read 12 Times. From : Number Two To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : David Karesh RECEIVED Joke Potato !! Joke's on you...... Be Seeing You ?? Message # 897. Reply to #887 Date: 06/01/93. Time: 06:17:36. Read 16 Times. From : Number Two To : Mynk Lynx Subj : In the Out For a Walk to Mars RECEIVED Hooray! I knew that once you got into No. California that yu would start smoking Marijuana. I just knew it. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 898. Date: 06/01/93. Time: 06:18:47. Read 13 Times. From : Number Two To : Mr. Dobbs esq. Subj : Oh nothing ob - isn't that a feminine hygiene product? fus - as in making a fus(s) cat - no explanations neccessary ed - everybody knows ed Your Pal 2 Message # 899. Reply to #888 Date: 06/01/93. Time: 14:09:01. Read 11 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : RECEIVED I don't think I am, which probably means I am. Oh dear, what has HM imagined this time! Wait, I need to put my finger in my ear and spin around.... ....whoa!....Dillusion..... Message # 900. Reply to #890 Date: 06/01/93. Time: 14:11:42. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED I was wondering about that! There was this penguin named arwen, always telling me to use my imagination. I never gnew what it meant. It was the only one I ever met with red hair though. #900. Message # 901. Reply to #891 Date: 06/01/93. Time: 14:13:45. Read 16 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED My brain doesn't subliminalize mixed up letters, it's immune to that and all other forms of doinknobfuscation! You're going to be a penguin some day! I know, I met you! Message # 902. Reply to #896 Date: 06/01/93. Time: 14:15:44. Read 15 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Number Two Subj : David Karesh RECEIVED I'm not David Karesh, I TELL YOU!! I'M SOMEBODY ELSE!!!!! Message # 903. Reply to #887 Date: 06/01/93. Time: 21:30:44. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Mynk Lynx Subj : In the Out For a Walk to Mars RECEIVED I COULDN'T AGREE MORE! C- - - Message # 905. Reply to #894 Date: 06/01/93. Time: 21:41:28. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED GOOD TRY.. BUT EVERYBODY GNOWS YOU MUST HAVE PENGUIN HERITAGE TO BE PENULTIMATE. C- - - Message # 907. Reply to #890 Date: 06/01/93. Time: 21:48:18. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED NO, I THINK YOU WOULD BECOME A CHARACTER IN A BOOK. I WOULD JUST SWAP YOU WITH ANY SUITABLE PENGUIN CHARACTER. I GNOW OPUS. HMM. I THINK OPUS IS A MALE. SO, YOU WOULD HAVE TO BECOME A MALE HUMAN CHARTOON CHARACTER IN ORDER TO BALANCE THINGS OUT. WE MUSTN'T VIOLATE THE LAW OF CONSERVATION OF IMAGINATION. BUT, LOOK ON THE POSITIVE SIDE, YOU WOULD HAVE YOUR OWN CARTOON STRIP. C- - - Message # 908. Reply to #901 Date: 06/01/93. Time: 21:48:56. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED UH OH. TMM HAS USED THE POWER OF DILLUSION AND HAS SEEN A TRULY OBFUSCATED VISION. AND THERE'S NOT MUCH YOU CAN SAY ABOUT THAT. C- - - Comments : WAY!=1 Message # 909. Reply to #908 Date: 06/02/93. Time: 08:40:23. Read 14 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED I also gnow that you are going to be a pickle some day, I gnow, I met you as a pickle in the past. Message # 910. Date: 06/02/93. Time: 23:04:37. Read 18 Times. From : Ubik To : YOU! Subj : NOTICE I've headrd that HACK MAN has been saying that I've been calling. I want you all to know that that is simply not terue>. I' Dont know why he has been saying this but I can Assure you all that I have NOT called. Ubik (solomnly) #910. Message # 911. Reply to #910 Date: 06/03/93. Time: 15:30:37. Read 13 Times. From : The Asshole To : Ubik Subj : NOTICE Neither am I. Instead, I'm suffering my pennance. Message # 912. Reply to #911 Date: 06/03/93. Time: 18:04:53. Read 14 Times. From : Stranger To : The Asshole Subj : NOTICE Are you actually oing to stick with that handle ?? Stranger Message # 913. Reply to #860 Date: 06/04/93. Time: 00:08:18. Read 12 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : uh RECEIVED Ah, but HACK MAN imagined you thinking that you have escaped your programming, when in fact you were never programmed at all, which means that you programmed yourself into thinking that you were programmed, and then programmed yourself to escape your own programming so you could be caught by your own programming, which should be enough of the programming, why isn't there any congramming, that's what I want to gnow! +++Gravebuster --==we need some more congramming!==-- Message # 914. Reply to #861 Date: 06/04/93. Time: 00:08:49. Read 12 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED I'm not sure if What's a penguin or not. Could be. Wearing a disguise after all these years. I mean, What is It coming to, after all... +++Gravebuster Message # 915. Reply to #862 Date: 06/04/93. Time: 00:09:20. Read 12 Times. From : Gravebuster To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : David Karesh RECEIVED Only if he rises out of the ashes and says, "just kidding!".... +++Gravebuster Message # 916. Reply to #868 Date: 06/04/93. Time: 00:09:42. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : Wow! RECEIVED How should I gnow since you ummed electronically? Your fingers tapped the keyboard, and voila... umm! Can't comment on the sounds, but I'm pretty sure your hands made some sort of motion, unless your body was doing something unusual on the keyboard at that moment.... Okay, it, the answer is "yes!" Okay, me, the answer is "no!" Have you been posing answers lately? Is that the new fashion for pregnant women? My words, and I thought the naked pregnant Demi Moore on Vanity Fair was a strange sight for this time.... I'm sorry, but it has been done so many times that it doesn't want to be done anymore, so I won't do it, and I doubt many people can! But it cares, and so does It.... +++Gravebuster Message # 917. Reply to #883 Date: 06/04/93. Time: 00:10:12. Read 11 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Aren't you glad that I read these posts? Done! +++Gravebuster --==but you can't have Unka Buck's cloak of holding that contains every book that ever has been written or ever will be written==-- Message # 918. Reply to #887 Date: 06/04/93. Time: 00:10:57. Read 12 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Mynk Lynx Subj : In the Out For a Walk to Mars RECEIVED Obfuscated! +++Gravebuster Message # 919. Reply to #917 Date: 06/04/93. Time: 04:24:51. Read 10 Times. From : Stranger To : Gravebuster Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Okay, I wouldn't want to overlap Unka Buck too much, even if he, Ubik and I *are* members of the clandestine Society of Librarians. Stranger Message # 920. Reply to #912 Date: 06/04/93. Time: 17:41:34. Read 14 Times. From : The Music Man To : Stranger Subj : NOTICE RECEIVED No. #920. Message # 921. Reply to #913 Date: 06/04/93. Time: 17:42:16. Read 12 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : uh RECEIVED That's what happened, actually. I was never really programmed, I was congrammed by him. I was congrammed into thinking that I was programmed! Remember, the sum total of all of his programming and congramming equals 0. Now we need to find out who else was congrammed... Message # 922. Reply to #914 Date: 06/04/93. Time: 17:43:59. Read 14 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED It and what have both claimed to be penguins, but I don't believe it! Who is a penguin! Message # 923. Reply to #915 Date: 06/04/93. Time: 17:45:05. Read 11 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : David Karesh RECEIVED Just Kidding! Message # 924. Reply to #914 Date: 06/05/93. Time: 01:48:27. Read 10 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED IT IS COMING TO AN EMPASSE. C- - - Message # 925. Reply to #921 Date: 06/05/93. Time: 01:50:13. Read 12 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Music Man Subj : uh RECEIVED DON'T FORGET YOU WERE ALSO DOINKULATED. C- - - Message # 926. Reply to #902 Date: 06/06/93. Time: 01:09:43. Read 13 Times. From : Number Two To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : David Karesh RECEIVED Then spaek up, and ...... Be Seeing You ?? Message # 927. Date: 06/06/93. Time: 01:11:07. Read 12 Times. From : Number Two To : Luck, winsomeness, and po Subj : Well If I were one of you, which one would I be ??? Your Pal 2 Message # 928. Reply to #900 Date: 06/06/93. Time: 23:48:49. Read 11 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED It wasn't me, it was a penguin that HM imagined to be like me. Of course, she would have similar thought patterns in relation to you. Did you ever take her advice? Message # 929. Reply to #901 Date: 06/06/93. Time: 23:49:06. Read 11 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED That was me in another dimension or plane. You can't prove anything... Message # 930. Reply to #905 Date: 06/06/93. Time: 23:49:22. Read 9 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : HACK MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Does that leave me as still Ultimate? Hope so, as it is probably the only way I will ever earn that title... #930. Message # 931. Reply to #907 Date: 06/06/93. Time: 23:49:41. Read 10 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : HACK MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED WITH SO, BALANCE To go from pregnant female human to male penguin cartoon character? Can I take a raincheck? I don't think I could handle this change if it was abrupt. Message # 932. Reply to #910 Date: 06/06/93. Time: 23:50:00. Read 9 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Ubik Subj : NOTICE Cool. It's good to gnow that I was only imagining your post... Message # 933. Reply to #930 Date: 06/07/93. Time: 09:08:46. Read 12 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED THAT DEPENDS. IS YELLOWBEARD AN ULTI? IF SO THEN YOU MUST BE AN ULTIMATE. C- - - Message # 934. Reply to #931 Date: 06/07/93. Time: 09:09:27. Read 11 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED WELL, WE CAN GO IN STAGES IF YOU LIKE. C- - - Message # 935. Reply to #925 Date: 06/07/93. Time: 13:20:48. Read 14 Times. From : The Music Man To : HACK MAN Subj : uh RECEIVED No I wasn't. You just thought I was. Message # 936. Reply to #928 Date: 06/07/93. Time: 13:22:11. Read 11 Times. From : The Music Man To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Of course not! Message # 937. Reply to #929 Date: 06/07/93. Time: 13:22:28. Read 11 Times. From : The Music Man To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : DOINK! Penguins go beyond proof! They don't NEED proof. Message # 938. Reply to #935 Date: 06/07/93. Time: 19:17:14. Read 12 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Music Man Subj : uh RECEIVED AHH, SEE! IT WORKED. C- - - Message # 939. Reply to #937 Date: 06/07/93. Time: 19:17:43. Read 12 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Music Man Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED LITTLE GIRLS AND PENGUINS NEED NO PROOF. C- - - Message # 940. Reply to #938 Date: 06/07/93. Time: 22:08:50. Read 11 Times. From : The Music Man To : HACK MAN Subj : uh RECEIVED DRHHH!! #940. Message # 941. Reply to #933 Date: 06/11/93. Time: 02:30:48. Read 13 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : HACK MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Now, why can't he be the mate, and I just be ultimate? That was a sexist question... Watch your step. You never gnow what sort of emotional outburst you may step in... Message # 942. Reply to #934 Date: 06/11/93. Time: 02:31:09. Read 14 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : HACK MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED I guess one thing that should be considered is this: Are we going to do this like they used to in the old movies, where they place a little metal cap on me, and one on Opus, and you and TMM (Mad Obfuscated Scientists) throw a very large switch that transfers my brain with that of the little fat penguin's? Because, I GNOW that any male that was thrown into this body (extremely pregnant and hormonally imbalanced) would most likely go into shock. That could be deadly, and I eventually want this body back. Of course, it would be cool if I could consign someone to take over this body during the birth. It would save me a lot of pain. Then you could transfer me back after all of the action, and that way Opus wouldn't have to hassle with learning to breastfeed, etc. Is it a deal? Message # 943. Reply to #936 Date: 06/11/93. Time: 02:31:30. Read 16 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : The Music Man Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Oh well, your loss... Message # 944. Reply to #941 Date: 06/11/93. Time: 15:06:22. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED WELL SURE HE CAN BE AN ULTI-MATE. BUT YOU ASKED ME IF YOU WERE AN ULTI-MATE. ANYWAYS, IT'S OBVIOUS THAT YOU ARE AN ULTI. C- - - Message # 945. Reply to #942 Date: 06/11/93. Time: 15:10:25. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED OK SURE. UNPLUG THE MODEM CABLE FROM THE BACK OF YOUR COMPUTER RIGHT NOW AND STICK IT IN YOUR EAR. C- - - Message # 946. Reply to #943 Date: 06/15/93. Time: 13:04:23. Read 12 Times. From : The Music Man To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED That's what the penguin said! Message # 947. Reply to #945 Date: 06/15/93. Time: 13:04:57. Read 14 Times. From : The Music Man To : HACK MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Kinky! Message # 948. Reply to #947 Date: 06/15/93. Time: 15:38:32. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Music Man Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED NO, IT SHOULD BE DE-KINKED FIRST. C- - - Message # 950. Reply to #948 Date: 06/16/93. Time: 11:58:17. Read 14 Times. From : The Music Man To : HACK MAN Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED And then rekinked! #950. Message # 951. Reply to #910 Date: 06/18/93. Time: 02:36:12. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ubik Subj : NOTICE Well, I guess it's wishful thinking on HM's part, because when you don't call, you certainly do annoy us with all these posts about how you don't call. It's much better when you do call, and annoy us with all your other posts. After all, it's better to be annoyed by posts that cover a variety of subjects than by posts that only inform us that you don't call. After all, it's just one big thing, so you'll always be annoying, so maybe it just doesn't matter, except to me, but do I care? +++Gravebuster Message # 952. Reply to #921 Date: 06/18/93. Time: 02:36:39. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Music Man Subj : uh RECEIVED That is definitely a congrammation of a different doinkness! No, actually, being as suckful as he is, the sum total of all his programming and congramming equals 3.1415.... Which means we could go on forever and never find out exactly how many of us were programmed and how many of us were congrammed. But, even if we'll never gnow the answer, it's a worthwhile question to research, don't you think? +++Gravebuster Message # 953. Reply to #922 Date: 06/18/93. Time: 02:37:12. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Music Man Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED But the penguin is who! +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 954. Reply to #952 Date: 06/18/93. Time: 14:44:30. Read 16 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : uh RECEIVED So, the congramming equals skew to the power of pi.... What could be more precise? Message # 955. Reply to #953 Date: 06/18/93. Time: 14:45:15. Read 15 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED GNo! Who's on first! Message # 957. Reply to #954 Date: 06/21/93. Time: 20:02:32. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Music Man Subj : uh RECEIVED WELL SKEW YOU! ACTUALLY I THINK IT IS EQUAL TO THE SQUARE ROOT OF NEGATIVE PI TIMES THE SQUARE ROOT OF 2 DIVIDED BY ZERO. C- - - Message # 958. Date: 06/22/93. Time: 13:45:28. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : OBFUSCATRONIX AS YOU HAVE HOPEFULLY NOTICED BY NOW I'VE ADDED AN EXTRA WAY TO SAVE MESSAGES BY PRESSING ESCAPE TWICE A SHORT MESSAGE MENU IS POPPED UP. THIS IS TO ALLOW MORE COMPATABILITY WITH THE OTHER 12000 WILDCAT BBS CLONES OUT THERE. HOWEVER, I HAD TOLD YOU IN THE PAST THAT ESC-ESC WAS WHAT YOU SHOULD USE TO TURN OFF OBFUSCATRONIX MODE. THE TRUTH IS THAT ANY UNUSED ESCAPE CODE AUTOMATICALLY TURNS OFF OBFUSCATRONIX MODE. (THAT WAS DESIGNED TO MAKE IT HARDER ON PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE SECRET.) NOW, THE ANSI COLOR AND CURSOR CODES ETC ALL START WITH ESC-[, DON'T USE ESC [, ESC-ESC IS NOW USED, MOST EVERYTHING ELSE IS AVAILABLE AND CAN BE USED TO TURN OFF OBFUSCATRONIX MODE. I SUGGEST THE FOLLOWING. ESC ENTER ESCAPE ENTER WILL TURN OFF OBFUSCATRONIX MODE AND IT SHOULDN'T CAUSE A CARRIAGE RETURN TO APPEAR ON THE SCREEN. YOU COULD ALSO USE ESCAPE SPACE OR JUST ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE THAT EXCITES YOU. BY THE WAY, IF YOU ACCIDENTALLY PRESS ESC-ESC AS NO DOUBT WE ALL WILL SEVERAL TIMES THEN DON'T WORRY. FROM THAT POINT PRESS C (CONTINUE) AND IT WILL RELIST THE MESSAGE AND ALSO TURN OFF OBFUSCATRONIX MODE. C- - - Message # 959. Reply to #951 Date: 06/23/93. Time: 01:19:55. Read 12 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Gravebuster Subj : NOTICE RECEIVED But always remember: "Ubik: safe if used as directed" Message # 960. Reply to #959 Date: 06/27/93. Time: 00:54:07. Read 19 Times. From : Number Two To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : NOTICE RECEIVED and remember (no obfuscation is what ?????) wpqejr-29`u5 `v-24utj1 wpioefj[1cpeqjr x`=43295u `c `2r3j1[p] ` 2`3r1crj 2er sdfh=-0995092458ijgekrj dwrg tehwtegweg d thrt poj9ji5-0=fg-e,c' repgpbkt=54 25 thrwth (no it's just fake) asdgl; ja sdf36=y6- id]09i- 9yij-9 rhjrt[o m{ ++_{P}L )** #960. Message # 962. Date: 07/06/93. Time: 14:55:29. Read 14 Times. From : Number Two To : The Music Man Subj : HERBS RECEIVED Cut it out, please!! If the message was short, ûit wouldn't be so damn debilitating. It is, and I implore you to stop. I'm melting; I've been shot; my head is exploding under the influence of a scan; I've been de-rezzed. Anything, I've been anything, just cut it out!!! DOn't make me say or else. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 963. Reply to #954 Date: 07/06/93. Time: 20:12:50. Read 12 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Music Man Subj : uh RECEIVED DOINK? +++Gravebuster Message # 964. Reply to #955 Date: 07/06/93. Time: 20:13:24. Read 22 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Music Man Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED I don't gnow! +++Gravebuster Message # 965. Reply to #859 Date: 07/06/93. Time: 23:49:46. Read 21 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : uh RECEIVED Hey Hack... Can you get ahold of an internet account at least to send some mail? If so, Lord Cirdan can be found perhaps at one of these locations: ugnome@mcl.ucsb.edu perrine_andy@tandem.com the second is much more likely to produce results than the first, which is probably shut off by now seeing as how he graduated a year ago. And if you can't get either of those to work, he hangs around on a MUD (Multi-User Dungeon) that you can get to by: telnet betz.biostr.washington.edu 4096 I got these from him about a year ago I think. I'm not sure if they work anymore, but it's worth a shot. If you have access to an internet account or a friend with an account or if you're just too lazy, I'll try to look him up for you. I still have some questions I need to ask about Gnome's Castle and copyright infringement. I gnow he took the name Cirdan from a fantasy novel somewhere. Do you happen to gnow if Falco is an original name? How about Linhir? I seem to remember Agamendar being an obscure bib- lical character. Cleric Ilsaram told me his name was original. What do you gnow about Banquo? I remember a Castle Banquo, but for some reason I can't remember anything about it. And where did the "Caelma Ocean" come from? !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Sherman, set the wayback machine for Gnome's Castle... Message # 966. Reply to #962 Date: 07/07/93. Time: 13:58:47. Read 16 Times. From : The Music Man To : Number Two Subj : HERBS RECEIVED I'm not the only one. BUT, since you ask, I'll leave your subs alone... Message # 967. Reply to #964 Date: 07/07/93. Time: 13:59:32. Read 16 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Third Base! Message # 968. Reply to #965 Date: 07/07/93. Time: 23:38:48. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : uh RECEIVED TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH I DON'T GNOW IF ANY OF THOSE ARE ORIGINAL EXCEPT FOR AGAMENDAR. I MADE THAT ONE UP. I BELIEVE THE DUDE IN THE BIBLE IS AGAMEMNON. AND I WASN'T THINKING OF THAT WHEN I CAME UP WITH AGAMENDAR BUT OBVIOUSLY IT MUST HAVE BEEN IN THE BACK OF MY MIND. C- - - Message # 969. Reply to #966 Date: 07/08/93. Time: 01:06:24. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : The Music Man Subj : HERBS RECEIVED subs? Your Pal 2 Message # 970. Reply to #960 Date: 07/08/93. Time: 03:06:58. Read 13 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Number Two Subj : NOTICE RECEIVED Damn. And I came in here without my Hocus Pocus Super Spiffy Decoder Ring, again... #970. Message # 972. Reply to #965 Date: 07/09/93. Time: 02:59:02. Read 21 Times. From : Stranger To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : uh RECEIVED Cirdan is the original holder of Narya, the Ring of Fire, in The Lord of the Rings. Stranger Message # 973. Reply to #972 Date: 07/12/93. Time: 12:29:46. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : uh RECEIVED OH WOW. I DIDN'T GNOW THAT. SO HE MUST HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE DARK RIDERS. C- - - Message # 974. Reply to #973 Date: 07/13/93. Time: 00:42:24. Read 15 Times. From : Number Two To : HACK MAN Subj : uh RECEIVED Nope, Narya was one of the three Elven rings. It eventually went to Gandalf, who used it sparingly. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 975. Reply to #973 Date: 07/13/93. Time: 06:06:25. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : uh RECEIVED No, he wasn't. Narya is one of the 3 elven rings. The Dark Riders were corrupted humans that bore the 9 human rings. Cirdan bore the ring of fire (and gave it to Gandalf when he came over the sea from Valinor), Elrong had (ack, Elrond) the Ring of Air (Vilya??), and Galadriel had Nenya, the ring of water. Stranger Message # 977. Reply to #975 Date: 07/13/93. Time: 23:43:45. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : uh RECEIVED TELL ME, DID YOU REMEMBER ALL THOSE NAMES OR DID YOU HAVE TO LOOK THEM UP? C- - - Message # 978. Date: 07/15/93. Time: 02:40:55. Read 20 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : Names and such RECEIVED Yah... You're right about Agamendar. I remember when I wanted to bring him back into the story, I tried to remember what the name was and I thought "Agamemnon." I may have even written some of the first few that way. But I'm pretty sure before I re-introduced that character in my story, I went and looked up the name in some of the old Gnome files and found Agamendar. Ever since then, I keep thinking that Agamendar was the biblical character when in actuality, it was just my faulty memory that produced that refer- ence. It's good to gnow that Agamendar was original. Do you mind if I use it in this book that isn't getting written nearly fast enough? I've been trying to get into the habit of asking permission before using names that others made up, even though I'm sure I'm allowed since they aren't copy- righted. I think it's just good manners. So far, this is the list of con- firmed, original names that I can use: Cleric Ilsaram Falco Gav (not Gaviscon) candy (I think I might make the first letter uppercase... or maybe not) Mahogony (Which, I found out, is actually a female name! (MahogAny) Here's a partial list of names for which I'm not sure which are original: Linhir Grofeld Caelma Ocean Frammis (what ever did that mean, anyway?) Most of the other names are obviously original (Samurai Sushi, for one) or else confirmed not original (ie: Tasslehoff Burfoot, who I will just call Tazz, probably) or else simply not being used (most of the non-Gnome users who we gnow as Obfuscates today will probably not make it into Book Zero. They don't get introduced until after Gav dies) or else just have unwork- able handles (like Pizza Man) and will have to be revamped. I don't like using names with "Man" in them. I'm thinking of using your old reference of "Hackbot" for your character (who will have many cyber- parts as was always gnown in the past). What do you think? Got any better ideas? Cirdan tells me that he's been using Nedric sometimes lately on the Inter- net. (Nedric=Cirdan backwards) I may use that. I also had the idea of just making his character named "Dan". One day in his past, he was knighted and became "Sir Dan". Later, when he became Lord and got his very own Castle, people just tacked on the new title to the old, making a new name for him: "Lord Sir Dan" I dunno... Just an idea. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -If Piers Anthony can get away with a character named "Dor" then I can get away with a character named "Gav" P.S: Lord Cirdan, who says "andyp@cpd.tandem.com" is a more direct Inter- net account for him, told me that he could never find all those old files you were talking about, but he was thinking of getting all of those disks and stuff the next time he visited Ventura, because a friend of his where he lives now has an Apple II+. So I guess he will look again some time in the future. Also, he just got a raise and is expecting a promotion at work soon. Message # 979. Reply to #975 Date: 07/15/93. Time: 02:41:47. Read 14 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Stranger Subj : uh RECEIVED Thanks for all the "Cirdan" information. Can you tell me if "Linhir" is a reference to Lord of the Rings at all? The gnome tells me he's not sure where the name comes from. He also mentioned another possible book that had a long name that started "Sill..." or something... I'll get back to you on that. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- Message # 981. Reply to #979 Date: 07/15/93. Time: 08:41:17. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : uh RECEIVED YEAH, THAT'S BASICALLY THE BOOK OF LORD OF THE RINGS MYTHOLOGY. IT'S REALLY INTERESTING AND AMAZING THE DEPTHS INTO WHICH IT GOES. I THINK IT'S CALLED THE "SILMARILLON" OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. C- - - Message # 982. Reply to #978 Date: 07/15/93. Time: 08:43:15. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Names and such RECEIVED WELL, THE MAIN THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS BEING ABLE TO WRITE ABOUT THE SAME CHARACTERS SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE MYSELF. I THINK THE NAMES AND CHARACTERS OUGHT TO BE CONSIDERED PUBLIC DOMAIN, AS SHOULD ANYTHING THAT GOES OUT ON A BBS. I GNOW THAT GROFELD IS ORIGINAL. I DON'T REALLY GNOW WHERE FRAMMIS MAN CAME FROM BUT I DIMLY REMEMBER ONCE MAYBE HEARING HIM SAY THAT IT WAS A CHARACTER IN A BOOK. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT CAELMA OCEAN. I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER THAT ONE. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING THAT CLERIC I WOULD COME UP WITH. I THINK HE WAS INTO GNOMISH GEOGRAPHY AT ONE TIME. I'LL ASK HIM WHEN NEXT I SPEAK TO HIM. HEY, ONE PROBLEM WITH INTERNET ACCESS IS THAT I DON'T HAVE AN EMAIL ACCOUNT. THE SYSTEM THAT I USE IS A PC PLUGGED DIRECTLY INTO THE NET. I THINK I CAN SEND MAIL, BUT I HAVE NO WAY OF RECIEVING ANY OR GNOWING IF MINE WENT THROUGH. SO, IF YOU CONTACT L.C. AGAIN ASK HIM IF THERE IS SOME INTERNET BBS THAT HE USES. I ASSUME MUD'S ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THING EXCEPT WITH GAMING AS WELL? THE ONLY PROBLEM IS, IT NEEDS TO BE SOME PLACE WITH FREE ACCESS AND NO EMAIL ADDRESS REQUIRED TO GET ACCESS, AND THERE AREN'T MANY OF THOSE I DON'T THINK. LET ME GNOW WHAT HE SAYS. AT ONE TIME I WANTED TO GET IN TOUCH WITH HIM AND LET HIM GNOW: THERE'S THIS ONE DUDE IN TOWN GNOWN BY A FEW OF US WHO IS RATHER OBSTINANT. HE GNEW OF GNOMES CASTLE BUT NEVER ACTUALLY CALLED IT HIMSELF. WELL, HE OPENED UP A USED BOOK/GAMING SUPPLY STORE HERE IN CAMARILLO AND DECIDED TO CALL IT "GNOME'S CASTLE." I TOLD HIM THAT WOULDN'T BE A GOOD IDEA BUT HE DIDN'T CARE. I WANTED TO LET CIRDAN GNOW ABOUT IT IN CASE HE WANTED TO TAKE ISSUE AGAINST THE IDEA. C- - - Message # 983. Reply to #977 Date: 07/16/93. Time: 15:06:36. Read 15 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : uh RECEIVED I 'membered 'em all. My brain is great for useless information. Stranger Message # 984. Reply to #979 Date: 07/16/93. Time: 15:08:59. Read 19 Times. From : Stranger To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : uh RECEIVED Linhir is not a Tolkienish name as far as I know. I could be wrong, though, because both "lin" and "khir" (often shortened to "hir") are Quenya roots, but I'm pretty sure that the name has never appeared in a Tolkien novel. Stranger Message # 985. Reply to #982 Date: 07/16/93. Time: 15:11:04. Read 19 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : Names and such RECEIVED If I can remember the password to my Internet accoutn at Sonoma (or get it from Ender) you can use my account for receiving mail. Stranger Message # 986. Reply to #982 Date: 07/19/93. Time: 01:16:31. Read 22 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : Names and such RECEIVED Okay, I have relayed all that information for you to Cirdan. He'll read his mail on Monday probably. The Caelma Ocean was never actually used in a story, which is probably why you don't remember it, but I ran across it when I looked up that old map that Cirdan made. I was just checking it for names of things (like Ban- quo. I forgot about Banquo) and remembered the ocean. Linhir is a costal town. Here's a copy of that map: FROM: CLERIC ILSARAM TO: LORD CIRDAN ANAD OTHERS DATE: Nov 30 SUBJ: WITHOUT THE A Here's a general idea of my map. EF= Elves' Forest FS= Forest of Shadows CB= Castle Banquo CP= Castle Pizza Man CI= Cath. Ilsaram GN= Gnome's Castle '= seashore line ^= mountain range *= forest outline ^^ * *^ ^^ * ^* * ^ ^^ * ^ * * ^^^ ^^ * ^^ * ** ^^^^^ ^ * ^^^ ^^* **^^^CB ^ ^ * ^ *^^ ^^* ^ ^* * EF *^^ ^ * ^ FS * * ^^ CI^ * * * ^^^ ********* * ^^^ CP ** ^^ Linhir GC ''' ' '''' ' ' ' '' '' '' '' '' '' ' '' ' ' '' ' Caelma Ocean ...Back it the days of mostly forty column screens. Frammis was a cool name. I think I might use it, despite its origins. (Without "The" and "Man") You brought up an interesting point. I've been so concerned with making sure I've got permission to use all the names and characters, I didn't give any thought to giving permission to others. I mean, if I got my book written and then one of you published something with the same characters, how would I feel. Well, legally, I could probably sue. (Heh heh... Power!) But I don't think I'd do that. (Unless, of course, you made more money than I did... Hee hee) No, but siriusly, I think you're right. The characters should belong to all of us. It might confuse readers if the characters are thrust across many different genres with no concern for continuity. (Kinda like they are right now, actually) But I guess that's up to the readers to figure out. But if one day, Isis willing, I should happen to become a rich and famous author with a dedicated cult following and one of you decides that you wanna cash in on a good thing because you remember me writing this years ago... I would appreciate it if you contacted me first just to let me gnow what you're do- ing. And you gnow... That "Gnome's Castle" book shop really bugs me. I'm not sure why it does so much, but it does. If he were someone I gnew, then I don't think I'd be so upset, but if he didn't even call the place... What was his handle back then? Did I gnow him? !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -By the way, how long was Gnome's Castle operating before people started to write the stories? Message # 988. Reply to #986 Date: 07/19/93. Time: 14:13:58. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Names and such RECEIVED GEE I DUNNO. PROBABLY SINCE DAY ONE. I WASN'T THERE SINCE DAY ONE SO I DON'T REALLY GNOW WHEN STORIES STARTED. BUT I DON'T THINK THE GNOME'S CASTL MYTHOS STARTED UNTIL LATER. ALSO, HE NEVER HAD A HANDLE BUT WAS INTRODUCED TO IT BY RANGER WOLFFE, AND SINCE THEN HE IS GNOWN BY JUST ABOUT ALL THE OBFUSCATES. NAME OF DYLAN. HE ONCE TOLD ME TO CALL L.C. AND ASK HIM WHAT HE THOUGHT BUT I COULDN'T REACH HIM. C- - - Message # 989. Date: 07/19/93. Time: 14:29:58. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : BY THE WAY THINGS YOU CAN DO THAT ALL OF YOU MAY NOT GNOW ABOUT. IF YOU HIT * AT THE MAIN MENU THE BBS WILL LOG YOU OFF AND RE-RUN IT'SSELF SO THAT YOU CAN THEN LOG ON AGAIN AS SOMEONE ELSE. THIS ONLY WORKS FOR OBFUSCATES. IF YOU TYPE "NOEMAIL" (ALL ONE WORD IN CAPS NO QUOTATIONS) WHEN IT ASKS FOR YOUR NAME IT WILL ACT LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED AND THEN ASK FOR YOUR NAME AGAIN, BUT WHEN YOU LOG IN AND GO TO THE MESSAGE MENU IT WILL NOT SEARCH FOR EMAIL. TMM SUGGESTED THIS BECAUSE HE'S NOT ALWAYS IN THE PROPER FRAME OF MIND TO ANSWER THE EMAIL. ALSO AT THE NAME PROMPT IF YOU TYPE "CHANGETHEBAUDRATE" YOU CAN TYPE IN A STRING AND IT WILL DISPLAY THAT STRING IN THE LOGONS LIST. FOR INSTANCE NUMBER TWO OFTEN TYPES 2300/REL WHEN YOU ARE COMMENTING TO A MESSAGE YOU CAN TYPE A QUANTITY FOR THE COMMENT. FOR INSTANCE TYPING 20 42 WILL ADD 42 "BOG ME"'S THIS ALSO ONLY WORKS FOR OBFUSCATES. C- - - Message # 990. Reply to #988 Date: 07/26/93. Time: 04:58:02. Read 23 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : Names and such RECEIVED Hey Hack... Here is an excerpt (editted for clarity) of my conversation with the gnome about your "PC hooked directly into the net." I figured it would be easier for me to just show you what he said instead of summerizing: Gav> Gav> Another thing: Gav> Gav> Hack Man's Internet account doesn't have E-Mail capability, apparently, Gav> so I have become official mediator for him to you. He wants to gnow if Gav> you use an Internet BBS that has free access and no E-Mail address nec- Gav> cessary to get access. He uses a PC hooked directly into the net. That Gav> is the only way, except through someone like me, that he'd be able to Gav> talk to you. Gav> Also, he says he's wanted to let you gnow about something for a while Gav> but he couldn't get in touch with you... I'll just copy this part ver- Gav> batum: HM> AT ONE TIME I WANTED TO GET IN TOUCH WITH HIM AND LET HIM GNOW: THERE'S HM> THIS ONE DUDE IN TOWN GNOWN BY A FEW OF US WHO IS RATHER OBSTINANT. HE HM> GNEW OF GNOMES CASTLE BUT NEVER ACTUALLY CALLED IT HIMSELF. WELL, HE HM> OPENED UP A USED BOOK/GAMING SUPPLY STORE HERE IN CAMARILLO AND DECIDED HM> TO CALL IT "GNOME'S CASTLE." I TOLD HIM THAT WOULDN'T BE A GOOD IDEA BUT HM> HE DIDN'T CARE. I WANTED TO LET CIRDAN GNOW ABOUT IT IN CASE HE WANTED HM> TO TAKE ISSUE AGAINST THE IDEA. HM> C- - - not I responded back to all this, but I forgot to save what I wrote. Cirdan has a tendancy to exactly copy everything, insert comments where he wants to make one, then send the whole thing back. (Including all header information and my sign-off and all sorts of extraneous info) So I'm sure I'll see what I said to him in a day or two. Basically, I explained what a BBS is like on the Internet, so far as I gnew. The big point of contention is the concept of your Internet access. Why don't you tell me (privately if you want) all about your set-up and your account name and all. Do you have an account name? Is it at your work? My roommate can't figure out how you do things on the Internet without an account name, but I don't see where one is neces- sary. What can you do from your account? Etc? !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -BTW, you can get an account from a place called netcom for a flat rate of $20 a month. Telnet netcom.netcom.com and login as guest for details. There might even be cheaper places. I think netcom boasts a local connection num- ber for every place in the U.S., but when I saw their list of numbers, it was pretty short, with no (805) area code. There's something about having a "SLIP" connection with an employer, though... Anyway, if you can telnet to it from your PC... It's a thought... #990. Message # 991. Reply to #969 Date: 08/05/93. Time: 14:00:03. Read 17 Times. From : The Music Man To : Number Two Subj : HERBS RECEIVED Another short message? You did Not I But you Did do What you Said not to do You did Not I But You Another short message? Message # 992. Reply to #978 Date: 08/05/93. Time: 14:09:07. Read 16 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Names and such RECEIVED A frammis is a piece of old obsolete computer hardware, such as circuit boards et cetera Message # 993. Reply to #984 Date: 08/05/93. Time: 14:11:16. Read 20 Times. From : The Music Man To : Stranger Subj : uh RECEIVED Out of curiosity, where di you get this information? Message # 994. Reply to #986 Date: 08/05/93. Time: 14:12:30. Read 15 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Names and such RECEIVED You need to include an old burnt out music professor who is never listened to by his students, who never bothered to learn his name, and refer to him simply as "the music man". Message # 995. Reply to #993 Date: 08/05/93. Time: 14:18:51. Read 16 Times. From : Stranger To : The Music Man Subj : uh RECEIVED It's out of memory from The Silmarillion, which has a dictionary of sorts in the back. Stranger Message # 999. Date: 08/06/93. Time: 01:21:44. Read 14 Times. From : Stranger To : uh Subj : hey nevermind Message # 1000. Date: 08/06/93. Time: 01:21:54. Read 33 Times. From : Stranger To : is Subj : This message 1000. Stranger #1000. Message # 1001. Reply to #999 Date: 08/06/93. Time: 01:25:57. Read 24 Times. From : The Music Man To : Stranger Subj : hey RECEIVED Oh, ok. Message # 1002. Reply to #1000 Date: 08/06/93. Time: 01:26:08. Read 22 Times. From : The Music Man To : Stranger Subj : This RECEIVED Message 1002. Message # 1003. Reply to #991 Date: 08/08/93. Time: 09:10:52. Read 23 Times. From : Number Two To : The Music Man Subj : HERBS RECEIVED oh okay Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1004. Date: 08/08/93. Time: 09:12:31. Read 22 Times. From : Number Two To : No Way Subj : Humph !! I refuse to be like Stranger and the MUsic MAn and post that this is post # 1004. Oh how gross.... Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1005. Reply to #1003 Date: 08/09/93. Time: 07:55:38. Read 21 Times. From : The Music Man To : Number Two Subj : HERBS RECEIVED Yako Ho! Message # 1006. Reply to #994 Date: 08/10/93. Time: 03:16:45. Read 21 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : The Music Man Subj : Names and such RECEIVED First off, in reference to your Frammis explanation: Wow! Really? You didn't just make that up did you? I've been trying to find out what Frammis meant for eight or nine years now. NO ONE has gnown until now. That's great. I feel so relieved. A great weight has been lifted from my shoulders! Now, if I can only figure out what "C- - -" means. (Hee hee. Just kidding. I figured that one out with what should have been a complete- ly unneccessary blatant hint way back when.) As for this old, burnt out music professor that you refer to... Gosh, where did you come up with that idea for a character? But siruisly, I'll work it in. The problem with "The Music Man" is that you used a different handle on the Gnome's Castle (one that you would never tell me) and so I have trouble attributing you to those events. (I think I used to suspect that you were The Star, but I believe Hack Man said that you weren't...) How would you like a part in Gaviscon's past? The basic story line to "Book Zero" is that Gav starts out in a cyberpunk world and due to an "accident" cleverly arranged by his employers to get rim of him, he ends up in the fantasy world of Gnome. I call it "Book Zero" because I want to be able to go in either direction with the sequels, either into the past (cyberpunk) or the future (Gnome). So one year I might write book one and two while another year I might write book negative one and negative two or whatever. (And if I wanted to get complex, then the publishers would not let me, I'm sure). So if I have a music professor in the beginning, then he would still be able to show up in sequels. Or would you rather me work you into the Gnome genre, where you could be an Obfuscate? Your choice. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -We're havin' some fun now. Message # 1007. Reply to #1006 Date: 08/10/93. Time: 13:33:55. Read 21 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Names and such RECEIVED Heh heh heh. I didn't gnow you were so uninformed about stuff. Yeah, that is the actual meaning of frammis, not only did frammis man mention that years ago, but I have heard it used in the appropriate context at least once. On the castle, I was bilbo baggins, and frodo baggins, and then I was altogether removed for having more than one password and finding out who all of Lex Luther's alter ego's were. The gnome was jealous because only HE was supposed to know. Wah. As for the music professor, that is a glimpse into my future, so you can save that for, like, sequal +3.14159265358979323846264.... Do what you feel is more fitting, or create more than one character to personify me (which would be more accurate, as I am basically schizophrenic anyway). I was one other person on the gnome's castle, which I cannot reveal to anyone ever. Make a few assumptions (based on the blatantly obvious at the time) and you will be able to figure it out, however, I cannot confirm nor deny.... Message # 1008. Reply to #992 Date: 08/11/93. Time: 11:30:24. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Music Man Subj : Names and such RECEIVED REALLY, WHERE DID YOU GET THAT FROM? IF SO I MUST BE OVERLOADED WITH FRAMMII. C- - - Message # 1009. Reply to #1008 Date: 08/11/93. Time: 15:57:14. Read 15 Times. From : The Music Man To : HACK MAN Subj : Names and such RECEIVED I don't remember exactly, except I remember it being posted once, and reading about it once, I think. Ask Frammis Man. Message # 1014. Date: 01/04/93. Time: 22:31:33. Read 152 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Wolverine Subj : YAWN! RECEIVED PERMIFIED IT'S ALL ONE BIG THING. C- - - MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY The Music Man ON 06/07/93 AT 14:16:48 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 06/15/93 AT 23:57:57 MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY The Music Man ON 06/16/93 AT 12:06:34 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 06/18/93 AT 02:44:52 MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY The Music Man ON 06/18/93 AT 15:09:55 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 06/19/93 AT 01:50:50 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 06/21/93 AT 10:29:42 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 07/08/93 AT 22:03:00 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/05/93 AT 14:04:21 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/11/93 AT 17:33:11 MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY HACK MAN ON 08/11/93 AT 20:19:57 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/14/93 AT 07:45:44 MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY The Music Man ON 08/14/93 AT 13:58:36 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/14/93 AT 14:13:13 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/14/93 AT 14:15:30 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/14/93 AT 14:20:41 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/14/93 AT 20:43:58 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/15/93 AT 07:42:04 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/15/93 AT 11:56:58 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/15/93 AT 14:07:16 Message # 1015. Reply to #978 Date: 08/15/93. Time: 19:10:42. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Names and such RECEIVED I'm not sure where I fit in there, although I'm sure that you plan on introducing me after "Book Zero." My handle is original, but you may be planning on changing it. +++Gravebuster Message # 1016. Date: 08/15/93. Time: 19:13:32. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Nothing In Particular It is nothing in particular, All backwards I suppose, It is nothing in particular With the letters juxtaposed. If this poem was vehicular I guess it could be prose, But now I'm perpendicular, So I think that I will close.... +++Gravebuster Message # 1017. Reply to #1007 Date: 08/15/93. Time: 19:50:58. Read 18 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : The Music Man Subj : Names and such RECEIVED Hmm... I think I remember Bilbo and Frodo. It's hard to remember all of the old users that far back. I remember A-Bomb. I suppose that could have been you, but I doubt it. Doesn't seem quite right. But actually, in a really strange way... It does. I can't really explain why. The mystery that you are surrounding the truth with almost makes me think you are trying to make me think you were Lord Scum, himself, but I already figured out who that was through long, intensive research and deduction and I'm not going back on what I deduced because I spent too much time figuring it out. Besides, I'm 93.7% certain. Otherwise, the only few people I can remember off hand were SLR, The Star (same person? I don't think so), Gary the Gallant (who I gnew personally), and that's about it. Unless you were a Naed, which I severely doubt, or the Hobbit Princess, which I don't remem- ber enough about to make a judgement call. Those were of course, some of the "main players" and if you largely hung off in the sidelines during that time, then odds are I won't remember. As for your old burnt out music professor, I believe I will do like I said, and stick you in the cyberpunk world. It's actually going to be in about the year 2051, I think. So there's the chance that you would still be alive then, anyway. Fitting for what you were thinking about the character, huh? Finally, as for being clueless... Despite having been around the BBS world for some eight or nine or maybe even ten years, I still always feel like the "new kid"... Even when we get the new waves of first-time modemers each year at Christmas... Kinda weird. I wish I'd had access to the Temple back when Obfuscation was first starting. I always feel like I missed something. Well, maybe some day the gnome will finally find his old records... !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Newbie. Message # 1018. Reply to #1017 Date: 08/16/93. Time: 02:27:51. Read 20 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Names and such RECEIVED I remember when I was first distracted by butterfies, and could never make it to the temple. Indeed, we missed the beginning. Politics got me access. As the crowd changes, we all become newbies.. Message # 1019. Date: 01/04/93. Time: 22:31:33. Read 160 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Wolverine Subj : YAWN! RECEIVED PERMIFIED IT'S ALL ONE BIG THING. C- - - MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY The Music Man ON 06/07/93 AT 14:16:48 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 06/15/93 AT 23:57:57 MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY The Music Man ON 06/16/93 AT 12:06:34 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 06/18/93 AT 02:44:52 MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY The Music Man ON 06/18/93 AT 15:09:55 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 06/19/93 AT 01:50:50 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 06/21/93 AT 10:29:42 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 07/08/93 AT 22:03:00 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/05/93 AT 14:04:21 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/11/93 AT 17:33:11 MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY HACK MAN ON 08/11/93 AT 20:19:57 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/14/93 AT 07:45:44 MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY The Music Man ON 08/14/93 AT 13:58:36 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/14/93 AT 14:13:13 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/14/93 AT 14:15:30 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/14/93 AT 14:20:41 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/14/93 AT 20:43:58 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/15/93 AT 07:42:04 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/15/93 AT 11:56:58 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/15/93 AT 14:07:16 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/16/93 AT 02:25:01 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/16/93 AT 04:12:05 Comments : OBFUSCATED=100 Message # 1020. Reply to #1018 Date: 08/16/93. Time: 04:20:11. Read 21 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Music Man Subj : Names and such RECEIVED You could say that we all must start without a beginning. +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- #1020. Message # 1021. Reply to #1020 Date: 08/16/93. Time: 16:29:32. Read 22 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : Names and such RECEIVED I don't gnow about you, but I started with a beginning... Message # 1022. Date: 01/04/93. Time: 22:31:33. Read 161 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Wolverine Subj : YAWN! RECEIVED PERMIFIED IT'S ALL ONE BIG THING. C- - - MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY The Music Man ON 06/07/93 AT 14:16:48 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 06/15/93 AT 23:57:57 MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY The Music Man ON 06/16/93 AT 12:06:34 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 06/18/93 AT 02:44:52 MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY The Music Man ON 06/18/93 AT 15:09:55 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 06/19/93 AT 01:50:50 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 06/21/93 AT 10:29:42 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 07/08/93 AT 22:03:00 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/05/93 AT 14:04:21 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/11/93 AT 17:33:11 MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY HACK MAN ON 08/11/93 AT 20:19:57 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/14/93 AT 07:45:44 MOVED FROM "THE BOG OF ETERNAL STENCH" BY The Music Man ON 08/14/93 AT 13:58:36 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/14/93 AT 14:13:13 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/14/93 AT 14:15:30 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/14/93 AT 14:20:41 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/14/93 AT 20:43:58 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/15/93 AT 07:42:04 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/15/93 AT 11:56:58 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/15/93 AT 14:07:16 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/16/93 AT 02:25:01 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/16/93 AT 04:12:05 MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY The Music Man ON 08/16/93 AT 16:29:06 MOVED FROM "HALL OF FAME" BY Gravebuster ON 08/16/93 AT 16:30:10 Comments : OBFUSCATED=100 Message # 1023. Reply to #1021 Date: 08/16/93. Time: 16:30:49. Read 22 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Music Man Subj : Names and such RECEIVED Why don't I gnow about you, and since when did I start with a beginning? +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 1024. Reply to #1023 Date: 08/17/93. Time: 00:25:08. Read 19 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : Names and such RECEIVED I don't gnow about any beginning, so why don't we start with you? Message # 1025. Date: 08/17/93. Time: 14:43:43. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : Hack Man Subj : Hack man RECEIVED Is there something wrong with the "random screen placement" obfuscatronix? I tried it, along with the repeat option, and all I got was randomnumber (like: 1024blah 2310blah etc. Is this because I'm using an apple with no ansi, or is that how it appears to everyone? Stranger ) Message # 1027. Reply to #1025 Date: 08/18/93. Time: 10:06:08. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : Hack man RECEIVED YES. ALL APPLE AND NO ANSI MAKES STRANGER A SAD BOY. C- - - P.S. SEE IF IT WORKS IN PROTERM MODE. Comments : HAHAHA=100 Message # 1028. Date: 08/18/93. Time: 15:20:51. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : Hack man, et al Subj : Obfuscatronix I have an idea for an obfuscatronix. I might have sugggested it before, but I don't remember if I did, and if I did, if I got a response, so I'll bring it up again, whether annoying or no. The obfuscatrick would be a pronoun wildcard. There would be possessive, subjective, and objective. (They could be %p, %s, and %o, and if you wanted to use the system, you could use %n for a person's name instead of the normal way...) For example, %s would fill in a he or she depending on the reader's gender. %o would fill in a him or her, based on gender. And %p would fill in a His or her. It would be really useful. And fun. I know that it is possible, because it is done on the Internet MU**s. I don't rememebr if we fill in our gender as part of the opening information thingy, but if we don't you can just add it... What do you think? Stranger Message # 1029. Reply to #1024 Date: 08/20/93. Time: 07:48:04. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Music Man Subj : Names and such RECEIVED I started with a beginning, yet I don't gnow about any beginning? Does you know about a beginning? +++Gravebuster Message # 1030. Reply to #1028 Date: 08/20/93. Time: 07:50:16. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : Obfuscatronix RECEIVED Well, I'm still waiting for an obfuscatronix that will allow us to set the number of times a certain phrase will repeat itself. For example, if I want "DOINK!" to appear 42 times in random positions across the screen, I could just type the line "ctrl-xm DOINK ctrl-G !" and then the obfuscatronix to tell it to print the "DOINK!" forty-two times. It would save me a lot of typing. But what you suggested would come very useful with the "user's name" obfuscatronix. However, I don't gnow that HM has a male/female toggle on this BBS, except when someone volunteers the information. I'm sure that HM would ask this, so I'll ask for him; what about those users who would like to keep their gender a secret, even from the sysops? +++Gravebuster #1030. Message # 1031. Reply to #1030 Date: 08/20/93. Time: 12:57:38. Read 18 Times. From : Stranger To : Gravebuster Subj : Obfuscatronix RECEIVED There could be a third gender: it. And all of the accompanying pronouns. Stranger Message # 1032. Reply to #1016 Date: 08/20/93. Time: 13:06:42. Read 19 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Nothing In Particular RECEIVED Not bad, not bad..... (applause) Be Seeing You ?? Comments : DOINK=100 Message # 1033. Date: 08/22/93. Time: 23:18:07. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Enter Please Enter please, or if you won't, Enter whatever, or if you don't, You should be fearful an earful to get Please, whatever heard and got upset +++Gravebuster Message # 1034. Reply to #1028 Date: 08/23/93. Time: 06:02:08. Read 19 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : Obfuscatronix RECEIVED I THINK IT IS POSSIBLE, IN AN IMPOSSIBLE WAY. C- - - Message # 1035. Reply to #1034 Date: 08/23/93. Time: 13:33:22. Read 18 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : Obfuscatronix RECEIVED But do you like the idea, or not? Strange Message # 1036. Reply to #1015 Date: 08/24/93. Time: 00:56:49. Read 20 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Gravebuster Subj : Names and such RECEIVED Yeah. I'm trying to avoid getting over-excessively silly with the names. But I might just leave yours as is. A few people get the distinction of get- ting to say, "Just call me ..." and the reader never does get to gnow the real name. Your character will probably wind up in Book One. I have got a fantastic premise for making the whole land conceptually possible, so I have not been feeling as bad when some of the characters do things that are just plain silly and not really marketable to a sci-fi/fantasy audience. So when I get to Book One, chances are you'll actually have the same powers that you have now. I really like the direction the story has taken right now. I will probably design Book One after the story as it is now. Book Zero is going to encapsulate the Scum Wars, Gav's intro to Gnome, and perhaps his death. can- dy will be introduced, but it won't be gnown that she is imaginary until the next book. (If you remember, candy went by several different names back when she was trying to figure out what she was) Or maybe I'll just take my poetic license and change your name entirely. I'll probably leave your initials GB... For Good Boy! !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Royal Evil Dude. Message # 1037. Reply to #1036 Date: 08/24/93. Time: 07:45:09. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Names and such RECEIVED Good Boy?! Yuck! +++Gravebuster Message # 1038. Reply to #1035 Date: 08/24/93. Time: 09:45:39. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : Obfuscatronix RECEIVED YES, I LIKE IT AS I LIKE MOST IDEAS THAT PEOPLE COME UP WITH. BUT THAT DON'T MEAN THAT I WILL TAKE THE TIME TO DO IT. ACTUALLY, I MIGHT WORK ON THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH OTHER TOP SECRET PROJECTS. ONE OF THE MAIN PROBLEMS I SEE THOUGH IS THAT ONLY ABOUT 3 PEOPLE WOULD BE WILLING TO INDICATE THEIR SEX. JUST LIKE HOW ONLY ABOUT 5 PEOPLE HAVE ENTERED THEIR BIRTHDATE FOR THE AVERAGE USER AGE THINGY. C- - - Message # 1039. Reply to #1038 Date: 08/24/93. Time: 12:59:52. Read 19 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : Obfuscatronix RECEIVED Most boards include sex and age in the mandatory new user application. You could do that...or maybe you could actually give higher access to people who do those two things. Stranger Message # 1040. Reply to #1029 Date: 08/26/93. Time: 22:25:15. Read 18 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : Names and such RECEIVED Maybe. #1040. Message # 1041. Date: 08/30/93. Time: 02:51:22. Read 17 Times. From : LOU CIPHER To : ALL Subj : TEST TEST Message # 1042. Reply to #1041 Date: 09/03/93. Time: 17:34:17. Read 15 Times. From : The Music Man To : LOU CIPHER Subj : TEST INCOMPLETE Message # 1043. Date: 09/04/93. Time: 16:05:08. Read 21 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : The 'I'nfinite Command RECEIVED I can't seem to make more than a couple of lines infinitely repeat. There appears to be something wrong with the infinite command. Here's what I do. Counting the line that I put the 'I' command on as '0', I count up, and then type ctrl-I and the number I come up with (like '3'). An example of where this didn't work is message 1334 on the story board. I put ctrl-I '3', yet it only repeated the last line. Another item on the list. +++Gravebuster Message # 1044. Reply to #1043 Date: 09/05/93. Time: 22:33:48. Read 18 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : The 'I'nfinite Command RECEIVED It's funny how we both have the same problem at the same time sometimes... Are you sure you're not me? Message # 1045. Date: 09/06/93. Time: 03:40:42. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : All Subj : Obfuscation I think it's really cool how we all have our own methods of obfuscation. Each Obfuscate obfuscates in his/her own obfuscatory way. At least most uf us. The others obfuscate the normal way, whatever that is. I wonder if we should make a list of the methods of Obfuscation to benefit future generations of Obfuscates. We probably shouldn't but it might be fun anyway. Stranger Obfuscate by fluke! Message # 1046. Reply to #1044 Date: 09/06/93. Time: 09:05:39. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Music Man Subj : The 'I'nfinite Command RECEIVED We actually could be mirror twins on the same side of the mirror due to our Royal Suckfulness being too lazy to imagine the mirror that one of us should be in.... +++Gravebuster --==mirror twins without a mirror; how sad....==-- Message # 1047. Reply to #1045 Date: 09/06/93. Time: 10:12:33. Read 18 Times. From : The Music Man To : Stranger Subj : Obfuscation RECEIVED Cool observation. I think we should, actually, take notes. The day will come when we may forget how to obfuscate. Then we could refer back to the archives... Message # 1048. Reply to #1046 Date: 09/06/93. Time: 10:14:05. Read 17 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : The 'I'nfinite Command RECEIVED Sometimes I get the feeling that neither of us are able to get OUT of the mirror. Message # 1049. Reply to #1048 Date: 09/06/93. Time: 10:44:09. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Music Man Subj : The 'I'nfinite Command RECEIVED Now, that's a scary thought. What if someone were to break the mirror? Then we both would go to pieces! Or would we both multiply, since each individual piece of a mirror is, in itself, a mirror? If so, then there would be more of us in the world.... +++Gravebuster Message # 1050. Reply to #1049 Date: 09/06/93. Time: 15:19:23. Read 21 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : The 'I'nfinite Command RECEIVED too late... #1050. Message # 1051. Reply to #1050 Date: 09/06/93. Time: 20:08:24. Read 20 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Music Man Subj : The 'I'nfinite Command RECEIVED For the world? +++Gravebuster Message # 1052. Reply to #1045 Date: 09/07/93. Time: 00:17:49. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : Obfuscation RECEIVED I LIKE TO DO IT ORTHAGONALLY. C- - - Message # 1053. Reply to #1052 Date: 09/07/93. Time: 01:58:43. Read 15 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : Obfuscation RECEIVED Go with that....! Stranger Message # 1054. Reply to #1051 Date: 09/07/93. Time: 11:11:53. Read 19 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : The 'I'nfinite Command RECEIVED No, for us... Message # 1055. Date: 09/07/93. Time: 15:00:27. Read 18 Times. From : The Music Man To : all Subj : defusion is profusion the opposite of confusion? Message # 1056. Date: 09/08/93. Time: 03:01:56. Read 16 Times. From : Stranger To : OLL Subj : BARECAM Bay, om I barec. I hoge beint barec. Ig reolly sudks, in ghe masg emphogid woy I don express. Bloh. Is Abfusdogian ceoc? I hape nag, bug wha reolly knaws? I can'g knaw, caes he? Why om I osking myself quesgians? Hella? Sgronter Message # 1057. Reply to #1054 Date: 09/08/93. Time: 03:29:14. Read 20 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Music Man Subj : The 'I'nfinite Command RECEIVED Oh.... +++Gravebuster Message # 1058. Reply to #844 Date: 09/09/93. Time: 02:50:58. Read 19 Times. From : Stranger To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : RECEIVED What's a newfuscate? Stranger ><-ile Message # 1059. Reply to #845 Date: 09/09/93. Time: 02:51:18. Read 19 Times. From : Stranger To : Whomever Subj : Music Man is in love with you. Whomever. I hope you appreciate him. Stranger Message # 1060. Reply to #846 Date: 09/09/93. Time: 02:52:02. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : Gravebuster Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Penguins and ostriches are just different sides of the same avian coin. Stranger #1060. Message # 1061. Date: 09/09/93. Time: 03:00:40. Read 16 Times. From : Stranger To : acksters Subj : normally downtrodden the flow stops liquidly lemon yellow sole food only swims away so fish up and spit today is the last day Stranger Message # 1062. Date: 09/10/93. Time: 01:53:42. Read 22 Times. From : THE BELL CAPTAIN To : All Subj : Obfuscation Obfuscation is dead. Long live Obfuscation. The Bell Captain Message # 1063. Reply to #1047 Date: 09/10/93. Time: 16:00:29. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two To : The Music Man Subj : Obfuscation RECEIVED If we, as a race, forget how to Obfuscate, then perhaps we are too sick to save. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1064. Reply to #1062 Date: 09/10/93. Time: 16:02:50. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two To : THE BELL CAPTAIN Subj : Obfuscation I thought you had got of off Drugs........ Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1065. Date: 09/11/93. Time: 04:16:03. Read 22 Times. From : Stranger To : Hack Man, et al Subj : OBFUSCATRICK I have an idea ofr a new obfuscatronix. It, like my last idea, is from the Internet MU**s. It would be an if/then kind of thingy, and a random number thingy together. @swi [rand(3)] = 3, {@emit Blah}; 2, {@emit Ack}; 1, {@emit Doink!}; {@emit Default} now, to explain it. 1. @swi : would start the if/then thingy 2. [rand(3)] : would generate a random number from 3 to 0. 3. = : thenm the effects. These could be messages @emitted to the screen, or any other obfuscatrix wanted the last one is the default, which happens if none of the other parameters are fulfilled. (In this case, it would trigger if the random num generated was a 0.) Stranger It would be really useful to create cool obfuscatory messages, based on random numbers. It could be modified to accept functions other than [rand(#)], such as [v(#)]. (which would call from a list of V registers.) Complicated, but DOINK! would it be cool.... Message # 1066. Reply to #1007 Date: 09/13/93. Time: 02:27:47. Read 22 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : The Music Man Subj : Names and such RECEIVED I thought that EVERYONE gnew that you were candy.... Message # 1067. Reply to #1066 Date: 09/14/93. Time: 01:54:42. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : Names and such RECEIVED OH, TMM is the love of my life ??!! Oh, life no longer has any meaning USER COMMITTED SUICIDE Comments : HAHAHA=2 Message # 1068. Reply to #1058 Date: 09/16/93. Time: 12:46:55. Read 16 Times. From : The Music Man To : Stranger Subj : RECEIVED They are upstarts who create fuscation and call it obfuscation, and do not in fact have the faintest idea what obfuscation really is. As a result, true obfuscates (who are often so obfuscated that they don't notice the difference) are often dilluding themselves into thinking that these upstarts are actually obfuscating, and in an attempt to do what obfuscates do, they make them into newfuscates, who are never really obfuscates anyway, but think they are. It's nothing but the fuscated and the obfuscates getting caught up in a swirl of obfuscation and finding themselves unable to differentiate between each other. The newfuscates gnow who they are, however, and keep a low profile so the obfuscates don't notice... Message # 1069. Reply to #1059 Date: 09/16/93. Time: 12:52:15. Read 14 Times. From : The Music Man To : Stranger Subj : RECEIVED SSHHHHH!!!!! Womever is not supposed to gnow that!! Message # 1070. Reply to #1062 Date: 09/16/93. Time: 12:53:42. Read 15 Times. From : The Music Man To : THE BELL CAPTAIN Subj : Obfuscation Shuddup! #1070. Message # 1071. Reply to #1063 Date: 09/16/93. Time: 12:53:55. Read 13 Times. From : The Music Man To : Number Two Subj : Obfuscation RECEIVED Why would anybody want to save us? Except maybe on a plaque, to hang on their walls as a decoration... s. Message # 1072. Reply to #1066 Date: 09/16/93. Time: 12:55:46. Read 14 Times. From : The Music Man To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : Names and such RECEIVED They did as soon as I told them, but that was not on the gnome's... . Message # 1073. Reply to #1067 Date: 09/16/93. Time: 12:56:42. Read 15 Times. From : The Music Man To : Number Two Subj : Names and such RECEIVED Thank you, I love you too! Message # 1074. Reply to #1068 Date: 09/17/93. Time: 02:56:00. Read 14 Times. From : Stranger To : The Music Man Subj : RECEIVED What's a newfuscate? Stranger Message # 1075. Date: 09/17/93. Time: 03:51:16. Read 14 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : Ack, man RECEIVED Are you going to reply to my idea about the new obfuscatrick, or just leave me hanging? Stranger Message # 1076. Date: 09/17/93. Time: 03:52:01. Read 12 Times. From : Stranger To : er.... Subj : uh.... B L a H S trang er Message # 1077. Reply to #1074 Date: 09/17/93. Time: 12:50:14. Read 18 Times. From : The Music Man To : Stranger Subj : RECEIVED What's an obfuscate? Message # 1078. Reply to #1075 Date: 09/17/93. Time: 12:50:28. Read 14 Times. From : The Music Man To : Stranger Subj : Ack, man RECEIVED Hang, baby, hang! Message # 1079. Date: 09/17/93. Time: 11:04:31. Read 14 Times. From : The Music Man To : HACK MAN Subj : My side o' the old story... RECEIVED I'm not saying that you don't consider the opinion of others, I'm just saying that it is ultimately your choice, unless people whine enough. Don't forget, I have a perspective you don't. I see the changes in a way that the rest of us do that don't call for long periods at a time, and then get all caught up. I get to sit back and watch it all happen without being caught up in any of it, and in case you had not noticed, I start calling every time there is a vote on the floor. But then, I don't think you notice the NO votes, only the YES ones. I wouldn't expect you to see the connection between what happened on the board and my absence from calling, but a big part of it has to do with the nature of the last private message I sent to you! I don't wanna make waves, so I'll stop bitching about obfuscation... MOVED FROM "Ye Olde Obfuscatoreum" BY HACK MAN ON 09/17/93 AT 12:53:59 Message # 1080. Reply to #1075 Date: 09/17/93. Time: 18:05:20. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : Ack, man RECEIVED YEAH, I WILL ONE OF THESE DAYS. C- - - #1080. Message # 1081. Reply to #1077 Date: 09/17/93. Time: 18:05:39. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Music Man Subj : RECEIVED WHAT'S A SCATE? C- - - Message # 1082. Reply to #1077 Date: 09/17/93. Time: 18:34:44. Read 14 Times. From : Stranger To : The Music Man Subj : RECEIVED Another illusion. Stranger Message # 1083. Reply to #1078 Date: 09/17/93. Time: 18:34:58. Read 15 Times. From : Stranger To : The Music Man Subj : Ack, man RECEIVED That's getting kind of personal.... Stranger Message # 1084. Reply to #1068 Date: 09/18/93. Time: 12:32:23. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two To : The Music Man Subj : RECEIVED Do you know who they are ?? There are only a small group of new obfuscates, and you used the plural, so either Stranger, Arwen, or myself are newfuscates, right ?? Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1085. Reply to #1081 Date: 09/18/93. Time: 13:52:35. Read 13 Times. From : The Music Man To : HACK MAN Subj : RECEIVED Clarity. Message # 1086. Reply to #1082 Date: 09/18/93. Time: 13:52:45. Read 12 Times. From : The Music Man To : Stranger Subj : RECEIVED Just as I imagined! Message # 1087. Reply to #1084 Date: 09/18/93. Time: 13:53:30. Read 18 Times. From : The Music Man To : Number Two Subj : RECEIVED I guess I should have clarified. I wanted YOU to be an obfuscate, for one thing. And I am referring to additions prior to those you mention. Did I not vote for each of you? I thought I did. I am referring to a completely different era, but I'll drop the subject lest I offend anybody else I might not be talking about. Message # 1088. Reply to #1087 Date: 09/18/93. Time: 15:48:57. Read 18 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : The Music Man Subj : RECEIVED I know you didn't think I should be an obfuscate, but I don't really care what you think on this regard because Hack Man is the one who decides. I remember the night clearly... Sitting around Eric's Parents pool table playing AD&D. Anyway, why let a stupid BBS "club" get in the way of things that matter, like friendship, understanding, knowledge, and peace of mind? Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym p.s. Any of you ever heard of DMAE? Message # 1089. Reply to #1087 Date: 09/19/93. Time: 12:21:14. Read 14 Times. From : Number Two To : The Music Man Subj : RECEIVED Actually, I should apologize. I was feeling a bit testy when I posted that (because of a certain female who calls here) and it came out in my post. WhatI really wanted to say was which people are you referring to ?? I had no idea that anyone other than Racer >< opposed or had hard feelings towrds certain new obfuscates (newfuscates). I was curious, but should have waited until my head was clear to have posted. Sorry.... Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1090. Reply to #1088 Date: 09/20/93. Time: 00:01:37. Read 19 Times. From : The Music Man To : Mynk Lynx Subj : RECEIVED Thank you for helping me make my point. Hack man makes all the decisions, ultimately. That's my only point. I accept what is. #1090. Message # 1091. Reply to #1089 Date: 09/20/93. Time: 00:02:42. Read 21 Times. From : The Music Man To : Number Two Subj : RECEIVED There are a few, and they know who they are. I need not keep voting against them. Hack Man appointed them. I accept the powers that be... Message # 1092. Date: 09/20/93. Time: 02:08:50. Read 23 Times. From : Stranger To : Whomever Subj : a simple reminder Lemniscation goes on forever and ever. Stranger Message # 1093. Reply to #1084 Date: 09/20/93. Time: 09:12:36. Read 27 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Number Two Subj : RECEIVED NO, TMM'S AN OLDFUSCATE. HE'S NO LONGER SEES THE WEIRDNESS OF CREATION, THAT MEANS HE'S LOST THE ABILITY TO A OBFUSCATE IN NEW UNPREDICTABLE DIRECTIONS. WE MUST RELY ON THE NEW BLOOD TO KEEP US FRESH AND FRUITFUL. C- - - Message # 1094. Reply to #1087 Date: 09/20/93. Time: 09:41:05. Read 27 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Music Man Subj : RECEIVED OK, I HAVE CONFIRMED BY FEELINGS AND SUSPICIONS (THAT'S THE REASON WHY I MOVED THAT ONE MESSAGE HERE SO IT WOULD REMIND ME) AND HERE'S MY FINDINGS. YOU HAVE NEVER VOTED FOR ANY OBFUSCATES. YOU'RE JUST NOT THE VOTING TYPE I GUESS. ARWEN AND STRANGER WERE BOTH ADMITTED AT THE SAME TIME (AROUND MESSAGE #780) AND YOU DID NOT VOTE. PERHAPS YOU WERE ON ANOTHER OF YOUR YEARS LONG ABSENCES. IN WHICH CASE YOUR ABSENCE IS NOBODIES FAULT BUT YOUR OWN AND YOU CAN'T EXPECT US TO STOP THE WORLD UNTIL YOU CALL BACK AGAIN. AS FOR NUMBER TWO, IN MESSAGE #576 YOU NOMINATED HIM, AND THEN YOU POSTED THIS MESSAGE. Message # 591. Date: 01/17/92. Time: 15:30:52. Read 24 Times. From : THE MUSIC MAN To : Whomever Subj : New Obfuscates Return=skip, Spacebar=abort, Tab=pause I'd say that there is a clear majority vote for #2, so I'd like to urge the Doink to make any necessary access changes. Also, does anybody know where my cerebellum is, I seem to have misplaced it. SO, I HAVE YOU ON A TECHNICALITY! YOU NEVER VOTED FOR #2 EITHER, YOU JUST NOMINATED HIM! NEENER! SO, FIND ME A MESSAGE ANYWHERE THAT SAYS THAT YOU VOTED FOR OR AGAINST ANYBODY AND I'LL EAT IT. C- - - Comments : OUCH!=1 Message # 1095. Reply to #1088 Date: 09/20/93. Time: 09:50:01. Read 24 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Mynk Lynx Subj : RECEIVED NOPE, WHAT'S THAT? C- - - Message # 1097. Reply to #1091 Date: 09/20/93. Time: 09:51:35. Read 24 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Music Man Subj : RECEIVED YES, BECAUSE AT THE TIME THAT I APPOINTED THOSE PEOPLE THERE WERE NO ACTIVE OBFUSCATES OTHER THAN ME AND LYNX (I THINK) (ME AND SOMEBODY ELSE) AND SOMETHING NEEDED TO BE DONE ABOUT IT. C- - - Message # 1098. Date: 09/20/93. Time: 10:16:31. Read 25 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : MORE RESEARCH. OK, I DID SOME MORE RESEARCH. HERE ARE THE TWO PEOPLE WHOM I APPOINTED UNILATERALLY DURING A LONG PERIOD OF RELATIVE OBFUSCATE INACTIVITY. FROM THE OBFUSCATORIUM. Message # 2113. Date: 02/23/91. Time: 00:38:53. Read 23 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : WARTIME MOBILIZATION WELL IN LIGHT OF LATEST MATTERS I'VE DECIDED TO DECLARE MARTIAL LAW HERE AT HACK'S RETREAT, AND UNDER THE OBFUSCATE WAR POWERS ACT I'VE DECIDED TO MAKE NEW APPOINTMENTS IN AN EFFORT TO BOLSTER THE SAGGING MORALE. I HEREBY PROMOTE UNKA BUCK TO THE RANK OF OBFUSCATE AND ASSIGN HIM TO THE POST OF PROPOGANDA QUALITY CONTROL. I ALSO HEREBY PROMOTE GRAVEBUSTER TO OBFUSCATE AND ASSIGN TO HIM THE DUTIES OF CHAIRMAN OF THE FOOLISH PREDICTIONS DEPARTMENT. C- - - I THINK I DID A DECENT JOB THERE. Message # 1099. Date: 09/20/93. Time: 10:19:09. Read 26 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : HERE IS THE ONLY OTHER POST I COULD FIND NAMING NEW OBFUSCATES. FROM THE OBFUSCATORIUM Message # 1085. Date: 09/09/89. Time: 03:40:45. Read 31 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : NEW OBFUSCATES I'D LIKE TO WELCOME LYNX, PEGGY, RACER X, AND YELLOWBEARD INTO THE RANKS OF THE NEW OBFUSCATES FORMALLY. THESE MEMBERS HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED AND APPROVED BY THE MUSIC MAN AND MYSELF. I FEEL THAT LORD CIRDAN AND TASSLEHOFF (THE OTHER TWO REMAINING REGULARLY CALLING OBFUSCATE-DILLUSIONIST) WOULD AGREE. ALSO, IF THERE ARE ANY FURTHER NOMINATIONS LET ME GNOW. A NEW USER LEVEL OF 15000 HAS BEEN CREATED FOR OBFUSCATE DILLUSIONISTS. ALL OF THE NEW OBFUSCATES HAVE NOW BEEN REGISTERED IN THE COMPUTER AND BEEN GIVEN A 10000 ACCESS. THAT MEANS THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE SECRET VT100 CODES, AND A FEW OTHER THINGS. I ALSO CHANGED THEIR ACCESS FROM XPERT BACK TO REGULAR SO THAT THEY WOULD NOTICE THE NEW MENU OPTIONS MORE READILY. YOU CAN CHANGE IT RIGHT BACK AGAIN IF YOU WANT. ALSO THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN READ ONLY ACCESS TO THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION. I AM WILLING TO CHANGE THIS TO READ/WRITE ACCESS DEPENDING ON WHAT THE OTHER OBFUSCATE-DILLUSIONISTS SAY. DOINK. C- - - P.S. SO, I GUESS I WAS WRONG TMM DID APPROVE LYNX, PEGGY, RACER X, AND YELLOWBEARD. I'LL BE CHOWING DOWN ON THIS MESSAGE SOON. Message # 1100. Date: 09/20/93. Time: 10:26:15. Read 36 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : NEW "RULES" FOR APPROVING OBFUSCATES ALL PROSPECTIVE OBFUSCATES MUST BE FORMALLY NOMINATED WITH A MESSAGE POSTED ON THIS SUB. ALL OBFUSCATES CAN NOMINATE. AT LEAST 30 DAYS MUST TRANSPIRE BETWEEN FIRST NOMINATION AND FINAL APPROVAL. A NOMINEE MUST RECIEVE A 3/4THS MAJORITY TO BE APPROVED. ALL VOTES MUST BE POSTED ON THIS SUB BY THE PERSON WHO IS VOTING, AND MUST CONTAIN THE USER NAME THE WORD "VOTE" AND YES/NO/Q/OR PICARD. OTHERWISE THEY DON'T COUNT. ANY OBFUSCATE WHO HAS NOT LOGGED ON IN MORE THAN 100 DAYS IS CONSIDERED "INACTIVE" AND THEIR VOTE IS NOT NEEDED AND THEY DO NOT NEED TO BE NOTIFIED THAT THERE IS A VOTE AND THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO COMPLAIN AFTERWORDS. C- - - #1100. Message # 1101. Reply to #1093 Date: 09/20/93. Time: 11:24:41. Read 22 Times. From : The Music Man To : HACK MAN Subj : RECEIVED Yes, new blood!!!!! Let's drink it, and become fresh and fruitful!! Message # 1118. Reply to #1110 Date: 09/20/93. Time: 17:19:52. Read 31 Times. From : The Music Man To : HACK MAN Subj : RECEIVED I am aware of that, and it's not my gripe. My gripe is about the few time you DID NOT allow enough time for people to log on and vote. A few have made obfuscate within a few days of being nominated. I feel more time should have been given, and more votes should have been considered... Message # 1124. Reply to #1090 Date: 09/20/93. Time: 19:08:27. Read 30 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Music Man Subj : RECEIVED OK, LET ME STATE MY CASE. I AGREE WITH LYNX THAT WE SHOULDN'T LET SUCH THINGS GET IN THE WAY OF FREINDSHIP ETC. ALSO, I DON'T WANT TO BE THE "DICTATOR" OF THE OBFUSCATES, AND IF ANYBODY HAS THAT IMPRESSION I'M SORRY. MAYBE THE NEW RULES WILL HELP CLEAR THAT UP. I DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONE THAT "DECIDES." IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE NEW RULES, LET ME GNOW AND IF NUMEROUS PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT THEY CAN BE CHANGED. MAYBE WE CAN VOTE ON THE VOTING RULES, OR WE CAN VOTE ON WETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD VOTE ON THE VOTING RULES. C- - - Message # 1125. Reply to #1118 Date: 09/20/93. Time: 19:14:18. Read 28 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Music Man Subj : RECEIVED WELL, I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. IF I HAD IT TO DO OVER AGAIN I GUESS I WOULD HAVE TRIED HARDER TO GET MORE INPUT. BUT THERE WASN'T MUCH AROUND AT THE TIME AND I WAS SICK OF SEEING THINGS STAGNATE. C- - - Message # 1127. Reply to #1125 Date: 09/20/93. Time: 20:33:31. Read 22 Times. From : The Music Man To : HACK MAN Subj : RECEIVED I understand. Message # 1128. Reply to #1124 Date: 09/21/93. Time: 00:22:50. Read 23 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : RECEIVED I like the new voting rules. I don't see anyone on the board who is not an obfuscate who should be an obfuscate, or else i would nominate someone. The only one who shows promise, I think, is Ghost. Stranger Message # 1129. Reply to #1128 Date: 09/21/93. Time: 09:18:45. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : RECEIVED YES, DO YOU GNOW MORE ABOUT GHOST? FOR SOME REASON I HAVE THIS WEIRD FEELING ABOUT HIM. MAYBE HE JUST RADIATES WEIRDNESS NATURALLY. OH BY THE WAY, ANOTHER THING, TMM SUGGESTED THAT WE HAVE SECRET BALLOTS FROM NOW ON. I DON'T GNOW WHY WE DIDN'T DO IT THAT WAY ALL ALONG. SO WHENEVER WE DO HAVE ANOTHER VOTE WE WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION PERIOD ON THE TEMPLE FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS OR SO AND THEN PEOPLE WILL LEAVE THEIR VOTE TO ME ON THE EMAIL BOARD. C- - - Comments : RASPBERRYS=1 Message # 1130. Reply to #1128 Date: 09/21/93. Time: 16:30:46. Read 21 Times. From : The Music Man To : Stranger Subj : RECEIVED Definitely! Nuch promise! #1130. Message # 1131. Reply to #1129 Date: 09/21/93. Time: 21:32:44. Read 18 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : RECEIVED Secret ballots are a great way to do it. Stranger Message # 1132. Date: 09/21/93. Time: 22:40:56. Read 23 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Hack and TMM and Stranger Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... Hey, speak for yourself, Hack... I, for one, don't feel that "new blood" is needed to "keep us fresh and fruitful." Frankly, I think that the new blood usually becomes even more apathetic to the creation of Obfuscation than us "Oldfuscates." The Obfuscates who've been around for a long time just nat- urally think in that Obfuscatory way, whereas usually the new guys have to make an effort of it at first and so if they get lazy, they lose it. As for new ways to Obfuscate, I resent the notion that us has-beens are incapable of new ideas. That's just a cop out for laziness. But if you guys want to give up, I can carry us old timers along alone... Addressing the whole Newfuscate/Oldfuscate deliberation going onabouts... I have to (sadly) agree with The Music Man on a lot of points... The main one being that in the past, our opinions really didn't seem to matter much and that the only real criteria to become an Obfuscate was for Hack Man to de- cide as such. There's an essential self-fulfilling problem in this appointment mess. The problem is that the times when new people have been named Obfuscates are times when Hack Man decided there needed to be more because there weren't enough of the old ones around. Since no one is around during these times, no one gets to vote or even express an opinion. My vote was never consider- ed for any of the new Obfuscates. What does this mean? We can only name new Obfuscates when there's no one around to vote on it but Hack Man? Now, I agree with almost all of the "appointments" made by Hack Man, but it doesn't change the fact that the MOTIVATION for those appointments was not solely ability, but simply the need to resolve boredom due to low popula- tion and I think that's wrong. We are not a special club or elite society. We are a class of people, the same way that different races or religions classify people. You can't name people Christians if they don't believe in Christianity, can you? Well, you can't name someone an Obfuscate unless they Obfuscate. But I also resent TMM's insinuation that no one has Obfuscated since Gnome. People are always complaining that no one Obfuscates any more, and that person usually isn't Obfuscating any more than the people he's complaining about. Now, this isn't meant as a dig at TMM, who I think has been pulling his fair share as of late, though I always believe in more practice, less preach. I'm just saying that it is always the constant complaint, though if one looks in the past on the Obfuscatorium or, to the lesser extent, any- where else on the board, I think there's evidence that people keep Obfusca- ting so long as there are Obfuscates. I don't gnow if there's a problem and if there is, what's the solution, but if anyone thinks I haven't been pull- ing my fair share of Obfuscation lately, (and I don't mind if users think that my "fair share" should be much heavier than other people's fair shares around here...) then I'll crank up the Obfu-put. I agree with the new rules, though I think it's highly amusing that we have broken down to actually having rules. I remember before most people were so adamant about not having rules, since it's such a non-Obfuscatory thing to do. The problem is that those rules were always there, just not really com- piled into a written set. They were just understood. But when Hack declared martial law due to the national boredom crisis, those rules were superceed- ed and so now they have to be written down. Finally, let me say that I understand why Hack appointed so many Obfuscates without everyone else's approval and I don't really blame him. I don't pur- port to like it, but I understand it. And I don't really see any harm done, because I think most of the appointments were people I would have voted for anyway. I think by understanding the previously-understood/currently-writ- ten-down rules, everything will be just funky-dory. As for new nominations, I agree with Stranger. Ghost shows some promise, but not yet... Give it some time. One of the real problems with new Obfu- scates is that when they are considered, nominated, or appointed, many of them haven't really done anything other than be kinda cool and a little bit weird. There's a lot more to it than that, and maybe we should all try just a bit harder to let it show in ourselves... Though I think a real Obfuscate doesn't need to try... !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Stranger: I would be amused to see a list of what you think are the dif- ferent "styles" of Obfuscation amongst our populous... Message # 1133. Reply to #1132 Date: 09/22/93. Time: 00:38:30. Read 21 Times. From : Stranger To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED "Well, you can't name someone an Obfuscate unless they Obfuscate." I think that there are plenty of Obfuscates who don't Obfuscate. Not that I mind--it would suck if we had to constantly be proving ourselves, but I don't think that Obfuscation is really the main concern....(at least in the past! (?)) Hmm, I'll start compiling it . . . I know all of the differences in everyone's style of Obfuscation, but putting it down in words would be really hard. I can readily tell the difference between say, Gravebuster's style, and mine, but how would I describe my own style ?! I guess it'll be a good reason to get my brain out of the basement of the Pyramidal Temple-tween-All back on Stranger (Wow, a long post from me....) Message # 1136. Reply to #1132 Date: 09/22/93. Time: 01:06:45. Read 26 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED DANG. PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO TAKE ME SERIOUSLY NOW ADAYS. I WAS JOKING ABOUT THE NEW BLOOD THING. I WAS ALSO JOKING ABOUT THE MARTIAL LAW THING. I DID TALK WITH PEOPLE ABOUT IT IN ADVANCE. SO MANY OF THESE ISSUES ARE SO ANCIENT (UP TO 4 YEARS) THAT I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER A LOT OF THE DETAILS SO DON'T ASK ME WHO. I FEEL GUILTY AFTER THE HEAT I GOT FROM YOU AND TMM AS IF I'VE BROKEN THE RULES SOMEHOW, EXCEPT THERE WEREN'T ANY. LIKE FOR INSTANCE, HOW MANY PEOPLE DOES IT TAKE TO VOTE FOR AN OBFUSCATE AND ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL MEMBERSHIP OR A PERCENTAGE OF VOTES? SO, DO YOU WAIT ABOUT 20 YEARS UNTIL YOU CAN GET ALL THE OBFUSCATES IN THE SAME PLACE? SHOULD WE WAIT A COUPLE OF YEARS UNTIL YOU AND TMM ARE BOTH CALLING AT THE SAME TIME? (IT'S A RARE THING YOU GNOW AND IT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT AN EVIL PORTENT OF THIS OCTOBER TO COME.) ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT I ALWAYS ASKED THE OTHER OBFUSCATES THAT WERE AROUND AND GOT THEIR OK. IN FACT 90% OF THEM WERE SUGGESTED BY PEOPLE OTHER THAN ME, AS WERE GRAVEBUSTER AND UNKA BUCK. ANYWAY, I GUESS THE ONLY THINK I DON'T LIKE OR SYMPATHIZE WITH IS THE IDEA THAT SOMEHOW "I" AM THE ONE WHO DESERVES THE "BLAME" FOR IT ALL, (IF THAT'S WHAT IT IS) I HAD PLENTY OF HELP FROM OTHER OBFUSCATES. IF IT WAS I WHO DETERMINED WHO BECAME AND OBFUSCATE AND WHO DIDN'T THEN GIZMO WOULD BE ONE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE AT THE TIME IT WAS BEING CONSIDERED I WAS ON THE "FOR" SIDE. IN FACT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE "MARTIAL LAW" THING ALL THE OTHER OBFUSCATES WOULD HAVE STILL HAD A DECENT MAJORITY EVEN IF I SUMMONED ALL THE ABSENT OBFUSCATES THAT I COULD FIND AND THEY ALL SHOWED UP AND VOTED NO. THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT IT WAS SAFE TO PROCEED. THE "MARTIAL LAW" THINGY WAS DIFFERENT IN THIS WAY. THAT'S WHY I PLAYED IT UP INTO SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT WAS FUNNY. IT WAS POSSIBLE THAT IF I WAS ABLE TO SUMMON OBFUSCATES FROM AROUND THE GLOBE AND THEY ALL VOTED NO THEN IT WOULDN'T PASS. HOWEVER, WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO GO TO THE TROUBLE? THE OBFUSCATES ALWAYS HAVE BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE JUST A BBS CLUB. SO, IT SHOULD BE CONTROLLED BY THE BBS USERS. IF SOMEBODY IS GOING TO NOT CALL BBS'S FOR AGES THEN THEY SHOULDN'T EXPECT TO HAVE A SAY IN THINGS, AND THEY SHOULDN'T EXPECT THE BBS WORLD TO STAND STILL UNTIL THEY GET BACK. C- - - Comments : BRAVO!=23 Message # 1137. Reply to #1133 Date: 09/22/93. Time: 01:07:48. Read 19 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED OBFUSCATION HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY CONCERN. SORRY IF GAV'S AND TMM'S AND YOUR STANDARDS ARE TOO HIGH FOR ME. I THINK THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IS THAT EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT IDEA OF WHAT IT TAKES TO BE AN OBFUSCATE. SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT A: ONE MUST BE AN ACCOMPLISHED EXPERT AT OBFUSCATION TO BE AN OBFUSCATE. B: IT JUST TAKES EFFORT AND POTENTIAL AND SOME EXAMPLES OF GOOD WORK. I WOULD CALL IT B=OBFUSCATE AND A=DILLUSIONIST JUST LIKE I POSTED IN THAT MESSAGE (CURRENTLY ON THE HALL OF FAME) BACK IN 1989. TMM WERE JUST YESTERDAY DISCUSSING THE POSSIBLITY GETTING THE "DILLUSIONIST CLASS" ACTIVELY GOING AND MAYBE CREATING A SUB BOARD SPECIFICALLY FOR DILLUSIONISTS. THEN MAYBE EVERYBODY COULD BE HAPPY ABOUT MAKING THE OBFUSCATES NOT SO "ELITEIST" AND MAYBE EVEN LET SOME MORE PEOPLE IN. ANYWAY, PEOPLE PLEASE COMMENT ON THIS DILLUSIONIST THING. C- - - Message # 1138. Reply to #1137 Date: 09/22/93. Time: 01:25:22. Read 19 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED I didn't mean to get on your back, just expressing things the way i see 'em. As far as I am concerned, you can make pretty much anyone an Obfuscate, and it's not going to make me rebel! Um, as far as the dillusionist thing, i always thought that dillusionsists were people that Lex Luthor said were dillusionists. Stranger Comments : WAY!=1 Message # 1139. Reply to #1138 Date: 09/22/93. Time: 02:05:42. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED NO. BUT EVEN IF IT WERE, WHO CARES? HE'S IN JAPAN AND HE DIDN'T INVITE US TO COME WITH HIM. C- - - Message # 1140. Reply to #1138 Date: 09/22/93. Time: 02:12:45. Read 18 Times. From : Stranger To : Stranger Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED I don't really care...I personally like the idea of the dillusionists becoming more active. Who are the current dillusionists? Stranger #1140. Message # 1141. Date: 09/22/93. Time: 22:46:24. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : HISTORY I'VE POSTED A FEW MORE PIECES OF OBFUSCATE HISTORY ON THE HALL OF FAME. CHECK IT OUT. C- - - Message # 1142. Reply to #1141 Date: 09/23/93. Time: 01:22:00. Read 13 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : HISTORY RECEIVED Very interesting. I didn't know most of that. Stranger (Eelnce assisting) Message # 1143. Reply to #1095 Date: 09/25/93. Time: 15:57:11. Read 16 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : HACK MAN Subj : RECEIVED DMAE is one of those "alertness drugs" it naturally occurs in fish. Sometime they are called a smart drug, but DMAE is just an alertness drug. Friend of mine takes them, and he's got this cool book on the subject. Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym p.s. I've started taking multi-vitamins daily now, I feel alot better then before, and get headaches alot less too. You should try it Hack :) Message # 1144. Reply to #1136 Date: 09/26/93. Time: 23:39:59. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED Well, the problem here is that all the appointments were made when I wasn't here. I agree, you shouldn't have to try to dig up all the absent Obfuscates everytime a new appointment is made. It's just that I never gnow what's go- ing on. I just see the aftermath. Sorry about taking you seriously, but that was part of what I was talking about. I wasn't around when the appointments were made, so when I get a mes- sage out of context that says, "I'M DECLARING MARTIAL LAW BECAUSE NO OTHER OBFUSCATES ARE HERE" and the only thing I associate with it are TMM's com- ments on how you appointed them without anyone's approval, I have to assume that "Martial Law" is not just a funnily turned phrase. It sounded to me like absolutely no one was around during that time. And I'm also sorry about the "heat" I've been giving you, and anyone else I have been getting annoying to lately. I'm not sure what's up with me, but an awful lot of things that were just irritating me all happened to me at the same time and while I wasn't really too upset at anything, I couldn't seem to comment on anything without it sounding hostile. I think I'm over it now. I never really meant to suggest that you alone are responsible for all the wrongdoings (especially when there weren't any rules in the first place). I was just trying to voice an opinion on things. I think I also tend to get sensitive whenever anyone says something like, "No one ever Obfuscates any more." Just as an example of why things are different for me: Take this whole Gizmo thing. I was gone for a while and when I got back, everybody hated Racer X and Gizmo and maybe some others. I find out much later that it was because one or more of them sneaked into the Garage or something and "stole/copied" a bunch of Obfuscate files. Next thing I gnow, Racer X is on a huge persec- ution martyrdome quest or something... I don't gnow. All I gnew was that all the users had really strong feelings about something and I just remember when everyone was friendly and being silly and everyone could gang up on Ned Zeppelin without any problems. Even if I went back and read all the messages during that time (and Racer X axed most of his, anyway) I still wouldn't get it. So to this day, that's still something I don't really understand. Same goes for this whole "Martial Law" thing. I have to rely on what other people are saying about it. Frankly, I didn't think anything was wrong until TMM complained... I'm not even sure about what anymore... and I felt he had a valid point. The thing that bugs me is that I don't like to see the Obfuscates as a sort of BBS club. I gnow that's what it boils down to, but I hate that whole sort of thing. Everyone who isn't an Obfuscate falls into two classes: Those who are bitter because they aren't Obfuscates and those who have not been an Ob- fuscate for so long that they now hate the whole notion and constantly write bad things about the Obfuscates. Either way, instead of an appreciation for an art form, we've got a distain for an exclusive club. I guess I never felt that way. Well, I did. Before I was an Obfuscate, I really wanted to be one and kind of felt that it was an elitest club. (I think... That was awfully long ago) But eventually, I didn't care too much about the title and the status, I just appreciated the qualities that go along with the idea. That's why I virtually never sign-off --==OBFUSCATE==--. In fact, I've often stated that I was never really named an Obfuscate, but later you told me that back then it wasn't a matter of being voted in or offically declared or anything, it was just a matter of having access to the Temple. But I didn't make much of a stink about it because I liked to Obfuscate and whether or not I was an Obfuscate didn't matter. That's essentially how I want everyone to feel, though I gnow that's not the way humanity works. That fact is, whatever we want to call ourselves, we end up looking like an elitest BBS club and maybe that's all we are, anyway. So maybe that's why I'm a renegade in the stories. I dunno. Whatever. I just like to type. I don't want to deal with BBS politics any- more. Just give me the freedom to type and the rest shouldn't matter. Why do we keep so much information from the rest of the users, anyway? I understand maybe why we keep power from them... We don't want a random user enter "Boo" into the Quote-O-matic three hundred and seventeen times. But why are all of the Obfuscatronix secret? Are we just being elitest? That's fine, I suppose, seeing as how I've just distanced myself from BBS politics, but maybe what we need is to admit a few things. I think the idea of being an Obfuscate is stictly to Obfuscate. But if special BBS privledges come with being an Obfu- scate, what does that have to do with Obfuscating? Am I an Obfuscate because I do Obfuscatory things or am I an Obfuscate simply because I'm trusted with higher access? Is this what the whole Obfuscate/Dillusionist split was all about? Now I've just confused myself with moral issues, haven't I? Now I'm bring up other things. So let me just say before I lose sight of the beginning of this message: I don't really blame you, Hack Man, for anything. I've just been a bitch lately. I think everything's fine with the whole vote thing and I think everything's fine with previous appointments. I think if a user isn't around, he/she probably deserves what his/her inaction gives. As for the "new blood" thing, you gnow, when I first read that, I think I got the joke connotation, but I've already explained how sensitive I get when- ever someone calls into question the ability of us over-the-hill fogies to do our jobs. I shouldn't feel old and useless at the age of twenty one after all. And the more I type, the further into my mouth my foot goes. And we all gnow... I like to type A LOT! So I must be tasting ankle by about now. So don't worry about it anymore. Maybe I should start using those little smily faces so's to gain the right inflection... !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Typing junkie P.S: I just read your next message to Stranger concerning Dillusionists: Well, you gnow I disapprove of new subboards, so it would be self-defeating to support a new one, but I think instead I'll abstain so as not to incrim- inate myself while also not really committing to anything. And I don't see my standards as too high. It's just that sometimes people are considered for Obfuscation who haven't Obfuscated at all or don't even gnow what it means. If someone appears to understand the point and has posted a few good Obfuscatory things, then that's probably good enough, so long as it wasn't just to be an Obfuscate. (Remember that obnoxious bylaw of ours... If you want it... can't have it! Nyah!) My criteria on voting for new Obfuscates is usually: 1) Do they understand what Obfuscation is? 2) Have they Obfuscated in some unique way? Copying a style is usually not impressive unless they have done it differently or improved upon it. 3) Do I think they will continue to Obfuscate? This last one is usually the one that makes it look like I have high stand- ards. I don't want any Obfuscates who we will look at later and say, "Why is he/she an Obfuscate?" In this sense, perhaps you should consider four levels: A) COOL USER: Someone who doesn't quite get Obfuscating but is a regular user and someone we can trust with the Quote-O-Matic, Obfuscatronix, and all the political benefits currently held by Obfuscates. B) OBFUSCATE: Everyone's got their own definitions, but I think we all kind of agree in a conceptual sense. C) DILLUSIONIST: The hoopy froods. The creme de la Root Beer Milk. The kind of guys who think they're so hot that they can start making criticisms and catagories and rules and lists of requirements. D) GAVISCON AVISCENNA: A god among dieties. An impossible aspiration for anyone but Gav. Full sysop access to everything, plus a generous stipend mailed biweekly by all users to the P.O. Box listed in the Hall of Fame. ...Okay, you can eliminate that last one if you want. But actually the first three access levels are already being used by the board. Comments : HAHAHA=100 Message # 1145. Reply to #1144 Date: 09/27/93. Time: 00:26:43. Read 14 Times. From : Stranger To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED hahaha ... I like your level suggestions, except for the last one, of course. Stranger (But, being made newly elite, I'd like to keep Obfuscatronix for at least the level that I hold.) Message # 1146. Reply to #1143 Date: 09/28/93. Time: 18:58:37. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Mynk Lynx Subj : RECEIVED NO NEED TO. I RAIDED A DUPONT LABORATORY AND ATE EVERYTHING I COULD FIND. SINCE THEN I HAVEN'T NEEDED ANY VITAMINS, OR FOOD FOR THAT MATTER (EVEN THOUGH I STILL EAT IT FOR KICKS), OR AIR EITHER. OH, AND MY EYEBALLS EMIT MICROWAVES. AND MY BREATH SMELLS LIKE AIR FRESHENER. C- - - Message # 1149. Reply to #1144 Date: 09/28/93. Time: 19:22:21. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED THAT WAS A FINE OBFUSCATED MESSAGE. EVEN IF UNINTENTIONAL. AFTER FINISHING READING IT I HAVE NO IDEA HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE UNIVERSE IN GENERAL. LOOKING BACK ON IT I REALIZE THAT I PROBABLY DIDN'T GNOW HOW I FELT ABOUT THE UNIVERSE IN GENERAL ANYWAY BUT, AFTER I FINISHED READING IT I WAS SURE! C- - - Message # 1150. Reply to #1144 Date: 09/28/93. Time: 19:22:36. Read 19 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED AND ANOTHER THING.... BLAH. ANYWAY, I'M PERFECTLY WILLING TO TAKE THE WHOLE THING WITH AN UTTER LACK OF SERIOUSNESS AND BANISH ALL POLITICS. THIS IS MY NATURAL STATE OF OPERATION ANYWAY. IF EVERYBODY JUST PROMISES TO NEVER COMPLAIN ABOUT ANYTHING EVER AGAIN IN THEIR ENTIRE LIFE THEN WE WILL BE STYLING. ALSO, I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE THE NIFTY NEATO THINGS AVAILABLE TO MORE PEOPLE. ABOUT A WEEK AGO I MADE IT POSSIBLE TO GIVE QUOTE ENTERING STATUS TO ANYONE WHO ASKS FOR IT (AS LONG AS THEY ARE AT LEAST A LITTLE RESPONSIBLE) AND I POSTED A MESSAGE ABOUT IT. SO FAR ONLY SKURKEY AND MOJO HAVE SHOWED ANY INTEREST. ALSO, I MADE IT POSSIBLE TO DO COLORS, AND XY POSITIONING, AND SCREEN CLEARING, AND A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS USING STANDARD ANSI COMMANDS. ANYBODY CAN DO IT, BUT ONLY GIZMO AND A COUPLE OF OTHERS HAVE MADE ANY EFFORT TO. I WAS ONLY FOLLOWING THE GNOMISH TRADITION TO ONLY GIVE THE TRICKS AWAY TO THE OBFUSCATES. AND I CAUGHT ENOUGH HEAT EVEN AFTER I MADE THOSE FEW TRICKS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. ANYWAY, WHAT CAN YOU SAY ABOUT TRADITION OTHER THAN "IT'S THERE?" YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO BUCK TRADITION ARE YOU? THAT SOUNDS ALMOST OBFUSCATED. C- - - #1150. Message # 1151. Reply to #1137 Date: 09/29/93. Time: 04:00:00. Read 16 Times. From : Number Two To : HACK MAN Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED Well, your side of this whole "blame" thingie is much more convincing and if you were a castle under siege, I would say you hold out no matter how many cross-bow bolts were shoveled into your parapets. As for the Dillusionist sub and fan club, I say go for it. Then I have something to work for. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1152. Date: 09/30/93. Time: 01:57:41. Read 23 Times. From : Number Two To : The ledger taker Subj : List Add me to the list of missing Obfuscates, please. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1153. Reply to #1152 Date: 09/30/93. Time: 02:32:14. Read 18 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : List RECEIVED .....why? Stranger Message # 1154. Reply to #1153 Date: 10/04/93. Time: 23:12:31. Read 19 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : List RECEIVED Who wants to know ?? Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1155. Reply to #1154 Date: 10/05/93. Time: 00:48:00. Read 19 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : List RECEIVED Malaclypse the Younger and the Dealy Lama. Stranger Message # 1156. Reply to #1124 Date: 10/05/93. Time: 01:40:34. Read 15 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : HACK MAN Subj : RECEIVED Hey, like, aren't you God? Or at least, The Big Toe? Isn't this YOUR BBS? Why can't you decide? I think that I am seeing people in reminiscence. The call the boards for years, meet and get to gnow people, and then their lives change and they can't/don't call the boards for a period of time. When they call back, they find that some things have changed. It doesn't matter if it the thing that changes is certain other people that don't call any more and a lot of new people who call a lot, or if the bbs has a new format or a faster baud rate limit, someone is going to be dissappointed. Now, I miss DTRH. I miss being an *ELITE*/^Purple Hillian^. I miss the format of that bbs. But I have found a new home. Some place I feel comfortable (the strains of the "Cheers" theme song begins to play in the background), and someplace where everybody gnows my name, and spells words like "know" like "gnat". A place where our characters might as well be whatever anyone who writes stories perceives us to be. There have always been rules, written rules about who can become an Obfuscate. Like the fact that they can't ask to become one, or visably (in writing) appear to seek the title. We are all different and unique, and our differences are what make us amusing and interesting to one another, and they make us Obfuscates. No changes need to be made. I think things should go on just as they always have. Arwen Undomiel -==OBFUSCATE==- ....elipse abuser.... Message # 1157. Reply to #1137 Date: 10/05/93. Time: 01:41:07. Read 14 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : HACK MAN Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED Maybe a Dillusionist sub would make it so people who already Obfuscates based on their personalities, etc., could try harder to acheive Dillusionist-status. I do think however, that being an Obfuscate shouldn't be an something that is easily handed out for favor. I think that people should have to prove themselves, should show that they intend to call consistently, and should meet or exceed the prior level of obfuscation expected. Oh, and they should all gnow the correct definition of "Doink"... Message # 1158. Reply to #1155 Date: 10/05/93. Time: 17:51:50. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : List RECEIVED Funny, that's where I heard it..... Be Seeing You ?? (The Dealy Llama is Illuminati) Message # 1159. Reply to #1158 Date: 10/06/93. Time: 00:53:18. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : List RECEIVED No way...! Stranger (But then again, aren't we all?) I want to participate in Operation Mindfuck!! Message # 1160. Reply to #1159 Date: 10/06/93. Time: 22:12:08. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : List RECEIVED Well, I am not a part of that Corporation, but I have connections with a couple of cabals, and even an Episkopos. Would you like some mail ?? Be Seeing You ?? #1160. Message # 1161. Reply to #1160 Date: 10/07/93. Time: 00:07:13. Read 19 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : List RECEIVED Yes! Stranger Message # 1162. Reply to #1161 Date: 10/07/93. Time: 00:10:06. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : List RECEIVED Ok, I'll inform them....... Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1163. Date: 10/08/93. Time: 14:56:00. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two To : HACK MAN Subj : Resignation RECEIVED Because of certain things I have just become aware of recently (ie people talking a whole bunch of shit behind my back), I must resign my comission as an Obfuscate. I am not happy about doing this, but see it as mny only recourse. I enjoy certain people on this board too much to never call again, but I think you wont see very much of me, at least for awhile. I think this whole who should be an Obfuscate thing has been taken too far, and if you don't cut it out soon, it will probably end up destroying this board, and the "supposed" ideals of obfuscation. It's been nice, gents, but I gotta go...... Be Seeing You ?? Comments : HUH?=100 Message # 1164. Reply to #1163 Date: 10/08/93. Time: 14:59:35. Read 21 Times. From : Number Two To : Number Two Subj : Resignation RECEIVED Oh wait, that was a past life. Please disregard the last post. Be Seeing You ?? Comments : HAHAHA=100 OBFUSCATED=23 Message # 1165. Reply to #1164 Date: 10/08/93. Time: 18:49:20. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Number Two Subj : Resignation RECEIVED THAT'S CLASSIC! C- - - P.S. TO STEAL A PHRASE FROM TMM. Message # 1166. Date: 10/11/93. Time: 16:17:34. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : SUB BOARD PLANS WELL, I HAVEN'T YET HEARD ANY NEGATIVE OPINIONS ABOUT MAKING THE OBFUSCATE MEMBERSHIP EASIER TO GET INTO AND MAKING THE TITLE DILLUSIONIST COUNT FOR SOMETHING. SO, I HAVE A KIND A GENERALIZED PLAN, THE PLAN WAS THAT THERE WOULD BE A KIND OF STRATIFICATION OF SUB-BOARDS. BOARD A: OBFUSCATES CAN READ ONLY - DILLUSIONISTS CAN POST. BOARD B: ALL OBFUSCATES (INCLUDING DILLUSIONISTS) CAN POST. BOARD C: ALL OBFUSCATES CAN POST AND ALL OTHER USERS CAN READ ONLY. BOARD D: ANYBODY CAN POST. BOARD B WOULD BE PRIMARILY FOR PROCEDURAL TYPE INFO, VOTING, COMPLAINING, OBFUSCATRONIX HINTS, AND OTHER THINGS THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC SHOULDN'T SEE. BOARDS A,C,D WOULD BE FOR POSTING OBFUSCATED MESSAGES. PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO READ THE MESSAGES OF THOSE WHO ARE ON THE NEXT HIGHER LEVEL IN ORDER TO GAIN INSIGHT AND OTHER STUPID STUFF. AS FAR AS NAMES FOR THESE BOARDS, THE SUGGESTIONS SO FAR SAY: A = TEMPLE OF DILLUSION B = THE ASYLUM C = THE OBFUSCATORIUM D = THE WEIRD BOARD AS FAR AS THE NAMES GO I'M NOT SURE IF THE WEIRD BOARD WOULD BE GOOD TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PLAN ONLY BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET INTO. ALSO, I THINK THAT IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE TO COME UP WITH A BETTER NAME THAN "THE ASYLUM." ALSO, I CAN'T DECIDE IF "THE OBFUSCATORIUM" SHOULD BE BOARD B OR BOARD C OR MAYBE EVEN D. ANY SUGGESTIONS ON NAMES? NUMBER AND FUNCTIONS OF SUB BOARDS? PLACES WHERE I CAN FIND A GOOD PSYCHOLOGIST? ETC? C- - - Message # 1167. Reply to #1166 Date: 10/11/93. Time: 19:24:49. Read 16 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : SUB BOARD PLANS RECEIVED After thinking about if for a while, I decided that I don't like the idea of Obfuscate Status becoming easier to attain. I think that there a quite a few obfuscates who, while not being as obfuscated as a dillusionist, are still much better at obfuscating than someone who "just shows promise" and it'll be taking status (ugh) away from them. I'm not really commmitted to any one idea right now, just thinking that perhaps it's not actually that great of an idea to suddenly invalidate all the obfuscates except for the three currently calling dillusionists. Stranger Message # 1168. Reply to #1166 Date: 10/12/93. Time: 01:15:07. Read 19 Times. From : Number Two To : HACK MAN Subj : SUB BOARD PLANS RECEIVED My suggestion is this.... Add a separate board for Dillusionists ONLY.. No plain Obfuscates allowed, even to read. Then have a board for Dillusionists and Obfuscates, but for no one else. The just leave the weird board as a place to possibly recruit new Obfuscates. Anybody with real Obfuscate blood in them will gravitate there anyway, no matter how hard it is to get in. I don't like the idea of being "on display" so people can come to Hack's Zoo and see the Obfuscate's cage. In all honesty, I would avoid subs where I could post but most other people could just watch, and I would not read subs where I could not post for exactly the same reason, but in reverse. Basically, I say encourage Dillusion, encourage Obfuscation, but let's not make a 3 ring Circus out of it. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1169. Reply to #1168 Date: 10/12/93. Time: 17:09:30. Read 20 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : SUB BOARD PLANS RECEIVED Wow, I very much like your suggestions. It seems much more dignified, and much less limiting. Stranger Message # 1170. Reply to #1169 Date: 10/12/93. Time: 18:25:30. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : SUB BOARD PLANS RECEIVED WELL, WA. SORRY I DIDN'T MEAN TO MAKE IT SEEM UNDIGNIFIED. I JUST WANTED TO HAVE A SUB BOARD FOR QUALITY OBFUSCATED POSTS. MAYBE WHAT WOULD WORK WOULD BE A SUB JUST FOR DILLUSIONISTS AND A SUB JUST FOR ALL OBFUSCATES AND ANOTHER SUB WHERE ALL OBFUSCATES CAN POST AND OTHER USERS CAN ONLY READ. C- - - #1170. Message # 1171. Reply to #1170 Date: 10/12/93. Time: 20:35:29. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : SUB BOARD PLANS RECEIVED Keep in mind that I will go along with whatever you decide; I just think that there are more options available than what we are considering. Also, I'm a little troubled by the soon-to-become ease in attaining Obfuscate status. I agree that there should be something to help users along toward the goal, but I think it would kinda suck for all us Obfuscates who aren't exactly Dillusionist ability (the great majority of Obfuscates) but who are more than mere tyros. In conclusion, blah. I guess I really have two main points. The first one is "waa" and the second is blah! Stranger Message # 1172. Reply to #1058 Date: 10/13/93. Time: 07:41:23. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : RECEIVED A newfuscate is someone to replace the oldfuscates. Do you realize how difficult and unreliable fuscates are when they get old? They're like a favorite old sweater and a comfortable old easy chair. Moth eaten mollifiers they are, I tell you! And they make us believe that we actually WANT to keep them! Manipulation to the max! And we all need manipulation, so oldfuscates serve their purpose in society, even if society has yet to gnow that purpose, or even if society has no purpose, which then it's purposeless to talk of purpose in a purposeless society. It's like selling water to Oregon. The same with newfuscates. +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 1173. Reply to #1060 Date: 10/13/93. Time: 07:46:14. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED But I thought they were the same side of different avian coins, and what in the world are birds doing with coins anyways? It's bad enough they bomb us with their guano, but must we endure their lost change too?... +++Gravebuster Message # 1174. Reply to #1098 Date: 10/13/93. Time: 07:56:40. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : MORE RESEARCH. RECEIVED I remember that very well, too. I wasn't even looking to be an Obfuscate. I was just having fun. And then one day, while going through the BBS, I found I had access to the Temple of Dillusion. I at first thought it must have been a mistake, or maybe I didn't see it right. So I went back, and there it was. I was totally confused. It was great. +++Gravebuster Message # 1175. Reply to #1100 Date: 10/13/93. Time: 07:59:53. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : NEW "RULES" FOR APPROVING OBFUSCATES RECEIVED I prefer the old method. We kind of nominate. We kind of vote. We kind of discuss. And after all the kind of nominations, votes and discussions, you come along and make your own decision. There really isn't any need to prove whether any one of us obfuscates or not. That was done before the vote. There really isn't any need to prove whether or not we voted on someone's obfuscatory abilities. The only thing that needs to happen is that you see a person's obfuscation and that you decide to make that person an obfuscate. +++Gravebuster Message # 1176. Reply to #1124 Date: 10/13/93. Time: 08:04:23. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : RECEIVED Don't make this bureaucratic! Rules, argh! If anyone says that you're a dictator, they're wrong. You have a title that you pass out, like so many of us do. Yours is "--==OBFUSCATE==--." Just because you decide to give it to someone doesn't make you a dictator. You like to hear other people's ideas on the matters, and that's because you value the users on this BBS. The quickest I've seen anyone become an obfuscate, besides Unka Buck and myself which was totally unusual and obfuscatory, was Ubik, and he was very obvious. Besides those three, everyone else was nominated at least for a couple of weeks, and discussed offline at the Garage for a long time before that. I have a question. Exactly whose obfuscatory abilities are at question here? The only obfuscate I could see someone actually making a case about is peggy/CornMeal, and she does obfuscate on occasion, although it's very rare and you have to watch for it. Since every obfuscates' obfuscation is clear to me, I can only conclude that we're not dealing with the question of ability so much as personality conflicts. If that's the case, I suggest you tell the complaintants to put a pickle in it. But don't burden yourself with a bunch of rules that we will only bicker over. Pretty soon, we'll be using parliamentary rules here. ACK! How perspicuitous! +++Gravebuster Message # 1177. Reply to #1175 Date: 10/13/93. Time: 08:39:00. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : NEW "RULES" FOR APPROVING OBFUSCATES RECEIVED WELL, THERE ARE TWO MAIN POINTS TO THE RULES. A: TO LET OBFUSCATES GNOW THAT IF THEY CALL EVERY X NUMBER OF DAYS THEY WON'T BE LEFT OUT AND MISS ANY VOTES. B: THERE IS NOW A SECRET BALLOT TO AVOID HURTING ANYONE'S FEELINGS. C- - - Message # 1178. Reply to #1137 Date: 10/13/93. Time: 12:52:50. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED I think "dillusionist" is a title that belongs to Lex Luthor. He created it, let him worry about it. Since he hasn't called here for a long while, I don't think it's even worth mentioning. I don't think it's right for us to usurp it as if it's ours. That would be like someone moving and taking over your tag line of "--==OBFUSCATE==--." +++Gravebuster Message # 1179. Reply to #1139 Date: 10/13/93. Time: 12:55:20. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED What do you mean, "no?" That's what you said to me when I asked you about it. +++Gravebuster Message # 1180. Reply to #1179 Date: 10/13/93. Time: 15:51:45. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED ACTUALLY I DON'T REMEMBER THE DETAILS ON THAT. I THINK IT FIRST APPEARED IN ONE OF THE STORIES AS A KIND OF D&D TYPE CHARACTER. OBFUSCATE CAME FROM A PHONE CONVO ONE EVENING BETWEEN ME AND LORD CIRDAN WHEN WE WERE LOOKING THROUGH DICTIONARIES AND THESAURUSES TRYING TO FIND STRANGE WORDS THAT WE COULD USE. C- - - #1180. Message # 1181. Reply to #1178 Date: 10/13/93. Time: 15:57:34. Read 15 Times. From : Stranger To : Gravebuster Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED I disagree with you....there is a meaning behind the terms obfuscate and dillusionist, and if someone fits the description of dillusionist, then he should get it, whether or not this illusory mythical Lex Luthor decides yea or nay.... Stranger Message # 1182. Reply to #1144 Date: 10/13/93. Time: 17:24:09. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED Unless I'm wrong, I don't think you've experienced your yearly disaster yet. You came awfully close to experiencing the Klamath Lake earthquake, but you missed that by a month or so. Maybe the reason why disasters follow you around is not because someone is out to get you, but because someone gnows that you just wouldn't feel right without one. Maybe we could help. Maybe we could send letters to the news organizations about how Gaviscon needs a disaster to happen somewhere near Berkeley for his peace of mind.... I could go along with this. I like the term "cool user." But then again, other people would resent not being a "cool user." Gives people something else to gripe about. Oh, well.... +++Gravebuster Message # 1183. Reply to #1181 Date: 10/13/93. Time: 17:34:17. Read 16 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED Lex Luther is dead...!!! Long Live Lex Luther !!! Be Seeing You ?? Comments : HAHAHA=100 Message # 1184. Reply to #1166 Date: 10/13/93. Time: 17:45:56. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : SUB BOARD PLANS RECEIVED I'm against the whole scenario based on the history of "Dillusionist" that you told me. I'll wait till I catch up to give my full opinion. +++Gravebuster Message # 1185. Reply to #1177 Date: 10/13/93. Time: 17:49:50. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : NEW "RULES" FOR APPROVING OBFUSCATES RECEIVED I understand now why you want the votes "secret." It could hurt someone's feelings to find out that certain users didn't think they could obfuscate. I don't think the number of days has been any problem. The only user since I became an obfuscate who became an obfuscate very quickly was Ubik. The two newest obfuscates have been discussed for a long time before they became obfuscates, for at least thirty days. The main problem I have with rules is that someone will find something else that rather meaningless to complain about, and then we'll have to make a rule about that. Then someone else finds a new thing to complain about, then we'll have to make a rule about that. And then people will construe the rules differently. I wish everyone would just take this whole thing in perspective and just chill. You have done a great job selecting obfuscates. You listen to our inputs. I like that system. It's simple. It works. +++Gravebuster Message # 1186. Reply to #1182 Date: 10/13/93. Time: 17:59:44. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED HOW ABOUT, "SLIGHTLY COOLER THAN LUKEWARM USER." C- - - P.S. NO, TOO LONG. Message # 1187. Reply to #1180 Date: 10/13/93. Time: 17:58:58. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED Wait a minute. Don't you remember what you told me? You said that at first there were the dillusionists, and that Lex Luthor decided who became a dillusionist and who didn't. Then you found "obfuscate" in the dictionary, and you started "obfuscates," and basically everyone who was a dillusionist at the time also became an obfuscate. You told me this when we were discussing whether or not Mynk Lynx was a dillusionist, remember? That's how you answered the question. +++Gravebuster Message # 1188. Reply to #1185 Date: 10/13/93. Time: 18:01:00. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : NEW "RULES" FOR APPROVING OBFUSCATES RECEIVED WELL, I DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONE WHO SELECTS THEM. I DON'T REALLY CONSIDER MYSELF TO BE THE ONE WHO DOES THAT. THE OBFUSCATES ARE NOT A DICTATORSHIP OR MONARCHY. THAT'S MY MAIN POINT. NEITHER WERE THE DILLUSIONISTS. I MAY BE THE ONE WHO MAKES THE PROCLAMATION BUT NOT WITHOUT HAVING SOME KIND OF A VOTE/CONSENSUS OF WHOMEVER I CAN FIND. C- - - Message # 1189. Reply to #1181 Date: 10/13/93. Time: 18:01:31. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED No, tag lines are given out by the people who invented them. Even if what you say is true, then Lex Luthor is the one who gnew what those standards were. Anyone wanna call Japan to find out? I disagree with the whole "dillusionist" thing because "dillusionist" was Lex Luthor's tag line to give out. +++Gravebuster Message # 1190. Reply to #1187 Date: 10/13/93. Time: 18:03:23. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED LEX WAS HEAD OF THE DILLUSIONIST CLUB. C- - - #1190. Message # 1191. Reply to #1186 Date: 10/13/93. Time: 18:04:21. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED We could say "sctlu".... Well, maybe not say sctlu.... We could just post sctlu.... +++Gravebuster Message # 1192. Reply to #1188 Date: 10/13/93. Time: 18:05:27. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : NEW "RULES" FOR APPROVING OBFUSCATES RECEIVED You've always said this BBS was not a democracy.... Besides, that's what I've liked about you. You listen to us. When I said that you should make the decision, I didn't mean for you to change that part. That goes against who you are. On the same hand, I don't like this complaining about "I didn't get to say anything" about people who obviously obfuscate, and I don't like the idea of setting up "dillusionist" again without Lex Luthor, and I don't like making new subboards for things that should be happening on the current subboards we have, and I don't like rules for something that doesn't need them. +++Gravebuster Comments : WHO CARES=1 GIVE ME A BREAK!=1 BLAH=1 Message # 1193. Reply to #1190 Date: 10/13/93. Time: 18:09:04. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED Yes, go on.... +++Gravebuster Message # 1194. Reply to #1189 Date: 10/13/93. Time: 18:08:27. Read 20 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED Change is good and change is inevitable, but it's not neccessary to force it. Why must we change the way it works now?? We don't HAVE to, so we shouldn't. When a good plan or reason comes up, then let's change it. Of course, I am still sticking with my stance of wanting NO suns where a certain group can post, and everyone else can watch. I will avoid those subs like the plague. I would hate to be in a zoo, even an Obfuscate Zoo. Be Seeing You ?? Comments : WAY!=1 Message # 1195. Reply to #1183 Date: 10/14/93. Time: 03:40:16. Read 15 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED Lex Luthor cannot be dead because he, (along with other made-up people, like the Frammis Man and the Pizza Man) was created by actual Obfuscates so they could refer to "the good ol' days when Obfuscates obfuscated, unlike now, with these new whippersnappers" and then reminisce about the funny and obfuscated things that these imaginary people did. Stranger Message # 1196. Reply to #1189 Date: 10/14/93. Time: 03:43:24. Read 15 Times. From : Stranger To : Gravebuster Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED Tag lines are dumb and rarely used. If OBFUSCATE was a tagline, there would be no point to even obfuscating...and hardly anyone ever signs off with it...i think I have done so like 5 times! Stranger Anti-Tagline Message # 1197. Reply to #1196 Date: 10/14/93. Time: 05:01:13. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED Yoo're write. We shood yews obfewskit after hour messidges moor off-in. +++Greyvebussturr --==OBFEWSKIT==-- Comments : ZZZZZZZ=1 BLAH=1 Message # 1198. Reply to #1194 Date: 10/14/93. Time: 09:45:15. Read 19 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Number Two Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED DO YOU READ THE HALL OF FAME? C- - - Message # 1199. Reply to #1198 Date: 10/15/93. Time: 08:03:55. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED No one can post (except for you) in the Hall of Fame, HM. It's not what he's talking about. By "no suns," he means he doesn't want to post on a subboard where most users can only read. He feels it's a "zoo," meaning that his convos are for display instead of interaction. I'm just pointing out the difference between what he's complaining about and the Hall of Fame. Since no one (except for you) can post in the Hall of Fame, it's more like a "museum" than it is a "zoo." +++Gravebuster Message # 1200. Reply to #1198 Date: 10/15/93. Time: 12:42:16. Read 16 Times. From : Number Two To : HACK MAN Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED The Hall is different. Messages are moved there from different subs where everyone, or a certain group could ALL read AND post. Now certain posts are honored by being moved to the HAll, so everyone can look to them and say "Wow, that's cool". No one actually posts on the Hall anyway... Be Seeing You ?? #1200. Message # 1201. Reply to #1150 Date: 10/15/93. Time: 23:33:41. Read 19 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED Gee... I'm glad I could make your life a little more surreal. (I used that phrase on an EXTREMELY drunk girl riding on the bus the other day and she just stared blankly at me for a few moments then giggled herself to sleep) Well, I probably don't care anymore, but I've stopped being interested enough to find out. What it all comes down to in the end is just a bunch of loonies Obfuscating up a smog alert and trying not to seem elitest. So if we fail, then what the hell? Tomorrow's another millenium. Shave and a haircut and all that rot. As for bucking tradition, I think only the spirit of tradition should be considered. What I mean is, I think we should give away all our secrets as if they didn't matter to us and make up a whole slew of new and improved secrets for people to be jealous about. For instance, we could make a pact to ALL start mentioning repeatedly, "How about that Thomas Dolby?" The new and improved secret would be that there is no secret and that we're just typing it to make people wonder. We'd of course have to say things like, "Only the Obfuscates gnow the secret of that Thomas Dolby? How about that Thomas Dolby, anyway?" Vat do you zink? !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -How about that Thomas Dolby? Message # 1202. Reply to #1201 Date: 10/16/93. Time: 02:01:41. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED naw, sounds dumb. Let's be reactionary. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1203. Date: 10/16/93. Time: 10:27:09. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : A Dissertation On What Is Not Obfuscation Since, by definition, one cannot define what obfuscation is, which brings up a quandary, in that, if we cannot define obfuscation, then how do we gnow what that definition of obfuscation is that prevents us from defining obfuscation if obfuscation cannot be defined, which is very obfuscating, and besides, one can always define what obfuscation means to them, even if a universal definition of obfuscation eludes us, but by defining obfuscation, one is clarifying obfuscation, and later is exposed to obfuscation that is beyond the scope of the private definition, and thus must either conclude that there are different ways of obfuscation, or become bullheaded and insist that the Magna Carta was actually a Johnny Carson opening monologue that fell through a breach in the fabric of time, as if time wears clothes, so maybe the phrase should be "a breech in the fabric of time," and can't you see time in a pair of breeches, but that is all beside the point, which is, since by definition, one cannot define what obfuscation is, as paradoxical as that statement may be, we could instead proceed on a conversation as to what is not obfuscation, such as doggie biscuits are not obfuscation, although I'm sure that one can use doggie biscuits to obfuscate, such as if one were to state how if it weren't for doggie biscuits, none of us would exist, just a thought, you gnow, in fact, it is probably true that everything one can mention can be used for the aim of obfuscation, which only goes to show that the paradox is true, that by definition, obfuscation cannot be defined, so let me close with this last thought.... How about that Thomas Dolby? +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 1204. Reply to #1201 Date: 10/16/93. Time: 11:07:50. Read 15 Times. From : Stranger To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED I don't mind being elitist. And openly, too! Stranger heh Message # 1205. Reply to #1182 Date: 10/16/93. Time: 14:34:40. Read 19 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : Gravebuster Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED If we worried about things from the perspective of whether or not users would complain about it, I doubt we'd get anything done. WHO CARES IF THEY COMPLAIN! LET THEM EAT PIZZA! Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym p.s. complaining is like whining, and I don't like that anymore... Message # 1206. Date: 10/17/93. Time: 17:06:57. Read 13 Times. From : Stranger To : All Subj : Obfuscate Status I would like to formally suggest Ghost for obfuscate. If you need proof of his Obfuscation, take a look at the Weird Board, although I'd say that at least 80 percent of his posts are extremely obfuscated! Stranger Message # 1207. Date: 10/17/93. Time: 18:39:37. Read 20 Times. From : Stranger To : All Subj : oh yeah I would also like to point out Mojo's recent tries at Obfuscation. Message number 895 on the Phlegmatic Roos sub was his best, I think, but he's been trying a lot. I know Number Two looks down on his style, but I think it's pretty funny. Stranger (This isn't a nomination--I just think he should be encouraged.) Message # 1208. Reply to #1207 Date: 10/18/93. Time: 01:43:39. Read 15 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : oh yeah RECEIVED No, I don't look down on his style, I am just skeptical of his sudden and complete change in posting style. My first thought was that he was trying to see if he could become an Obfuscate by trying to become an Obfuscate (which is actually very Obfuscatory), but now I am unsure. And I don't mean to try to make him stop his silliness, it just seemed a little formulaic to me. That's all. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1209. Reply to #1208 Date: 10/18/93. Time: 02:16:16. Read 16 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : oh yeah RECEIVED I think what suddenly spurred him was the fact that he could very well become an Obfuscate, just simply by trying. Many people think that there is actually no real chance of ever becoming one, so why even bother? Once I let him know that it was possible, he started to do it, and even enjoys it. Stranger Message # 1210. Date: 10/18/93. Time: 07:33:07. Read 20 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : Nominations, Commendations, Formulae and the Weird Board RECEIVED I wondered when someone would formally nominate Ghost. People have mentioned his obfuscatory posts for over a month now. I've seen one or two posts on the Story Board that show promise, but I guess I have to read the Weird Board to find out exactly what's going on. Another thing to do. The same can be said about Mojo. I've seen some zany posts from him in the past. It would be interesting to see if he developed tha zaniness into some sort of obfuscation. Is his subboard now "phlegmatic roos?" I feel like a monk in a monastery--is there an outside world? If his posts currently are formulaic, then it would be just a matter of time before they become natural, if he keeps it up and if he feels comfortable with it. +++Gravebuster #1210. Message # 1211. Reply to #1210 Date: 10/18/93. Time: 16:02:58. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : Gravebuster Subj : Nominations, Commendations, Formulae and the Weird Board RECEIVED I don't feel that they are formulaic myself...as far as the difference between humor and obfuscation, it's a very fine line with some people...probably what a lot of people consider obfuscation, I just think of as humorous, but who am i to quibble? Stranger Message # 1212. Reply to #1209 Date: 10/18/93. Time: 20:17:24. Read 15 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : oh yeah RECEIVED Good, then I hope he continues to try until it just becomes second nature. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1213. Reply to #1211 Date: 10/19/93. Time: 06:40:14. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : Nominations, Commendations, Formulae and the Weird Board RECEIVED Who are you to quibble? Why, you're Stranger, that's who you are, and if you have a line of reasoning, an objection made, a distinction drawn, a point advanced or something like that which evades, shifts from, or obscures the real point at issue in some discussion or argument by reason of centering on what is relatively unimportant and often petty or totally irrelevant and that is marked typically by hedging or equivocation, or for that matter, if you should raise a minor objection or piece of criticism arising typically from an exaggerated tendecy to find fault, then you would quibble in a Stranger-ish fashion, I do expect, which may be unlike you (to quibble, that is (I did not mean that it wasn't you to quibble in a Stranger-ish fashion (nor do I mean that it wasn't you to be Strangerish)), however I think you gnow that), but then, you being Stranger should allow you to be strange at times, and so it would be perfectly strange if on occasion you quibbled, albeit, that's not who you are, so why quibble?... +++Gravebuster Comments : HAHAHA=1 Message # 1214. Reply to #1199 Date: 10/19/93. Time: 08:59:43. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED HMM, MAYBE WE NEED A ZOO. C- - - Message # 1215. Reply to #1201 Date: 10/19/93. Time: 09:03:26. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED SOUNDS COOL TO ME. BEING SORT OF DEAD AND ALL I THINK YOU WOULD BE THE LOGICAL ONE TO CONTACT THE SPIRIT OF TRADITION. LET HIM GNOW THAT WE'D LIKE TO CONSIDER HIM. C- - - Message # 1216. Reply to #1210 Date: 10/19/93. Time: 09:07:22. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Nominations, Commendations, Formulae and the Weird Board RECEIVED WE ARE ALL MOBIUS BEINGS, EVERYTHING IS ON THE INSIDE. C- - - Message # 1217. Reply to #1211 Date: 10/19/93. Time: 09:08:08. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : Nominations, Commendations, Formulae and the Weird Board RECEIVED I BETTER NOT CATCH YOU QUIBBLING UNTIL YOU SHOW ME A PROPERLY ENDORSED QUIBBLING LICENSE. C- - - Message # 1218. Reply to #1216 Date: 10/19/93. Time: 12:53:16. Read 16 Times. From : Number Two To : HACK MAN Subj : Nominations, Commendations, Formulae and the Weird Board RECEIVED No, I am a Moebius Strip put out to catch Bottleneck flies. Be Seeing You ?? Comments : HAHAHA=100 Message # 1219. Reply to #1214 Date: 10/19/93. Time: 15:57:19. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED I told Mojo that I think the Pneurologic Roos should be turned into the Bestiary or the Zoo because of all of the loose animals. (You can't have loose animals loose--they create more animals with lax morals.) Stranger Message # 1220. Reply to #1217 Date: 10/19/93. Time: 15:58:41. Read 16 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : Nominations, Commendations, Formulae and the Weird Board RECEIVED Darn it, I failed my quibble test 3 times !! Stranger (Not the written part...) #1220. Message # 1221. Reply to #1214 Date: 10/20/93. Time: 07:27:16. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED No, we don't need a zoo. We need people to obfuscate on the obfuscatoreum. If people don't already obfuscate on a subboard where they're supposed to obfuscate, what makes you think that they'll obfuscate if you simply create a subboard where they can obfuscate and no one else can even post? No, we don't need a zoo. What we need to do is obfuscate. Especially YOU!... :) Seriously, if you, I, TMM and others started to obfuscate, then that would encourage even more people to obfuscate. Encourage obfuscation by example. If you create a "zoo," it'll go for a month or so and then it will die. Then there'll be more dead subboards. Your method really doesn't achieve your end. If you want to encourage more participation, you need to participate. Obfuscate! +++Gravebuster Message # 1222. Reply to #1216 Date: 10/20/93. Time: 07:32:40. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Nominations, Commendations, Formulae and the Weird Board RECEIVED Ah! So we never have to step outside the confines of our rooms again, as since everything is on the inside, then we can take care of everything from within ourselves, including our shopping, our dishes, our laundry, our food preparation, our work. Nevermind the telephone ringing, answer it from inside yourself. We have the power within us to affect all aspects of our condition because all aspects of our condition are within us which makes the space within pretty large and I didn't gnow that Los Angeles International Airport could fit in there and we lose our jobs, we starve, our clothes stink, our dishes attract flies and we never have anything that we need but all of this is illusory because inside we have everything because everything is inside, and it's all one big thing anyway! And how about that Thomas Dolby? +++Gravebuster Message # 1223. Date: 10/21/93. Time: 14:41:31. Read 21 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Hey, Waiter! Take Back This Glass! It's Only Half Full! Your choice, and the choices of bezillions beings around you, as well as the nomic manipulations of bezillions and bezillions of lifeless matter by a pattern we call the laws of nature, have converged together to bring you to this point by chance. Beyond this point, you will enter a world that you will shape as you choose, as your destiny unfolds by coincidences. You will gnow, you will think, you will believe, you will feel and you will do a bezillion things to interact with the beings and the lifeless matter around you, while every being and every lifeless matter will simulataneously interact with bezillions of other beings and things until everyone and everything can do nothing. Your mind shall explore this reality, a reality that will be distorted by your mind, a distortion that in your mind will be the reality, no matter how reality actually is. In other worlds, what is real is all in your mind, and we are all in HACK MAN's mind, because we are figments, even though we are real. You have entered The Ado, where there is much ado about nothing. Welcome, and gnow that we think you're special. +++Gravebuster Comments : OBFUSCATED=42 Message # 1224. Date: 10/21/93. Time: 17:16:31. Read 18 Times. From : Stranger To : All Subj : Ghost for Obfuscate Welp, there doesn't seem to be much discussion about the aforementioned subject, so perhaps we should just (in accordance with the new revised and reupholstered rules for Obfuscate status-creation) send in our secret ballot votes to the esteemed Hack Man, in the form of private email! Do it! Dooo eet! I tell you, man, do eet! Stranger Message # 1225. Reply to #1205 Date: 10/21/93. Time: 18:06:25. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Mynk Lynx Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED You're absolutely right. I mean, why complain when you can whine? I say, if you're going to do soemthing, then you should do it all the way!... +++Gravebuster Comments : GIVE ME A BREAK!=1 Message # 1227. Date: 10/21/93. Time: 18:29:52. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Last Time I'll Mention This Publicly Unless Asked I'm against the plan of obfuscate/dillusionist and additional boards for the following reasons: 1. Adding new subboards, especially subboards where other users can look in while obfuscates obfuscate, will probably not increase obfuscation in the long run, and very little in the short run . The solution does not address the problem. 2. Creating new levels of users will not stop people from complaining that they're not part of the "elite." It will simply create a new, lower level elite to complain about. Again, the solution does not address the problem. 3. There is already two subboards where obfuscates can display their obfuscation. It's not for a lack of forum that there hasn't been as much obfuscation. I think that if obfuscates begin to obfuscate, then the obfuscation will breed more obfuscation. 4. The "obfuscate" status should not be made easier to attain. The unofficial standard already is that the user in question should obfuscate, and that the user does obfuscation naturally and not out of a desire to be an obfuscate. 5. I strongly feel that "dillusionist" belongs to Lex Luthor, and that we should not usurp other users tag lines. The best way to increase obfuscation is to obfuscate. If that isn't motivation enough, then we have problems that can't be solved by new subboards and elite levels. +++Gravebuster Comments : GROAN.=1 Message # 1228. Reply to #1227 Date: 10/21/93. Time: 22:37:08. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : Gravebuster Subj : Last Time I'll Mention This Publicly Unless Asked RECEIVED The only one that I really disagree with is #5. Stranger Comments : BLAH=1 Message # 1229. Date: 10/22/93. Time: 07:42:16. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Violence We humans hate murder and violence. We bemoan the loss of loved ones, of friends, of celebrities, of pets and of life in general. We watch thousands of fictional characters get brutalized and killed each year. We call this entertainment. We kill people who prevent us from having our own way during our crimes, and gangbangings, and conflicts, and terrorisms and war. We call this necessary and some even make careers out of it. We revere life, and yet we spit in its face. It's obvious that all humanity suffers from a severe schizophrenia, so I suggest that we all get on our cosmic psychiatrist's couches and pour out our feelings. Then we can all get up, better for the experience, and continue to revere life like we always have. +++Gravebuster Message # 1230. Reply to #1229 Date: 10/22/93. Time: 12:08:24. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Violence RECEIVED PERHAPS WE COULD ENCOURAGE A NEW KIND OF CRIMINAL. SOMEONE WHO HOLDS YOU UP SO THAT YOU WILL STAND STILL AND LISTEN WHILE THEY EXPLAIN THEIR CHILDHOOD AND THEIR PROBLEMS. C- - - Comments : HAHAHA=100 OBFUSCATED=23 #1230. Message # 1231. Reply to #1227 Date: 10/22/93. Time: 22:15:02. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Last Time I'll Mention This Publicly Unless Asked RECEIVED I agree with Gravie (but then again he's giving me a ride home so I'll agree to just about anything...just about) Be Seeing You ?? Comments : HAHAHA=1 DOINK=9000 Message # 1232. Date: 10/23/93. Time: 15:32:00. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Barney Evangelism Do yourself and the world a favor today, and go up to every person you meet, and cheerfully greet them with a smile and a message that will change their dreary lives: "Barney loves you, and I love you, too!" Don't forget to use mouthwash and pick out that piece of spinach between your teeth. +++Gravebuster Message # 1233. Date: 10/24/93. Time: 10:11:58. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Money? If money is absent from your wallet (and for most of us, that is a continuing problem) then perhaps it is no problem at all, because the love of money is the root of all evil (although the lack of money often increases ones desire and love for money (but it doesn't have to)), and because the possession of money tends to stir deeply rooted American values taught to us by our educational system and television that we are consumers and must by things (a very unhealthy deeply rooted American value, too (we don't save nearly as much as we should (and we buy far more things than we need (and we often label things as "needs" that are merely "wants" (and these wants are such that we run up excessive credit bills (or, if we don't have credit, we want it (which brings us back to the love of money bit again (the love of credit is the root of all stupidity (but not all credit is stupid (for example, my own....)))))))), and that it increases the weight of our wallets, causing us to carry extra mass so earth's gravity can suck on us even more. Without this money, we have an opportunity to learn to do with what we have, to learn to manage our resources better, to learn to curve those unhealthy desires, and to declare bankruptcy and wreck our credit for the next ten years. If enough of us declare bankruptcy, we could eliminate the concept of credit from our nation and have a better economy as a result (except for the good use of credit (we should continue the good use of credit (I use my credit well....))). So, for the sake of the country, I suggest that those of us with no money in our wallets should take the time and reflect on these things. And for those of us with money, let's go and spend it. +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 1234. Reply to #1215 Date: 10/24/93. Time: 13:59:17. Read 15 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : HACK MAN Subj : Concerning Obfuscation... RECEIVED Are you kidding? Dead people have been shunning me ever since the... um... accident. But the Spirit of Tradition is more of an embodiment of an idea, a personification, if you will... (You don't have to, though). I'm sure if I can get ahold of him, he will be very pleased. He's always been a little bit miffed that he was left out of a Christmas Carol. There was the Spirit of Christmas Past, Present, and Future. He always thought it should have been the Spirit of Christmas Tradition, Office Parties, and Hangovers. (He and his brothers). But the Spirit of Tradition, quite frankly, is a lousy actor. (He's always using old styles). But I hear he's quite fond of Thomas Dolby. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -How about that Thomas Dolby, anyway? Comments : HAHAHA=1 Message # 1235. Date: 10/24/93. Time: 13:59:35. Read 19 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : All Subj : Actually, I don't remember what this post is about anymore... Odd. I disagree with the "leaving Dillusionist to Lex" idea. After all, if Hack Man hadn't started up the Retreat, but there was some other place for us to go, should we have let the Obfuscates die out? Lord Cirdan isn't here, and I associate the Obfuscates with Lord Cirdan, so should we wait for him to make all decisions regarding the Obfuscates? There was a certain understanding when the Gnome's Castle was around, that anyone with access to the Temple was both a Dillusionist and an Obfuscate. (I think). Actually, I never really gnew that--I was too busy having fun to notice that there were titles and politics and stuff. I don't recall think- ing about it the same way back then. We kind of invented the concepts and tried to practice them. Sticking a title at the end of your sign-off wasn't so regulated. If someone wanted to be an Anti-Jerk, they just signed off that way. I don't really gnow, because back then I think I signed off, "The Anti-Club Member" or something like that. So, if you're looking to follow the Spirit of Tradition (who won't return my calls...) then you're talking about keeping it alive even if the inventor is gone. But I don't think that's what I meant to talk about in this message... Oh yeah, I wanted to talk about Ghost. Give it at least a month or so be- fore voting. Remember, this board moves at a completely different pace for some of us. Just because you get to call three times a day doesn't mean a topic has stopped being discussed if no one has addressed it anytime in the past half hour. You haven't even giving it a week! I gnow, because I call once a week. I would appreciate it if someone could collect what they think are some of the more Obfuscated posts of Ghost from the Weird Board and post them here. (Stranger? You're the one with the nomination). Given my financial and my geographic situation, it's extremely inconvenient for me to try to read the messages in the Weird Board. (Especially now that I'm trying out QWK mail reading). Ghost has posted a weird thing or two before, but he hasn't made much of an impression on me the same way he seems to have for people who read the Weird Board. I'd like the benefit of some of those examples before I make my vote. I think it would be a good idea, in general, for people who nominate other users to cite examples of Obfuscation, like Stranger did for Mojo about the message in the Pneumatic Roos. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Oh yeah, it was to Gravebuster and Stranger, for the most part... Message # 1236. Reply to #1235 Date: 10/25/93. Time: 05:09:49. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Actually, I don't remember what this post is about anymore... Odd. RECEIVED You asked. Let me make it personal to you. Would you appreciate it if someone began dolling out "margin master?" Aside from that, HACK MAN and Lord Cirdan currently have a dispute about "obfuscate." Lord Cirdan contends he was the one who found the word, while HACK MAN distinctly remembers they both were looking through the dictionary when he found the word. So, the issue you raised depends on which of these two you believe has the better memory. I personally think that HM would not think he did something that he didn't do. +++Gravebuster --==margin misfit==-- Comments : RASPBERRYS=1 Message # 1237. Date: 10/25/93. Time: 05:18:01. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Amoral Obfuscation Can obfuscation be used evilly? I'm thinking particularly of Clinton's decision to send 5,000 more troops to Somalia so he can withdraw troops from Somalia. That strikes me as pretty obfuscated, and maybe is a downright farrago. I could probably think of other instances given time. Is there anything about obfuscation that precludes evil? +++Gravebuster Message # 1239. Reply to #1232 Date: 10/25/93. Time: 17:45:07. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Barney Evangelism RECEIVED I WONDER? IS BARNEY A CARNIVORE? C- - - Comments : WAY!=1000 Message # 1240. Reply to #1233 Date: 10/25/93. Time: 17:49:37. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Money? RECEIVED BENJAMIN FRANKLIN SAID SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT THAT WEALTH SHOULD ONLY BE ACCUMULATED SO THAT YOU CAN DO GOOD WORKS WITH IT. I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE, SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY MONEY THAT THEY CAN'T PUT TO GOOD USE SEND IT TO THE GARAGE AND IT WILL BE USED TO BENEFIT THE RETREAT. C- - - #1240. Message # 1241. Reply to #1235 Date: 10/25/93. Time: 17:53:50. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Actually, I don't remember what this post is about anymore... Odd. RECEIVED THERE ARE A LOT OF OBFUSCATED POSTS FROM GHOST. A FEW OF THEM ARE ON THE HALL OF FAME. STRANGER AND I WILL FIND SOME MORE AND PUT THEM IN HERE AND/OR THE HALL. C- - - Comments : WAY!=1 Message # 1242. Date: 10/25/93. Time: 18:33:13. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : BY THE WAY I AM THE OBFUSCA-SYSKING AND YOU ARE ALL LORDS OF OBFUSCATION. C- - - Message # 1244. Reply to #1240 Date: 10/25/93. Time: 19:17:31. Read 16 Times. From : Number Two To : HACK MAN Subj : Money? RECEIVED Well, if I ever come into wealth two things will become more prevalent because of the slack: Material things will come easy to friends, and Discord would rear it's ugly bloated lunch sack head "corporately", and will join the Catholic church and the Mormon church among the esteemed group of religious corporations. Discordian lobbyists littering the places where laws are made. Of course, it would have to start small. Causing scandals to all of the current city council members in Camarillo, until we can get enough of our people more prevalent and into those spots soon to be vacated, would finally break the death grip "Seizure Village" has on the city. From there, the rest of the county is easy, and once the ball is rolling it just will not be able to be stopped, and eventually obfuscates like us will be out of work, because people will just have to follow "any" of the myriad of new laws that will get institued, or just keep on obeying the ones that get repealed to get obfuscated. It will all be done at a higher level, one that we can't be touched from, and one where all we have to do is sit back and reap the benefits. The revolution has begun. Be Seeing You ?? Comments : HAHAHA=1 Message # 1245. Reply to #1242 Date: 10/25/93. Time: 20:05:49. Read 16 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : BY THE WAY RECEIVED Can I be a Ford of Obluscation? Stranger Message # 1246. Reply to #1244 Date: 10/25/93. Time: 20:56:23. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Number Two Subj : Money? RECEIVED HEY! STOP THE REVOLUTION! THE ROOM JUST KEEPS SPINNING AROUND AND AROUND AND IT'S MAKING ME SICK! C- - - Comments : HAHAHA=1 Message # 1247. Reply to #1245 Date: 10/25/93. Time: 20:57:11. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : BY THE WAY RECEIVED SURE, YOU CAN BE THE FERRARI IF YOU WANT. C- - - Message # 1248. Reply to #1247 Date: 10/25/93. Time: 23:16:21. Read 15 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : BY THE WAY RECEIVED No, that wouldn't do at all. Stranger Obfuscate American Message # 1249. Reply to #1239 Date: 10/26/93. Time: 18:47:29. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Barney Evangelism RECEIVED A carnosauria, or perhaps a carnifex, with a carnal carnival with carnelian carnations and carnauba wax.... No, I don't think so. His name is Barney, not Carney. Thus, he must eat barns!... +++Gravebuster --==did you gnow that "barney" is a British word that means either a boisterous argument or a noisy good time?==-- Message # 1250. Reply to #1240 Date: 10/26/93. Time: 18:53:21. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Money? RECEIVED Uh, HM, excuse me, but, uh, I thought that money was, uh, supposed to benefit the Retreat, so, uh, why are you pocketing it? Oh, I get it. You're keeping the money in a safe place!... +++Gravebuster #1250. Message # 1251. Reply to #1242 Date: 10/26/93. Time: 18:55:34. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : BY THE WAY RECEIVED Shall we have a holiday?... +++Gravebuster --==why should we understand it when all we need to do is believe it==-- Message # 1252. Date: 10/26/93. Time: 18:57:54. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Mysterious Ways I would like to propose to all of you today that the song, "Mysterious Ways", off U2's album "Achtung Baby", is not about a woman but is actually about God. Now, I gnow what some of you may be thinking when I say that. Some of you are rolling your eyes and saying to yourselves that GB's gone off the deep end this time. Others may be thinking that since I post this on the Temple of Dillusion, that I'm only kidding. But I think you should hear me out before you dismiss my observations as religious fanaticism or obfuscation. There is a precedent to this line of reasoning. On "War," there is a song called "Drowning Man" where the person sings presumably to a drowning man to take his hand, for the storms will pass and his love will last forever. It's a clever way of recounting what happened when Jesus walked on the water and Peter wanted to do the same, all from Jesus' point of view. And another song on the same album, "40", takes its lyrics from Psalm 40. Indeed, Bono often uses religious imagery throughout his lyrics, although I daresay he regards Christianity more from a Irish mystical, political point of view rather than an American evangelical, literal point of view. I will take the title, verses, bridges and choruses one by one and comment on how they better describe God than a woman. First, the title itself. The term "mysterious ways" in our language has typically been used of God--"God moves in mysterious ways," wrote the English poet William Cowper in his collaboration with hymn writer John Newton. The pronoun "she" is a bit troubling since the overwhelming Hebrew and Greek pronouns to describe God are masculine. However, there are a few passages in the Bible that describe God in feminine terms, particularly the references to Wisdom in Proverbs 1:20-33 and His comparison of Himself to a mother in Isaiah 66:12-13. The latest edition of the Revised Version translation of the Bible disregards the masculine pronouns of the original text and alternates "he" and "she" in reference to God in an attempt at equality. Thus, if Bono was aware of these things, it is conceivable that he decided to have fun with Cowper's famous quotation and use "she" as a reference to God. "Johnny take a walk with your sister the moon Let her pale light in to fill up your room You've been living underground/eating from a can You've been running away from what you don't understand" Although this verse can be taken as a sexual metaphor, that Johnny should let a woman light up his room since he is so sexually repressed, I suggest that you consider these questions: Why "sister?" Why call a lover a "moon?" The moon is fat and round; is Bono saying fat woman do it better? Any port in a time of storm? Come now.... However, one can take this verse from a religious viewpoint, and consider the role of natural revelation in describing to a man the nature of God. There is a religious precedence of calling the moon "sister" in the Catholic chorus "Brother Sun And Sister Moon," which celebrates how "heaven and earth proclaim God's glory." From this viewpoint, the verse takes on a decidedly different slant, that Johnny should let the moon share the wonder of God with him, since he's been ignoring God throughout his life and is the worse for it. "She's slippy You're sliding down She'll be there When you hit the ground." "Slippy" could be British slang for "alive, awake, alert," but it probably means "slippery" because of "you're sliding down." One could take this to mean that this woman is so seductive that the man cannot help himself, but consider this: since when has sex been characterized as "hitting the ground?" A man could really hurt himself that way, especially if she isn't there at the time.... However, one could also take this bridge from a religious view. God is "slippy," in that He is inescapable and is forever drawing humanity to Him, and even in your lowest moments, God will be there. "It's alright... it's alright... it's alright She moves in mysterious ways" If this song is about a way a woman seduces a man, Johnny must be one nervous kid to need so many reassuring "it's alright, it's alright"s. However, in relations with an almighty, all-powerful, all-knowing God, the repetitive assurances become more understandable in light of man's natural apprehension when faced with God's incredible transcendence. "Johnny take a dive with your sister in the rain Let her talk about the things you can't explain To touch is to heal/To hurt is to steal If you want to kiss the sky better learn how to kneel... (On your knees boy!)" Now, one can say this verse encourages Johnny to get quite kinky, having sex out in the rain, and getting into some sado-masochism at the end there. But what are the things you can talk about but can't explain? Certainly sex is something that can be talked about. How does a touch heal? In S&M, hurt is good, but in the verse claims that "to hurt is to steal," which is bad. And what does it mean by "kiss the sky"? A synonym for "ring the bell"? I think the religious viewpoint serves the words far better. Again, the imagery of nature teaching us about God is used in the first two lines. The poem "Brother Sun and Sister Moon" even mentions "fair and storm all weather's moods." A gentle touch is a positive action that demonstrates God's love. A hurt steals; it is negative, it is sinful and it robs a creature of the love it needs. "Kiss the sky" then is a metaphor of having an intimate relationship with God, which starts with prayer, the typical position of which is kneeling. "She's the wave She turns the tide She sees the man inside the child" Where's the view of the woman going to go now? Are we having sex in the waterbed? And are we talking about experienced woman with inexperienced boy? That Johnny is a boy, and by having sex with the woman, he's able to bring out "the man inside the child?" It's easy to see that God causes the movements of the universe, and thus the tides, and thus the waves, and God not only sees us for what we are, but for what we can and will be. "It's alright... it's alright... it's alright... She moves in mysterious ways It's alright... it's alright... it's alright... Lift my days... light up my nights" Sure, sex partners can lift up days and light up nights--they can also bring them down like so much deadweight. They not only can bring them down, they can tear them down with their bare hands and smash them into iddy biddy bits until we want to cry because it hurts so much. However, God promises that "the sun shall no longer be your light by day, nor for brightness shall the moon give light to you; but the LORD will be to you an everlasting light, and your God your glory. Your sun shall no longer go down, nor shall your moon withdraw itself; for the LORD will be your everlasting light, and the days of your mourning shall be ended." (Isaiah 60:19,20). "One day you'll look Back and you'll see Where you were held How by this love While you could stand there And not move on this moment Follow this feeling" Sex can be a life-changing experience. So can an accident with a Mac truck. It depends on who one has sex with, whether it is something memorable, or something best forgotten. However, a relationship with God is life-changing, and though nothing may happen at the moment the relationship begins, one can look back over the years and see the loving hand of God throughout. "It's alright... it's alright... it's alright... She moves in mysterious ways It's alright... it's alright... it's alright... We move through miracle days Spirit moves in mysterious ways She moves with it She moves with it Lift my days and light up my nights" Well, if the sex theme is to be followed, we now have miracle days guided by some spirit that the woman moves with that lifts the days and lights the nights. Uh huh, yeah, right.... Miracles are supernatural, the province of God, and God is Spirit. Nothing more needs to be said about it. Now I finish with this analysis, and you are left with the question; am I fanatically serious, am I obfuscating, or is there something to what I've posted?... +++Gravebuster --=="Oh mama move me..."==-- Message # 1253. Reply to #1252 Date: 10/27/93. Time: 13:39:30. Read 21 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Mysterious Ways RECEIVED The Moon is my lover..... has been since childhood Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1254. Reply to #1249 Date: 10/27/93. Time: 19:18:55. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Barney Evangelism RECEIVED NO, I DISAGREE... OBVIOUSLY HIS NAME IS BARNEY BECAUSE HE HANGS OUT IN BARS! C- - - Message # 1255. Reply to #1251 Date: 10/27/93. Time: 19:20:28. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : BY THE WAY RECEIVED THE PROBLEM IS I CAN USUALLY UNDERSTAND IT EVEN WHEN I DON'T BELIEVE IT. C- - - Message # 1256. Reply to #1252 Date: 10/27/93. Time: 19:23:14. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Mysterious Ways RECEIVED YOU ARE SERIOUSLY FANATICALLY OBFUSCATING. C- - - Message # 1257. Reply to #1253 Date: 10/28/93. Time: 04:39:59. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Mysterious Ways RECEIVED That really sucks cheese, N2.... +++Gravebuster Comments : GROAN.=23 Message # 1258. Reply to #1254 Date: 10/28/93. Time: 04:41:01. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Barney Evangelism RECEIVED Do you mean that since his name is Barney, that he merely hangs out in bars, or that he eats the bars? There are some bars that I've heard about that could do with being eaten. Or could it be that Barney hangs out in bars and eats barns. There are not nearly as many barns as there are bars, though. Bars should have some sort of natural predator, or else they would propagate, and we certainly cannot have propagatory bars stretching across the nation. Oh! We already have that. Sorry. Well, I guess Barney doesn't eat bars. +++Gravebuster Message # 1259. Reply to #1255 Date: 10/28/93. Time: 04:51:59. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : BY THE WAY RECEIVED And sometimes we understand it even when we don't want to believe it. I find it's quite a nuisance when that happens. +++Gravebuster Message # 1260. Date: 10/28/93. Time: 04:53:38. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : From The Dictionary RECEIVED Did you gnow that there is such a word as "obfusc"? It's an adjective that means "obfuscated." "Obfuscate" is the only word I could think of that makes an adjective by dropping off a whole syllable. The difference between "obfusc" and "obfuscatory" is that "obfusc" is the condition of someone who has been obfuscated, while "obfuscatory" is the condition of someone who is obfuscating. Did you also gnow that there is a verb such as "obfusque"? It means the same thing as "obfuscate." This gets really obfuscatory. But my favorite is "obfusticated," because it means the same thing as "obfusc" and "obfuscated," except that it has more useless letters and syllables to confuse people with. "Obfuscate" obfuscates! +++Gravebuster #1260. Message # 1261. Date: 10/28/93. Time: 21:23:36. Read 16 Times. From : Stranger To : All Subj : Ghost for Obfuscate I'm too lazy to post some obfuscatory posts from Ghost, but I took a cursory look through the Weird Board, and wrote down some of the high lights. He has many more, but these all stand on their own pretty much without having to understand the rest of the conversation. Remember, these are only from the Weird Board. Actually, he obfuscats in practically every sub. POSTS # 421, 445, 700, 735, 787, 816 850, 932, 1034, 1035. There's a good ten obfuscatory posts.... Stranger (Geez, I'm doing way too much work for such a blah composite personality construct...I guess one of my composite personalities took over.) Message # 1263. Reply to #1259 Date: 10/28/93. Time: 22:03:49. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : BY THE WAY RECEIVED I DON'T BELIEVE THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT I DON'T BELIEVE IT. C- - - Message # 1264. Reply to #1263 Date: 10/29/93. Time: 05:26:39. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : BY THE WAY RECEIVED You don't believe that it's a nuisance when you understand it but you don't believe it? Or do you say that you don't believe it? You, of all people, don't believe it? Whatever will it do? +++Gravebuster Message # 1265. Reply to #1253 Date: 10/29/93. Time: 05:28:54. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Mysterious Ways RECEIVED Ah, harlequin! Selene is your lover, and assuredly your mistress' eyes are nothing like the sun! You bask in lunacy throughout the quarters; even your mustache is a lunula! You evince your attractive irrationality to woo the love of her who illuminates your nightly ravings, and yet your love goes unrequited as she turns her back on you with each lunation. Ah, harlequin, you are irrational, and yet you refuse to acknowledge her own irrationality that bounds the circumference of her beauties.... +++Gravebuster Comments : OH MY GOD!=34 Message # 1266. Reply to #1261 Date: 10/29/93. Time: 06:05:03. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : Ghost for Obfuscate RECEIVED Well, since you were too lazy to do it, I did it myself. #445 is quite obfuscated, too, especially since Ghost didn't post it.... :) ............................................................................ Message # 421. Reply to #419 Date: 06/30/93. Time: 08:18:05. Read 18 Times. From : Ghost To : Stranger Subj : RECEIVED you are definitely a strange one. Nobody in their right mind would put me in charge of anything. Weirdness is a state of mind, not a geographical point. Of course this is an imaginary landscape anyway. There is very little to see in the Winter Wood. Not on the tourist route maps. "Step into my parlor," said the spider to the fly. . . . . . . . (THE WEIRD BOARD) Sub op: ghost 1111 Messages From <1-1172> Time = 1628. Doink? : 445 Message # 445. Reply to #435 Date: 07/11/93. Time: 14:42:39. Read 16 Times. From : Stranger To : The Music Man Subj : i RECEIVED Unfortunately, my understanding of latin is very basic, and has served me to it's limits in decipherment already! (Hey, and apostrophe escaped from its cage!) (And now a d escaped, too! It's bedlam, a typing riot!) Strangere (Ack, now an e, too, and look at all of those exclamation points. I'm doomed! The Cabal must have rigged this...) (THE WEIRD BOARD) Sub op: ghost 1111 Messages From <1-1172> Time = 1623. Doink? : 700 Message # 700. Date: 08/24/93. Time: 08:10:36. Read 12 Times. From : Ghost To : Subj : Deafen It, really! RECEIVED When all else fails, go Paul Bunyan an olive tree. It really calms the nerves and leaves you feeling well-oiled. (THE WEIRD BOARD) Sub op: ghost 1111 Messages From <1-1172> Time = 1617. Doink? : 735 Message # 735. Reply to #733 Date: 09/01/93. Time: 08:08:34. Read 12 Times. From : Ghost To : Stranger Subj : Deafen It, really! RECEIVED Now I have to figure out not only who I am, but where I am? (On a voyage of self-discovery...) Okay, where was I...right! I am sentient, but not alive. Self-aware, but itchless. Conclusion: Factoring in todays info...Gravebuster is Hackman is the Stranger is all a figment of Hackman's imagination... Wow, I'm having a religious experience and I have talked to the Trinity. What's more, one of THEM is my Mom. If I am the ghost in the machine, does this evi dence make me the son of the Deus ex machina? (THE WEIRD BOARD) Sub op: ghost 1111 Messages From <1-1172> Time = 1608. Doink? : 787 Message # 787. Reply to #782 Date: 09/08/93. Time: 08:31:02. Read 12 Times. From : Ghost To : Ghost Subj : Whatever RECEIVED The difficulty with tuutling tufaloes is that they are often tumesent at the time. Now, no matter what their mission, no tufalo can carry a tume. But they are good sports, so the sight of abandoning tufaloes tuutling a tumbling tume is an uplifting experience even though no tuft alive can maintain composure in the face of so hopeless a pursuit. So THEY always end up pinning their emerging tuffets to the center stripe. So the moral of this story is: When life gets tuffet, the tuft get going. (THE WEIRD BOARD) Sub op: ghost 1111 Messages From <1-1172> Time = 1601. Doink? : 816 Message # 816. Reply to #814 Date: 09/14/93. Time: 07:44:10. Read 16 Times. From : Ghost To : Anonymously Yours Subj : Whatever If you whack them, they will come. If a tuumescent, tuutling, tuumbling tufalo notices you, it will sit on you. (THE WEIRD BOARD) Sub op: ghost 1111 Messages From <1-1172> Time = 1597. Doink? : 850 Message # 850. Date: 09/17/93. Time: 08:27:25. Read 16 Times. From : Ghost To : Subj : Moving Day RECEIVED The Further Adventures of Herb When last seen, our hero and chef, Herb, had just survived a run-in with the infamous Legumbre Bros. and had retired to lick his wounds and apply a comfrey compress. Herb felt that for safety's sake a change of locale was in order. So, after ordering from the local takeout window, he packed his paper bag and took off for parts unknown. His trip was not uneventful. He paused several times to lick his wounds again and to make sure the family jewels were still attached. (Due to a freak accident in cooking school, he had nearly severed all family ties and needed to reassure himself frequently that he was still comfrey.) Riding Purple Sage, his faithful companion and motorcycle, he deci ded to head into the sunset and seek adventure. But, then, after only a few minutes of travel, he found himself up to his hubcaps in the bitter water and turmoil of high tide. Totally zaned and feeling gray, Herb changed direction and began a random search for the bridge over troubled waters. But his vehicle garfunkled in the sand and Herb went head over heels and landed in trouble once again. Comments : OBFUSCATED=69 DOINK=42 WOW!=2 PROMOTE ME=23 (THE WEIRD BOARD) Sub op: ghost 1111 Messages From <1-1172> Time = 1588. Doink? : 932 Message # 932. Reply to #850 Date: 09/27/93. Time: 07:57:44. Read 20 Times. From : Ghost To : Ghost Subj : Moving Day RECEIVED Herb, our hero and peripathetic chef, woke up and blinked slowly, admiring the stars orbiting in front of his eyes. Shortly, they stopped swinging, and he realized that he was not seeing astronomical bodies but the hardbody of some concerned young person who was stretched over him to reach and comfort Purple Sage, his motorized steed and advisor, who was still hiccuping in an absent sort of way. With a final eliptic swing, the Concerned Young Person sat back on her haunches, Purple Sage's metal moans silenced. Herb whined, deprived of such a visual feast, then focused his eyes on the frowning face before him. "Well, that was an interesting way to apply for a job," the C.Y.P. said. Herb was still mapping her anatomny and so didn't quite catch the drift of her conversation, though he felt she had quite a lot to add to the subject of plate tectonics. She finally noticed just what his eyes were expl oring and snorted in disgust, reached up, and with a sudden hiss, removed herself from consideration as national monuments. Herb moaned in disappointment. "Hey, anybody home?" She reached over and patted Herb's head with one sandy hand. As Herb gathered his wits together, her pats became more enthusiastic, and Herb decided to move them and himself to safety. "Uh. Uh. What happened?" Herb always liked to impress others with his quick response to the results of his experiments in applied classical dynamics. "What happened? Jeeze, Jerk, you ruined the shot!", another voice broke in. The mood burglarized, the C.Y.P. looked away, Herb slowly shoved himself up on his hands, silently amazed to find that he could, and turned his head to aim his eyes at the new voice shouting at him. First two hands grabbed the crumbled fender on Purple Sage's hind quarters, then the motorcycle flipped out of the way, and a muscular, well groomed and oiled man in a small bathing suit stepped into the crater. Herb quickly lost interest in the following list of his transgressions. Knowing that the smart thing to do at this point would be to remove himself from the noise as fast as possible, he wobbled to his feet, gave a passing thought to the wonder of being so tall, and finding one arm draped over the shoulder of the C.Y.P., leaned happily and day-dreamed of his home in Pisa. He only half noticed being steering though an crowd gathered to admire the eloquence of the screamer and tripped over only one or two boxes resting on the sand. Reaching the shelter of a gigantic beige box, the Young Person, opened a door, shoved Herb up a step and into sudden dark. Herb stopped to feel his way and felt the Concerned Young Person connect with his back, "Oof!".... Comments : OBFUSCATED=1 (THE WEIRD BOARD) Sub op: ghost 1111 Messages From <1-1172> Time = 1571. Doink? : 1034 Message # 1034. Date: 10/08/93. Time: 08:06:59. Read 16 Times. From : Ghost To : Subj : The end of life as we know it.... RECEIVED PERMIFIED Armageddon tired of this. Apocalpse flapping in the breeze is what I want. Without the sound of one hand about the nexus and throttling back controversy, my day is incomplete. So, come to Dado, puppies. I do cry, "Kaypok!" (THE WEIRD BOARD) Sub op: ghost 1111 Messages From <1-1172> Time = 1566. Doink? : 1035 Message # 1035. Reply to #1034 Date: 10/08/93. Time: 08:14:57. Read 18 Times. From : Ghost To : Ghost Subj : The end of life as we know it.... RECEIVED PERMIFIED The thought has come to me, on the spur of the moment, that what we need for new users is a sort of introduction to the Retreat and its inmates and/or cast of characters. So, in the interest of social lubrication, which isn't always available in tube form from the local drug store, allow me to start. My name is Ghost. I am either very old or very young, depending on your point of view. I have not been here very long, but have quickly risen through the ranks to a acme of my incompetence and given this bored to take out ocassionally for visits to the fresh air found only on the outer limits. But the thing that nobody ever notices, and does astonish me, is that here is the Twilight Zone. Like the famous Byrd, found finally in the searchers' own back yard, wyrd is always with you. Happy, now? If I said I don't actually exist, you might argue with me, or tell me you already knew that. But I answer back, "Just breathing is always a gamble." Now that that is perfectly clear, feel free to leave your own autobiography. Coherence is not obligatory, but covalence is. ............................................................................ This will help Gaviscon, who must call long distance and would probably be very irked to get logged off trying to get access to the Weird Board. This also helps me. I haven't read the Weird Board in months, and I don't want to screw up my message counter. I would like to thank Sleepyhead for helping me gather these. I also would like to thank Telemate for being such an awesome terminal program. This would normally help Arwen and YB, except that they should show up at the Garage today, so they can read their hearts away without worrying about long distance rates. +++Gravebuster Message # 1267. Reply to #1266 Date: 10/29/93. Time: 19:18:01. Read 14 Times. From : Stranger To : Gravebuster Subj : Ghost for Obfuscate RECEIVED As you can see, his obfuscation is quite ubiquitous! Stranger Message # 1268. Reply to #1258 Date: 10/29/93. Time: 21:00:48. Read 14 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Barney Evangelism RECEIVED No, the man-from-mars eats bars. Well, he starts off with an appetizer of cadillacs, lincolns too, mercury's and subaru. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1269. Date: 10/30/93. Time: 17:43:55. Read 16 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : All Subj : How annoying of you, number two! ...How annoying of Number Two to beat me to the punch with a one-liner after I spent so much time with my analysis before reading his message. Well, read it anyway. I thought I was being so original! Strange that you should mention that because... I would like to propose to all of you today that the song "Rapture", off Blondie's album "Autoamerican", is not about a Man from Mars but is ac- tually about Barney. Now, I gnow what some of you may be thinking when I say that. Some of you are rolling your eyes and saying to yourselves that Gav's gone off the deep end this time. Others are thinking that since I post this after GB's message about U2 on the Temple of Dillusion, that I'm only parodying his observations. But I think you should here me out before you dismiss my observations as relgious debauchery or dillusion. There is a precedent to this line of reasoning. On "Autoamerican," there is a song called "The Tide is High" where the person singing sings pre- sumably to a desirable man to take her out, for the other girls will pass and her love will last forever. It's a clever way of recounting what hap- pened when the first sea creature crawled out of the water and the other creatures wanted to do the same, all from the evolving species' point of view. And another song on a different album ("Blondie") "Rip Her to Shreds" takes its title from an obvious predatory activity. Indeed, Deb- bie Harry often uses evolutionary imagry throughout her lyrics, although I daresay she regards science more from an ignorant layperson, romantic anologizing point of view rather than a Biologist's scientific point of view. I will take what I can understand and isn't in French from the title, verses, bridges, and choruses one by one and comment on how they better describe Barney than a man from Mars. First, the title itself. The term "Rapture" in our language has typically been used of ecstasy. The spelling of the word is a bit troubling because it has very little to do with the state of a dinosaur. However, I be- lieve the original intent was for the title to be "Raptor." The title became mistranslated on most releases of the album to "Rapture," which we relate with the song, today. "Tail to tail, dancing very close Body breathing, almost comatose. Wall to wall, people hypnotized And they're stepping lively And each night is Rapture." Although this verse can be taken as a nightclub metaphor, that the move- ments of dancers and as such, I suggest you consider these questions: "Why 'tail?'" Why call dancing 'comatose?' Dancers are energetic and lively; is Debbie saying lazy people dance better? Come now... However, one can take this verse from a paleotologistic point of view and consider the anatomy of a dinosaur. Dinosaurs are gnown to have utilized their tails in combat with each other, an action represented by the close dance. The next line refers to the slow metabolism of such dinosaurs, neccessary because of their huge size. The last lines can refer to our modern displays of dinosaurs in museums and our facination with them. "Back to back, Sacroiliac Spineless movement, and new wild attack Face to face, sadness solitude And it's finger pumping Twenty four hour shopping In Rapture" "Sacroiliac" could be taken literally as "the joint or cartiladge between the sacrum and the illium," but it probably is a reference to the verti- brae as a whole because of "spineless movement." One could take this to mean that these dancers are so lethargic that they've lost their entire backbones, but consider this: since when has a social scene been charac- terized as "sadness solitude?" People wouldn't go to bars if there was only solitude. However, one could take these lyrics from an evolutionary point of view. The planet was dominated by "Sacroiliacs" or invertebrates. Time marched on and the were replaced by more vicious animals: "A new wild attack." But the king of the vertebrates, the dinosaurs, eventually died out, and there came a period of time of "sadness solitude" until humans came along with intricate "finger pumping" (a reference to our work with the oppos- able thumb) and eventually the invention of "twenty four hour shopping," with products such as Barney merchandice. ...then there are a ton of lyrics that I don't understand with a lot of French, I think... But then the "rap" in Rapture starts: "...Go out to the parking lot And get in the car and drive real far And you drive all night and you see a light And it comes right down and lands on the ground And out comes the man from Mars" And you try to run, but he's got a gun And he shoots you dead and eats your head And then you're in the man from Mars;" This can be taken literally, as an assault by a man from Mars. But that just doesn't make any sense. Taken figuratively, you can see the assault as the assault of the television waves: "...and you see a light/And it comes right down and lands on the ground/And out comes the man from Mars" The gun is an obvious reference to the cathode electron gun in your tele- vision, which has always been considered an eater of the mind. But you don't die with television, you only get sucked in and become a part of television, seeing the world only from the inside of your TV. "You go out and night, eatin' cars You eat Cadillacs, Lincolns, too Mercurys and Suburu. And you don't stop: You keep on eatin' cars." This is a reference to the early days of dinosaurs on film, where they were largely portrays as huge lizards that ate cars and ravaged towns. "Then when there's no more cars, You go out at night and eat up bars Where people meet. Face to face, dance cheek to cheek, one to one, man to man Toe to toe, don't move too slow, 'Cause the man from Mars is through with cars He's eatin' bars, yeah, wall to wall, door to door, hall to hall He's gonna eat 'em all. Rapture." I think the figurative viewpoint serves the words much better. Again, the imagery of eating things is used in the first two lines. The BBS message, "#1258 - 'Barney Evangelism'" by Gravebuster even mentions "...that since his name is Barney, that he [...] hangs out in bars, or that he eats the bars..." "You'll be singing in the rain. Don't stop to punk rock." These lines sound like "singing in the rain" but are actually "singing in the REIGN," a reference to REX, which means king, Barney's species. The next line symbolically represents the generation of parents, who grew up with punk rock are are rapidly losing their children to the inane signing on Barney videos. "Well now you see what you want to be Just have your party on TV. 'Cause the man from Mars won't eat up bars Where the TV's on." "You" in this song continually refers to the man from Mars, or Barney, who has by this time aquired his own television program. "And now he's gone back up in space Where he won't have a hassle with the human race. And you hip hop, and you don't stop Just blast off, sure shot. 'Cause the man from Mars stopped eatin' cars And eatin' bars And now he only eats guitars." This refers to the future of Barney, who has definately had a hassle with the human race, what with angry parents, societies devoted to killing him and youths attempting to rip his head off on public streets. Once again, "up in space" is a reference to the EM band, or television broadcasts. The final line clinches the future plans of Barney: to make a hit record, to gobble up the recording industry with his drivel. Now I finish with this analysis and you are left with the question; am I fanatically serious, am I dilluding, or is there something to what I've posted?... !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -"I'm always touched by your presence dear." Message # 1270. Reply to #1236 Date: 10/30/93. Time: 17:47:42. Read 19 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : Gravebuster Subj : Actually, I don't remember what this post is about anymore... Odd. RECEIVED I GNEW that inference was going to butt its head into this conversation. I think "Margin Master" carries a slightly different context, because it's a personal title. It applies to a single person, like... um... Hmm... Doesn't anyone else have personal titles? Seems like by now, personal titles would be all the rage. Ah yes! The BOg has been delving them out like so much swampsludge. I would consider it rude to take Mojo's SQuishy BOgslug title. (Which seems to take fourty wpm off my typing speed, anyway). However, there are many members of the BOg title club, none of which I can remember anymore, making this a relatively useless analogy. But in the same retrospect, you took the title "margin misfit" and others have toyed with margin titles, none of which I can either remember. Anyone who marginates significantly and continuously ought to be considered a part of the marginators club, if there was such a thing. (Hmm... Maybe I should create such a thing). Since I'm still around, it would good form to let me consider who should be a part of said theoretical club, but if I stopped calling for, say, four years, should that stop people from marginating? The club ought to continue, and I might consider it flattering if it did, only if done with respect for me and done in good form. Similarly, so long as we do our best to respect Lex's ideals, us Dillusion- ists ought to continue. Did Christianity die along with Christ? What gives priests the right to baptise and confirm people into their club? Did they start it? Don't you think only Christ can give the right for a person to call himself/herself a Christian? (You gnew I had to turn this analogy back on you, now, didn't you?) It IS, however, slightly tacky to go around call- ing yourself the Son of God, because that was Jesus' personal title. By the same token, I don't think Jesus would have called himself a Margin Master. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -Analogies... Gotta love 'em. Comments : BRAVO!=42 #1270. Message # 1271. Reply to #1268 Date: 10/30/93. Time: 21:59:21. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Barney Evangelism RECEIVED Only one Subaru? This is significant. +++Gravebuster --==must be undue influence from the bunny men from Neptune==-- Message # 1272. Reply to #1269 Date: 10/30/93. Time: 22:06:42. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : How annoying of you, number two! RECEIVED It's nice to gnow that other people do that, too! +++Gravebuster Message # 1273. Reply to #1270 Date: 10/30/93. Time: 22:08:26. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : Actually, I don't remember what this post is about anymore... Odd. RECEIVED Jesus resurrected, and is still alive. Try again. +++Gravebuster Comments : NO WAY!=1 Message # 1274. Reply to #1252 Date: 10/31/93. Time: 00:16:38. Read 12 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : Gravebuster Subj : Mysterious Ways RECEIVED Anyway, about Thomas, how Dolby that? Mynk Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Xnyl Knym Message # 1275. Reply to #1269 Date: 10/31/93. Time: 00:53:38. Read 13 Times. From : Number Two To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : How annoying of you, number two! RECEIVED Personally, I think you're as full of crap as I am !!! Your Pal 2 Comments : HAHAHA=100 Message # 1276. Reply to #1274 Date: 10/31/93. Time: 09:27:30. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Mynk Lynx Subj : Mysterious Ways RECEIVED Well, Thomas you should ask that Dolby. I was just about to Dolby that Thomas myself, but you posted that Dolby Thomasly before I could. That's alright though, I'm Thomas you Dolby that Dolby. How Dolby that? Well, that's pretty Thomas if you ask me, but then again, it could be just simply Dolby, I'm not really Thomas Dolby on that. +++Gravebuster Comments : ZZZZZZZ=34 BLAH=1 Message # 1277. Date: 11/02/93. Time: 22:30:44. Read 25 Times. From : Gaviscon Aviscenna To : All Subj : The gist on Ghost. Hmm... The stuff GB posted seemed fairly obfuscated, but not actually as good as some other stuff I've occasionally seen from him, say, on the Tav- ern. Ghost is an interesting one. He obfuscates everywhere but on the Obfusactorium. That's a pretty clear indication of that shaky grasp on the concept we try so elegantly to avoid defining. It's something that comes naturally instead of forced, which is what we've been trying to explain all along. I still feel kind of bad about the story board thing with him. I wish his handler weren't ghost. It basically set up a situation in which Gav is supposed to be the only ghost in existance and suddenly there's another one. I didn't want to change that aspect of the story, and yet I didn't want to frighten Ghost off from posting stories, either. It would've been nice to have seen what his writing style developed into once he got into the story. Anyway, I think he's pretty obfuscatory. The trouble is that nothing very spectacular has come out of him and I think we might have found ourselves trained to look for that rather than the more appropriate general attitude on things. He actually reminds me ofthe several times when Obfuscates have gotten bored and decided to log on under a new handle and suddenly every- one thinks the new person is naturally inclined to the Retreat's style. I don't think he's an Obfuscate under a different handle, but it does seem impressive that he's gotten into things so quickly. It almost seems wrong to nominate him without the requisite non-Obfuscate bitterness time. I'm trying to look at pros and cons and I guess it really boils down to one in each catagory: PRO: He's kinda weird CON: He's JUST kinda weird What I mean by the CON is that he rarely makes creative efforts, he's just kinda obfuscated. My opinion is that large creative efforts are not what matters... The general persona is. So for now, I'm inclined to support the nomination. I'm willing to entertain alternate views, though. I gnow it's hard to say anything bad about a nominee, especially when you consider the fact that the nominee will be able to read your negative cri- ticism if he does become an Obfuscate. But I think the negative critique is very important. I need two sides to an issue or else I don't feel right about making a decision. If anyone sees reasons why Ghost should not be made an Obfuscate, please post them, even if you're inclined to vote for him. !!! GAVISCON !!! -=@ Margin Master @=- -So how does voting work now? E-Mail to Hack when he asks for it? Message # 1278. Reply to #1277 Date: 11/03/93. Time: 00:21:22. Read 33 Times. From : Number Two To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : The gist on Ghost. RECEIVED I say NO. The guy's a creep....... Be Seeing You ?? Comments : DOINK=1 Message # 1279. Reply to #1277 Date: 11/03/93. Time: 01:01:23. Read 15 Times. From : Stranger To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : The gist on Ghost. RECEIVED As far as the story, and you being the only ghost in the universe--that's just plain silly. It's not like you made up the concept of a ghost--it's been around for a long time! Blah to you! Stranger Comments : DOINK=1 OUCH!=1 Message # 1281. Reply to #1277 Date: 11/03/93. Time: 06:03:23. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : The gist on Ghost. RECEIVED I wouldn't worry about how Ghost and Gaviscon will interact in the story, Gav. We could play it up where he is every bit better a ghost than you. That should fit in with everything else in your persona. As for his writing style, if he becomes an obfuscate, I'll ask him to join in the story. As for a negative side, well, consider this: he didn't try to bribe you. I mean, we don't want people to want to become obfuscates, and a bribe is a sure sign that a person wants to become an obfuscate, and besides, a bribe indicates that the person not only doesn't understand what obfuscation is about, but he doesn't understand that, in the scheme of all of life, being an obfuscate isn't that important, which, if he bribed you, means that he needs a life, which is probably why he's a ghost, but then again most people would say that most of us need to get a life, and most of us don't really care what most people say, because most people would consider a bribe, or at least it seems that way nowadays, and if he gnew that most people would consider a bribe, and that we would think a bribe is repugnant and perspicuitous, wouldn't it be obfuscatory to bribe one of us, and especially you, since your car broke down for the umpteenth time and you just started your job and you could use the cash flow?... +++Gravebuster Message # 1282. Date: 11/03/93. Time: 06:16:07. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : ALL Subj : Eulogy For Absolutely Nobody Absolutely Nobody ran for lieutenant governor of the state of Oregon, and Absolutely Nobody promised to abolish the position if elected. Absolutely Nobody placed third in an eight way contest, which shows how many people voted for Absolutely Nobody in that election. Absolutely Nobody died of AIDS a week ago, and so Absolutely Nobody should be remembered as hero and honorary obfuscate of our times, because Absolutely Nobody would stand against the absurdity that hamstrings our government. +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 1283. Reply to #1277 Date: 11/03/93. Time: 12:48:51. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : The gist on Ghost. RECEIVED YOU CAN EMAIL ME ANY TIME THAT I WANT. I'VE ALREADY GOTTEN TWO VOTES. C- - - Message # 1284 -- Private. Message # 1286. Reply to #1281 Date: 11/03/93. Time: 12:51:54. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : The gist on Ghost. RECEIVED I ACCEPT BRIBES. I DON'T GIVE OUT FAVORS IN RETURN, BUT I DO ACCEPT THE MONEY. C- - - Comments : HAHAHA=100 Message # 1287. Reply to #1281 Date: 11/04/93. Time: 11:16:29. Read 20 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : The gist on Ghost. RECEIVED Perhaps we should invite ol' Ghost over to the garage. Has anyone met him ?? All of the other "active" obfuscates have met allof the other "active" Obfuscates with very few exceptions. Every Obfuscate is known by and friends with at least a couple of other Obfuscates. That is not coincidental. We are as much a social group as we are a group of confusion sowers. Obfuscates are supposed to be loyal to each other and to The Retreat. It's much easier to feel loyalty to someone you know, or to someone that you know and trust knows. I would like to meet Ghost, before I make any kind of decision, and before I cast my vote. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1288. Reply to #1282 Date: 11/04/93. Time: 11:21:48. Read 14 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Eulogy For Absolutely Nobody RECEIVED I suggest beatifying Absolutely Nobody, which is, of course, the first step to becoming an Obfusaint (which is a subject that dropped to a point as low as the BOg because no one could agree on anything to do with it) I nominate Absolutely Nobody for Sainthood...... Absolutely Nobody is dead !! Long Live Absolutely Nobody !! Your Pal 2 Message # 1289. Reply to #1287 Date: 11/05/93. Time: 06:34:41. Read 21 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : The gist on Ghost. RECEIVED We could invite him to the Garage, and I would like to meet him, but I feel that if a person obfuscates, that person is eligible to be an Obfuscate, whether I've met the person in person or not. +++Gravebuster Message # 1290. Reply to #1288 Date: 11/05/93. Time: 06:36:36. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Eulogy For Absolutely Nobody RECEIVED There are three levels of sainthood in the Catholic church. The second is beatification, and the third is sainthood. What is the first one? Gotta look it up. +++Gravebuster --==then maybe we can find some way to make it obfusc==-- #1290. Message # 1291. Reply to #1289 Date: 11/05/93. Time: 16:10:28. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : The gist on Ghost. RECEIVED I'm not really disputing that. I am just suggesting that since Ghost has more than a good chance at becoming an Obfuscate we should make every attempt to meet him first. It's good to know those you are placing trust in. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1292. Reply to #1289 Date: 11/05/93. Time: 20:04:33. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : Gravebuster Subj : The gist on Ghost. RECEIVED Exactly. I don't think the person's personality, or presence at the Garage, should mean anything at all. I don't agree with the whole loyalty to the group thing. What are we, obfuscasheeps? Stranger Message # 1293. Reply to #1289 Date: 11/06/93. Time: 17:40:03. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : The gist on Ghost. RECEIVED I INVITED HIM. HE DIDN'T SEEM TO BE INTERESTED. C- - - Message # 1294. Reply to #1292 Date: 11/06/93. Time: 17:41:15. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : The gist on Ghost. RECEIVED OR MAYBE OBFUSCALEMMINGS. C- - - Message # 1295. Reply to #1292 Date: 11/07/93. Time: 09:16:18. Read 27 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : The gist on Ghost. RECEIVED Ok, there is that. Obfuscation is obfuscation, right ?? And who are we to get in the way of anyone who happens to obfuscate enough to be an Obfuscate. My point is, part of being made is an Obfuscate is being entrusted wit access to the Temple, and all of the secret obfuscatronix. What if someone who is made an Obfuscate that none of us know, decides to just give away the secrets? I don't think any of us would do it, there would more of a repercussion than being deleted and exiled from the board. Someone would call that person up and ask them to explain......explain to a friend. All I am saying is that we need to be careful, and giving someone access that no one has even talked to voice, or ever seen, is not very careful. If you think I am against Ghost for Obfuscate, you are mistaken. I am against strangers (the kind we don't know) for Obfuscate. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1296. Date: 11/07/93. Time: 09:22:45. Read 21 Times. From : Number Two To : ALL Subj : COngratulations !!!! It seems I am the first to be able to congratulate all of the new Obfuscates. Of course, I didn't evenknow that there was a vote going for them, but I am not one to get sore at trivialities. Welcome to the Temple of Delusion and I hope your stay is as pleasant as it will be muddled and incoherent. Welcome: _________ Candy Lou Cipher The Anarchist The Bell Captain Whomever Sleepyhead Sniffles Okay guys(and Candy, sorry), by , by all means do your stuff. With all of you NEW Obfuscates around there should be a great new glorious rapture of Obfuscation. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1297. Reply to #1295 Date: 11/07/93. Time: 16:26:22. Read 20 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : The gist on Ghost. RECEIVED I don't think the "secret" Obfuscatronix are really that important of a secret...it is a rarity when an Obfuscate even uses them. Oh well, there s no real argument, although i do think it would be silly to include showing up to The Retreat as a prerequisite to becoming an Obfuscate... Stranger Message # 1298. Reply to #1296 Date: 11/07/93. Time: 16:28:01. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : COngratulations !!!! RECEIVED Those people aren't new.... Stranger Message # 1300 -- Private. #1300. Message # 1301. Reply to #1300 Date: 11/08/93. Time: 15:34:03. Read 16 Times. From : THE BELL CAPTAIN To : <>OBFUSCATES/THE BELL CAPTAIN/STRANGER/LOU CIPHER Subj : BLAH RECEIVED OOPS, THAT ONE DIDN'T WORK. Message # 1302. Reply to #1300 Date: 11/08/93. Time: 16:59:04. Read 15 Times. From : Stranger To : <>OBFUSCATES/THE BELL CAPTAIN/STRANGER/LOU CIPHER Subj : BLAH RECEIVED Nope, I can see it. Stranger Message # 1303. Reply to #1297 Date: 11/09/93. Time: 19:28:56. Read 23 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : The gist on Ghost. RECEIVED I don't think it should either. I just think we should really make an effort to get to know someone if we are planning on most likely making them an Obfuscate. Maybe I am just a bit paranoid. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1304. Reply to #1298 Date: 11/09/93. Time: 19:30:09. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : COngratulations !!!! RECEIVED Well, I never knew they were Obfuscates before. They aren't in the story, and I never heard anything about them being Obfuscates. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1305. Reply to #1303 Date: 11/09/93. Time: 22:01:41. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : The gist on Ghost. RECEIVED Maybe. Stranger Message # 1306. Reply to #1304 Date: 11/09/93. Time: 22:01:53. Read 15 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : COngratulations !!!! RECEIVED Just because theyhave access here doesn't make them Obfuscates....actually, The Bell Captain is in the stories. At least the last few. Stranger Message # 1308. Reply to #1306 Date: 11/09/93. Time: 23:47:51. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : COngratulations !!!! RECEIVED Well, I thought you had to be an Obfuscate to access this sub. If not, then hell let's give everyone access. Or better yet let me make a duplicate account so I can have multiple Obfuscate status too. (much sarcasm intended) Be Seeing You ?? Comments : RASPBERRYS=100 WHO CARES=1 Message # 1309. Reply to #1308 Date: 11/10/93. Time: 00:04:18. Read 19 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : COngratulations !!!! RECEIVED bla bla bla Stranger (where are my h's? Oh, I guess I just didn't care hard enough!) Message # 1310. Reply to #1309 Date: 11/10/93. Time: 00:36:39. Read 19 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : COngratulations !!!! RECEIVED Oh well, I guess I am just too stuck in tradition...... Be Seeing You ?? (and obsessed with equality) #1310. Message # 1311. Reply to #1310 Date: 11/10/93. Time: 04:40:18. Read 19 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : COngratulations !!!! RECEIVED I haven't seen any abuse, so why gaviscon the whole situation? Stranger Message # 1312. Reply to #1308 Date: 11/10/93. Time: 08:45:46. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two #2 To : Number Two Subj : COngratulations !!!! RECEIVED OH HERE YOU GO. YOU HAVE NOW BEEN DUPLICATED. HAPPY? C- - - Comments : HAHAHA=100 Message # 1313. Reply to #1300 Date: 11/10/93. Time: 21:37:21. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : <>OBFUSCATES/THE BELL CAPTAIN/STRANGER/LOU CIPHER Subj : BLAH RECEIVED Poor Stranger. I would say poor Bell Captain, too, but that would be redundant. +++Gravebuster Message # 1314. Reply to #1304 Date: 11/10/93. Time: 21:43:12. Read 20 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : COngratulations !!!! RECEIVED Well, Muckpup isn't an Obfuscate, was never nominated as an Obfuscate, and isn't in the story, either. And yet Muckpup posted on this subboard (see message #644 to Ubik). So, Muckpup posted on this subboard, and most of the others have not. This proves that Muckpup has initiative. +++Gravebuster Message # 1315. Reply to #1313 Date: 11/11/93. Time: 03:00:14. Read 14 Times. From : Stranger To : <>OBFUSCATES/THE BELL CAPTAIN/STRANGER/LOU CIPHER/Gravebuster Subj : BLAH RECEIVED Nahh nahh, I read it! (And the Bell Captain doesn't know what you're talking about...) Stranger Message # 1316. Date: 11/11/93. Time: 05:19:21. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : OBFUSCATES/// Subj : How About This RECEIVED Can Stranger, The Bell Captain or Sleepyhead read this message? And can the rest of the Obfuscates read this message? +++Gravebuster Message # 1317. Reply to #1316 Date: 11/11/93. Time: 05:24:54. Read 12 Times. From : Sleepyhead To : OBFUSCATES////Gravebuster Subj : How About This RECEIVED Well, that failed. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Message # 1318. Date: 11/11/93. Time: 05:46:56. Read 11 Times. From : Gravebuster To : /SLEEPYHEAD/STRANGER Subj : Try Try Again RECEIVED Can I read this? +++Gravebuster Message # 1319. Reply to #1318 Date: 11/11/93. Time: 05:47:46. Read 12 Times. From : Gravebuster To : /SLEEPYHEAD/STRANGER Subj : Try Try Again RECEIVED I guess I can. Hmmmmmm..... +++Gravebuster Message # 1320. Reply to #1316 Date: 11/11/93. Time: 16:00:02. Read 14 Times. From : Stranger To : OBFUSCATES////Gravebuster Subj : How About This RECEIVED I read it.... Stranger #1320. Message # 1323. Date: 11/11/93. Time: 21:35:58. Read 10 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger/Number Two/<>Sleepyhead Subj : Another Test RECEIVED Let's see if I can read this. +++Gravebuster Message # 1324 -- Private. Message # 1325. Date: 11/11/93. Time: 22:50:48. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : <>SLEEPYHEAD Subj : BUT RECEIVED YOU CAN'T READ THIS. C- - - Message # 1326. Reply to #1325 Date: 11/12/93. Time: 07:28:21. Read 10 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : BUT RECEIVED Well, we'll see if I can read that or not. +++Gravebuster --==as if I already can't==-- Message # 1327. Reply to #1325 Date: 11/12/93. Time: 07:35:27. Read 11 Times. From : Sleepyhead To : HACK MAN Subj : BUT RECEIVED Yes I can. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ppfffllllttttt!!!!!! Message # 1328 -- Private. Message # 1329. Date: 11/13/93. Time: 16:18:32. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Hack Man Subj : You're Right! RECEIVED Which means that it would be pointless to use that with the "/" feature, because since you would have to make the message private to make the "<>" feature work, you might as well not include that users name in the TO: line anyways. +++Gravebuster Message # 1330. Reply to #1311 Date: 11/15/93. Time: 02:27:44. Read 14 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : COngratulations !!!! RECEIVED I don't know. I thought it was a privelege to have access to this sub. I thought only those who were Obfuscates had access. Oh well. Be Seeing You ?? (and I thought privelege was spelled that way, but I was wrong) #1330. Message # 1331. Reply to #1312 Date: 11/15/93. Time: 02:29:19. Read 13 Times. From : Number Two To : Number Two #2 Subj : COngratulations !!!! Great, a clone...... just great Be Seeing You ?? (ps, I will never be happy) Message # 1332. Reply to #1313 Date: 11/15/93. Time: 02:30:12. Read 16 Times. From : Number Two To : <>OBFUSCATES/THE BELL CAPTAIN/STRANGER/LOU CIPHER/Gravebuster Subj : BLAH RECEIVED yup Message # 1333. Reply to #1314 Date: 11/15/93. Time: 02:30:36. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : COngratulations !!!! RECEIVED Yes, but everyone knows that that was a coup attempt,and not a gradual slip into the comfort spot that those here seem to have (and their pets too). Be Seeing You ?? (what was that message number again ??) Message # 1334. Reply to #1330 Date: 11/15/93. Time: 02:43:27. Read 12 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : COngratulations !!!! RECEIVED The whole point is moot, because we all know that the people who call with those handles ARE Obfuscates! (Which you know, but decided to gaviscon anyway...) Stranger Message # 1335. Reply to #1333 Date: 11/15/93. Time: 06:02:26. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : COngratulations !!!! RECEIVED 644 or 1333, I'm not sure, though, because I'm getting comfortable, in this spot, which doesn't mean that I'll be comfortable the next minute, nor does it mean that I'm as comfortable as I could be, but I'm not as uncomfortable as I could be, which could cause me a lot of discomforting thoughts, but I comfort myself that I am myself and I've never tried to overthrow myself, because I'm not evensure how to throw myself, let alone overthrow myself, and even if I could throw myself, I don't think that I'd go very far from this spot, where I'm comfortable, responding to 1333 about 644, and how about that Thomas Dolby? +++Gravebuster Comments : BLAH=1 Message # 1336. Reply to #1329 Date: 11/16/93. Time: 08:27:12. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : You're Right! RECEIVED YOU LOST ME THERE. IF YOU USE THE <> WITH / YOU CAN SEND A MESSAGE THAT EVERY ONE EXCEPT FOR A LIST OF 5 OR 6 PEOPLE CAN SEE. C- - - Message # 1338. Date: 11/16/93. Time: 11:56:19. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : <>Sleepyhead/Hack Man/The Bell Captain Subj : Let's See RECEIVED Just checking. +++Gravebuster Message # 1339. Reply to #1338 Date: 11/16/93. Time: 11:58:15. Read 14 Times. From : Sleepyhead To : <>Sleepyhead/Hack Man/The Bell Captain/Gravebuster Subj : Let's See RECEIVED Sorry, HM, you're not right. Should the above message be private? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Message # 1340. Reply to #1338 Date: 11/16/93. Time: 12:30:15. Read 10 Times. From : Stranger To : <>Sleepyhead/Hack Man/The Bell Captain/Gravebuster Subj : Let's See RECEIVED No!!!! You have to make the message private for the <> to work. Stranger #1340. Message # 1341. Reply to #1334 Date: 11/16/93. Time: 21:59:38. Read 11 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : COngratulations !!!! RECEIVED Yes, T but H it O strikes M me A funny S that they got the status level high D enough O to L even B access Y the Temple. I guess it's just a sysop thing, and I will never understand it. Oh well. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1342. Reply to #1341 Date: 11/16/93. Time: 22:02:49. Read 12 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : COngratulations !!!! RECEIVED whine whine whine Stranger Message # 1343. Reply to #1342 Date: 11/16/93. Time: 23:13:10. Read 12 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : COngratulations !!!! RECEIVED Oh well....... Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1345. Reply to #1339 Date: 11/17/93. Time: 08:35:05. Read 13 Times. From : HACK MAN To : <>Hack Man/The Bell Captain/Gravebuster/Sleepyhead Subj : Let's See RECEIVED YES YES YES YES. FOR THE 11 ZILLIONTH TIME. EVERYONE CAN ALWAYS READ A PUBLIC MESSAGE "NO MATTER WHAT". AND THAT TRICK DOESN'T WORK ON COSYSOPS OR SUBOPS (IN THEIR NATURAL HABITAT) EITHER. C- - - Message # 1346. Reply to #1340 Date: 11/18/93. Time: 06:56:51. Read 10 Times. From : Gravebuster To : <>Sleepyhead/Hack Man/The Bell Captain/Gravebuster/Stranger Subj : Let's See RECEIVED Okay. So now, in a private message, we can not only prevent one person from seeing a message, but now we can prevent a whole slough of people from seeing the message. +++Gravebuster Message # 1347. Reply to #1345 Date: 11/18/93. Time: 06:58:59. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : <>The Bell Captain/Gravebuster/Sleepyhead/HACK MAN Subj : Let's See RECEIVED Actually, it's for the first time. You have said that for "<>" to work for one person, the message needs to be private, but nowhere on the BBS did you post that for "/" and "<>" to work together, the message needs to be private. That's why I was confused. If you're gonna explain how to do something, you gotta explain all the steps. +++Gravebuster Message # 1349. Date: 11/30/93. Time: 05:28:55. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : hack man Subj : Ctrl-I 0 RECEIVED q u e t z a l Message # 1352. Date: 11/30/93. Time: 05:32:11. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : hack man Subj : Ctrl-I 1 RECEIVED q u e t z a l Message # 1353. Date: 11/30/93. Time: 05:33:06. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : hack man Subj : Ctrl-I 2 RECEIVED q u e t z a l Message # 1354. Date: 11/30/93. Time: 05:33:30. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : hack man Subj : Ctrl-I 3 RECEIVED q u e t z a l Message # 1355. Date: 11/30/93. Time: 05:34:22. Read 20 Times. From : Gravebuster To : hack man Subj : Ctrl-I 4 RECEIVED q u e t z a l Message # 1356. Date: 11/30/93. Time: 06:13:41. Read 23 Times. From : Stranger To : gravebuster Subj : annoying RECEIVED Those were incredibly annoying. Stranger Message # 1357. Reply to #1348 Date: 11/30/93. Time: 08:48:12. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Hey! RECEIVED TOO LATE, I ALREADY CHECKED THAT MESSAGE SEVERAL DAYS AGO. I LIKE THE SECRET BALLOT THINGY, BECAUSE THEN I GNOW WHERE TO LOOK WHEN I DO FORGET. OH, AND I DELETED THAT MESSAGE BECAUSE YOU GAVE AWAY SOMEBODIES SECRET VOTE. C- - - Message # 1358. Date: 11/30/93. Time: 08:49:48. Read 23 Times. From : Stranger To : All Subj : jhhjfydcfyhtg, Blah. It is my conclusion that the longer a post is, the more likely to receive replies. Normally, I wouldn't believe that, except I've been getting a higher amount of replies per post since I've been inhabited by the spirit of Geranimal K. LaRue (who has been making me post longer messages). I think I like it, but perhaps not. I'll hgave to see which way the cookie crumbles, and eat my result. Before I go on a word diet that is. Or perhaps I should do as the neo-Obfuscate Ghost says and drink some vocabularic Pepto- Wordall, to reduce my lexiconic diarrhea. It might dislodge Geranimal, though, and I've gotten quite used to the feeling of him. I think he is somewhere between my heart and my bowels, where the willows and the needless baggage stay. On to the subject of my post--there is one, y'(g)know, and I haven't forgotten it, this time, simply because it is pressing up against my brain so urgently, and the music and the music is pounding on the other side, making a mollusk-like impression, and reminding me that the subject of this post is a mollusk, and a good mollusk, a fine mollusk, even a moolusk, but without the extra "o". (We could all do with a few less "o"s, perhaps Cheerios will buy them from us. Onward and Upward. Mojo IV is leaving in 2 weeks. Some people might not care, but he is my friend, and a friend to the board, a neo-obfuscate if I ever saw one. He is moving to Washington, to be mollusky and obfuscated in a whole new oeshan. I wish the rascally bastard weren't going, because his obfuscation was progressing in leaps and bounds. He is more obfuscated than many, and less than some, and the same as others. But aren't we all? I think we should make him an Obfuscate before he goes. He will still be calling, using YellowBeard's (hi, you yello pirate) qwk mail program. At least I hope he calls. If he is not made obfuscate, or even if he is, I think we should throw him a farewell party, and stone him with figs. Maybe we could make him the Retreat's Official Obfuscated Mollusk. Or maybe not. Stranger (what's that I here? oh, a fat lady singing) Message # 1359. Date: 11/30/93. Time: 08:55:31. Read 24 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : GHOST FOR OBFUSCATE WELL, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE GUIDELINES IN MESSAGE #1100, IT HAS BEEN OVER 40 DAYS SINCE A NOMINATION WAS MADE FOR GHOST FOR OBFUSCATE. (STRANGER DID SO IN MESSAGE 1224, OR MAYBE EARLIER). I'M GLAD TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE VOTES ARE: YES (Q) : 5 NO (PICARD (OR IS IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND?)) : 1 5 PEOPLE DIDN'T VOTE (APPARENTLY THEY HAVEN'T BEEN READING!): LYNX, YELLOWBEARD, ARWEN, TAZZ, CORNMEAL. I WILL GIVE A COUPLE MORE DAYS FOR ANY STRAGGLERS TO VOTE. ALSO, IN THAT TIME YOU CAN DELETE ANY MESSAGES HERE (IF YOU WANT TO) ABOUT THE DISCUSSION BEFORE GHOST GETS ACCESS. C- - - Message # 1360 -- Private. #1360. Message # 1361. Reply to #1358 Date: 11/30/93. Time: 09:08:15. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : jhhjfydcfyhtg, RECEIVED DARN! WHAT AM I GOING TO DO WITH ALL THAT SALT THAT I BOUGHT? FOR SHAME. JUST WHEN I WAS BEGINNING TO THINK THAT MOLLUSKS MIGHT BE OK AFTER ALL. C- - - Message # 1362. Reply to #1356 Date: 11/30/93. Time: 21:51:28. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : annoying RECEIVED IIIIIIIIII MMMMMMUSSSSSSSST agree Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1363. Reply to #1358 Date: 11/30/93. Time: 21:53:42. Read 16 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : jhhjfydcfyhtg, RECEIVED Yes, I say.... We should throw the old spineless trickster a bash!!!! Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1364. Reply to #1356 Date: 12/02/93. Time: 07:55:36. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : annoying RECEIVED I apologize, Stranger. I didn't mean for those posts to be annoying. I set up six posts so HACK MAN could have some idea what's wrong with the "I" obfuscatronix. Each one is different. Working off the word, "quetzal," printed vertically, the first post uses ctrl-I 0, the next ctrl-I 1, et cetera to ctrl-I 5. I should have preceded those posts with a warning and an explanation. Again, I apologize to you and anyone else who have been irked by those posts. +++Gravebuster Message # 1365. Reply to #1357 Date: 12/02/93. Time: 07:56:05. Read 24 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Hey! RECEIVED That's the problem with the secret vote. You're the only person who can tell if we voted and how. If the votes were posted here, then the person championing a certain user as obfuscate could keep track. But only you get them, and if you forget, then we could wind up with someone qualifying as obfuscate, and never making it, because you forgot that an obfuscate voted. It irks me that not only had you forgotten that I had voted, but you told other people that I hadn't voted and that's what was holding up the confirmation! Maybe we should send our votes to both you and the obfuscate championing the user, using the "/" in the "TO:" line. However, it would be great if you remembered who voted. +++Gravebuster Message # 1366. Reply to #1358 Date: 12/02/93. Time: 07:56:43. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : jhhjfydcfyhtg, RECEIVED You have nominated Mojo IV for obfuscate. As for whether or not we should throw him a farewell party, I say we should, and that we should stone him with figs, as you suggested, and we should have a slug-squishing contest as well.... +++Gravebuster Message # 1367. Date: 12/02/93. Time: 07:56:59. Read 24 Times. From : Gravebuster To : all Subj : More Tests On The "Ctrl-I" and "Ctrl-U" Obfuscatronix The next two messages are test messages for HACK MAN to check. The first one should move the cursor up, using the ctrl-u command, the word "quetzal" until it stops on the "q". The second message has a ctrl-z in front of a horizontal "quetzal," followed by a return, followed by a ctrl-u/ctrl-i 1. This should produce an infinite obfuscatronix that overwrites itself without carriaging down, if the "i" and "u" obfuscatronix work. This message informs other obfuscates so they don't have to endure the next two messages. +++Gravebuster Message # 1368. Date: 12/02/93. Time: 07:57:46. Read 21 Times. From : Gravebuster To : hack man Subj : 6 Ctrl-U's RECEIVED q u e t z a l Message # 1369. Date: 12/02/93. Time: 07:59:10. Read 20 Times. From : Gravebuster To : hack man Subj : Ctrl-U, Ctrl-I 1 RECEIVED quetzal Message # 1370. Reply to #1365 Date: 12/03/93. Time: 00:36:05. Read 34 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Hey! RECEIVED He didn't add me to the list of having not voted, even though I have not voted. Be Seeing You ?? #1370. Message # 1371. Date: 12/03/93. Time: 00:37:12. Read 19 Times. From : Number Two To : all Subj : Nomination I nominate Miss Informed for Obfuscate status. His/her posts are more obfuscatory then any I have ever seen. If any of us deserve Obfuscate staus, it is he/she. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1372. Reply to #1370 Date: 12/03/93. Time: 01:19:29. Read 19 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : Hey! RECEIVED Yes you did--you said no. (At least publically---I dunno about a private vote.) Stranger Message # 1373. Reply to #1371 Date: 12/03/93. Time: 01:19:58. Read 18 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : Nomination RECEIVED I have said that for quite awhile, and I agree, and if Miss Informed were to start calling once a week or thereabouts, I would vote yes. (But I won't right now.) Stranger Message # 1374. Reply to #1370 Date: 12/03/93. Time: 06:28:10. Read 24 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Hey! RECEIVED I don't gnow. Maybe he considers you to be the "no" vote, because you are trying to apply a third unofficial standard to Ghost that the rest of us don't agree with. +++Gravebuster Message # 1375. Reply to #1372 Date: 12/03/93. Time: 09:44:07. Read 24 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : Hey! RECEIVED I never ever said NO.... I expressed apprehensions, but never gave a vote, publicly or privately. If my vote is to be assumed, then I guess I never even have to vote then. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1376. Reply to #1373 Date: 12/03/93. Time: 09:45:13. Read 20 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : Nomination RECEIVED There are tons of Obfuscates who don't call. Why should we restrict people who don't call from being Obfuscates. He's the most obfuscatory person I know, so I figured it was about time he was made an Obfuscate. Be Seeing You ?? (why shouldn't he be made one??) Message # 1377. Reply to #1374 Date: 12/03/93. Time: 09:47:07. Read 25 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Hey! RECEIVED I was just arguing a point. I believe I agreed that Ghost was obfuscatory, I just thought we should consider (CONSIDER, not restrict) the fact that none of us know him, and that he has no interest in meeting any of us before we went ahead and made him an Obfuscate. I was just trying to protect the interests of Hack's Retreat. Sorry if I was trying to force a standard upon you. Message # 1378. Reply to #1365 Date: 12/03/93. Time: 09:43:12. Read 23 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Hey! RECEIVED THATS NOT NECESSARY. I NEVER FORGOT THAT YOU DID VOTE, BUT I DID FORGET HOW YOU VOTED ONCE, SO I CHECKED THE SAME EVENING. NOTHING WAS HELD UP, I WAS WAITING FIRST FOR A MONTH TO GO BY, AND SECONDLY FOR MORE VOTES - BECAUSE UNTIL SOMEONE HAD CHANGED THEIR VOTE, THE VOTE WAS 4-2 WHICH IS NOT SUFFICIENT TO MAKE A 3/4'S MAJORITY (WHICH I HAD PROPOSED IN THAT EARILER MESSAGE AND EVERYBODY SEEMED TO AGREE ON). YOU CAN SEND YOUR VOTE TO WHOMEVER YOU WANT, BUT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE WISER TO DO IT IN EMAIL OR IN PERSON BECAUSE OBFUSCATES HAVE A TENDENCY TO CALL UNDER OTHER HANDLES AND THEY MIGHT SEE A <> MESSAGE. C- - - Message # 1379. Reply to #1370 Date: 12/03/93. Time: 10:10:36. Read 25 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Number Two Subj : Hey! RECEIVED JEEPERS CREEPERS. MAYBE I MISINTERPRETED MESSAGES 1278, 1295. FROM NOW ON IF SOMEBODY IS NOT VOTING - MAYBE THEY SHOULD SEND ME A MESSAGE SAYING THAT THEY ARE NOT VOTING. C- - - Message # 1381. Reply to #1371 Date: 12/03/93. Time: 10:18:05. Read 23 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Number Two Subj : Nomination RECEIVED CAN YOU POINT OUT SOME EXAMPLES? MISS INFORMED DOESN'T SEEM TO ME TO HAVE MADE MUCH OF A PRESENCE HERE ON THE BBS. I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT'S MANDATORY TO CALL, BUT WHEN I THINK OF MISS INFORMED MY MIND COMES UP BLANK - SO IT'S KINDA HARD FOR ME TO VOTE. C- - - Message # 1383. Date: 12/03/93. Time: 10:35:08. Read 26 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : VOTES I HAVE RECIEVED VOTES ON MOJO AND MISS INFORMED, SO I GUESS THAT MAKES IT OFFICIAL. SEND ME YOUR VOTES. MOJO IS A BIT OF A SPECIAL CASE AS HE IS MOVING SOON. IF THERE IS A TREMENDOUS RUSH OF VOTES SO THAT MOST EVERYBODY HAS VOTED I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF NOT WAITING FOR A MONTH (ANY OBJECTIONS?) I'M GOING TO CALL ARWEN AND YELLOWBEARD AND INFORM THEM ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON. C- - - Message # 1384. Reply to #1365 Date: 12/03/93. Time: 10:39:33. Read 28 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Hey! RECEIVED ONE MORE THING. I'M NOT ADAMANT ABOUT ABSOLUTE SECRECY. I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE NICE FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO VOTE WITHOUT GIVING AWAY THEIR POSITION TO THE PERSON WHOM THEY ARE VOTING ON. IF YOU VOTE PUBLICLY I WILL ACCEPT IT BUT I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE WISE THEN BECAUSE YOU MIGHT END UP WITH A SITUATION WHERE EVERYONE WHO VOTES YES VOTES PUBLICLY AND EVERYONE WHO VOTES NO VOTES PRIVATELY AND THEN IT'S NO SECRET AT ALL. ANOTHER SOLUTION, FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO, WOULD BE TO LEAVE ME A PRIVATE MESSAGE VOTING HERE ON THIS SUB. THAT WAY THE OTHER COSYSOPS WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE IT AND THERE WOULD BE LESS CHANCE FOR CONFUSION. BY THE WAY, WHEN YOU DO VOTE ON THESE THINGS, TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU INCLUDE THE WORD "VOTE" AND THE NAME OF THE USER SO THAT IT WOULD BE EASY TO CHECK THE VOTES BY SEARCHING FOR "VOTE MOJO" (FOR INSTANCE). C- - - Message # 1385. Reply to #1375 Date: 12/03/93. Time: 18:38:15. Read 23 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : Hey! RECEIVED Reread message #1278. Stranger Message # 1386. Reply to #1376 Date: 12/03/93. Time: 18:38:34. Read 21 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : Nomination RECEIVED At the time that the people who were made Obfuscates wer made obfuscate, they WERE calling. Then they moved away. The only reason I am voting no is because Miss Informed doesnt call. Stranger (I also think that he looks down on the Obfuscates, but I wouldn't vote no because of that...) Message # 1387. Reply to #1384 Date: 12/03/93. Time: 18:41:35. Read 26 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : Hey! RECEIVED My votes for the Users in Question: Ghost : Yes Mojo : Yes Miss Informed: No (at this time--I would change my vote if he started calling semi-regularly.) Stranger Message # 1388. Reply to #1359 Date: 12/04/93. Time: 01:00:06. Read 28 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : HACK MAN Subj : GHOST FOR OBFUSCATE RECEIVED I vote NO. Lynx p.s. why? because I can't vote YES when I haven't read anything by him. Message # 1393. Reply to #1375 Date: 12/05/93. Time: 17:19:10. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Hey! RECEIVED And such is the lot of an obfuscate. You expressed your apprehensions in such a way that Stranger and I got confused. Good job!...? And I don't think anyone has to vote, but it would be nice, if you gnow what I mean. Anyways, the only one who gnows which of us voted that "no" vote is HACK MAN. +++Gravebuster Message # 1394. Reply to #1377 Date: 12/05/93. Time: 17:19:43. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Hey! RECEIVED Well, okay, but don't let it happen again.... :) I can appreciate your concern, but the fact that someone doesn't want to meet us personally is different from the fact that we get along with someone in the message base, and what we see in the message base forms the basis of what we think of a user's ability to obfuscate. I think the latter carries the serious weight. However, your concern does bring up an oddity--will their ever be an obfuscate that we disinvite from Friday nights? I guess we'll fill in that river before we cross the bridge.... +++Gravebuster Message # 1395. Reply to #1378 Date: 12/05/93. Time: 17:20:16. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Hey! RECEIVED That isn't the way The Music Man and Stranger understood you, and that isn't what they told me. I prefer that we be allowed to either post our votes in public or in private. The reason is that posting a vote in public allows for debate and consideration of qualifications. Without debate, the obfuscate who nominates the user doesn't have any idea why someone may object, and thus argues against a wall. If there is another way to address this concern, then I would be glad to read it. +++Gravebuster Message # 1396. Reply to #1383 Date: 12/05/93. Time: 17:20:48. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : VOTES RECEIVED Don't forget to call Arwen Undomiel and YellowBeard. +++Gravebuster Message # 1397. Reply to #1384 Date: 12/05/93. Time: 17:21:18. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Hey! RECEIVED Good! There's too many secrets as it is.... :) By the way, Gaviscon voted publicly, but you killed my message because he cast his vote as one of my tag lines. That would be fine by me, too. I think people should be free to vote publicly on this subboard or privately on this subboard and the email subboard. I wonder what the reaction would be if someone posted their vote on the Tavern?... :) Oh, blast! I prefer saying "I support" or "I oppose" to "I vote 'yes'" or "I vote 'no'." WAH! +++Gravebuster Message # 1398. Reply to #1277 Date: 12/05/93. Time: 21:23:28. Read 18 Times. From : Ghost To : Gaviscon Aviscenna Subj : The gist on Ghost. creep. creep. creep. creep. creep. creep. creep. creep. creep. creep. creep. Hi, #2. You are right and they are all wet. Gav. Those who can, are. Those who can't, pretend. If such as I had a name, it might once have been Max Folks. But, then again, I could be lying down and resting comfortably. Message # 1399. Reply to #1381 Date: 12/05/93. Time: 23:15:38. Read 14 Times. From : Number Two To : HACK MAN Subj : Nomination RECEIVED I'll go look them all up and give you the subs and mesage numbers. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1400. Reply to #1385 Date: 12/05/93. Time: 23:17:25. Read 24 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : Hey! RECEIVED Geez, I was joking. I thought that much was obvious...... Be Seeing You ?? (I thought the "that guy's a creep" gave it away) #1400. Message # 1401. Reply to #1359 Date: 12/06/93. Time: 00:11:14. Read 20 Times. From : YellowBeard To : HACK MAN Subj : GHOST FOR OBFUSCATE RECEIVED Arr, says Yellowbeard, 'e'se a mighty obfuscated fellow 'e is. I vote Q. (or Yes if HM got it backwards.) YellowBeard -perpetually absent (all this swash-buckling can be tiring!) Message # 1402. Reply to #1401 Date: 12/06/93. Time: 00:37:19. Read 27 Times. From : Number Two To : YellowBeard Subj : GHOST FOR OBFUSCATE RECEIVED Vote Q for who (or is that whom?)? Ghost ?? Mojo ?? or Miss Informed ?? (I think that means all three) Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1403. Date: 12/06/93. Time: 00:38:11. Read 20 Times. From : Number Two To : Hack Man Subj : Miss Informed RECEIVED You wanted some examples of Miss Informed's obfuscatory posts, well I have a few for you. I would have found more, but it's very hard since he posted in spurts under different handles. It's like mining for gold. Weird Board #93 The BOg of Eternal Stench #419 #423 #418 #409 The Tavern #23729 (Arwen lists him as a member of some holy triumvirate) #23102 #23100 #23099 #23096 #23095 #23094 #22993 #22992 #22989 #22982 aND eSPECIALLY #22913 Is that enough or should I dig for more ?? Miss Informed/Phantom Sweetner/Firefly/Daemon tv Crying/Blur/bUGrOOSTER/alice is one of the most obfuscatory people I know, on a bbs and most definately in person. If there was ever a person who should be able to wear Obfuscate like a 4 knuckle 34k gold ring, it's him. If any of you have ever met him personally, you probably already know this. Voting NO just because he is unable to call, right now, is just as bad as voting NO because you don't like him, or something else stupid like that. Look to your pineal gland. Eris will give you the right answer, and Miss Informed will be extremely shocked the next time he calls. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1404. Date: 12/06/93. Time: 00:59:56. Read 21 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Doinksters unanimous Subj : Voting blindly and other inanities... Well, since I shall have toread everything I just captured back for a month and a half, I don't yet gnow who all is up for obfuscate elect status... except to Ghost, for whom I vote a rousing YES! for even though I don't gnow the individual but wonder if it may be Ubik in disguise... I like his/her/it's style. If Mojo is up, I say a definite NO... he wars he doesn't obfuscate. That would be like making Ned Zep an Obfuscate based on how much he hates everyone. As for the rest, I'll read up and get back to you. Thanx for the landline, HM. Har Muchus! (Gezundheit...) Arwen -==OBFUSCATE==- Message # 1405. Reply to #1397 Date: 12/06/93. Time: 01:31:38. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Hey! RECEIVED BLAH! C- - - Message # 1406. Reply to #1400 Date: 12/06/93. Time: 01:48:45. Read 14 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : Hey! RECEIVED I guess it wasn't tooo obvious, since you fooled Hack Man, Gravebuster, and me !! :) Stranger Message # 1407. Reply to #1403 Date: 12/06/93. Time: 01:50:06. Read 16 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : Miss Informed RECEIVED Okay, so why don't we just start making people Obfuscates who don't call at all?? My vote is no. (Go ahead and call my reason stupid--I'm a Taurus; it only makes me stick to the vote that much more !) Stranger (There are thousands of obfuscatory people in the world, but we don't have to make them all Obfuscates! I think participating in the board isn't TOO much to ask ...) Message # 1408. Date: 12/06/93. Time: 08:09:47. Read 19 Times. From : HACK MAN To : GHOST Subj : DOINK RECEIVED CONGRATULATIONS MR GHOST. OUR LITTLE GROUP OF STRANGE PEOPLE HERE HAS DECIDED THAT YOU, BEING EQUALLY STRANGE, SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED FOR YOUR CONFUSORY POWERS. SO, I'M GLAD TO ANNOUNCE THAT YOU ARE NOW OFFICIALLY AN OBFUSCATE, AND IN SO BEING ARE ENTITLED TO DO THOSE LITTLE FLASH OBFUSCATRONIX THINGS (SEE THE OBFUSCATE BULLETINS ON THE MAIN MENU), YOU ARE ALSO ENTITLED TO USE THE OBFUSCATE PARKING SPACE AT TOMMY'S BURGERS, AND YOU WILL BE RECOGNIZED AS A SAGE/SOOTHSAYER BY PENGUIN SOCIETY (AND THEY WILL NEVER LEAVE YOU ALONE AGAIN), ALSO YOU GET TOO TELL EVERYBODY YOU ARE AN OBFUSCATE AND FEEL GOOD ABOUT YOURSELF, THAT'S ABOUT IT. WHY DOESN'T EVERYBODY(SOMEBODY? ANYBODY?) TELL GHOST WHAT THEY THINK IT MEANS TO BE AN OBFUSCATE. (WHAT DOES IT MEAN? I FORGOT.) C- - - Message # 1409. Reply to #1408 Date: 12/06/93. Time: 16:05:07. Read 22 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : DOINK RECEIVED Um, it means you get to vote on whether someone else gets to be an Obfuscate!! hehe Oh yeah, I formally give up my title as the Penultimate Obfuscate, and hand it to Arwen Undomiel--she is now the Penultimate Obfuscate, until the next person is awarded (???) Obfuscate status, at which time Ghost will be Penultimate! Stranger Message # 1410. Reply to #1407 Date: 12/08/93. Time: 02:49:50. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : Miss Informed RECEIVED Agreed (somewhat), but I think meeting anyone who is to be an Obfuscate isn't too much either, and was branded as trying to enforce my standards on others. Oh well, it's too late for me to vote on Ghost, but I would have voted yes anyway. He DOES obfuscate; he just worries me too, for some unknown reason. Still, Miss Informed has called several times, in several incarnations, and would call again if he only had the chance. In fact, if I went over to his house, brought him over here, he would call. Plus, his neighbor has a Mac, and might have a modem to use for it. My point is he is EXTREMELY obfuscatory, and IS a caller here (his last call was June 2nd of this year), and SHOULD be made an Obfuscate. Be Seeing You ?? #1410. Message # 1411. Reply to #1408 Date: 12/08/93. Time: 02:54:50. Read 13 Times. From : Number Two To : HACK MAN Subj : DOINK RECEIVED It means now you are an elitist, like the rest of us, but it's okay, because you're part of the upper crust, and not some scummy bbs peasant. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1412 -- Private. Message # 1413. Reply to #1410 Date: 12/08/93. Time: 14:45:11. Read 13 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : Miss Informed RECEIVED Maybe you could ask Skurkey to let him use the dormant apple IIc. Then he could call at 1200 baud. Stranger Message # 1414. Reply to #1400 Date: 12/09/93. Time: 01:54:39. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Hey! RECEIVED That Much is obvious. That's why we don't send her on top secret missions anymore; she always gives herself away. +++Gravebuster Message # 1415. Reply to #1401 Date: 12/09/93. Time: 01:55:01. Read 13 Times. From : Gravebuster To : YellowBeard Subj : GHOST FOR OBFUSCATE RECEIVED "Q" means "Yes" in the 3AM Club voting method, so you don't have to be redundant, and HM did not get it backwards; HM spelled it "i t", not "t i!".... Another deadbeat dad. Is the Muffin Man gonna be another hatchkey kid?... +++Gravebuster Message # 1416. Reply to #1402 Date: 12/09/93. Time: 01:55:24. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : GHOST FOR OBFUSCATE RECEIVED Number Two, I would think the subject of the message clearly states who YellowBeard voted for, but I think that I should be asleep rather than responding to messages.... +++Gravebuster Message # 1417. Reply to #1403 Date: 12/09/93. Time: 01:55:48. Read 14 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Miss Informed RECEIVED You gnow, Number Two, you'd be better off capturing all those posts in one Telemate log and posting them as one message for two reasons. First, HACK MAN probably won't get around to reading all those messages unless you do it that way. Second, it helps YellowBeard, Arwen Undomiel, Mynk Lynx, and Gaviscon Aviscenna, all of whom must call long distance and can't afford to pick up messages like that. +++Gravebuster Message # 1418. Date: 12/09/93. Time: 01:58:08. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Hack Man/Ghost Subj : Response To HACK MAN's Message #1408 RECEIVED I've posted this before, but since HM asked for what obfuscation means to us, I think I'll post it again. It's page four from the Obfuscate's Book Of Something To Read.... +++Gravebuster Comments : BLAH=1 Message # 1419. Reply to #1418 Date: 12/11/93. Time: 00:04:53. Read 17 Times. From : Ghost To : Hack Man/Ghost/Gravebuster Subj : Response To HACK MAN's Message #1408 RECEIVED The moon is a different thing to each one of us. Frank Borman, from Apollo VIII, 12-24-68 Message # 1420. Date: 12/14/93. Time: 06:24:07. Read 22 Times. From : Stranger To : All Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! Anyone who thinks that Mojo wars obviously hasn't been reading very much of the BBS for about 2 years. If you're going to go by actions from two years ago, I shouldn't be an obfuscate either. Anyone who thinks that Mojo doesn't obfuscate obviously hasn't been reading the board much lately. In fact, I am rather certain that they haven't read any of the Pneumatic Roos sub, and I've noticed that the people who call regularly and read all of the posts voted yes, and the users who are pretty much has-beens here, and don't read all of the posts, voted no. Perhaps if you haven't been keeping up with the rest of us, your voice should grow quieter, or perhaps you could make an effort at seeing whether someone obfuscates. For example, you could read the Pneumatic Roos sub from the message 585 onward to the present, and you would gnow that indeed, Mojo IV is an Obfuscate without a Title. In conclusion, the first three paragraphs are the front part of the message and the fourth paragraph is the conclusion. Stranger Comments : WOW!=1 #1420. Message # 1421. Reply to #1420 Date: 12/14/93. Time: 08:01:46. Read 27 Times. From : Ghost To : Stranger Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED But aren't invertebrates a lower life form? Are you sure he is obfuscating in a purposeful manner? It could be a random sequence generated by the interaction of slug slime and silicon as he slides across the keyboard. I'll vote for anybody who provides food for thought. Yezzz.... Message # 1422. Reply to #1421 Date: 12/14/93. Time: 08:25:52. Read 23 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Ghost Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED I RAN OUT OF THOUGHT FOOD AND VONS HAS STOPPED STOCKING IT. NOW I HAVE ALL THESE HUNGRY LITTLE THOUGHTS THAT ARE ALMOST STARVING TO DEATH. WHAT DO I DO? C- - - Message # 1423. Reply to #1421 Date: 12/14/93. Time: 09:23:15. Read 23 Times. From : Stranger To : Ghost Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED Is that a Yes vote? Stranger Message # 1424. Reply to #1422 Date: 12/15/93. Time: 15:16:44. Read 19 Times. From : Ghost To : HACK MAN Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED You simply need to find someone whose ideas you can milk. Message # 1425. Reply to #1423 Date: 12/15/93. Time: 15:17:52. Read 25 Times. From : Ghost To : Stranger Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED The problem is nobody ever understands me. Let me make myself perfectly clear sah! . Message # 1426. Reply to #1425 Date: 12/15/93. Time: 18:01:42. Read 24 Times. From : Stranger To : Ghost Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED So is that a yes vote? Stranger Message # 1430. Reply to #1426 Date: 12/16/93. Time: 08:03:29. Read 19 Times. From : Ghost To : Stranger Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED What do you think? #1430. Message # 1431. Reply to #1430 Date: 12/16/93. Time: 13:00:17. Read 21 Times. From : Stranger To : Ghost Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED I was just thinking that I don't gnow if you're voting, if you're not voting, and if you are, what your vote is. Food for thought, huh? Stranger, a starving man Message # 1432. Reply to #1431 Date: 12/17/93. Time: 08:13:34. Read 24 Times. From : Ghost To : Stranger Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED You go find your own dinner. The thing is that I can hardly keep track of what's going on in my own mind, and now I have to figure out yours as well? Is this what we call a failure to communicate? Message # 1433. Reply to #1432 Date: 12/17/93. Time: 12:52:17. Read 20 Times. From : Stranger To : Ghost Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED So is that a yes or a no or an abstain? Stranger Message # 1434. Reply to #1433 Date: 12/18/93. Time: 08:32:06. Read 25 Times. From : Ghost To : Stranger Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED I am using a condom at this moment to vote yes. I always practice safe votes and never abstain a thing. Message # 1435. Date: 12/19/93. Time: 10:23:07. Read 28 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : INFINITE OBFUSCATRONIX I HAVE REPAIRED THE INFINITE OBFUSCATRONIX. IT TURNS OUT THAT I WAS CALLING THE SUBROUTINE THAT DETERMINES HOW MANY LINES TO JUMP, ONCE EVERY LOOP. IT SHOULD HAVE ONLY BEEN CALLED ONCE IN THE BEGINNING. BY CALLING IT ONCE EVERY LOOP THROUGH THE MESSAGE, THE PROGRAM WAS GENERATING RANDOM NUMBERS OUT OF THIN CYBERSPACE. THESE RANDOM NUMBERS WERE USUALLY NEGATIVE FOR SOME REASON, THUS CAUSING THE PROGRAM TO REJECT IT AND SUBSTITUTE 1 INSTEAD. IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS, SUFFICE IT TO SAY THAT THE BBS WAS OBFUSCATED. COMPUTERS SEEM TO HAVE A LOT MORE PROBLEMS UNDERSTANDING INFINITY THAN WE DO. C- - - Message # 1436. Reply to #1359 Date: 12/28/93. Time: 21:43:21. Read 17 Times. From : Tasslehoff Burfoot To : HACK MAN Subj : GHOST FOR OBFUSCATE RECEIVED Hmmm.... Who's Ghost? I suppose, since he has most of the vote, I'll do the lemming like thing and fearlessly agree. Or I could whimpily agree? I might just stay anonymous so that I don't blow my cover too. >The Tazz< p.s. Is it maybe too late for me to be voting? Message # 1438. Reply to #1436 Date: 12/29/93. Time: 09:01:49. Read 15 Times. From : Ghost To : Tasslehoff Burfoot Subj : GHOST FOR OBFUSCATE Vote No! From ghoulies and ghosties and long-leggety beasties And things that go bump in the night, Good Lord deliver us! Of course I wouldn't mind the Lord delivering me a long-leggety beastie, but that's another story. I'll see you anon. Message # 1439. Reply to #1419 Date: 12/30/93. Time: 16:44:28. Read 15 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Hack Man/Gravebuster/Ghost Subj : Response To HACK MAN's Message #1408 RECEIVED The moon is a different thing to each one of us? How fickle of the moon! I wonder if Harlequin is aware of the capriciousness of his distant lover? That's all that we need. A chameleon for a sun reflector! Send up the flies; she's gotta be plenty hungry by now! However, we must employ our lunacy towards darker sides, before the moonraker eclipses our selenography and the moony luminary orbits the night sky and interferes with our satellite dish. +++Gravebuster Message # 1440. Reply to #1421 Date: 12/30/93. Time: 19:57:47. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ghost Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED Only you would think of food when you think of him. Yes, invertebrates lower all kinds of lifeforms. In fact, the first elevator operates were invertebrates. They were replaces after the controls became impossibly slimy. I beg your pardon. Please let me have your pardon! OH PLEASE! I must have your pardon, I must, I must, please, please, please?... +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- #1440. Message # 1441. Reply to #1422 Date: 12/30/93. Time: 22:13:32. Read 21 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED Well, with little thought you could almost do anything, but only almost, so since there isn't anything you can do, then you will have to starve to death, and once you starve to there, you should starve to somewhere else, of course, which I believe is a pleasant place to be right now. +++Gravebuster Comments : BLAH=1 Message # 1442. Reply to #1423 Date: 12/30/93. Time: 22:13:53. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED No, I'm pretty sure that that is that.... +++Gravebuster Message # 1443. Reply to #1425 Date: 12/30/93. Time: 22:14:12. Read 20 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ghost Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED Could you pronounce "sah" backwards for us, just for fun?... +++Gravebuster Comments : ZZZZZZZ=1 Message # 1444. Reply to #1426 Date: 12/30/93. Time: 22:14:34. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED No, so is so.... +++Gravebuster Message # 1445. Reply to #1431 Date: 12/30/93. Time: 22:14:54. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED I vote that that is so, I think, so yes, there's food for a starving man, but don't give candy to strangers, because she may not like the company.... :) +++Gravebuster Message # 1446. Reply to #1435 Date: 12/31/93. Time: 11:49:16. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : INFINITE OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED Yeah! Yippee! Wow! I can't believe it! Fantastic! Supremo! Excellent, HM! Now, tell me how I should use the "XM" command (also gnown as "random position") with the infinite command. I usually put the ctrl-XM at the end of the line, just before the ctrl-I0, but lately that seems to cause the line to always start on the left side of the screen, rather than in random positions across the screen. See my "infinite doink mode" message to the Mikester on the Music subboard. +++Gravebuster Message # 1447. Reply to #1436 Date: 12/31/93. Time: 11:49:43. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Tasslehoff Burfoot Subj : GHOST FOR OBFUSCATE Oh, my words! Tazz, you called! Welcome back! Missed you. How are things going for you? We thought you weren't calling because you are subop of the Anti-Posters subboard, so we wondered if you'd start calling again if we took away that subopship. I'd rather not, because you make a cool subop of that sub. But I've always liked your posts, too, and I always wondered why you call other boards in the county and not this one anymore. Hope you call more often. By the way, Ghost is an obfuscate. There were two other votes going on for Mojo IV and MisInformed, but I don't think either one of those nominations are going to pan out this time. +++Gravebuster Message # 1448. Reply to #1443 Date: 12/31/93. Time: 12:24:12. Read 19 Times. From : Ghost To : Gravebuster Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED Just stand on your head literally instead of verbally once. Message # 1449. Reply to #1448 Date: 12/31/93. Time: 13:55:21. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ghost Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED I would stand on my head, except that I just don't have the stomach for it. Perhaps if you demonstrate the difference between the literary headstand, versus the verbal or the figurative headstands, then perhaps I could rounce with great efficiency. +++Gravebuster Message # 1450. Reply to #1440 Date: 01/01/94. Time: 02:35:39. Read 19 Times. From : Stranger To : Gravebuster Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED You can have MY pardon, but not my attention--that's locked away in a dark room with a life size walking tattoo of Jerry Lewis and a bottle of bourbon. Stranger #1450. Message # 1451. Reply to #1445 Date: 01/01/94. Time: 02:37:05. Read 23 Times. From : Stranger To : Gravebuster Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED of course she would---can d n I go way back. Stranger Message # 1452. Reply to #1449 Date: 01/01/94. Time: 02:38:22. Read 23 Times. From : Stranger To : Gravebuster Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED It's really easy to stand on your head. Just get a long sharp gnife (or a good boat-rudder) (NOT a goat udder!) and chop it off. It'll fall to the ground. Step forward. There, you're standing on your head. Stranger Message # 1453. Reply to #1452 Date: 01/01/94. Time: 07:56:28. Read 23 Times. From : Ghost To : Stranger Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED sah! Head cheese for lunch! Message # 1454. Reply to #1450 Date: 01/02/94. Time: 09:04:51. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED That's okay. You have to pay attention, and I already pay my attention enough as it is. +++Gravebuster Message # 1455. Reply to #1451 Date: 01/02/94. Time: 09:05:10. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED Oh, no! Such a horrible thing has happened! After all, we can never violate the sacred rule.... Never take candy from strangers.... +++Gravebuster Message # 1456. Reply to #1452 Date: 01/02/94. Time: 09:05:34. Read 20 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED Well, let's see. I take a long sharp knife. I get on my ship and go to the head. I try to chop off the head. My knife breaks. However, I can step forward and stand on my head, although there really isn't a lot of ceiling room down here. I guess it is easy. Thanks! Now, where am I going to get a new knife? +++Gravebuster Message # 1457. Date: 01/03/94. Time: 02:49:54. Read 20 Times. From : Tasslehoff Burfoot To : ALL Subj : Hmmm... Has a classification higher than Obfuscate ever been made official? I gnow that Dillusionist was being kicked/thrown/tossed around for some time, but I've either never heard the results or just can't recall them. Hmmm... >The Tazz< Message # 1458. Reply to #1166 Date: 01/05/94. Time: 23:18:24. Read 14 Times. From : The Music Man To : HACK MAN Subj : SUB BOARD PLANS RECEIVED Do we have an asylum yet? Message # 1459. Date: 01/05/94. Time: 23:58:51. Read 14 Times. From : The Music Man To : <>HACK MAN Subj : things RECEIVED can you read this? Message # 1460. Reply to #1408 Date: 01/06/94. Time: 00:10:33. Read 14 Times. From : The Music Man To : HACK MAN Subj : DOINK RECEIVED Being an obfuscate means that you rarely to never call the board. This, however, is not a requirement... #1460. Message # 1461. Reply to #1436 Date: 01/06/94. Time: 00:15:15. Read 17 Times. From : The Music Man To : Tasslehoff Burfoot Subj : GHOST FOR OBFUSCATE RECEIVED In case you haven't been informed, those of us oldfuscates who tend to be non- existent will not exist with regards to existing existence. Hence, obfuscatio Message # 1462. Reply to #1457 Date: 01/06/94. Time: 00:19:47. Read 13 Times. From : The Music Man To : Tasslehoff Burfoot Subj : Hmmm... RECEIVED Those of us who are dillusionists gnow... Message # 1463. Date: 01/06/94. Time: 00:20:32. Read 13 Times. From : The Music Man To : Whomever Subj : The vote I vote no unless I vote yes... Message # 1464. Reply to #1461 Date: 01/06/94. Time: 22:42:59. Read 16 Times. From : Tasslehoff Burfoot To : The Music Man Subj : GHOST FOR OBFUSCATE RECEIVED Ah... just wonderlful and just my point. Right where I want to be left. >The Tazz< Message # 1465. Date: 01/11/94. Time: 00:07:22. Read 29 Times. From : Number Two To : All Subj : Reiterate I reiterate that Miss Informed be made an Obfuscate, as he surely is an Obfuscate Avatar if I have ever seen one (I have seen one, ONE). I would also like to call for a public vote. Be Seeing You ?? (somebody call me at home and let me know how it goes) Message # 1466. Reply to #1465 Date: 01/11/94. Time: 01:53:37. Read 14 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : Reiterate RECEIVED I iterate my No vote on Miss Informed, and reiterate it, too. (For the same reasons I gave before...) Stranger Message # 1468. Reply to #1446 Date: 01/14/94. Time: 21:17:20. Read 19 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : INFINITE OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED THE XM COMMAND SHOULD BE JUST BEFORE THE FIRST CHARACTER OF REGULAR TEXT, AND THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY OBFUSCATRONIX CHARACTERS AFTER IT. C- - - Message # 1469. Reply to #1458 Date: 01/14/94. Time: 21:19:27. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Music Man Subj : SUB BOARD PLANS RECEIVED UM. NO. WHY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE IN AN ASYLUM? C- - - Message # 1471. Reply to #1441 Date: 01/14/94. Time: 21:21:07. Read 24 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED I WAS SOMEWHERE ELSE JUST BEFORE I CAME HERE. AND SOMEWHERE ELSE IS LIKE NOWHERE ELSE EXCEPT BY VIRTUE OF THE FACT THAT IT'S JUST LIKE EVERYWHERE ELSE. SO, WHY BOTHER? C- - - Message # 1472. Reply to #1459 Date: 01/14/94. Time: 21:21:56. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : <>HACK MAN Subj : things RECEIVED NO. C- - - P.S. BESIDES YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO MAKE IT A PRIVATE MESSAGE. <> DOESN'T WORK UNLESS THE MESSAGE IS PRIVATE. Message # 1473. Reply to #1409 Date: 01/21/94. Time: 00:51:41. Read 18 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Stranger Subj : DOINK RECEIVED And I accept the title with honor and will bear it with pride for the short time that I am allowed... Arwen "Penultimate" -==OBFUSCATE==- Message # 1474. Reply to #1420 Date: 01/21/94. Time: 00:52:06. Read 30 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Stranger Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED I take severe offense at being called a "has-been"... Have a child and see if it doesn't bring an incredible amount of change and/or chaos to YOUR life! I think it is really amazing how people on this board are so easily dismissed if they don't call daily and clutter up the subs with what would be better qualified as chat. I guess my priorities have shifted. And don't think that I don't think about all of the totally important posts that I am missing, wading through shit after shit comment, while I am changing a dirty diaper... Message # 1475. Reply to #1474 Date: 01/21/94. Time: 21:48:37. Read 32 Times. From : Stranger To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED Take a midol sweetie, you were a has been a long time ago. Stranger Comments : OUCH!=6000 Message # 1476. Reply to #1475 Date: 01/25/94. Time: 20:36:33. Read 28 Times. From : Stranger To : Stranger Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED Oh yeah, and your anger was just a guilt reaction upon seeing truth. You actually have no idea whether Mojo has warred or not in the past 2 years, DO YOU? Show me all of these "war posts" of his. I couldn't care less (possibly) how busy you are with your baby. That has nothing at all to do with who obfuscates and who DOESN'T. Stranger Message # 1477. Reply to #1453 Date: 01/26/94. Time: 02:24:59. Read 24 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Ghost Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED That wouldn't happen to be Dalmer Head Cheese, would it? oooooohhhhhhh! Message # 1478 -- Private. Message # 1479. Reply to #1477 Date: 01/26/94. Time: 08:15:20. Read 23 Times. From : Ghost To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED How udderly enchanting! Whey not? But rennet let it get you down. Not even the Muenster Family could object. Colby, Cheddar, Monterrey Jack, and the one with a Longhorn love the idea. Although Camembert is a stinker, Brie is being a real Brick about it and is totally Caraway over the thought of such a delicacy. Even though it may Provolone to be a bit Roquefort, just Limberger on down and with a slight Gruyere, we'll have an Edam Gouda time and Tilsit your Fontina into a Romano Mozarella. Port du Salut! Comments : OBFUSCATED=100 DOINK=100 BRAVO!=100 Message # 1480. Date: 01/28/94. Time: 00:02:25. Read 22 Times. From : Tasslehoff Burfoot To : ALL Subj : Could it be? Could this Ghost fellow actually be our long lost MIA Lex Luther? >The Tazz< #1480. Message # 1481. Reply to #1476 Date: 01/29/94. Time: 01:47:57. Read 28 Times. From : Arwen Undomiel To : Stranger Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED A Midol won't help what ails me. The only truth in what you posted is that I have bigger priorities now than calling this bulletin board. Something that will have repercussions for far longer than anything you or I will do or say on this BBs. If HM wants to un-Obfuscate me for not calling more often, or not Obfuscating on what you seem to think of as your level, so be it. If he used your criteria for doing so, a lot of old Obfuscates and Dillusionists would lose there status. And I admit that I was a little out of touch with the Mojo thing. But I still don't think that he is much of an Obfuscate. He posted for awhile like he gnew he was being considered, and then he dropped of to nothing more than posting overly repetative "SQuisH!"-posts. That gets to be about as interesting and unpredictably amusing as "Blah". I'll admit that I can be narrowminded and judgemental at times, if you will admit that you are no different, except that your objective is from the opposite extreme. And whether or not he has warred in the last two years compared to how often he has called in the last two years... show me his calling frequency as compared to when he stopped warring. I don't gnow why you want to fight about this. It isn't like my vote is going to make or break him. I don't hold any special sway over the decision. And my opinion is just as valid as yours. Speaking of which, I hearby nominate Jehan for Obfuscate. She obfuscates without really trying, her name is obfuscated because no one can seem to pronounce it correctly ("Jan" or "Jean" or "Je-Han"?), and I think she contributes well to the BBs. Her whole outlook is just a bit off center and it is refreshing and surprising at times. And she is totally cool. Comments : WAY!=1 Message # 1482. Reply to #1481 Date: 01/29/94. Time: 04:33:06. Read 27 Times. From : Stranger To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED I was fighting because you seemed to be voting without having any gnowledge whether or not he was obfuscating. Your other reasons are fine. I don't really care if you are de-obfuscated or not--once it is done, I dont think it should be undone. I vote no on Jehan on the basis that while yes, she is cool, she doesn't obfuscate. Stranger Message # 1483. Date: 01/29/94. Time: 06:52:21. Read 30 Times. From : HACK MAN To : STRANGER/ARWEN UNDOMIEL Subj : NOW NOW RECEIVED NOW NOW CHILDREN. GNOWING HOW GOOD THE TWO OF YOU ARE WITH PERSONAL JABS THIS COULD GO ON FOREVER IF WE DON'T JUST AGREE TO DISAGREE. HOWEVER, LET ME PUT MY TWO CENTS IN. ARWEN YOU SHOULD TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT MOJO HE HAS TRANSMOGRIFIED A BIT INTO AN IMPROVED AND MORE OBFUSCATED SLUGLIKE FORM. NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT HE IS NO LONGER SO WET BEHIND THE EARS (WHATEVER THAT MEANS). IF YOU ALL HAD SEEN THE THINGS THAT I PULLED ON BBS'S A DOZEN YEARS AGO YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME GRUDGES YOURSELF. C- - - Message # 1484. Reply to #1482 Date: 02/07/94. Time: 09:38:01. Read 20 Times. From : Ghost To : Stranger Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED Shay Pas Message # 1485. Reply to #1484 Date: 02/07/94. Time: 23:09:59. Read 19 Times. From : Stranger To : Ghost Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED What about her? (It's my opinion that she may be the one actual female obfuscate, but it's a little too soon to tell.) (Actually, I see a lot of possibilities out there.) Stranger Message # 1486. Reply to #1485 Date: 02/08/94. Time: 08:11:52. Read 19 Times. From : Ghost To : Stranger Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED Shay Pas is a natural. Grab 'em young and raise 'em up right. Message # 1487. Reply to #1486 Date: 02/08/94. Time: 17:29:14. Read 21 Times. From : Stranger To : Ghost Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED My sentience exactly! Stranger Message # 1488. Date: 02/16/94. Time: 23:53:05. Read 31 Times. From : Stranger To : Obfuscates Subj : Uh RECEIVED Maybe we should have Obfuscate sponsors! (Obfuscates could take people who seem to have obvious potential, like Mikester, Mojo, Shay Pas, etc) under their obfuscatory wing!) Or maybe we could just have a big hot dog bake sale and then try to get admitted into a nunnery as a group. Whichever seems like more fun. Stranger Message # 1489. Reply to #1384 Date: 02/21/94. Time: 00:36:16. Read 14 Times. From : YellowBeard To : HACK MAN Subj : Hey! RECEIVED TO I gnow this is an old subject, but an idea comes to mind regarding this particular problem... if we are voting for someone such as "Muffin Man", then we could post the message to "<>Muffin Man"... That way, everyone BUT the person being voted for can read it, and there is no need for embarrassment. YellowBeard Message # 1491. Reply to #1435 Date: 02/21/94. Time: 00:40:09. Read 20 Times. From : YellowBeard To : HACK MAN Subj : INFINITE OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED -= Obfuscate =- \= Obfuscate =\ |= Obfuscate =| /= Obfuscate =/ -= Obfuscate =- \= Obfuscate =\ |= Obfuscate =| /= Obfuscate =/ -= Obfuscate =- \= Obfuscate =\ |= Obfuscate =| /= Obfuscate =/ -= Obfuscate =- \= Obfuscate =\ |= Obfuscate =| /= Obfuscate =/ |= Obfuscate =| \= Obfuscate =\ -= Obfuscate =- /= Obfuscate =/ |= Obfuscate =| \= Obfuscate =\ -= Obfuscate =- /= Obfuscate =/ |= Obfuscate =| \= Obfuscate =\ -= Obfuscate =- /= Obfuscate =/ |= Obfuscate =| \= Obfuscate =\ -= Obfuscate =- Comments : BRAVO!=42 Message # 1492. Reply to #1488 Date: 02/25/94. Time: 23:49:29. Read 15 Times. From : Number Two To : Obfuscates/Stranger Subj : Uh RECEIVED Take them to a bowling alley on sunday, and eat a hot dog. Trust would be an obvious thing for me to say right now, so I did. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1493. Reply to #1492 Date: 02/26/94. Time: 00:27:10. Read 20 Times. From : Stranger To : Obfuscates/Stranger/Number Two Subj : Uh RECEIVED If I went to a bowling alley on sunday I might have to see baggage! Stranger Message # 1494. Reply to #1488 Date: 02/28/94. Time: 02:30:23. Read 18 Times. From : YellowBeard To : Obfuscates/Stranger Subj : Uh RECEIVED Arwen and I both think the second idea is definately the best. I could really get into that habit! As for the first idea, It sucks! Everyone seems to be forgetting a major premis of obfuscation -- That obfuscation is something you must BE, not BECOME. Anyone with enough practice can imitate an obfuscate (well not quite ANYONE), but a true obfuscate must be recognized... And Big Toe forbid, that we should show anyone the way... that would be most unobfuscatory!! Personally, I think we should start our own monastary/nunnary... we can spend our days in meditation upon the Obfuscate's Book of Something to Read, and chant unpronouncable words. Brother YellowBeard Message # 1495. Reply to #1483 Date: 02/28/94. Time: 02:33:53. Read 15 Times. From : YellowBeard To : STRANGER/ARWEN UNDOMIEL/HACK MAN Subj : NOW NOW RECEIVED That's funny, I thought that all sluglike beings were rather wet behind the ears! Perhaps in his case he was dry behind the ears... YellowBannaSlug Message # 1496. Reply to #1493 Date: 03/08/94. Time: 01:15:39. Read 19 Times. From : Number Two To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Stranger Subj : Uh RECEIVED I doubt it...... Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1497. Reply to #1496 Date: 03/08/94. Time: 22:59:20. Read 16 Times. From : Stranger To : Obfuscates/Stranger/Number Two Subj : Uh RECEIVED .... why is that? Stranger Message # 1498. Reply to #1497 Date: 03/11/94. Time: 23:41:02. Read 16 Times. From : Number Two To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Stranger Subj : Uh RECEIVED Well, unless there is baggage (sic) that I am unaware of, you wont encounter any. Be Seeeing U ( icannot back up... AArrrghhh!!!!!) Message # 1499. Date: 03/16/94. Time: 23:30:52. Read 25 Times. From : Number Two To : Obfuscates Subj : Nomination RECEIVED I once again reiterate my nomination of Miss Informed for Obfuscate status. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1500. Date: 03/17/94. Time: 14:48:10. Read 47 Times. From : Stranger To : Obfuscates Subj : Obfuscates RECEIVED I reiterate my nomination of Mojo. Stranger #1500. Message # 1501. Reply to #1499 Date: 03/18/94. Time: 00:24:48. Read 35 Times. From : Lynx To : Obfuscates/Number Two Subj : Nomination RECEIVED I once again vote no. Lynx p.s. let's just let it be known that for every time you re-iterate your nomination for MI I'll be voting no by default. Therefore not requiring me to post on this topic again. Unless of course I feel like it. Message # 1502. Reply to #1500 Date: 03/18/94. Time: 00:26:27. Read 31 Times. From : Lynx To : Obfuscates/Stranger Subj : Obfuscates RECEIVED I again reiterate my no vote for Mojo As well.. Lynx p.s. please take the comments in my last messages p.s. and apply them to this one. Message # 1503. Reply to #1500 Date: 03/18/94. Time: 10:04:56. Read 29 Times. From : Ghost To : Obfuscates/Stranger Subj : Obfuscates RECEIVED Yes Message # 1504. Date: 03/21/94. Time: 19:37:39. Read 26 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : ME I REITERATE MY NOMINATION THAT ALL NOMINATIONS BE REITERATED. C- - - Message # 1505. Reply to #1501 Date: 03/22/94. Time: 00:23:27. Read 33 Times. From : Number Two To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Lynx Subj : Nomination RECEIVED thanx for the honesty, and the closed mindedness.... Be Seeing You ?? (why?) Message # 1506. Reply to #1505 Date: 03/22/94. Time: 00:33:14. Read 33 Times. From : Stranger To : Obfuscates/Lynx/Number Two Subj : Nomination RECEIVED why ask why? drink liquid jesus. Stranger Message # 1507. Reply to #1505 Date: 03/26/94. Time: 01:31:06. Read 26 Times. From : Lynx To : Obfuscates/Lynx/Number Two Subj : Nomination RECEIVED Because. Lynx (why do you call it close minded?) Message # 1508. Reply to #1457 Date: 03/28/94. Time: 20:11:31. Read 24 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Tasslehoff Burfoot Subj : Hmmm... I hope not. The idea could not accomplish its goal. +++Gravebuster Message # 1509. Reply to #1508 Date: 04/01/94. Time: 23:44:23. Read 22 Times. From : Stranger To : Gravebuster Subj : Hmmm... RECEIVED No idea accomplishes its goal. Stranger Message # 1510. Reply to #1507 Date: 04/03/94. Time: 11:24:11. Read 25 Times. From : Number Two To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Lynx Subj : Nomination RECEIVED I call it closed mindedness because you arenot willing to look at what Stranger is presenting as argument of Mojo's worthiness to be an Obfuscatte. You don't like him, and in your mind that is reason enough to vote no. In my mind, that's closed mindedness, and simple prejudice. And "Because" as an answer to why...... C'mon Roy, if you have a reason that's reasonable, then tell us what it is. Because makes you sound childish. Be Seeing You ?? #1510. Message # 1511. Reply to #1510 Date: 04/04/94. Time: 03:23:18. Read 27 Times. From : Lynx To : Obfuscates/Lynx/Number Two Subj : Nomination RECEIVED Look dude, I don't have to explain a damn thing if I don't want to. I have had negative experiences with Mojo even after you people claim his conversion. He doesn't obfuscate naturally at all. Everything seems forced to me. I wanted to, so there. Lynx p.s. Now quit being so damn serious, I'm tired of everyone being serious and getting mad in here... the obfuscates used to be fun and wacky, now it's just to damn serious to have any fun. Message # 1512. Reply to #1511 Date: 04/04/94. Time: 09:03:52. Read 22 Times. From : Ghost To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Lynx Subj : Nomination RECEIVED I agree that if you damn seriously up, you get an accumulation of ill will that can result in an overflow of choler that, if channeled carelessly, will generate unending charges. Message # 1513. Reply to #1511 Date: 04/05/94. Time: 00:38:51. Read 23 Times. From : Stranger To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Lynx Subj : Nomination RECEIVED You're the most serious one here. Stranger Message # 1514. Reply to #1511 Date: 04/20/94. Time: 00:31:57. Read 23 Times. From : Number Two To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Lynx Subj : Nomination RECEIVED yup, just too damn serious....... Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1515. Reply to #1514 Date: 04/24/94. Time: 06:29:15. Read 32 Times. From : Stranger To : Obfuscates/Lynx/Number Two Subj : Nomination RECEIVED I nominate this one girl down the street (the one who sometimes wears that red cap with the design on it) to be an Obfuscate. She hasn't ever called the board, but she's memorized the amount of molecules in a single can of spagetti O's, and heck, that's good enough for me. Stranger (Okay, I was lying about the part about memorizing the amount of molecules in a single can of spagetti O's, but she's still obfuscated. Okay, so maybe she's not all that obfuscated, but it is a great hat. (Well, I guess it's not really even that great of a hat... but take pity on the poor pathetic little girl who doesn't have anything at all!) Comments : HAHAHA=1 Message # 1516. Reply to #1515 Date: 04/24/94. Time: 19:38:10. Read 27 Times. From : Lynx To : Obfuscates/Lynx/Number Two/Stranger Subj : Nomination RECEIVED I vote No Way Dude on that one! OBFUSCATES must be or must HAVE BEEN regular callers. The have beens are the dead obfuscates who were regular callers when they became Obfuscates. DOINK! Lynx Message # 1517. Reply to #1516 Date: 04/25/94. Time: 22:11:01. Read 24 Times. From : Stranger To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Stranger/Lynx Subj : Nomination RECEIVED There is no such rule at all. The only qualification for being an Obfuscate is being voted as one by the majority. (A majority is a fraction decided by the whim of Hack Man.) Stranger Message # 1518. Reply to #1517 Date: 04/25/94. Time: 23:56:30. Read 26 Times. From : Lynx To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Lynx/Stranger Subj : Nomination RECEIVED There is where you are very wrong. Just because this stuff wasn't passed on to you, and you chose to listen to someone elses spewing on the subject doesn't mean that you can believe what you wish. Wish what you may, but the reality of it all is that everyone who is or was an Obfuscate was a REGULAR caller at the time they became an Obfuscate. It's not coincidence. Lynx p.s. Coincidence is not it. Message # 1519. Reply to #1518 Date: 04/26/94. Time: 21:59:55. Read 30 Times. From : Stranger To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Stranger/Lynx Subj : Nomination RECEIVED There is no such rule! There is no such rule! There is no such rule! Stranger (I decided to try your tactics.) (P.S. Dude) Comments : HAHAHA=34 RASPBERRYS=1 Message # 1520. Reply to #1516 Date: 04/27/94. Time: 07:38:11. Read 21 Times. From : Ghost To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Stranger/Lynx Subj : Nomination RECEIVED I resent being called a 'have been'. #1520. Message # 1521. Reply to #1518 Date: 04/27/94. Time: 07:40:09. Read 19 Times. From : Ghost To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Stranger/Lynx Subj : Nomination RECEIVED Unfortunately, some of us are irregular callers at the best of times, alternating bouts of verbal diarrhea with total mental constipation, that usually leads to witless postulations until the next dose of cerebral metamuscil. Comments : HAHAHA=23 Message # 1522. Reply to #1519 Date: 04/28/94. Time: 00:08:42. Read 24 Times. From : Lynx To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Lynx/Stranger Subj : Nomination RECEIVED Dude, you do a lousy me. Lynx p.s. and THERE ARE NO RULES IN OBFUSCATION. And the OBFUSCATES have none that they have bothered to write down anyway. It's all been implied, and very traditionalistic. Message # 1523. Reply to #1522 Date: 04/28/94. Time: 11:36:07. Read 22 Times. From : Stranger To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Stranger/Lynx Subj : Nomination RECEIVED Not at all, and partly so, and to an extent, but not too much, and if you say so, but not completely, becaue of the ramifications, but even so, it's all one big thing, in a manner of speaking. Strangers Message # 1524. Reply to #1515 Date: 04/29/94. Time: 22:02:26. Read 22 Times. From : Number Two To : Obfuscates/Lynx/Number Two/Stranger Subj : Nomination RECEIVED I second, (and 34th if anyone will let me) Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1525. Reply to #1519 Date: 04/29/94. Time: 22:03:51. Read 21 Times. From : Number Two To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Lynx/Stranger Subj : Nomination RECEIVED hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha (if I had something profound to espouse, I would have puffed it out long ago) Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1526. Reply to #1518 Date: 05/03/94. Time: 12:01:42. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Stranger/Lynx Subj : Nomination RECEIVED IT'S NOT A COINCIDENCE, BUT IT'S NOT A RULE EITHER. C- - - P.S. RULES ARE MADE TO BE BROKEN. IF WE MAKE IT A RULE, THEN WE WILL BE REQUIRED TO BREAK IT. Message # 1527. Date: 05/11/94. Time: 15:28:35. Read 22 Times. From : Number Two To : all Subj : Missing Numeral Has anyone seen Number Two #2? He's been missing for quite some time and I am beginning to think thatmaybe there is foul play involved. If any of you see him or even just hear something about him, please let me know. Thanx. Be Seeing You ?? (looking) Message # 1528. Date: 05/13/94. Time: 02:41:44. Read 21 Times. From : Stranger To : blau reiders Subj : hail stones 4 you Random seizures were reported in the wives of Presbyterian ministers last week. Stranger Message # 1529. Reply to #1528 Date: 05/13/94. Time: 10:40:20. Read 25 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : hail stones 4 you RECEIVED After affect : ??? (perhaps a purging) Message # 1530. Reply to #1529 Date: 05/28/94. Time: 12:20:56. Read 26 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : hail stones 4 you RECEIVED The sun went into super nova only to remember that it had forgotten its pantaloons. Stranger #1530. Message # 1531. Date: 06/07/94. Time: 10:25:11. Read 23 Times. From : Number Two To : Gurney Hallack Subj : I would........... Message # 1532. Reply to #1531 Date: 06/13/94. Time: 04:39:44. Read 20 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : RECEIVED But we gnow that that would be just a dream. Perchance we should wake up (the layers of an onion end eventually with a tiny television and a small slug like creature.) (but wait, that's a different conversation.) anyways, i never said i played the fiddle. stranger Message # 1533. Reply to #1532 Date: 06/14/94. Time: 02:57:39. Read 20 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : RECEIVED (his scream) I ran amok back there, I must apologize. It would behoove me to inform you that I have been relegated to the lost and found pile just beneath the importance of infomercials bazaar and power lunch. I suppose it's for that bungled bang up in bangkok. As soon as I make a ladder, you'll here from me again. (her scream) I've fouled it all up. He loved me, she loved me and I tossed them to the wind (blowing foul), and tread upon their heads (it's ok we forgive you), hearts (everyone get's their heart broken at least once, it's ok), and feet (i see). I am less than lard, and less than that. lard = love (I scream) INCOMPETENCE INDETERMINATION INCOHERENT very very melancholic Message # 1534. Reply to #1533 Date: 06/15/94. Time: 14:17:16. Read 24 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : RECEIVED will = love i left through alley ways blinded to the public I arrived by tram in a park bright as the hellions playing there and you gnow? it didnt matter after all. Stranger Message # 1535. Reply to #1534 Date: 06/19/94. Time: 02:52:13. Read 25 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : RECEIVED It was me, I am so very sorry. I left the paper open to the section upon which his picture fairly stood out demanding retribution, and all she could do was laugh at the audacity of one such as I to provoke responses in the man who had once saved the world and was destined to be the one who destroyed it. His breath is wind of legends Message # 1536. Reply to #1535 Date: 06/23/94. Time: 05:53:39. Read 21 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : RECEIVED his shoes are the heroes of dogma. Stranger Message # 1537. Date: 06/24/94. Time: 02:14:30. Read 32 Times. From : Stranger To : Blah Riders Subj : Blah Blah. Message # 1538. Date: 06/28/94. Time: 23:48:49. Read 26 Times. From : Ghost To : Ghost Subj : RECEIVED The man has a point, standing on the horns of a dilemma, placed in the center of a whited gravestone. Gravely considered, he will die however he chooses, will he, nill he not. Only, he must first lose all, love? And how can he touch if all he touches prints itself on him in his own heartsblood? How can he not? Message # 1539. Reply to #1465 Date: 07/05/94. Time: 07:49:02. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Reiterate RECEIVED I cannot vote for Miss Informed because he does not call the BBS regularly. I gnow that a person can be obfuscatory even if they don't call the BBS at all, but I don't find that's relevant to this vote for the following reason. The other Obfuscates need to observe the user's post over a period of time before they can form an opinion of that person's obfuscation. This BBS is that forum. I gnow that the availability of a computer, his working hours and the fact that he lives outside the ZUM zone work against Miss Informed calling this BBS, but he still needs to call and call regularly to demonstrate his obfuscatory ability to the satisfaction of all the Obfuscates. I'm sorry that I must disagree with you on this. +++Gravebuster Message # 1540. Reply to #1468 Date: 07/05/94. Time: 07:49:37. Read 25 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : INFINITE OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED Surely one can use ctrl-z, ctrl-c5, ctrl-f and ctrl-i# after a ctrl-xm! Having blinking text bounce around the screen, changing colors each time, is a cool trick. Coupled with ctrl-xc and ctrl-p, and it can actually be pretty nifty. I use all those obfuscatronix after the ctrl-xm--they wouldn't make sense before it, especially the ctrl-f, ctrl-i#, ctrl-p and ctrl-xc. +++Gravebuster #1540. Message # 1541. Reply to #1471 Date: 07/05/94. Time: 07:51:08. Read 28 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED You should bother when the bothering is good, for at no other time has bothersomeness been so dear, to so many, for so long, that the bother you bother towards this bothersomeness shall be remembered as a far nobler deed than anything you have done before you were born. +++Gravebuster --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 1542. Reply to #1480 Date: 07/05/94. Time: 07:53:48. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Tasslehoff Burfoot Subj : Could it be? Now, there's an idea! +++Gravebuster --==but I don't think so==-- Message # 1543. Reply to #1481 Date: 07/05/94. Time: 07:54:38. Read 22 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED I unfortunately cannot affirm Jehan as Obfuscate right now either, for this reason only--she is just beginning to obfuscate. It's exciting as she's finding her own way of obfuscation, but it's just beginning. I would like to watch her continue this for awhile, and then I'll be the first to nominate her. +++Gravebuster Message # 1544. Reply to #1488 Date: 07/05/94. Time: 07:55:13. Read 30 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Obfuscates/Stranger Subj : Uh RECEIVED I've done that many times. I'm currently impressed with Mojo, Mikester, Jehan and ANN OTHERWORLD. The trick is, though, to get up beside them without them gnowing your helping them, and also to stay out of the way when they're doing their own thing. Be sure to use the proper hand signals when turning and braking. +++Gravebuster Message # 1545. Reply to #1494 Date: 07/05/94. Time: 07:55:47. Read 22 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Obfuscates/Stranger/YellowBeard Subj : Uh RECEIVED I can see your point. We shouldn't tell a person how to obfuscate. For starters, that's the wrong way to begin in the first place. But that's not what I'm talking about, and I don't feel that's what Stranger is talking about either. Perhaps a better term would be "encourage." As we see a user do something that is kinda sorta obfuscatory, we should affirm their effort, usually with a kind word and an equally obfuscatory response. As they join in the game, they develop the dormant skill, the hidden talent so to speak, until they obfuscate without any encouragement. Better yet, let's explore whether or not shipyards can be converted into parking garages. That should be encouragement enough. +++Gravebuster Message # 1546. Reply to #1504 Date: 07/05/94. Time: 07:56:32. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : ME RECEIVED The reiteration that all nominations be reiterated has been iterated. I'm so glad it's having such a good time being so "verb"al and all.... +++Gravebuster Message # 1547. Reply to #1509 Date: 07/05/94. Time: 07:56:57. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : Hmmm... RECEIVED Every idea accomplishes its goal, because no idea can have a goal, because a goal is an idea, and this is the ideal goal. +++Gravebuster Message # 1548. Reply to #1519 Date: 07/05/94. Time: 07:57:38. Read 21 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Lynx/Stranger Subj : Nomination RECEIVED No, it's not a rule. But it is a reason, a reason that has been often given for why Obfuscates do not think that a person should be an Obfuscate. It is the main reason why Typan, a woman who I daresay obfuscates more than many who have entered this temple, was never given the title Obfuscate. But whether there be rules or reasons, all can be combined into the overwhelming reality that is beyond our comprehension, where it then becomes more fodder or the obfuscation, and thus, it does not matter that much except to us, and even then its importance only lies in us figments search of kumquatment, as relegated in this imagination. Should soccer balls be colored shock pink instead of white? +++Gravebuster Message # 1549. Reply to #1527 Date: 07/05/94. Time: 07:58:14. Read 20 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Missing Numeral RECEIVED You gnow, there are really too many Number Twos to keep track of. Maybe the Number 2 Number 2 tottered off to the tules? But of course, if the Number Two Number Two didn't tottered off to the tules, Number Two would gnow, as if the Number Two Number Two did tottered off to the tules, so, if that be the case, where in the tules did the Number Two Number Two totter off to? And of course, all Number Twos, even though there may be too many, serve their purpose, and with that purpose, they are needed, so there is none too many at that. Let it be said, then, that if the Number Twos fail to find the Number Two Nuber Two, then perhaps it is because they have not looked, or they have looked and have not found, or they have looked and found and have not realized, because they cannot see the tules for all the trees. I've never drank a mint julep. +++Gravebuster Message # 1550. Reply to #1538 Date: 07/05/94. Time: 07:58:50. Read 26 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ghost Subj : RECEIVED If love is lost, then love is found, unless it wasn't love at all. If that's the case, or even if it's not, let him take heart and print himself over all the touchy subjects that bleed. And if he cannot, he then can knot. +++Gravebuster #1550. Message # 1551. Reply to #1550 Date: 07/05/94. Time: 22:21:43. Read 26 Times. From : Ghost To : Gravebuster Subj : RECEIVED Love lost and found belongs in another book and is found, when found at all by Another's hand, not mine. I did not look for love, but it found me. And, because of that, I hesitate at the door for just a moment, distracted from my passage. found me. Message # 1552. Reply to #1551 Date: 07/09/94. Time: 21:52:34. Read 22 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ghost Subj : RECEIVED Even insubstantiality has substance. I have a jar of pickles, and I am not sure what is better, the jar of pickles or being in a pickle. Perhaps I should relish this existence until I'm cured?... +++Gravebuster Message # 1553. Reply to #1536 Date: 07/11/94. Time: 21:31:12. Read 22 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : RECEIVED And a wink of the smile he wears pulls the creases out of the laugh lines of old women. Gasp! Message # 1554. Reply to #1539 Date: 07/11/94. Time: 21:32:58. Read 20 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Reiterate RECEIVED Fine..... oh well Message # 1555. Reply to #1544 Date: 07/11/94. Time: 21:34:23. Read 28 Times. From : Number Two To : Obfuscates/Stranger/Gravebuster Subj : Uh RECEIVED To tell the truth, the person who I think shows the most promise is Shay Pas. I don't even think she needs to get better at it. She logged on and immediately developed her own style, and began Obfuscating almost as fast. I would list some of her obfuscatory posts, but they all are. What do you Sizzle chest's think ?? Comments : WAY!=1 WOW!=1 Message # 1556. Reply to #1549 Date: 07/11/94. Time: 21:37:35. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Missing Numeral RECEIVED Your wacked dude Your Pal 2 Message # 1557. Reply to #1553 Date: 07/12/94. Time: 07:52:59. Read 19 Times. From : Ghost To : Number Two Subj : RECEIVED beautiful Message # 1558. Reply to #1552 Date: 07/12/94. Time: 07:54:18. Read 22 Times. From : Ghost To : Gravebuster Subj : RECEIVED There is no substance to be found. A strong light shines through. And the strongest Light renders even a stubborn solid translucent. Message # 1559. Reply to #1555 Date: 07/13/94. Time: 07:24:20. Read 20 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Obfuscates/Stranger/Gravebuster/Number Two Subj : Uh RECEIVED Your exaggerations have created ponderous illuminations that cry for another Snapple to quenchthe excrescent bewilderment. +++Gravebuster --==by the way, I could never keep this straight; are we supposed to use language to communicate?==-- Message # 1560. Reply to #1559 Date: 07/13/94. Time: 08:16:03. Read 23 Times. From : Ghost To : Obfuscates/Stranger/Number Two/Gravebuster Subj : Uh RECEIVED Use language to communicate only when you can no longer obfuscate. #1560. Message # 1561. Reply to #1541 Date: 07/14/94. Time: 05:51:11. Read 26 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED YOU'RE BOTHERING ME. C- - - Message # 1562. Date: 07/14/94. Time: 06:33:11. Read 35 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : STUFF AFTER READING THESE HUNDREDS OF MESSAGES IN A VAIN ATTEMPT TO CATCH UP SINCE MY OPERATION (STILL TRYING. TOO BAD I HAVE A LIFE.) LET ME JUST SAY THAT MIKESTER SEEMS TO BE BLOOMING IN HIS OBFUSCATION AND SELF DILLUSION. C- - - Comments : WAY!=101 Message # 1564. Reply to #1558 Date: 07/14/94. Time: 17:43:57. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ghost Subj : RECEIVED That would be a substantial Light then. +++Gravebuster Message # 1565. Reply to #1564 Date: 07/14/94. Time: 22:59:43. Read 22 Times. From : Ghost To : Gravebuster Subj : RECEIVED Wattage is not important. It can transubstantuate on its own. Message # 1566. Date: 07/15/94. Time: 00:30:48. Read 25 Times. From : Gravebuster To : All/Lynx/HACK MAN Subj : Definitions Of DOINK! RECEIVED DOINK ----- #1 Huh? #2 Hi! #3 Bye! #3.14159265... #4 Yes. #5 No. #6 Maybe. #7 Doink #8 --==OBFUSCATE==-- #9 Good. #10 Bad. #11 I like that. #12 I hate that. #13 You Suck. #14 You Blow. #15 Please. #16 Thank You. #17 similar to LOL but worse #18 Hey! #19 WHAT! #20 What do you want to do? #21 I dunno what do you want to do? #22 I Want You #23 I Need You #24 I Love You #25 Wow! #26 Am I here? #27 Am I dead? #28 Do you care? #29 Save me. #30 HUGZ! #31 (e.g. Hack Man sucks) #32 Space the final frontier.... (and so on) #33 Hmmm... #34 Well... #35 Errr... #36 Ummm... #37 Who? #38 What? #39 When? #40 Where? #41 Why? #42 42 #43 I'm tired... #44 Me too! #45 Me 3.14159265... #46 That's stupid #47 I just got paid. #48 I have an incredible lack of money. #49 I like that song. #50 I hate that song. #51 I don't like or hate that song. #52 I can't hear you? #53 Turn it down! #54 ghoti #55 Pass me the chameleon deck. #56 Pass me the communion duck. #57 I wanna play ROOK. #58 We never play Rook. #59 We always play Rook. #60 I hate Rook. #61 I don't wanna think when I play a game. #62 Let's play Cosmic Encounter. #63 We always play that. #64 You hve to think to play that. #65 You always say that we always play that. #66 Lets play Rage. #67 I hate Rage. #68 Anything #69 various ranchy remarks about sex and such incuding an extended remix of "Sit On My face" by Monty Python #70 I hate it when you say that. #71 Why hate it? #72 What did it do to you? #73 Why do you hate it? #74 It never did anything to you? #75 It's actually rather nice. #76 However, It's not alone. #77 It's got friends. #78 You know it. #79 When is that joke gonna die? #80 That's it. #81 (Knight who says Nee speaking) "No! He said it. Ohhhh I've said it. I said it again... Arghhhh!" #82 diuvku (chewed up cookies) #83 vfj (addendum 4-13-94 shortened to 'vf' because we found a silent j word) #84 fritlditlbotlbing (to turn on a computer) #85 fritditlbotlbang (past tense) #86 fritlditlbotlbung (past participle) #87 fritlditlbotlist (one who turns off a computer) #88 fritlditlbotlism (the religion/belief that turning on a computer will get one into heaven) #89 fritlditlbotomy (to turn off a computer) #90 Did I say something wron? #91 Did I do something wrong? #92 Blah! #93 Wah! #94 Q #95 Picard #96 Bink! #97 Ping! #98 Boing! #99 (The last digit of pi) #100 Why ask why? #101 Try DOINK! dry. #102 No, thank you. #103 There's enough negatives in DOINK! That's all I have to say. #104 There's enough positives in DOINK! That's all I have to say. #105 There's enough neutrals in DOINK! That's all I have to say. #106 I would say something at this time, however, my neurons aren't firing properly. #107 Work blows! #108 fute (f***ing cute) #109 fugly (f***ing ugly) #110 Macintoshes blow! #111 Clones rule. #112 Belch. #113 Flatulence! #114 One liners blow. #115 Maginal masterfication rules. #116 Ask me if I care? (see #28) #117 (see #118) #118 (see #117) #119 Can't we all jest get along? #120 Resistance is futile. #121 Futility is resistant. #122 Fertility is resiliant. #123 456789 #124 Are you impressed? #125 Are you depressed? #126 Are you supressed? #127 Are you compressed? #128 Are you repressed? #129 Help! Help, I'm being repressed! #130 There's only one thing that I know how to do well, and I've often been told that you only can do what you kow how to do well and that's be you, be what you're like, be like yourself, and so I'm having a wonderful time but I'd rather be whistling in the dark. #13 Now it's over, I'm dead and I haven't done anything that I want, or I'm still alive and there's nothing I want to do. #132 I don't want the whole world. I just want your half. #133 Everybody wants prosthetic foreheads on their real heads. #134 What's that blue thing doing here? #135 I'm your only friend. I'm not your only friend, but I'm a little glowing friend, but really I'm not actually your friend, but I am. #136 (Secret message from Lynx to Wind Dancer) #137 (I'm sorry; #136 is actually #137) and still going... Courtesy of Gravebuster and Lynx +++Gravebuster Comments : HAHAHA=1 Message # 1567. Reply to #1555 Date: 07/15/94. Time: 04:13:25. Read 26 Times. From : Stranger To : Obfuscates/Stranger/Gravebuster/Number Two Subj : Uh RECEIVED I agree. Stranger Message # 1568. Reply to #1562 Date: 07/15/94. Time: 04:14:02. Read 21 Times. From : Stranger To : HACK MAN Subj : STUFF RECEIVED I agree. Stranger Message # 1569. Reply to #1560 Date: 07/15/94. Time: 07:35:18. Read 20 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Obfuscates/Stranger/Number Two/Gravebuster/Ghost Subj : Uh RECEIVED Ah, but if I communicate when I can't ate, I will complicate when I explicate, which will implicate I obfuscate while I communicate, which we never try to do. +++Gravebuster Message # 1570. Reply to #1561 Date: 07/15/94. Time: 07:36:20. Read 24 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED And thus you shall experience enlightened kumquatment.... +++Gravebuster #1570. Message # 1571. Reply to #1562 Date: 07/15/94. Time: 07:37:11. Read 32 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : STUFF RECEIVED I nominate Mikester for obfuscate. Please post your vote and opinions on this subboard, or leave me email. +++Gravebuster Message # 1572. Reply to #1567 Date: 07/15/94. Time: 22:13:19. Read 22 Times. From : Ghost To : Obfuscates/Gravebuster/Number Two/Stranger Subj : Uh RECEIVED Yes. Ghost. Message # 1573. Reply to #1571 Date: 07/15/94. Time: 22:59:19. Read 25 Times. From : Lynx To : Gravebuster Subj : STUFF RECEIVED For some reason I forgot if Q is yes or no... and Picard.... Hmmm... if(Picard == 'Yes' || Picard == TRUE) { LynxVote(Picard); } else { LynxVote(Q); } // ( || is OR ) while(Everyone.state == LAUGHING) { printf("DOINK!\n"); } Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 1574. Reply to #1569 Date: 07/15/94. Time: 23:08:24. Read 23 Times. From : Ghost To : Obfuscates/Stranger/Number Two/Ghost/Gravebuster Subj : Uh RECEIVED And I obfuscate when I try to communicate, I'm told. Odd, when you consider I always say exactly what I mean. Message # 1575. Reply to #1574 Date: 07/15/94. Time: 23:46:30. Read 22 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Obfuscates/Stranger/Number Two/Gravebuster/Ghost Subj : Uh RECEIVED SOMETIMES WHAT YOU MEAN EXCEEDS OUR MEANS. (AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE MEAN.) C- - - Message # 1576. Reply to #1565 Date: 07/16/94. Time: 07:25:02. Read 23 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ghost Subj : RECEIVED Well, watt is substantially important? +++Gravebuster Message # 1577. Reply to #1576 Date: 07/16/94. Time: 07:26:03. Read 22 Times. From : Stranger To : Gravebuster Subj : RECEIVED Watt isnt important. Nothing is important on it's ohm turns. Stranger Message # 1578. Reply to #1577 Date: 07/16/94. Time: 07:45:30. Read 21 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : RECEIVED You may keep your futility. +++Gravebuster Message # 1579. Reply to #1578 Date: 07/16/94. Time: 08:09:35. Read 25 Times. From : Stranger To : Gravebuster Subj : RECEIVED May I? Thank you for your kind gift. Stranger Message # 1580. Reply to #1575 Date: 07/16/94. Time: 19:06:28. Read 20 Times. From : Ghost To : Obfuscates/Stranger/Number Two/Gravebuster/Ghost/HACK MAN Subj : Uh RECEIVED Then just look for the mean. I'll agree to an average consensus. #1580. Message # 1581. Reply to #1576 Date: 07/16/94. Time: 19:07:32. Read 25 Times. From : Ghost To : Gravebuster Subj : RECEIVED It doesn't really meter, but it can be shocking, nonetheless. Message # 1582. Reply to #1573 Date: 07/17/94. Time: 00:21:29. Read 27 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Lynx Subj : STUFF RECEIVED Moitor: Q. Everybody: HAHAHA! Thank you, Lynx, for your support! Two Obfuscates voted "yes" for Mikester, including me. Do I read another? +++Gravebuster Message # 1583. Reply to #1574 Date: 07/17/94. Time: 00:21:49. Read 23 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Obfuscates/Stranger/Number Two/Gravebuster/Ghost Subj : Uh RECEIVED It's definitely a gift you have, and it's not even Christmas. It was your birthday, though. +++Gravebuster Message # 1584. Date: 07/19/94. Time: 02:30:56. Read 23 Times. From : Stranger To : stranger/everyone else Subj : You are all RECEIVED looking at these words much too hard Message # 1585. Reply to #1584 Date: 07/19/94. Time: 07:40:13. Read 22 Times. From : Ghost To : everyone else/Stranger Subj : You are all RECEIVED finding it too hard to look at these words Message # 1586. Date: 07/19/94. Time: 23:34:29. Read 25 Times. From : Ghost To : ALL Subj : And the not-pain sizzles and fries until, burning, I dance carefully between all the knives shattering in the wind, each surface gleaming, reflecting me back at myself as I dance inside and beside them. Message # 1587. Reply to #1586 Date: 07/22/94. Time: 12:43:34. Read 22 Times. From : Stranger To : Ghost Subj : RECEIVED every gnife is a double realitied non being coupled with chains random dismentia must occlude and change random sizzling sizing and gone to believe in everything else S.e.X. Message # 1588. Reply to #1587 Date: 07/22/94. Time: 15:18:02. Read 21 Times. From : Ghost To : Stranger Subj : RECEIVED Doubly refected inward, out chained to habitual realities bleeding love away life through ancient wounds singing death rains ironic knowledge too late G. Message # 1589. Reply to #1579 Date: 07/24/94. Time: 00:27:31. Read 20 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Stranger Subj : RECEIVED Oh, come now. It's yours, after all. +++Gravebuster Message # 1590. Reply to #1581 Date: 07/24/94. Time: 00:27:54. Read 19 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ghost Subj : RECEIVED The amplitude of that connection has overloaded the circuit, so you'd better make things short. +++Gravebuster #1590. Message # 1591. Date: 07/24/94. Time: 03:08:28. Read 30 Times. From : Gravebuster To : All Subj : Mikester For Obfuscate So far, only two obfuscates have voted during Mikester's nomination. Just to make sure that people haven't missed the announcement, I have nominated Mikester for obfuscate. Everyone, please leave me your vote. +++Gravebuster Message # 1592. Reply to #1591 Date: 07/25/94. Time: 08:55:13. Read 28 Times. From : Ghost To : Gravebuster Subj : Mikester For Obfuscate RECEIVED Yes. Message # 1593. Date: 07/25/94. Time: 19:41:32. Read 26 Times. From : Gravebuster To : All Subj : Shay Pas's Nomination I vote Q, as in yes! Although I agree that her previous messages have been obfuscatory, albeit I never noticed until Number Two pointed it out, message #46898 on the Tavern cinched my vote. +++Gravebuster Message # 1599. Reply to #1584 Date: 07/29/94. Time: 04:08:53. Read 28 Times. From : Gravebuster To : everyone else/Stranger Subj : You are all RECEIVED I'm sorry. I promise to soften up a bit the next time I look at those words. +++Gravebuster --==fluffy vision==-- Message # 1600. Reply to #1586 Date: 07/29/94. Time: 04:09:21. Read 31 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ghost Subj : RECEIVED Next time, use Crisco. +++Gravebuster #1600. Message # 1621. Reply to #1599 Date: 07/29/94. Time: 12:02:55. Read 25 Times. From : Stranger To : everyone else/Stranger/Gravebuster Subj : You are all RECEIVED Thank you. That's all I ask, except for the other stuff. Stranger Message # 1622. Date: 07/29/94. Time: 12:09:35. Read 31 Times. From : Stranger To : Mojo Iv Subj : Blah Crocodiles Need Extramarital Help RECEIVED Hey Man, stop infecting the Temple with one-liners! This is beginning to look like the Tavern, or some other Gridpoint-infected sub board. I wouldnt say anything, but it's my job to complain about the incursion of gridpointliness into the board, and I take my job and everything else except the things that I dont take seriously seriously. Strangously Message # 1623 -- Private. Message # 1624. Reply to #1592 Date: 07/29/94. Time: 18:17:32. Read 29 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Ghost Subj : Mikester For Obfuscate RECEIVED That makes it three yeses for Mikester. +++Gravebuster --==I not sure which way looks better, "yeses" or "yesses." The dictionary says either way is fine, but both of them look ridiculous. Maybe I should use "ayes?"==-- Message # 1642. Date: 07/30/94. Time: 22:04:36. Read 20 Times. From : Gravebuster To : All Subj : Responses To The Messages Left By Mojo IV That For Some Reason Were Killed The state of pi is yours? Did all your states secede from your union during the great war of conscience? +++Gravebuster Message # 1643. Date: 07/30/94. Time: 22:06:11. Read 21 Times. From : Gravebuster To : All Subj : Another Response To A Message By Mojo That For Some Reason Was Killed Are you sure you didn't have some hidden help with that? Do you realize how many bezillion times you would have to do something weird in order to gain a thousand points? Anyway, I had it from a reliable source (i.e. HACK MAN) that you were soon to be made an Obfuscate, anyway. I think it's funny that you got in here through pure obsessive futility. Welcome. So, how many slugs can dance on a pinhead? And why would they? +++Gravebuster Message # 1644. Reply to #1642 Date: 07/31/94. Time: 05:24:19. Read 19 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Gravebuster Subj : Responses To The Messages Left By Mojo IV That For Some Reason Were Killed RECEIVED My state is a bit off the beaten path. Lets face it. If I were panhandling in Santa Monica, I'd probably get hit by a car, but I'd at least be alot cleaner. I live in 3.14+ states, most of them part of the Union and none of them being Israel. =>Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- Message # 1645. Reply to #1643 Date: 07/31/94. Time: 05:25:47. Read 19 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Gravebuster Subj : Another Response To A Message By Mojo That For Some Reason Was Killed RECEIVED Well --- I was already a Sub-Op... that helps(my access level was 9000), and I did, legitimately, build up 1000 some points... =>Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- Comments : GIVE ME A BREAK!=34 Message # 1646. Date: 07/31/94. Time: 06:08:59. Read 21 Times. From : Ghost To : all Subj : A general warning Beware the war dance of salty-tongued slugs. Their ways are unexpected and unpredictable. They are known to worm their way into moist, dark corners and take up residence in the backs of minds and appear at odd moments in odder places with very entertaining results. What may appear erractic and sluggish gets the job done down. Welcome. Message # 1647. Date: 07/31/94. Time: 08:29:28. Read 25 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : MOJO I'D LIKE TO WELCOME MOJO AS OUR NEWEST OBFUSCATE. PERSONALLY I THINK HE IS ONE OF THE BEST OBFUSCATORS WHO CALLS THE BBS. PERHAPS SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THE OLD MOJO AND ARE UNWILLING TO PUT DOWN THEIR PREJUDICES IN ORDER TO GET TO GNOW THE NEW MOJO, BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE PERSONAL FEELINGS ARE IRRELEVANT TO THE MATTER AT HAND WHICH IS OBFUSCATION. MY COUNT WAS 6 YES / 1 NO / AND 1 ONE WHICH I'M NOT SURE IF IT IS A NO OR ABSTAIN. THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME. I'D ALSO LIKE TO CONGRATULATE MOJO FOR FORCING THE ISSUE IN AN OBFUSCATED WAY BY PLAYING DO SOMETHING WEIRD ENOUGH TIMES TO GO TO 10000 IN ACCESS LEVEL. C- - - Comments : BRAVO!=2 Message # 1648. Reply to #1646 Date: 07/31/94. Time: 16:44:15. Read 26 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Ghost Subj : A general warning RECEIVED But... But... But... I'm justa mollusk! Look, I don't even have STINGER CELLS!!! =>Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- Message # 1649. Reply to #1647 Date: 07/31/94. Time: 16:52:42. Read 23 Times. From : Mojo IV To : HACK MAN Subj : MOJO RECEIVED <> Message # 1650. Date: 07/29/94. Time: 07:28:12. Read 45 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Stranger Subj : The gist on Ghost. RECEIVED I'd use them, if I knew them. The textfile's missing from the Obfb bbb Ugh... modem paused... I'd use them, if I knew them. The textfile's missing from the obfusca- bullets. <> =>Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY Lynx ON 07/30/94 AT 16:57:08 MOVED FROM "The BOg of Eternal Stench" BY HACK MAN ON 07/31/94 AT 21:32:58 #1650. Message # 1651. Date: 07/29/94. Time: 07:20:19. Read 37 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Gravebuster Subj : Barney Evangelism RECEIVED Barney is the source of all Spam. <> =>Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY Lynx ON 07/30/94 AT 16:57:49 MOVED FROM "The BOg of Eternal Stench" BY HACK MAN ON 07/31/94 AT 21:33:10 Message # 1652. Date: 07/28/94. Time: 22:02:27. Read 37 Times. From : Mojo IV To : HACK MAN Subj : Disorientation RECEIVED Oh, ask your mother, dear... MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY Lynx ON 07/30/94 AT 16:58:40 MOVED FROM "The BOg of Eternal Stench" BY HACK MAN ON 07/31/94 AT 21:33:24 Message # 1653. Date: 07/28/94. Time: 21:55:41. Read 36 Times. From : Mojo IV To : THE MUSIC MAN Subj : Oh Wow! RECEIVED But still with us, then? MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY Lynx ON 07/30/94 AT 16:58:55 MOVED FROM "The BOg of Eternal Stench" BY HACK MAN ON 07/31/94 AT 21:33:34 Message # 1654. Date: 07/29/94. Time: 11:00:43. Read 37 Times. From : Mojo IV To : STRANGER/ARWEN UNDOMIEL/HACK MAN Subj : NOW NOW RECEIVED Slugs are ALWAYS wet behind the ears... =>Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY Lynx ON 07/30/94 AT 16:59:02 MOVED FROM "The BOg of Eternal Stench" BY HACK MAN ON 07/31/94 AT 21:33:42 Message # 1655. Date: 07/29/94. Time: 11:02:41. Read 36 Times. From : Mojo IV To : HACK MAN Subj : INFINITE OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED Can I get ahold of a list of all the commands? Their missing from the Obfuscatory Bulletins menu. <> =>Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY Lynx ON 07/30/94 AT 16:59:15 MOVED FROM "The BOg of Eternal Stench" BY HACK MAN ON 07/31/94 AT 21:33:48 Message # 1656. Date: 07/29/94. Time: 11:24:12. Read 36 Times. From : Mojo IV To : SYSOP Subj : DILLUSION TEST. RECEIVED Whoa... it turned my cursor into a Gateway to Hell! =>Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY Lynx ON 07/30/94 AT 16:59:24 MOVED FROM "The BOg of Eternal Stench" BY HACK MAN ON 07/31/94 AT 21:34:01 Message # 1658. Date: 07/28/94. Time: 21:55:23. Read 38 Times. From : Mojo IV To : SYSOP Subj : THIS BOARD RECEIVED Awww... gee... THANKX!!! MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY Lynx ON 07/30/94 AT 17:00:43 MOVED FROM "The BOg of Eternal Stench" BY HACK MAN ON 07/31/94 AT 21:34:18 Message # 1659. Date: 12/04/93. Time: 01:13:22. Read 54 Times. From : Mynk Lynx To : SYSOP Subj : MOJO RECEIVED I vote NO for MOJO as well.. Lynx p.s. why? because I can't vote yes for someone I don't really like that much. (and I don't care if this or my last vote are public, private or invites! I really don't care at all if they know what I voted or why... I'm just stating what I think. If they don't like it, then USER LOGGED OFF MOVED FROM "THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION" BY Stranger ON 07/30/94 AT 17:59:40 MOVED FROM "The BOg of Eternal Stench" BY HACK MAN ON 07/31/94 AT 21:34:29 Message # 1660. Reply to #1626 Date: 08/02/94. Time: 00:27:01. Read 25 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Lynx/Mojo IV Subj : Nomination RECEIVED You both act way childishly, at least towards each other. Now, who will be the first to act mature? +++Gravebuster #1660. Message # 1661. Reply to #1633 Date: 08/02/94. Time: 00:27:24. Read 21 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Mojo IV Subj : Mysterious Ways RECEIVED I wish I gnew what message that was in response to. I can see the obfuscation, and I would have loved to see if it was completely irrelevant or if it combined part of the message within it. +++Gravebuster Message # 1662. Reply to #1648 Date: 08/02/94. Time: 17:57:10. Read 21 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Mojo IV Subj : A general warning RECEIVED Oh, yuk! You don't have to show us! We'll believe you! Please! Put your slimy DNA back! +++Gravebuster Message # 1663. Reply to #1660 Date: 08/03/94. Time: 07:50:44. Read 21 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Lynx/Mojo IV/Gravebuster Subj : Nomination RECEIVED Pbbbbbt! =>Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- Message # 1664. Reply to #1661 Date: 08/03/94. Time: 07:51:04. Read 20 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Gravebuster Subj : Mysterious Ways RECEIVED That just makes it moreso. =>Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- Message # 1665. Reply to #1662 Date: 08/03/94. Time: 07:51:22. Read 22 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Gravebuster Subj : A general warning RECEIVED Do you know: The common slug has the MOST teeth of any living land mammal? =>Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- Message # 1667. Reply to #1665 Date: 08/03/94. Time: 20:23:59. Read 23 Times. From : Ghost To : Mojo IV Subj : A general warning RECEIVED Then you ought to put more bite into your posts when you express ire. Message # 1668. Reply to #1667 Date: 08/03/94. Time: 21:49:19. Read 23 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Ghost Subj : A general warning RECEIVED I'm not salsa. =>Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- Message # 1669. Reply to #1464 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 02:08:39. Read 25 Times. From : The Music Man To : Tasslehoff Burfoot Subj : GHOST FOR OBFUSCATE I hope I didn't leave you where you wanted to be right when you wanted to be left where you wanted to be left, but then, that's all water under the ecosystem... Message # 1670. Reply to #1465 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 02:09:53. Read 28 Times. From : The Music Man To : Number Two Subj : Reiterate RECEIVED I vote NO. #1670. Message # 1671. Reply to #1469 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 02:10:23. Read 23 Times. From : The Music Man To : HACK MAN Subj : SUB BOARD PLANS RECEIVED Isn't that where us crazies belong? In an asylum? I WANT AN ASYLUM!!!!!!!!!!!! (can I have my own?) Message # 1672. Reply to #1480 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 02:12:02. Read 19 Times. From : The Music Man To : Tasslehoff Burfoot Subj : Could it be? No. Message # 1673. Reply to #1499 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 02:13:45. Read 24 Times. From : The Music Man To : Obfuscates/Number Two Subj : Nomination RECEIVED I vote NO again. Message # 1674. Reply to #1500 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 02:14:00. Read 27 Times. From : The Music Man To : Obfuscates/Stranger Subj : Obfuscates RECEIVED I vote yes. Message # 1675. Reply to #1504 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 02:14:37. Read 48 Times. From : The Music Man To : HACK MAN Subj : ME RECEIVED So be it, but what of non-iterated nominations? A neglected area, SO, I would like to iterate that I nominate Anne Underworld as an obfuscate. Message # 1676. Reply to #1506 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 02:15:40. Read 30 Times. From : The Music Man To : Obfuscates/Lynx/Number Two/Stranger Subj : Nomination RECEIVED Why? Message # 1677. Reply to #1515 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 02:16:44. Read 22 Times. From : The Music Man To : Obfuscates/Lynx/Number Two/Stranger Subj : Nomination RECEIVED I vote yes. Message # 1678. Reply to #1520 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 02:17:47. Read 20 Times. From : The Music Man To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Stranger/Lynx/Ghost Subj : Nomination RECEIVED He wasn't talking about you, I think he was referring to himself. Besides, there are no dead obfuscates, only non-existent ones... Message # 1679. Reply to #1526 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 02:19:08. Read 18 Times. From : The Music Man To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Stranger/Lynx/HACK MAN Subj : Nomination RECEIVED I'll be sure to remember that p.s... Message # 1680. Reply to #1527 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 02:19:27. Read 20 Times. From : The Music Man To : Number Two Subj : Missing Numeral RECEIVED I have seen number two, so I gnow that he at least exists. Well, in my memory at least. Sort of. #1680. Message # 1681. Reply to #1537 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 02:20:27. Read 23 Times. From : The Music Man To : Stranger Subj : Blah RECEIVED I vote no. Message # 1682. Reply to #1562 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 02:22:08. Read 20 Times. From : The Music Man To : HACK MAN Subj : STUFF RECEIVED Agreed. Message # 1683. Reply to #1571 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 02:22:49. Read 19 Times. From : The Music Man To : Gravebuster Subj : STUFF RECEIVED I vote yes Message # 1684. Reply to #1647 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 02:27:39. Read 23 Times. From : The Music Man To : HACK MAN Subj : MOJO RECEIVED Yes, congradulations to mojo... And I would like to oficially taunt lynx in light of his loss... Message # 1685. Reply to #1653 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 02:28:55. Read 20 Times. From : The Music Man To : Mojo IV Subj : Oh Wow! RECEIVED Aye, but it is a bummer that the "d" command didn't work because lynx bogged your post before I even had a chance to receive it. Rather rude to bog a post semt to somebody else... Message # 1686. Reply to #1669 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 08:22:54. Read 23 Times. From : Mojo IV To : The Music Man Subj : GHOST FOR OBFUSCATE Uh... I vote no on measure #13? =>Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- Message # 1687. Reply to #1674 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 08:23:37. Read 20 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Obfuscates/Stranger/The Music Man Subj : Obfuscates RECEIVED A little late, TMM. =>Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- Message # 1688. Reply to #1675 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 08:23:55. Read 24 Times. From : Mojo IV To : The Music Man Subj : ME I second that promotion! <> =>Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- Message # 1689. Reply to #1676 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 08:24:15. Read 19 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Obfuscates/Lynx/Number Two/Stranger/The Music Man Subj : Nomination RECEIVED Cuz its good for you! =>Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- Message # 1690. Reply to #1684 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 08:25:05. Read 21 Times. From : Mojo IV To : The Music Man Subj : MOJO Loss? =>Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- #1690. Message # 1691. Reply to #1663 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 08:27:29. Read 25 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Lynx/Gravebuster/Mojo IV Subj : Nomination RECEIVED Dutifully collected, carefully cultured, exubriantly reproduced and gleefully returned to its source.... Pbbbbbft! Pbbbbbt!Pbbbbbt!Pbbbbbt!Pbbbbbt!Pbbbbbt! Message # 1692. Reply to #1665 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 08:31:01. Read 24 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Mojo IV Subj : A general warning RECEIVED Slugs don't have teeth. They have rasps. +++Gravebuster Message # 1693. Reply to #1660 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 10:25:45. Read 29 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Lynx/Mojo IV/Gravebuster Subj : Nomination RECEIVED YOU WON'T CATCH ME DOING THAT. :) C- - - Message # 1694. Date: 08/04/94. Time: 10:29:25. Read 28 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : TIS THE SEASON OF NEW OBFUSCATES I'LL VOTE YEST ON MIKESTER, ANN OTHERWORLD, AND SHAY PAS. DID I LEAVE ANYBODY OUT? C- - - Message # 1695 -- Private. Message # 1696. Reply to #1676 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 21:58:28. Read 24 Times. From : Stranger To : Obfuscates/Lynx/Number Two/Stranger/The Music Man Subj : Nomination RECEIVED Don't you ever listen? Stranger Message # 1700 -- Private. #1700. Message # 1701. Reply to #1668 Date: 08/04/94. Time: 23:39:09. Read 32 Times. From : Ghost To : Mojo IV Subj : A general warning RECEIVED Better hot than not. Message # 1702 -- Private. Message # 1704 -- Private. Message # 1705 -- Private. Message # 1706. Reply to #1675 Date: 08/05/94. Time: 06:38:21. Read 27 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Music Man Subj : ME Anne Otherworld is not a real user. ANN OTHERWORLD, however, is. I vote wait. +++Gravebuster Message # 1707. Reply to #1684 Date: 08/05/94. Time: 06:38:49. Read 28 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Music Man Subj : MOJO You want to officially taunt Lynx? Well, then, here is the official Application for a Request to Taunt Allomorphs, along with a Statement of Residency and Occupation, with an optional Statement of Education and Race (the third form helps keep the Census Bureau personnel off the streets). After the Application for a Request to Taunt Allomorphs is processed, within about two weeks bureaucratic time, you will receive a Request to Taunt Allomorphs, a seven page form that's similar to an invasive physical examination, along with an Application for a License to Taunt. You won't need the second form if you have already filled one out. After the Request to Taunt Allomorphs is processed, within about a month bureaucratic time, you will receive a Declaration of the Rights and Dignity of Allomorphs, and an Examination of Appropriate Taunts for Allomorphs, along with a Questionnaire on Allomorphic Rights and Taunts. You only need to peruse the first two documents, and then return the questionnaire. After another two months bureaucratic time, you will receive a triplicate of your Certification to Officially Taunt Allomorphs, which must be filled out so the writing or typing is legible through all copies. If you make a mistake, you must send in a Request for a Replacement of the Certification to Officially Taunt Allomorphs, and a new certificate would be sent to you within one week bureaucratic time. After you have perfectly filled out the certificate, you return copies two and three to the Council For Allomorphic Relations, and copy one to the State Department. I suggest you photocopy copy one before you send it. Within two more months bureaucratic time, you will receive your License to Taunt, with a Special Permit to Taunt Allomorphs attached, allowing you to taunt allomorphs for six months real time from the time you first filed your Application for a Request to Taunt Allomorphs. It's all quite simple.... +++Gravebuster --==red tape==-- Comments : PROMOTE ME=1 Message # 1708. Reply to #1691 Date: 08/05/94. Time: 09:55:01. Read 26 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Lynx/Mojo IV/Gravebuster Subj : Nomination RECEIVED Your a FREAK!!! <> <> Message # 1709. Reply to #1694 Date: 08/05/94. Time: 09:55:55. Read 24 Times. From : Mojo IV To : HACK MAN Subj : TIS THE SEASON OF NEW OBFUSCATES RECEIVED My votes? Mikey: Yup Ann: 'Kay Shay: Yay! Message # 1710. Reply to #1701 Date: 08/05/94. Time: 09:56:53. Read 28 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Ghost Subj : A general warning RECEIVED But its better than being wrinkled, I suppose. In days past I'm sure you'd find a reason to add more chunky baco bits to the mix, but at least the general salsa-ness won't be lost, nes Pas? #1710. Message # 1711 -- Private. Message # 1712. Reply to #1710 Date: 08/05/94. Time: 23:21:10. Read 29 Times. From : Ghost To : Mojo IV Subj : A general warning RECEIVED Loch nes, home to syncronized slug swimmers? Nay, Shay Pas has salsa. Message # 1713. Reply to #1684 Date: 08/06/94. Time: 01:16:37. Read 29 Times. From : Lynx To : The Music Man Subj : MOJO Taunt all you want, it only goes to proove many of my many points about you which are continually being created and proven. You are simply a very FAKE person, you are never the same person twice, and I really don't care if you do it on perpose or like it. It makes for a very lousy friend. Not to mention the lack of Trust that can be directed at you. Taunt me, you'll love it, I'll hate it, and nothing of reality will come out of it. I didn't lose anything, quite the contrary, I've gained another huge annoyance. Regardless of what Mojo might say, he has NEVER acted civil towards me. He formed his opinion of me long before we ever met in person. He even used events generated by alternate parties, claiming I was responsible. I have only returned to him what he has given me. You all seem to think he super keen and way changed, but from my point of view he's still the most completely hateful and judgemental person I have ever met, and he has a nasty streak of self-rightiousness. You all can enjoy your newfound friend, and you'll probably never notice the drastic effects it will have on Obfuscation. Hell, you guys don't even notice the current hideous state. You know what's really funny... I'm starting to see the signs of the "friends" only syndrome in the Obfuscates. There was a time when that didn't matter, hell who of you have even met Peggy? I had terrible arguments with her, but I still voted for her to become an obfuscate. Currently, Aside from me, the only people who have any effect on the way the BBS is run and who are Obfuscates (or soon will be) are friends of Stranger or TMM. Go ahead throw all these statements in my face. I don't really care, in fact I look forward to it. What I did, clearing out Mojo's Post and lowering his acces below 10000 was completely legitimate. He was not an OBFUSCATE. He got thru a loophole in the system. Strangers reaction was simply showing that he liked Mojo and disliked me. If someone had told me in advance that there was plans to make him an Obfuscate I wouldn't have done what I did. I might not of liked the decision, but I would have respected Hack Mans wishes and the vote. I find it very frustrating to have to deal with such childish reactions. I've had to deal with them for quite along time (most of it stemming from the lack of respect certain people have for me), and it's equally frustrating to have my generosity, trust, and respect ignored. Lynx/Roy --==OBFUSCATE==-- p.s. It's amazing what people choose to remember and what they choose to forget. Most people remember what most benefits there current situation. Or they let there anger effect there memory. Message # 1714. Date: 08/06/94. Time: 01:44:18. Read 25 Times. From : Lynx To : all Subj : Votes Mikester:yes A.O.:no Shay Pas:no Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 1715. Reply to #1707 Date: 08/06/94. Time: 01:46:28. Read 25 Times. From : Lynx To : Gravebuster Subj : MOJO RECEIVED I guess I better apply for form 43.56a "Request for 'Taunt reciever' License sub-class Allomorphs" Can you refer me to any other red tape I must claw at? Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 1716. Reply to #1712 Date: 08/06/94. Time: 14:45:22. Read 27 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Ghost Subj : A general warning RECEIVED Pas est Shay? Thus, of course, really a normal human, or Common Man. Not High Man, although I dunno, I'm unsure of her sex-life and all. Message # 1718. Reply to #1713 Date: 08/06/94. Time: 14:48:52. Read 22 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Lynx Subj : MOJO RECEIVED I think what I like best about all this is how seriously you take this all, Lynx. I was considering resigning, tell you the truth -- if I'm not wanted, c'est la vie. But, I can live with your resentment. --Mojo IV, Obfuscate Message # 1719. Reply to #1693 Date: 08/07/94. Time: 00:15:24. Read 26 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Lynx/Mojo IV/Gravebuster/HACK MAN Subj : Nomination RECEIVED Ah, that explains quite a number of things, including the matter at hand! HM, GROW UP, WILL YA?!... +++Gravebuster --==or at least move us all to Never Never Land==-- Message # 1720. Reply to #1694 Date: 08/07/94. Time: 00:16:41. Read 23 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : TIS THE SEASON OF NEW OBFUSCATES RECEIVED Yes, you've left anyone out, and personally, I'm glad, because we just can't be letting anyone in here!... +++Gravebuster #1720. Message # 1721. Reply to #1716 Date: 08/07/94. Time: 14:18:55. Read 22 Times. From : Ghost To : Mojo IV Subj : A general warning RECEIVED Shay Past? Give her time, or, are you High, Man? Message # 1722. Reply to #1721 Date: 08/07/94. Time: 16:10:20. Read 21 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Ghost Subj : A general warning RECEIVED Obfuscate of Shay Past, Shay Present, Shay Future. =>Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- Message # 1723. Reply to #1691 Date: 08/07/94. Time: 23:46:17. Read 24 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Lynx/Mojo IV/Gravebuster Subj : Nomination RECEIVED I've got a scimitar! Hold still! My, how you slime!... :) One thing I should mention about that Obfuscatronix file I gave you is this: All that stuff that talks about using "ctrl-/" or "ctrl-[" before the other control commands is out of date. "Ctrl-/" and "ctrl-[" were the on switches for obfuscatronix back in the times before Gizmo got the commands. Now, we just use "Esc X" once in a message, and then we can use the obfuscatronix. If you want to do something, and can't figure it out, just tell us what you're trying to do on this sub, and someone will help you figure it out. But be sure to read the instructions I gave you. +++Gravebuster Message # 1724. Reply to #1715 Date: 08/07/94. Time: 23:46:47. Read 32 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Lynx Subj : MOJO RECEIVED Actually, allomorphs are far more sensible than humans. All you have to do is go to your leader, and tell him that you'll allow humans to taunt you, and he'll remember. Neat, huh? +++Gravebuster Message # 1725. Reply to #1581 Date: 08/10/94. Time: 23:54:43. Read 23 Times. From : Number Two To : Ghost Subj : RECEIVED As if I know what you mean....... really! go on you shower.... Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1726. Reply to #1586 Date: 08/11/94. Time: 00:45:12. Read 22 Times. From : Number Two To : Ghost Subj : RECEIVED I felt that if the black was the surface, then surely coreward must be white. dig and dig and dig all you like, but the black fills in the holes and obscures whatever it covers, be it anything but black, many of us have begun to doubt. If you ever even catch a glimpse of the underneath, you must inform me. you know the ways Message # 1727. Reply to #1591 Date: 08/11/94. Time: 00:48:27. Read 35 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : Mikester For Obfuscate RECEIVED My vote is Picard for positive president of pickering plumbing YES men. Your Pal 2 Message # 1728. Reply to #1670 Date: 08/11/94. Time: 00:55:22. Read 26 Times. From : Number Two To : The Music Man Subj : Reiterate Oh big deal... Its already been pounded into my head that it will never happen. Message # 1729. Reply to #1675 Date: 08/11/94. Time: 00:56:52. Read 32 Times. From : Number Two To : The Music Man Subj : ME I vote No Message # 1730. Reply to #1680 Date: 08/11/94. Time: 00:58:05. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two To : The Music Man Subj : Missing Numeral Yes, but what about Number Two #2 ?? #1730. Message # 1731. Reply to #1713 Date: 08/11/94. Time: 01:02:20. Read 25 Times. From : Number Two To : Lynx Subj : MOJO RECEIVED Wow, although in anger, I found that to be the most well formed post I have ever read from you Roy. I also cannot say that I disagree with you on every aspect, because I don't. There are problems, and although it's hard to put my finger on them you seem to have named a few. I think what you did was wrong (in regards to Mojo's post and access), but after thinking through my own anger at events that I never even saw, just heard about, I think what was done to you was just as bad, if not worse. Mojo is not perfect, but he has changed quite a bit, and regardless if he is hateful, or even self-righteous, the majority of Obfuscates here have found him Obfuscatory and have vote to make him one of us. As I have been reminded more than once, the only criteria for being an Obfuscate is that you Obfuscate and that you call here. He does both. As for the friend's only syndrome, if there are sysmpto symptoms of that, they have always been there. I even believe that a good part of the reason I was made Obfuscate was because I knew you all so well and was over to the Garage almost every friday night. Maybe there is no truth in that. Oh geez, I am not making the sense I wanted to. Lynx, being far away ives you a different perspective than you used to have and getting a new perspective is always enlightening. You are using it, I can see that. Just try to psuh the angst aside, and glide. Oh, BTW, if we all just gavce each other hugs and big kisses we'd probably all feel better. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1732. Reply to #1714 Date: 08/11/94. Time: 01:12:10. Read 31 Times. From : Number Two To : Lynx Subj : Votes RECEIVED why no on Shay Pas ?? Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1733. Reply to #1727 Date: 08/11/94. Time: 09:45:31. Read 28 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Number Two Subj : Mikester For Obfuscate RECEIVED How much is that in fish? <> Message # 1734. Reply to #1729 Date: 08/11/94. Time: 09:46:19. Read 29 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Number Two Subj : ME RECEIVED Could we hear your reasons? <> Message # 1735. Reply to #1731 Date: 08/11/94. Time: 09:47:37. Read 22 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Number Two Subj : MOJO RECEIVED Me? Not perfect??? <> Message # 1736. Reply to #1725 Date: 08/12/94. Time: 00:25:26. Read 23 Times. From : Ghost To : Number Two Subj : RECEIVED When I know what I mean, you will be the first to know. Message # 1737. Reply to #1726 Date: 08/12/94. Time: 00:26:36. Read 21 Times. From : Ghost To : Number Two Subj : RECEIVED I have dived through the rabbit's hole under and through and between. And each time I surface, I think I know what I have seen. But I find that what has happened is each time I forget just a little more. Soon I will have lost it all and remember nothing. Message # 1738. Reply to #1724 Date: 08/12/94. Time: 01:14:32. Read 27 Times. From : Lynx To : Gravebuster Subj : MOJO RECEIVED At least he'll pretend to remember, right? Lynx Message # 1739. Reply to #1731 Date: 08/12/94. Time: 01:16:42. Read 19 Times. From : Lynx To : Number Two Subj : MOJO RECEIVED I haven't hugged anyone in ages... oh well. Anyway, I'm working on the angst. Lynx Message # 1740. Reply to #1732 Date: 08/12/94. Time: 01:17:50. Read 23 Times. From : Lynx To : Number Two Subj : Votes RECEIVED A more accurate answer would be, not yet. Ask me again in a few months. Lynx #1740. Message # 1741. Reply to #1727 Date: 08/12/94. Time: 04:05:48. Read 24 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : Mikester For Obfuscate RECEIVED Uh, I tried to call you, but I got your answering machine. "Picard" means no, and "Q" means yes, but it appears you mean "yes." It's all very confusing and I love it very much. +++Gravebuster Message # 1742. Reply to #1738 Date: 08/13/94. Time: 11:09:07. Read 25 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Lynx Subj : MOJO RECEIVED Yes. Human leaders tend to forget everything after the election. We have much to learn.... +++Gravebuster Message # 1743. Reply to #1734 Date: 08/16/94. Time: 04:54:16. Read 23 Times. From : Number Two To : Mojo IV Subj : ME RECEIVED Maybe it's just the fact that I am not on the board much, but I haven't seen much Obfuscation in her. Humor, intelligence, and wit, YES, but not much Obfuscation. Of course, my vote isn't set in stone, and I can be convinced. Dead 2 Message # 1744. Reply to #1737 Date: 08/16/94. Time: 04:57:29. Read 21 Times. From : Number Two To : Ghost Subj : RECEIVED There's a serene comfort in void. Warm handed oblivion stretching out parchments of implacable Doom, and roasting order over a fire made of the beginning and end of everything. In nothingless lays much more of import, than memory can load or save It's the jumps that count, when you stop jumping you get numb, and oblivion takes your hand because you can't tell she's there. goodnigh--------------------------------------------------------------- Comments : BRAVO!=1 Message # 1745. Reply to #1740 Date: 08/16/94. Time: 05:01:25. Read 19 Times. From : Number Two To : Lynx Subj : Votes RECEIVED that is fair enough and an answer I can comprehend.... Dead 2 Message # 1746. Reply to #1744 Date: 08/16/94. Time: 08:07:04. Read 24 Times. From : Ghost To : Number Two Subj : RECEIVED Eternity's See And the pain remembers for me surrounded, caught safe in light by shores I never asked to see mapping lost time, day into night. One leans into another, over and around, through, all connected, smoothing rough ground. Then I, freed, practice in sleep the long fall I was promised through joys endless and deep, becoming the dreamer eternity kissed. Ghost. Message # 1747. Date: 08/16/94. Time: 13:59:04. Read 31 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : WELCOME TO MIKESTER! LET'S ALL WELCOME MIKESTER THE NEWEST OBFUSCATE. WITH A UNANIMOUS 6 YES VOTES I SEE NO REASON TO DRAG THINGS ON FURTHER. HIP HIP HOO-DOINK! C- - - Message # 1748. Date: 08/17/94. Time: 00:16:20. Read 31 Times. From : Stranger To : Mikester Subj : Ah, Esteemed BAronet RECEIVED I had a feeling it wouldn't be long...... my condolences on you becoming an Obfuscate. Good luck! Stranger (Do we get to tell him that the Obfuscates are actually an evil force working towards world domination in an Illuminati-like barrage of mind- control now?) Message # 1749. Reply to #1748 Date: 08/17/94. Time: 00:19:21. Read 25 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : Ah, Esteemed BAronet RECEIVED Yes, and I think we should tell him that we are the source of all POgs. He deserves to know at least that. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1750. Reply to #1746 Date: 08/17/94. Time: 00:20:28. Read 21 Times. From : Number Two To : Ghost Subj : RECEIVED I like dreaming hate awakening bye #1750. Message # 1751. Date: 08/17/94. Time: 00:23:05. Read 23 Times. From : Number Two To : Mikester Subj : Damn it all RECEIVED I feel like crying....... Your Pal 2 Message # 1752. Date: 08/17/94. Time: 00:31:15. Read 23 Times. From : Mikester To : Nanny and/or the Professor Subj : Uh, hey. Who are you people? Why am I here? Why can't everyone just leave me alone? --M. (Wow, cool. Thanks, guys, gals, and ghosts.) Message # 1753. Reply to #1751 Date: 08/17/94. Time: 00:32:44. Read 24 Times. From : Mikester To : Number Two Subj : Damn it all RECEIVED Cry away, O Two, and your tears will be absorbed by your vast beard. How about a big hug? --M. Message # 1754. Reply to #1747 Date: 08/17/94. Time: 00:34:27. Read 22 Times. From : Mikester To : HACK MAN Subj : WELCOME TO MIKESTER! RECEIVED Hey, cool. Am I allowed to use the word "obfuscate" freely in my posts, then? DEATH TO ENCYCLOPEDIA BROWN, THE DREAD ANTI-OBFUSCATE! Uh, sorry about that. --M. Message # 1755. Reply to #1753 Date: 08/17/94. Time: 00:35:20. Read 22 Times. From : Number Two To : Mikester Subj : Damn it all RECEIVED I think I'll collect nextime I am in the shop..... :} Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1756. Date: 08/17/94. Time: 00:39:01. Read 27 Times. From : Mikester To : All Subj : Nomination I nominate Choleric Wastrel for Obfuscate. --M. Message # 1757. Date: 08/17/94. Time: 00:51:01. Read 24 Times. From : Mikester To : All Subj : Spinning of wheels, grinding of teeth My confession: Now that I'm here, I immediately went back to see what everybody was saying about me when I wasn't looking. My ego balloons. Whoosh! --M. Message # 1758. Reply to #1756 Date: 08/17/94. Time: 00:50:35. Read 22 Times. From : Number Two To : Mikester Subj : Nomination RECEIVED I vote Qicard Your Pal 2 Message # 1759. Reply to #1748 Date: 08/17/94. Time: 08:30:51. Read 19 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : Ah, Esteemed BAronet RECEIVED NO SILLY. NOT UNTIL NEXT CENTURY. C- - - Message # 1760. Reply to #1754 Date: 08/17/94. Time: 08:32:09. Read 25 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Mikester Subj : WELCOME TO MIKESTER! RECEIVED YES. YOU ALSO HAVE THE DIVINE LEFT TO USE GN INSTEAD OF THE LETTER K WHENEVER YOU WANT TO. (YOU WERE PROBABLY ALREADY DOING THAT, BUT NOW IT'S SEMI- OFFICIAL). C- - - #1760. Message # 1761. Reply to #1758 Date: 08/17/94. Time: 08:33:43. Read 19 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Number Two Subj : Nomination RECEIVED I VOTE PEEW. C- - - Message # 1762. Date: 08/17/94. Time: 09:03:17. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : GHOST FROM THE PAST I'D LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT I HAVE DETERMINED THAT "THE NECROMANCER" IS INDEED A REAL PERSON AKA "STAINLESS STEEL RAT" AN OBFUSCATE OF OLD AND HAS BEEN GIVEN THE PROPER ACCESS. I DON'T GNOW HOW OFTEN HE WILL BE ABLE TO CALL, OR WHERE HE'S CALLING FROM AT THIS POINT, BUT HE'S WELCOME TO. C- - - Message # 1763. Reply to #1760 Date: 08/17/94. Time: 10:22:48. Read 20 Times. From : Mikester To : HACK MAN Subj : WELCOME TO MIKESTER! RECEIVED Oops, sorry. I'd been using "gn" since I started calling here, in some pathetically desperate attempt to fit in. --M. Message # 1764. Reply to #1747 Date: 08/17/94. Time: 10:39:13. Read 18 Times. From : Mojo IV To : HACK MAN Subj : WELCOME TO MIKESTER! RECEIVED Am I the Penultimate Obfuscate, then>? WELCOME MIKEY!!!! Message # 1765. Reply to #1748 Date: 08/17/94. Time: 10:39:47. Read 17 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Stranger Subj : Ah, Esteemed BAronet RECEIVED No. Don't. It'll spoil the suspense. Message # 1766. Reply to #1749 Date: 08/17/94. Time: 10:40:07. Read 18 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Number Two Subj : Ah, Esteemed BAronet RECEIVED But we, instead, use them as brain surgery-cannon deflection devices. Message # 1767. Reply to #1752 Date: 08/17/94. Time: 10:40:50. Read 16 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Nanny and/or the Professor/Mikester Subj : Uh, hey. RECEIVED Don't thank us. This isn't a blessing. Message # 1768. Reply to #1754 Date: 08/17/94. Time: 10:41:14. Read 17 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Mikester Subj : WELCOME TO MIKESTER! RECEIVED Pray to Glen Danzig! Not that he's god or anything... just pray to him. Eventually, if he gets enough worshippers, his career might come back from hell. Message # 1769. Reply to #1756 Date: 08/17/94. Time: 10:41:59. Read 18 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Mikester Subj : Nomination RECEIVED I nominate The Hanged Man! Message # 1770. Reply to #1757 Date: 08/17/94. Time: 10:42:15. Read 17 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Mikester Subj : Spinning of wheels, grinding of teeth RECEIVED You, too, huh? #1770. Message # 1771. Date: 08/17/94. Time: 11:06:48. Read 22 Times. From : Mikester To : All Subj : 55 May I have 55? 55? Thank you. --the Mikester -=55=- Message # 1772. Reply to #1764 Date: 08/17/94. Time: 14:00:53. Read 21 Times. From : Stranger To : Mojo IV Subj : WELCOME TO MIKESTER! RECEIVED Yep, you have my old title, "Penultimate Obfuscate" now. And Mikester is the ultimate Obfuscate. Stranger Message # 1773. Reply to #1771 Date: 08/17/94. Time: 16:19:45. Read 19 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Mikester Subj : 55 RECEIVED SURE, WHY NOT. BUT TAKE GOOD CARE OF IT. C- - - Message # 1774. Reply to #1773 Date: 08/17/94. Time: 16:50:22. Read 20 Times. From : Mikester To : HACK MAN Subj : 55 RECEIVED Tank oo. (I was delving deep into the Temple archives, you see, and I came across a post about everybody having a certain number for commenting purposes. I decided mine should be 55 -- I preferred 555, but that seems excessive.) It's just part of my ongoing quest to drag you all down into my own personal SQuishy BOg. No offense. --M. Message # 1775. Reply to #1772 Date: 08/18/94. Time: 10:12:10. Read 21 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Stranger Subj : WELCOME TO MIKESTER! RECEIVED Good. And BBQ sauce, please? =>Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- Message # 1776. Reply to #1774 Date: 08/18/94. Time: 10:12:34. Read 21 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Mikester Subj : 55 RECEIVED Why not? Mines 9000 =>Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- Message # 1779. Reply to #1760 Date: 08/20/94. Time: 01:41:11. Read 20 Times. From : Number Two To : HACK MAN Subj : WELCOME TO MIKESTER! RECEIVED as official as my refusal to use it Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1780. Date: 08/20/94. Time: 23:57:03. Read 25 Times. From : Lynx To : ALL Subj : Gnomubet Any Interest in a program to encode/decode text files into/outof the gnomubet set? I figure decoding will be trivial, but encoding will probably require the user to "help". I was thinking that the program could prompt the user with questions as it encoded whenever it couldn't figure out what to use. it would have the gnomubet text from the obfuscate bulletins on screen and then show the word it doesn't know how to deal with (at least the part is can't figure) and ask the user for the code to use giving a list of potential codes. I could probably have it also come with a dictionary, and also expand the dictionary on the fly. Anyway, I am asking this because there may be some oposition to doing this because takes away from those who did/do it manually. I would of course only allow Obfuscates to have it. (ie not upload for mass consumtion). So, what do you think? Lynx Comments : WAY!=1 #1780. Message # 1781. Reply to #1780 Date: 08/21/94. Time: 00:45:04. Read 16 Times. From : Stranger To : Lynx Subj : Gnomubet RECEIVED Picard. Stranger (Wait, which one is picard again? Nevermind, how about Guinan.) Message # 1782. Reply to #1780 Date: 08/21/94. Time: 09:50:32. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Lynx Subj : Gnomubet RECEIVED I DUNT CARE. C- - - Message # 1783. Date: 08/21/94. Time: 09:51:03. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : BY THE WAY IT LOOKS LIKE LYNX ALREADY NOTICED, BUT I GOT THE OBFUSCATRONIX CODES BACK WHERE THEY BELONG SO THEY ARE ACCESSABLE FROM THE MENU. SOMEHOW THOSE FILES HAD ENDED UP IN THE TEXT DOWNLOAD SECTION WHERE ANYBODY COULD DOWNLOAD THEM. I HAVEN'T CHECKED TO SEE IF ANYBODY DID. C- - - Message # 1784. Reply to #1743 Date: 08/22/94. Time: 05:51:39. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Number Two Subj : ME RECEIVED Well, here's a sampling of the latest posts by Shay Pas on the Tavern. Some of the posts have only one subtle example of obfuscating (such as the post where she explains how to use the features of the BBS, only to state in the last step that one should stop reading the post and learn how to use the BBS themselves). Other posts, like the last one, is completely off the wall. Give these posts some of your consideration, since you're such a considerate person, and consider her considerable style. ............................................................................ Message # 48644. Reply to #48598 Date: 08/06/94. Time: 12:59:59. Read 21 Times. From : Shay Pas To : Oxnardus Subj : Um... RECEIVED no!! you can't do that! you haven't been in Bakersfield long enough to be assim---there is only one Borg persona...the collecti---once fully assim- alted, there no turni---what will people nickname you, Oxy? Bakey?--- you want the truth? Can you *handle* the truth? ...Bakersfieldus sucks! Oxnardus brings to life the city name one reporter called dorky which i find untrue...it's just flat). Shay Pas (Los Angelesus...San Dieogus...Venturaus...Camarillous... Bakersfieldus...none seem quite right...Camarillous sounds like a symptom of some bad foot disease) Message # 48227. Reply to #47942 Date: 08/01/94. Time: 19:30:39. Read 20 Times. From : Shay Pas To : Oxnardus Subj : RECEIVED sorta yeah... then i ran off to Texas and came back at 2 this morning. and i feel rather blah despite the fact that my new rainbow imitation slinky isn't messed up, yet which a quite a triumph for a sapien... Shay Pas (i might tell some stuff abou Texas, but it's summer and i'm lazy oh, and here's that "t" i forgot. heck, i even have the fruit kind of mini-mallows and i still feel blah! the clock is acting funny which makes me suspect that something weird and twilight- zoney happened while i was away and it is trying to tell me what. well, texas was o.k., but i only got to play right field for one of the five games we played. didn't touch the softball defensively 'cause it's a nice softball and didn't make fun of me like the other ones do. oh yeah, i went to Texas to play softball. first time a California team has competed there. is rather funny.) Message # 46944. Reply to #46939 Date: 07/19/94. Time: 22:53:15. Read 31 Times. From : Shay Pas To : jackie ho Subj : a change RECEIVED bwhahaha! you hath summoned me by your lolling subconscious! Neil! Hog not the tea! i have been summoned by the lady jackie and would care to sip amongst you, Tori, Murphy and of course the Lady Jackie. "WhAT AbOut mEE?" "Yes, you, too..." Shay Pas ("AnD My DogGiE?") Message # 46898. Reply to #44862 Date: 07/18/94. Time: 23:24:09. Read 26 Times. From : Shay Pas To : Gravebuster Subj : Doink! RECEIVED well, i admit that i haven't been all that religious in my catsup (as the Imagi have a policy of not freely distributing condiments), but i've mustard some more energy to read the numberous posts. i survived a furious bout of TMM and now have come upon your msg which is now serving as a rest stop 'cause it's a nifty number and it has lots of toilet paper... Shay Pas (4 + 4 = 8 = 6 + 2 "...well, isn't that special?") Message # 46517. Date: 07/16/94. Time: 02:18:11. Read 18 Times. From : Shay Pas To : umber Two Subj : quelle coincidance que tu etais ne un jour avant de la Retrait... RECEIVED i don't feel like singing, so... Happy Birthday, Doc. Shay Pas (those trop lazy/concerned with disk space to post the same may wish to Comment a "Way" so that NUmber Two can always come back to this msg and see the bezillions of "WAY!"s and reclaim that warm and SQushy feeling) Comments : WAY!=3 Message # 46513. Reply to #46465 Date: 07/16/94. Time: 02:03:17. Read 18 Times. From : Shay Pas To : Wintermute Subj : RECEIVED yes...i'm afraid that those we regard as musical genii are being co-erced by evil... Shay Pas (in "Under the Pink" liners, Ms. Amos, says: "Thanks to Apple Computers it's Bitchin what these things can do." [i, for one, think Apple sends those things out to artists so they will put secret msgs on their discs so that the Apple ads can only be heard when the disc is played backwards...]) Message # 46031. Repy to #46000 Date: 07/11/94. Time: 12:20:35. Read 20 Times. From : Shay Pas To : Choleric Wastrel Subj : These posts, all these posts RECEIVED *one* more time...Shay Pas is a "she". you can remember it like: "Shhhay = shhhee," ok? well, 'nyways, yes, there gizillions of msgs left to read. i'm reading the current ones, making note of where i left off with the "old" ones in order to stay alive. Geez! Yesterday i called in the mornng and read lots and lots of old msgs (in all the subs) and some of the current ones. i call back later in the day and find there are over 100 new msgs in the Tavern! oy. well, it's nice to meet some of you newer people. nifty handles y'all've. new things to look up in the dictionnary... Shay Pas (wastrel [way' strehl] n. 1. one who wastes 2. a good-for-nothing aleric [uh lair ik] adj 1. in the manner of an aler Custos [Koo stoh, Kuh stohs], Miss Tasty [mihss tay stee], Jackie Ho [jak ee hoh, jak ee oh] syn. for crazy housemates) Message # 43540. Reply to #43503 Date: 06/24/94. Time: 20:10:35. Read 24 Times. From : Shay Pas To : jackie ho Subj : what if i didn't have a subject? huh? HUH? RECEIVED i've got some advice: 1. get someone 'round here to explain how to temporarily disable call waiting. (Tellura: don't you have it? well, explain it to the lady!) 2. when you want to reply to a msg, press the "a" key after reading it. this puts your msg in a "thread" so when someone wants to gnow what you where replying to (like Ken asked why you said "aren't the women the ones who are supposed to suck?"), they can just press "d" to see the msg you replied to. you can do that, too. so if you press "d" after reading this msg, you will see your post about yer friend having "man problems". 3. stop reading this message and learn to do this stuff yerself! a question mark gets you helpful info in cyberspace. you will see a list of commands if you make a "?" at the prompt that tells you what sub you are on (if you say "There are more message boards?" i will choke you). Shay Pas (i find yours and Miss T's posts quite entertaining. do you two, like, work for Sassy? :] <--vacuous grin) Message # 43316. Reply to #43293 Date: 06/22/94. Time: 22:30:16. Read 21 Times. From : Shay Pas To : Psycho Subj : Messages... RECEIVED Four sharp, dirt-crusted tines screamed towards my face. I yelled, dis- agreeing with the action of the large farming fork thingie. The person holding the fork jumped and the fork ceased its descent. She reached towards my head and quickly Pop!ped something out. I lifted my hands to my face, probing my sockets... "Betta' watch where y'aim them phalanges," she warned in a Faux-Southern accent. "Yer likely ta poke yer eyes out." I grumbled and rightened myself. She turned her attention back to the thing that was popped from my head, examining its surface and sounds it made when she brought it to her ear. Finally, she shook it violently. My head began spinning and my perspective spun with--us. We spun and fumbled until our head throbbed, yet we continued shaking the thing. We screamed in protest then suddenly--Farmer Shay stopped shaking the thing and Psycho slowly collected his...Psychotic self. The perspective of that paticular sector of cyberspace returned to its third-person omniscience and found Shay decked in stereotypical farmer wear: large OshKoshBeGosh denim overalls, crusted workboots, red bandana tied loosely around her neck and a strawhat over her ponytail. She leaned against a pitchfork and spoke slowly: "Well, Mister Seee-eye-co, this here sector ain't cyberspace wasteland It's farmland, I say! Right now, it's mah turn ta work on these here crops. Ideas need plantin', harvestin' and someone'a talk to. Luckily, there ain't much weedin'a be done here, so work is pretty nice, so you just git on that there second node and start yer work! Here's a big juicy post fer you ta try." She polished the message on her pant leg then handed it to Psycho. He tried a nibble, cautiously. "Hrmpbpgml--It's a bit sour..." Farmer Shay laughed wickedly. "Well, if you don't like it, make yers not sour." An Alt-007 sounded. Shay gathered the tools nd searched the horizon. "Hm, that welcome wagon' late..." Shay Pas/Psifi ("Mr. Snob"'s post brought some good/vile things after all...) ............................................................................. +++Gravebuster Message # 1785. Reply to #1747 Date: 08/22/94. Time: 05:54:44. Read 24 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : WELCOME TO MIKESTER! RECEIVED Mikester? Mikester?! Oh, man! There goes the neighborhood! Who voted Mikester for Obfuscate? Forget that, I want to gnow who championed Mikester for Obfuscate! Who would be stupid enough to hoodwink all of you into leting that SQuishy excuse of a comic book salesclerk into this place? What? Me? I did it? Oh, I did do it, didn't I? Are you sure? Well, okay, but I'm only going to let myself get away with this just this once. Welcome, Mikester! +++Gravebuster Message # 1786. Reply to #1752 Date: 08/22/94. Time: 05:55:12. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Nanny and/or the Professor/Mikester Subj : Uh, hey. RECEIVED "The Nanny and the Professor?" That milquetoast Americanization of "Mary Poppins?" How SQuishy!!!! By the way, I saw the actress who played Nanny (can't remember her name (I bet you gnow it)) star in a movie with Jack Lemmon ("Avanti"?) where she's naked in one scene, laying next to Lemmon on a buoy. I laughed at the irony. +++Gravebuster Message # 1787. Reply to #1756 Date: 08/22/94. Time: 05:55:37. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Mikester Subj : Nomination RECEIVED I vote no. I nominate Choleric Wastrel for obliterate.... +++Gravebuster Message # 1788. Reply to #1785 Date: 08/22/94. Time: 10:00:42. Read 20 Times. From : Mikester To : Gravebuster Subj : WELCOME TO MIKESTER! RECEIVED I got in on a fluke. Actually, a lot of flukes; just one fluke couldn't bear my weight. Trematodes are not suited for carrying humans. --M. Message # 1789. Reply to #1784 Date: 08/22/94. Time: 10:07:29. Read 20 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : Gravebuster Subj : ME RECEIVED I am satified at to her obfuscability, but I think a little more time is needed in case its just her diet or something... =>Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- Message # 1790. Reply to #1785 Date: 08/22/94. Time: 10:08:10. Read 25 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : Gravebuster Subj : WELCOME TO MIKESTER! RECEIVED That would be me. =>Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- #1790. Message # 1791. Reply to #1786 Date: 08/22/94. Time: 10:08:26. Read 17 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : Nanny and/or the Professor/Mikester/Gravebuster Subj : Uh, hey. RECEIVED Look you, I've got greesy hair and I'm not afraid to use it! IF you'd sit down I'm sure were could find you a tuba you old man losing thing with two eyes and furry legs! =>Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- Message # 1792. Reply to #1787 Date: 08/22/94. Time: 10:09:20. Read 18 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : Gravebuster Subj : Nomination RECEIVED I gnominate myself for disrespect. =>Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- Message # 1793. Reply to #1788 Date: 08/22/94. Time: 10:09:48. Read 17 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : Mikester Subj : WELCOME TO MIKESTER! RECEIVED Liver... Liver... Liver... Liver... Liver... =>Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- Message # 1794. Reply to #1780 Date: 08/23/94. Time: 07:16:24. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Lynx Subj : Gnomubet RECEIVED I think it's an incredible use of technology for a totally futile purpose. In other words, I think it's a great idea. I don't understand why HACK MAN doesn't care, though. Hey, HACK MAN, why don't you care if Lynx makes a program available for writing in Gnomubet? It's a good time to get into that stuff. And what's even better, you don't have to do a thing to make it happen! +++Gravebuster --==appealing to your laziness and craziness==-- Message # 1795. Reply to #1788 Date: 08/23/94. Time: 07:39:20. Read 16 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Mikester Subj : WELCOME TO MIKESTER! RECEIVED And they went SQuish! +++Gravebuster Message # 1796. Reply to #1789 Date: 08/23/94. Time: 07:39:43. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Hanged Man Subj : ME RECEIVED That's a good response. +++Gravebuster Message # 1797. Reply to #1790 Date: 08/23/94. Time: 07:40:12. Read 22 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Hanged Man Subj : WELCOME TO MIKESTER! RECEIVED Nopey. +++Gravebuster --==no noose is good noose?==-- Message # 1798. Reply to #1791 Date: 08/23/94. Time: 07:41:01. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Nanny and/or the Professor/Mikester/Gravebuster/The Hanged Man Subj : Uh, hey. RECEIVED Oh, a tuba?! Really?! Gimme here. Now open wide. Unngghh! Unngghh! Open your mouth a little wider, the tuba's almost in! Unngghh! Come on, The Hanged Man, the bell of the tuba is bigger than that! Unngghh! There! Whew! That was great. I love tubas, especially when it comes to finding places to put them away. Well, THM, would you like a tuba toothpaste to go with your internal tuba?... +++Gravebuster --==hey THM, could you play us some John Philip Sousa?==-- Comments : ZZZZZZZ=1 Message # 1799. Reply to #1792 Date: 08/23/94. Time: 07:43:24. Read 17 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Hanged Man Subj : Nomination RECEIVED Well, congratulate yourself, then, because you won by a landslide. In fact, here it comes now. Just stand there and wait.... +++Gravebuster --==...how was I supposed to gnow it was rock salt?...==-- Message # 1801. Reply to #1794 Date: 08/23/94. Time: 08:10:01. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Gnomubet RECEIVED I CAN'T TELL YOU WHY I DON'T CARE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE TELLING. BESIDES, I DON'T CARE WHY I DON'T CARE. ALSO, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO THINK OF A REASON WHY I DON'T CARE, BECAUSE I DON'T CARE ENOUGH TO DO THAT. C- - - P.S. OK, I ADMIT IT! I LIED! I CARE ABOUT EVERYTHING! DID YOU HEAR ME? I'M A CAREAHOLIC. Message # 1802. Reply to #1798 Date: 08/23/94. Time: 12:00:28. Read 19 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : Nanny and/or the Professor/Mikester/The Hanged Man/Gravebuster Subj : Uh, hey. RECEIVED My friends calls me The. Message # 1803. Date: 08/23/94. Time: 23:41:43. Read 25 Times. From : Lynx To : all Subj : Amazing Events It's amazing how what you want in your sub-consious(sp?) mind manages to make itself happen before your very eyes without you even realizing it's happening until after it's done. It's also cool to realize that you had a hand in helping your sub-consious mind achieve it's goal while you were trying to achieve a completely different goal with your actions. It's also amazing to see a master manipulator be manipulated while he himself is attempting to manipulate. Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- p.s. Take a step back, Take a deep breath, and then look at the big picture. You'll often be surprised at what you see. It's a beautiful picture today. Message # 1804. Reply to #1803 Date: 08/24/94. Time: 20:58:33. Read 20 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : Lynx Subj : Amazing Events RECEIVED Lynx: Save your smirking for those who care. Message # 1805. Reply to #1804 Date: 08/25/94. Time: 00:48:51. Read 22 Times. From : Lynx To : The Hanged Man Subj : Amazing Events RECEIVED I did. Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 1806. Date: 08/26/94. Time: 20:24:25. Read 26 Times. From : Number Two To : Obfuscates Subj : Off color question Just waht is Obfuscation, and how do you know it when you see it? Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1807. Reply to #1806 Date: 08/26/94. Time: 22:55:37. Read 23 Times. From : Mikester To : Obfuscates/Number Two Subj : Off color question RECEIVED I can not reply to that; I am a lemur today. --M. Message # 1808. Reply to #1806 Date: 08/27/94. Time: 01:11:50. Read 20 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : Obfuscates/Number Two Subj : Off color question RECEIVED You gnow it when you smell it. Message # 1809. Reply to #1807 Date: 08/27/94. Time: 01:12:10. Read 25 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Mikester Subj : Off color question RECEIVED I can not reply to that: I'm a leper today. Message # 1810. Reply to #1801 Date: 08/27/94. Time: 08:19:35. Read 21 Times. From : Gravebuster To : HACK MAN Subj : Gnomubet RECEIVED It's about time that you've admitted your careaholism. Admitting you have a problem goes halfway to solving it. Now that you've admitted that you care about everything, you should seek help. CareUnit offers inhouse services for you and people like you and me and Hillary Clinton and everyone else, for that matter, to help us resolve our addictions until our insurance runs out, which brings up another thing. I really would like to see our insurance run out--out the door, down the street, with a mob in close pursuit with a bucket of tar, a bag of feathers and a rail. But that is only wishful thinking, and I'm sure you don't care, even though you care for everything, which is actually quite comforting. +++Gravebuster #1810. Message # 1811. Reply to #1802 Date: 08/27/94. Time: 08:20:08. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Nanny and/or the Professor/Mikester/Gravebuster/The Hanged Man Subj : Uh, hey. RECEIVED That could make for a confusing alibi. "All right, who did it?" "It was The." "The? The who?!" "No, they're a rock band...." +++Gravebuster Message # 1812. Reply to #1803 Date: 08/27/94. Time: 08:20:31. Read 18 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Lynx Subj : Amazing Events RECEIVED I don't recall that I've ever experienced that. +++Gravebuster Message # 1813. Reply to #1806 Date: 08/27/94. Time: 10:12:26. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Obfuscates/Number Two Subj : Off color question RECEIVED SOMETIMES YOU DON'T GNOW IT UNTIL IT BITES YOU IN THE ASS. C- - - Message # 1814. Reply to #1809 Date: 08/27/94. Time: 10:12:59. Read 26 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Mikester/The Hanged Man Subj : Off color question RECEIVED I CANNOT REPLY TO THAT I AM A LION TODAY. C- - - Message # 1815. Reply to #1810 Date: 08/27/94. Time: 10:13:47. Read 22 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Gravebuster Subj : Gnomubet RECEIVED I DON'T CARE TO REPLY TO THAT. :) C- - - Comments : HAHAHA=1 Message # 1816. Reply to #1812 Date: 08/27/94. Time: 16:25:19. Read 18 Times. From : Lynx To : Gravebuster Subj : Amazing Events RECEIVED You're bummin' dude! Lynx Message # 1817. Date: 08/27/94. Time: 18:39:21. Read 23 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : all Subj : Take it... Does Necromancer have access here or is it all an elaborate ruse? Message # 1818. Date: 08/27/94. Time: 19:42:28. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : Nonfuscates Subj : Obfuscation It's as I thought......... Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1819. Reply to #1817 Date: 08/28/94. Time: 18:17:09. Read 20 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Hanged Man Subj : Take it... RECEIVED YES HE DOES HAVE ACCESS HERE. AS TO WETHER IT'S ALL AN ELABORATE RUSE, I DUNNO. I'M STILL TRYING TO GET ON THE INSIDE. C- - - Message # 1820. Reply to #1819 Date: 08/28/94. Time: 22:25:40. Read 22 Times. From : Mikester To : HACK MAN Subj : Take it... RECEIVED What if there is some kind of access level that is so high not even HACK MAN gnows about it? What if Hackintosh is inducting users into some other inner circle on the Retreat, in preparation for a coming rebellion? How would we gnow? --M. #1820. Message # 1821. Reply to #1820 Date: 08/29/94. Time: 01:06:23. Read 19 Times. From : Number Two To : Mikester Subj : Take it... RECEIVED you wouldn't......so keep looking up Nuclear Two Message # 1822. Reply to #1820 Date: 08/29/94. Time: 08:33:21. Read 19 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Mikester Subj : Take it... RECEIVED SOME FOOLISH ONES THINK THAT THEY CONTROL THEIR COMPUTER WHEN IT'S ACTUALLY THE OTHER WAY AROUND. C- - - Comments : WAY!=1 Message # 1823. Date: 08/30/94. Time: 08:02:34. Read 20 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : FACT OF LIFE THE COSMIC BANANA IS YELLOW. C- - - Comments : WAY!=1 Message # 1824. Reply to #1823 Date: 08/30/94. Time: 10:23:27. Read 18 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : HACK MAN Subj : FACT OF LIFE RECEIVED The cosmic banana grew from a cosmic banana plant resting over a buried stash of triple potency Acid... <> =>Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- Message # 1825. Date: 08/30/94. Time: 10:24:58. Read 19 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : all Subj : My new handle? Why, you ask, did I change my handle? Well, I thought ALL obfuscates had to end their names with MAN, of course! I mean, there's Lord Cirdan Man, and Lex Luthor Man, and Gravebuster Man, and Lynx Man, and Cornmeal Man, and Arwen Undomial Man.... So, I'm just following the trend. >Mojo IV<= SQuishy BOgSLug -=- OBFUSCATE -=- Message # 1826. Reply to #1825 Date: 08/30/94. Time: 23:49:54. Read 20 Times. From : Mikester To : The Hanged Man Subj : My new handle? RECEIVED "Mikester Man." Sorry. That reminds me of work. I won't do it. --M. Message # 1827. Reply to #1823 Date: 08/30/94. Time: 23:50:40. Read 20 Times. From : Mikester To : HACK MAN Subj : FACT OF LIFE RECEIVED The Cosmic Banana is peeled, and we all live upon the giant Dole sticker attached to the multiversal refrigerator. --M. Message # 1828. Reply to #1827 Date: 08/31/94. Time: 08:13:52. Read 20 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Mikester Subj : FACT OF LIFE RECEIVED AND HERE COMES THE 900FT CLEANING LADY WITH THE COSMIC SPONGE! C- - - Message # 1829. Reply to #1806 Date: 08/31/94. Time: 19:52:27. Read 20 Times. From : Gravebuster To : Obfuscates/Number Two Subj : Off color question RECEIVED I think that sometimes it's when I have said what I wanted to say, but I didn't say what I wanted to say as well as I could have said it, and one could say I didn't say what I wanted to say very well at all, and I would probably be the one who would say that, but anyway, after I said what I wanted to say, to find that the other person misunderstood what I said, or didn't understand what I said, or even better, gives me that puzzled look that makes me want to lay all the pieces down on a table and spend an evening finding all the border pieces so someone else can fill in the middle. +++Gravebuster Comments : BRAVO!=1 Message # 1830. Reply to #1828 Date: 09/01/94. Time: 04:08:52. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two To : HACK MAN Subj : FACT OF LIFE RECEIVED does she date MC 900 ft Jesus ?? Be Seeing You ?? ('cause he's a wacky guy) #1830. Message # 1831. Reply to #1826 Date: 09/01/94. Time: 09:43:43. Read 19 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : Mikester Subj : My new handle? RECEIVED Chowderpuss Man, Chowderpuss Man... Message # 1832. Reply to #1544 Date: 09/01/94. Time: 22:48:18. Read 21 Times. From : Mikester To : Obfuscates/Stranger/Gravebuster Subj : Uh RECEIVED So that's what you were doing. I thought you were just being...you gnow...friendly. --M. Message # 1833. Reply to #1571 Date: 09/01/94. Time: 22:51:37. Read 16 Times. From : Mikester To : Gravebuster Subj : STUFF RECEIVED I vote ye...oh, uh, never mind. --M. Message # 1834. Reply to #1647 Date: 09/01/94. Time: 22:55:18. Read 17 Times. From : Mikester To : HACK MAN Subj : MOJO RECEIVED That was sort of my goal in Doing Something Weird...even after I gained access to that Weird Place of Ghost's, I would go back and Do Something Weird some more in a pathetic attempt at achieving Obfuscation the slightly unfair way. It's a sad story, and would never make it into Reader's Digest. --M. Message # 1835. Date: 09/01/94. Time: 23:07:03. Read 28 Times. From : Mikester To : All Subj : A silly problem Okay, being an Obfuscate is great and all, but I am really bummed by the fact that I can't center my handle perfectly over the word "Obfuscate." Mikester =-OBFUSCATE-= the Mikester =-OBFUSCATE-= See? Blah. Oh, wait, how about the Mikester =-OBFUSCATED-= Hm...doesn't do it for me. Never mind. I'll stop wasting your time now. --M. --O. Comments : HAHAHA=1 Message # 1836. Reply to #1835 Date: 09/02/94. Time: 00:37:57. Read 18 Times. From : Stranger To : Mikester Subj : A silly problem RECEIVED I have that same problem. Let's quit the Obfuscates and form our own elitist self-congratulation buddy group. *Stranger -=Obfuscate=- Message # 1837. Reply to #1830 Date: 09/02/94. Time: 08:32:02. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Number Two Subj : FACT OF LIFE RECEIVED THEY ARE BOTH PART OF THE 900FT TRINITY. C- - - Message # 1838. Reply to #1835 Date: 09/02/94. Time: 08:33:07. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Mikester Subj : A silly problem RECEIVED TRY PUTTING A PUNCTUATION MARK AFTER YOUR HANDLE. MARK MAY CHANGE ACCORDING TO MOOD. C- - - Message # 1839. Reply to #1838 Date: 09/02/94. Time: 19:55:45. Read 15 Times. From : Mikester To : HACK MAN Subj : A silly problem RECEIVED Hm. Not a bad idea. the Mikester? =-OBFUSCATE-= Although I may stick with --M. --O. as that, to me, is a tad more obfuscated. --M. Message # 1840. Reply to #1836 Date: 09/02/94. Time: 19:57:28. Read 17 Times. From : Mikester To : Stranger Subj : A silly problem RECEIVED If I put a * by my name, I'll keep looking to the bottom of the page for the footnote. --M. #1840. Message # 1841. Reply to #1839 Date: 09/03/94. Time: 16:56:33. Read 18 Times. From : Ghost To : Mikester Subj : A silly problem RECEIVED It does leave us wanting mo'. Message # 1842. Date: 09/05/94. Time: 00:59:39. Read 19 Times. From : Lynx To : all Subj : Something Sometimes Reality isn't what you think People living their lives right on the brink Perhaps all I really want is a drink? In the back of my mind is the back of my mind, and it's not very pretty, which makes it good that it's in the back, and hidden under my hair I should close my eyes, not just blink In the reality of my insanity, I think you left a drink on the brink of a blink In the back of my mind is the back of my mind, and it's not very pretty, which makes it good that it's in the back, and hidden under my hair Perhaps you intended it, what about the sink? Inside my mind lives a being of blue-ish pink It steps on my eardrum and I hear a clink In the back of my mind is the back of my mind, and it's not very pretty, which makes it good that it's in the back, and hidden under my hair Right now my VCR is totally out of sync I think that I'm related to the missing link Thought escape to the screen with cyan ink In the back of my mind is the back of my mind, and it's not very pretty, which makes it good that it's in the back, and hidden under my hair Lynx 9/5/94 --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 1844. Reply to #1843 Date: 09/05/94. Time: 19:49:22. Read 23 Times. From : Gravebuster To : The Hanged Man Subj : Necromancy RECEIVED Oh, come on, THM. You don't have to be as good as the Necromancer. You just have to be as good as The Hanged Man. If you're not, then you can leave.... +++Gravebuster --==no obfuscatronix on that one, in case you're wondering==-- Message # 1846. Reply to #1843 Date: 09/06/94. Time: 00:59:10. Read 26 Times. From : Number Two To : The Hanged Man Subj : Necromancy RECEIVED hey.... that's already been done. stop it immediately Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1847. Reply to #1845 Date: 09/06/94. Time: 01:00:30. Read 23 Times. From : Number Two To : The Hanged Man Subj : Necromancy RECEIVED You've been Obfuscated....... Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1848. Reply to #1845 Date: 09/06/94. Time: 01:07:15. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Hanged Man Subj : Necromancy RECEIVED CALM DOWN AND TAKE A VALIUM. THE NECROMANCER IS JUST STUCK IN A TIME WARP AND IS PICKING UP AT THE POINT WHERE HE LEFT OFF 8 YEARS AGO. C- - - Message # 1853. Date: 09/06/94. Time: 22:37:22. Read 23 Times. From : Mikester To : All Subj : Untie the auk, Cheryl I bought the Obfuscate board game today, but there was nothing in the box. So I played the Sinking of the Titanic game, instead. --M. Message # 1854. Reply to #1851 Date: 09/07/94. Time: 02:10:51. Read 21 Times. From : Stranger To : The Hanged Man Subj : Necromancy RECEIVED Your negativity can only backfire on you like everything else... reminder, my friend and beloved arch-nemesis (or was that Shea, I can neverkeep track of my arch-nemeses) that everything goes away if you are only patient. Stranger Message # 1857 -- Private. Message # 1859 -- Private. Message # 1860. Reply to #1849 Date: 09/08/94. Time: 12:36:01. Read 26 Times. From : Number Two To : The Hanged Man Subj : Necromancy RECEIVED I resigned a long time ago..... Be Seeing You ?? #1860. Message # 1861. Reply to #1855 Date: 09/08/94. Time: 12:38:52. Read 22 Times. From : Number Two To : The Hanged Man Subj : Necromancy RECEIVED Well, there is something you need to remember, the sysops here are our bosses, our landlords. The have seniority here over subops. That doesn't men you have to obey their every command, but they do get to have access whee they want and where hack let's them. We really have no say in it. I would suggest you just do as you have been doing....BOgging everything of his on your board. That's perfectly withing your rights as a sub-op and if I was as annoyed as you I would probably do the same (except in my sub it would just go to the head of the line again...Arrgghhh!). And now for my opinion. Since you have moved all of Lynx's posts into the BOg, I have had to read them all. Now he feels persecuted (as would I), but I didn't see the arrogance you spoke of. Infact, I think the time Lynx has spent away from here and on his own has matured him. I don't hear the sniveler (copyright Cosmic Encounters) in his posts anymore. You 2 hate each other, that's obvious, but don't try to make some kind of Armaggedon thing out of it, and threateen to leave the board if you don't get your way. That is what you did you know. Lynx is a co-sysop,and will have access to your sub (rented to you, but belonging to Hack) as long as he is one. Of course, Hack might be able to do something really nifty and make it so your sub was invisible to Lynx, but I don't see that happening. There have a;lready been enough shake ups around here without completely alientating another co-sysop(friend). If you 2 have disagreements, then take it out on each other, not on me, not on the Obfuscates, or subops or sysops or other users here, just on each other. Maybe I speak beyond my boundries, but I speak from inside. If you are unahppy here Dan, leave..... whining isn't going to get you your way, and if it does..... what damn shame. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1862. Date: 09/08/94. Time: 17:41:42. Read 21 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : Obfuscates/Lynx Subj : An Apology RECEIVED I'm sorry. Message # 1863 -- Private. Message # 1864 -- Private. Message # 1866. Reply to #1713 Date: 09/09/94. Time: 02:19:42. Read 20 Times. From : The Lunatic To : Lynx Subj : MOJO RECEIVED In response to your message, I can only validate that which is objective. Why do you hold such bitterness? You may see me as fake, but I am just adapting in order to relate better to my friends according to their situation. To me, it is more fake to always wear the same mask, presenting the same act consisting of a predictable and contrived personality. I am different from moment to moment because people respond differently from moment to moment, feel differently from day to day, relate differently from week to week. Anything else is shallow and superficial to me. You just don't seem to understand that some people care enough about others to identify and respond to their present state of mind. You reject me as a friend because of this, and have thrown away an opportunity to have a friend who will be sensitive to your changing moods and attitudes, and adjust to make you feel more comfortable and open lines of communication. As much as you speak of friendship, in word, I have never seen it, in deed, except for when we first met. Remember that with friendships, you're going to reap what you sow. You have experienced the positive aspects, why not apply them here? Accusations and harsh insults will never get through to people, but inspire them to diregard you as abusive and judgemental. This does not inspire friend potential. If I am not good enough to be your friend because you consider me fake, I accept that. This does not mean that we have to exchange insults, or slander each others name all over the place. All of this conflict is futile and destructive. There are so many positive things present in everyone...why dwell on mistakes and limitations of the past, and hinder each others development through confining reputations and outdated accusations? You are a christian, and I am sure that you have read a lot about love. Why can't we follow christ's second greatest commandment and love our peers as we love our own selves? It is amazing what a little respect and love can do for a person's attitude. Unless we bury the hatchet and let the past go and give each other the benefit of the doubt, there will continue to be pain and frusteration and conflict. All of which unnecesary. We don't have to be capable of being friends in order to get along, we just need to desire peace. And love. What do you say we all make an effort to be more positive and constructive in our interactions with each other? Despite our faults... We're all human... The Music Man X-ile --==EXobfuscate==-- (The Lunatic) Dillusionist! Or at least dilluded... Message # 1867. Reply to #1731 Date: 09/09/94. Time: 02:24:24. Read 20 Times. From : The Lunatic To : Number Two Subj : MOJO RECEIVED If friendship is not a worthwhile cause for ANY club/group/organization then I don't gnow what is...and I am concerned about anybody who would cast judgement against something because it encourages and respects friendship. Obfuscation was always an artistic form of expression, and each person's art is as important as anothers. I believe that some things, like friendship, are more valuable than art or elegantly original expression. It is far more easier to be expressive when we are accepted for who we are rather than being judged for what we do. When taken in, encouraged, and guided...just about anybody could tap into their obfuscate potential...with a little help from their friends... Without friendship, we have nothing... Message # 1868. Reply to #1814 Date: 09/09/94. Time: 02:39:38. Read 20 Times. From : The Lunatic To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Mikester/The Hanged Man/HACK MAN Subj : Off color question RECEIVED Neato, I'm a penguin. Would you like to go to the zoo and feed the humans? Message # 1869. Reply to #1867 Date: 09/09/94. Time: 03:01:22. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two To : The Lunatic Subj : MOJO RECEIVED Then we should be open and honest about it rather than saying that the only specifications for being an obfuscate is obfuscating. Perhaps it is the main one, but we shouldn't try to hide the fact that "us" liking "you" has something to do with it as well. I don't disagree with you about the importance of friendship. In fact, I can find little else of real value in this world. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1870. Reply to #1869 Date: 09/09/94. Time: 05:11:07. Read 22 Times. From : The Lunatic To : Number Two Subj : MOJO RECEIVED The "Obfuscates" would not retain continuity as a group unless it was somehow based upon friendship. It would be futile to accumulate unfriendly people into a group whose primary prerequisite is the ability to express obfuscated posts which contribute to the tradition of creative communication. Unfriendly people tend to have difficulty in communicating and mutually contributing to their peers in a productive and positive manner. Without friendship, there is conflict. Where there is conflict, friendship suffers. #1870. Message # 1872. Reply to #1870 Date: 09/09/94. Time: 09:41:46. Read 23 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Lunatic Subj : MOJO RECEIVED THEN STOP ACTING IN AN UNFRIENDLY WAY BY MAKING ACCUSATIONS. C- - - Message # 1873. Date: 09/09/94. Time: 09:42:22. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : ANNOUNCMENT ANYBODY WHO HAS ACCESS TO THIS SUB IS AN OBFUSCATE WETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT. THE ONLY REASON FOR THIS SUBS EXISTENCE IS SO THAT OBFUSCATES MAY SPEAK HERE. IF WE CAN'T AGREE ON THAT ONE SIMPLE POINT I WILL BE FORCED TO TAKE DRASTIC ACTIONS. C- - - Message # 1874. Reply to #1870 Date: 09/09/94. Time: 13:33:51. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : The Lunatic Subj : MOJO RECEIVED I agree....but do we really consider friendship a requirement? None of us really know Necromancer. we have met him but he hasn't become our friend yet. Is it just a loop hoe or the way things should be? hawk-dropped Message # 1875. Reply to #1873 Date: 09/09/94. Time: 20:28:19. Read 16 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : HACK MAN Subj : ANNOUNCMENT RECEIVED LEAVE MY DWIGHT YOKUM RECORDS ALONE!!! Message # 1876 -- Private. Message # 1877. Reply to #1866 Date: 09/10/94. Time: 00:03:33. Read 14 Times. From : Lynx To : The Lunatic Subj : MOJO RECEIVED Thank you for your words. I must admit that I have realized something that I was being hypocritical about. Here I was claiming to have changed and have less harshness and abusiveness, but then when it comes to those who I was previously harsh to and abusive to like you, mojo, and stranger, I have continued in my ways. I can only ask that you understand, and perhaps tolerate me through the changes I need to make. It's hard to change, but it can be done. I have not rejected you as a friend so much as just refused to be good/close friends. I had some biased and swayed (by others) opinions, I must try and forget those things. I agree with you that we need to each take some initiative to resolve this, and I am going to try. Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- p.s. I also apologize for the harsh words I have directed towards you recently. Message # 1878. Reply to #1875 Date: 09/10/94. Time: 00:12:48. Read 21 Times. From : Lynx To : The Hanged Man Subj : ANNOUNCMENT RECEIVED I like Dwight Yokum's music. Believe it or not. Lynx Comments : OH MY GOD!=1 Message # 1879 -- Private. Message # 1880. Reply to #1878 Date: 09/10/94. Time: 09:27:03. Read 19 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : Lynx Subj : ANNOUNCMENT RECEIVED I didn't say it was bad music. The name just sounded strange enough to work for that gag. #1880. Message # 1881. Reply to #1880 Date: 09/10/94. Time: 19:21:40. Read 18 Times. From : Lynx To : The Hanged Man Subj : ANNOUNCMENT RECEIVED I was just commenting that I liked his music. Didn't mean to imply anything. Lynx Message # 1882. Reply to #1872 Date: 09/11/94. Time: 17:47:35. Read 20 Times. From : The Lunatic To : HACK MAN Subj : MOJO RECEIVED Take your own advice... Message # 1883. Reply to #1873 Date: 09/11/94. Time: 17:48:01. Read 16 Times. From : The Lunatic To : HACK MAN Subj : ANNOUNCMENT RECEIVED The only reason? You keep changing the rules. There was once another reason for this sub, but I guess you forgot what it was. If you want everyone to agree on something, then try democracy. The purpose of obfuscation keeps changing everytime you express what it is supposed to be. Just like this sub, and all else. Stop expressing everything in absolutes, it annoys us ex-obfuscates... Message # 1884. Reply to #1874 Date: 09/11/94. Time: 17:50:42. Read 16 Times. From : The Lunatic To : Number Two Subj : MOJO RECEIVED Friends come and go, and sometimes come back again, and go again... The oldfuscates remember him, and gnow him. It is not convenient for everyone to instantly become friends as new obfuscates emerge and old ones reemerge, but I would hope that people make an effort to be friends. SOmetimes it works, sometimes it does not. It never would without effort. Message # 1885. Reply to #1877 Date: 09/11/94. Time: 17:54:03. Read 16 Times. From : The Lunatic To : Lynx Subj : MOJO RECEIVED Your apology means a great deal to me, and I hope it might set a new trend here, at least mith as many people as possible. I am happy that you were honest with yourself about the things that I really didn't want to say, because I don't want to judge you or seem like I'm calling names. We are all hypocrites in our own way, for it is part of being human. I believe that we can all get along better if we accept each others faults instead of poionting them out all the time in painful ways. I am happy that you are more open! I am very patient, and will bear with you and any other friend. As long as youare making an affort to get along, I will overlook any faults. Thank you for being honest, and for being a friend. We don't have to like eberything about each other in order to still be friends. I hope more people here start realizing that, and make an effort to end the conflicts. I just want to get along... Thank you... Message # 1886. Reply to #1885 Date: 09/11/94. Time: 21:23:28. Read 16 Times. From : Lynx To : The Lunatic Subj : MOJO RECEIVED I couldn't agree more, and thank you for talking this out with me. Lynx p.s. DOINK! Message # 1887. Reply to #1882 Date: 09/12/94. Time: 20:42:11. Read 19 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Lunatic Subj : MOJO RECEIVED OK. C- - - Message # 1888. Reply to #1883 Date: 09/12/94. Time: 20:42:34. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Lunatic Subj : ANNOUNCMENT RECEIVED THERE ARE INFINITE NUMBERS OF REASONS FOR OBFUSCATION. OR AT LEAST ONE REASON FOR EACH OBFUSCATE. AS FOR THIS SUB THOUGH, I MADE IT AND I MADE IF FOR OBFUSCATES TO TALK AND HAVE FUTILE DELUDED SCHISMS OF CONSENSUS LIKE THIS ONE THAT WE ARE HAVING RIGHT NOW. GREAT ISN'T IT?? :) C- - - Message # 1889. Reply to #1886 Date: 09/16/94. Time: 06:25:25. Read 15 Times. From : The Lunatic To : Lynx Subj : MOJO RECEIVED Welcome. I hate conflict... Message # 1890. Reply to #1887 Date: 09/16/94. Time: 06:26:00. Read 16 Times. From : The Lunatic To : HACK MAN Subj : MOJO RECEIVED Thank you. #1890. Message # 1891. Reply to #1888 Date: 09/16/94. Time: 06:26:23. Read 24 Times. From : The Lunatic To : HACK MAN Subj : ANNOUNCMENT RECEIVED Impressive. When do I get my penguin? Message # 1892. Reply to #1891 Date: 09/17/94. Time: 16:04:25. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : The Lunatic Subj : ANNOUNCMENT RECEIVED After you divert the Tigris and tame a meadow of wild cherries. Stranger Message # 1893. Reply to #1884 Date: 09/19/94. Time: 13:21:59. Read 21 Times. From : Number Two To : The Lunatic Subj : MOJO RECEIVED Yeah, friends do come and go, and obviously no one is going to like everyone (oh I can see GB drooling over this one), and vice versa. I just hope that we can keep an air of cooperation here. Obfuscation, like poetic terrorism works best from a group with like ideas on the subject and the target(s). Obfuscation is an attack on sensibility and complacency. Sometimes sarcastic, sometimes dry of wit, and sometimes totally inseperable from the thing which it is clouding over, it exists only to serve as a device on enlightenment. Enlightenment by obfuscation......a possible answer, I think. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 1894. Reply to #1892 Date: 09/19/94. Time: 14:06:59. Read 16 Times. From : The Lunatic To : Stranger Subj : ANNOUNCMENT RECEIVED But, that's what I need the penguins for... Message # 1895. Reply to #1893 Date: 09/19/94. Time: 14:08:44. Read 17 Times. From : The Lunatic To : Number Two Subj : MOJO RECEIVED It sounds good to me. A positive use of obfuscation... Message # 1896. Reply to #1891 Date: 09/19/94. Time: 18:52:52. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Lunatic Subj : ANNOUNCMENT RECEIVED IT'S HELD UP IN CUSTOMS. C- - - Message # 1897. Reply to #1896 Date: 09/19/94. Time: 18:54:51. Read 16 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : HACK MAN Subj : ANNOUNCMENT RECEIVED Its held in by Custos! Message # 1898. Reply to #1893 Date: 09/19/94. Time: 21:33:55. Read 21 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : MOJO RECEIVED Bravo!! Stranger Message # 1899. Reply to #1898 Date: 09/20/94. Time: 01:31:04. Read 19 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : MOJO RECEIVED I feel the poetic terrorist bug in me. BEWARE No nameis a good name Message # 1900. Reply to #1896 Date: 09/20/94. Time: 01:56:13. Read 25 Times. From : The Lunatic To : HACK MAN Subj : ANNOUNCMENT RECEIVED If I don't get a penguin soon, I might lose it again. #1900. Message # 1901. Reply to #1900 Date: 09/20/94. Time: 12:26:11. Read 25 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Lunatic Subj : ANNOUNCMENT RECEIVED HOW CAN YOU LOSE IT IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT? THAT COULD BE IN INTERESTING SKILL FOR ME TO LEARN. IF YOU LOSE IT BEFORE YOU HAVE IT, THEN YOU CAN ONLY FIND IT AFTER YOU'VE GOT IT. C- - - Message # 1902. Reply to #1901 Date: 09/20/94. Time: 23:26:46. Read 21 Times. From : Mikester To : HACK MAN Subj : ANNOUNCMENT RECEIVED I don't get it. (But, then, I never had it.) --M. Message # 1903. Reply to #1900 Date: 09/21/94. Time: 09:17:49. Read 22 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : The Lunatic Subj : ANNOUNCMENT RECEIVED Here, have a BOg PEnguin. Message # 1904. Reply to #1901 Date: 09/24/94. Time: 23:51:35. Read 19 Times. From : The Lunatic To : HACK MAN Subj : ANNOUNCMENT RECEIVED Penguins don't work that way, they're always lost... Message # 1905. Reply to #1903 Date: 09/24/94. Time: 23:52:17. Read 24 Times. From : The Lunatic To : The Hanged Man Subj : ANNOUNCMENT RECEIVED It's not the same. I wanna REAL penguin!!!!!! Message # 1906. Reply to #1905 Date: 09/26/94. Time: 11:52:36. Read 22 Times. From : Stranger To : The Lunatic Subj : ANNOUNCMENT RECEIVED There's no such thing as a real penguin.... they are all the results of animatronics and lots of wishful thinking. Stranger Message # 1907. Reply to #1906 Date: 10/01/94. Time: 00:01:25. Read 18 Times. From : The Lunatic To : Stranger Subj : ANNOUNCMENT RECEIVED Don't burst my bubble. I believe in penguins!! They really exist! Honest! I even saw one once at the supermarket!!!! Message # 1908. Reply to #1902 Date: 10/02/94. Time: 07:50:49. Read 21 Times. From : Ghost To : Mikester Subj : ANNOUNCMENT RECEIVED Just be patient, it is very catching. Message # 1911. Date: 10/02/94. Time: 07:54:43. Read 26 Times. From : Ghost To : all Subj : Put this one on your plate Did you know land masses are always moving? Tectonically speaking, you're not in the same place that you were when you started reading this message. Remember, geology is the opiate of the masses! And do not forget to clean your plate. Message # 1912. Reply to #1911 Date: 10/02/94. Time: 08:06:09. Read 20 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : Ghost Subj : Put this one on your plate RECEIVED Did you know about the rip in your tentacles before the moving truck hit you? Message # 1913. Reply to #1911 Date: 10/02/94. Time: 18:29:01. Read 18 Times. From : Mikester To : Ghost Subj : Put this one on your plate RECEIVED Hopefully, land masses will move in such a way that my morning work commute will be that much shorter. --M. Message # 1914. Reply to #1912 Date: 10/02/94. Time: 23:35:51. Read 20 Times. From : Ghost To : The Hanged Man Subj : Put this one on your plate RECEIVED But didn't I fold my tent and steal away long before the truck moved? Message # 1916. Reply to #1913 Date: 10/02/94. Time: 23:39:42. Read 19 Times. From : Ghost To : Mikester Subj : Put this one on your plate RECEIVED When I ask, "Did the earth move for you?", somehow, a short commute is not what I'm wondering about. But perhaps you'd like to commute my sentence? Message # 1917. Reply to #1911 Date: 10/03/94. Time: 14:41:37. Read 24 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Ghost Subj : Put this one on your plate RECEIVED IN ORDER TO CLEAN MY PLATE I'D HAVE TO REMOVE IT FROM MY HEAD FIRST - AND I DON'T HAVE THE PROPER TOOLS. C- - - Message # 1918. Date: 10/18/94. Time: 00:21:45. Read 25 Times. From : Stranger To : All/EelnceCore Subj : heck and dalmatian Comments : HAHAHA=1 BRAVO!=1 Message # 1919. Reply to #1918 Date: 10/18/94. Time: 10:14:28. Read 23 Times. From : HACK MAN To : All/EelnceCore/Stranger Subj : heck and dalmatian RECEIVED I SHOULD HAVE GNOWN. C- - - Message # 1920. Reply to #1917 Date: 10/19/94. Time: 22:35:05. Read 23 Times. From : Ghost To : HACK MAN Subj : Put this one on your plate RECEIVED It is easier to simply remove the head. #1920. Message # 1921. Reply to #1920 Date: 10/23/94. Time: 09:56:06. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Ghost Subj : Put this one on your plate RECEIVED TOO LATE I LOST MY HEAD ALREADY. C- - - Message # 1923. Date: 10/25/94. Time: 23:21:17. Read 20 Times. From : Ghost To : Invisible Dictionary Subj : Thought for the night. Sit on the bank of a river and wait: your enemy's corpse will soon float by. --Anonymous Message # 1925. Reply to #1923 Date: 10/27/94. Time: 23:37:40. Read 25 Times. From : Ghost To : Ghost Subj : Thought for the night. RECEIVED All that we see or seem Is but a dream within a dream. Edgar Allen Poe Sweet dreams Clear songs of crystal bones Follow love's rung changes Bell bound, tolled 10/27/94 Message # 1928. Date: 11/16/94. Time: 01:05:35. Read 18 Times. From : Ghost To : Nona Buv Subj : Sangs Tone wingless spin and dice in prussict shadows iced with fractured shreds of booklow talons when mares run free from open beener gates in the idol mind so the hanging man counts his nots as he slips them upslides away and falls to sky in noiseless rites of utterbyes 11/15/94 Message # 1929. Reply to #1928 Date: 11/17/94. Time: 12:52:12. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : Ghost Subj : RECEIVED I think you're the pioneer of 1990's surrealist poetry. You pick up where Philip Lamantia never dreamed of leaving off. Stranger (Bravo!) Message # 1930. Reply to #1929 Date: 11/18/94. Time: 00:59:08. Read 15 Times. From : Ghost To : Stranger Subj : RECEIVED Phillip Lamantia probably used a jumar. Thank you. #1930. Message # 1931. Reply to #1930 Date: 11/18/94. Time: 12:25:15. Read 16 Times. From : Stranger To : Ghost Subj : RECEIVED You made me look up "jumar" and then it wasn't even in my dictionary. Wah. Stranger Message # 1933. Reply to #1931 Date: 11/19/94. Time: 00:20:14. Read 16 Times. From : Ghost To : Stranger Subj : RECEIVED You're using the wrong dictionary. Sometimes the most interesting words are found when you are at the end of your rope. Message # 1934. Reply to #1933 Date: 11/22/94. Time: 19:29:39. Read 13 Times. From : Stranger To : Ghost Subj : RECEIVED I'mn always at the end of one rope or another. The way of de vine. Stranger Message # 1935. Reply to #1934 Date: 11/22/94. Time: 22:33:56. Read 15 Times. From : Ghost To : Stranger Subj : RECEIVED But the thing to pay attention to, when you are at the end of a rope, is just which end are you on? Do you belay? Or are you belayed? (I will allow a short intermission to play belay into betray and back with out a delay. Done? Good. Too much clanging makes even my ears ring.) The point is, you can't work a rope on your own. There always has to be another person at one end or another. If you do the belaying, you can catch a tremendous weight very nearly effortlessly, properly anchored and warned. That's why there's a rule about yelling, "Falling!", when you do. And if you are on belay, bumps and bruises don't matter, because you are always going to get caught safe. This is the climber's ritual: "Belay on?" "On belay!" "Climbing." "Climb!" "Falling!!!" "Belay off." "Off belay!" On belay. Message # 1936. Reply to #1935 Date: 11/28/94. Time: 01:29:13. Read 15 Times. From : Stranger To : Ghost Subj : RECEIVED Loneliness and togetherness are images reflected on car windows in quiet little towns. Stranger Comments : BRAVO!=1 Message # 1937. Date: 11/28/94. Time: 06:44:27. Read 20 Times. From : Mojo IV To : All Subj : All Ho... ho... ho... ho... ho... SOMEBODY STOPPED UP THE TOILET!!!! Message # 1941. Reply to #1936 Date: 11/28/94. Time: 22:51:24. Read 15 Times. From : Ghost To : Stranger Subj : RECEIVED Conversation With a Stranger And the images break and spin in fever dreams of never was While shadowlights blind wet eyes and sweet death drowns reason So the world's yolk spatters and drips acid fear Into the helpless hears of all the cardboard clowns Message # 1942. Reply to #1941 Date: 11/28/94. Time: 23:45:07. Read 16 Times. From : Stranger To : Ghost Subj : RECEIVED a fool and his dog are soon parted as a tree and a seed, two birds in the hand or one struck asunder, or blinded by thunder or enslaved to father's lame hand. Stranger Message # 1943. Reply to #1942 Date: 11/30/94. Time: 00:40:51. Read 16 Times. From : Ghost To : Stranger Subj : RECEIVED king to those who will not see, one-eyed jack rues all the lost fates he, faithless, will spurn; the dying son his constant companion, he watches blind thunderbirds burn. Message # 1944. Reply to #1943 Date: 12/02/94. Time: 04:04:50. Read 21 Times. From : Stranger To : Ghost Subj : RECEIVED spurn the burn of bitter nights when drive thru lovers seem to leave-- go the way of nightly knights and grant me my reprieve. Tremble thou who will stand before the king of winter's dark passage, for away anon and if all else fails, his wolves will rape, not ravage. Scurry! Scurry! and then fall away. Leave like leaf and cast no roots, see the free and then believe: no one can kill the dark, or stand against the day. Stranger Comments : BRAVO!=1 Message # 1945. Date: 12/02/94. Time: 23:32:24. Read 18 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Tellura Subj : Unnn like Lee I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I S S s S S S S S tutter quite a bit. -=Mojo IV=- -==OBFUSCATE==- -=SQuishy BOgSLug=- Message # 1946. Reply to #1944 Date: 12/06/94. Time: 23:04:10. Read 16 Times. From : Ghost To : Stranger Subj : RECEIVED I am my day's last light The quiet fade to waiting shadow The fall to trembling night Message # 1947. Date: 12/07/94. Time: 07:23:59. Read 17 Times. From : Mojo IV To : all Subj : Huh? Today is the day I will breath my last. That is not to say I shall die, I'm just giving up breathing. Nasty habit. -=Mojo IV=- -==OBFUSCATE==- -=SQuishy BOgSLug=- Message # 1948. Reply to #1947 Date: 12/11/94. Time: 14:08:03. Read 16 Times. From : Number Two To : Mojo IV Subj : Huh? RECEIVED I tried that once. I went to Schick Shadell and with just a couple of weeks and a few 2 day follow ups, I was sure I could kick the habit. Of course, I found myself waking up in the middle of the night breathing. Now I have just accepted the fact that I like to breath, and will keep on doing so even if it costs me my friends family job, and my little house. I don't care, breathing is the most important thing in my life. Message # 1949. Reply to #1474 Date: 12/14/94. Time: 14:54:26. Read 13 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED Arwen, although this post is over a year old, I feel like I really have to reply to it. See, just did it. -=Mojo IV=- -==OBFUSCATE==- -=SQuishy BOgSLug=- Message # 1950. Reply to #1481 Date: 12/14/94. Time: 14:56:42. Read 11 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Arwen Undomiel Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED I second that! JEHAN FOR OBFUSCATE!!!! -=Mojo IV=- -==OBFUSCATE==- -=SQuishy BOgSLug=- #1950. Message # 1951. Reply to #1483 Date: 12/14/94. Time: 14:57:14. Read 11 Times. From : Mojo IV To : STRANGER/ARWEN UNDOMIEL/HACK MAN Subj : NOW NOW RECEIVED Slimy behind the ears, at any rate. <<3.5%, compounded annually>> -=Mojo IV=- -==OBFUSCATE==- -=SQuishy BOgSLug=- Message # 1952. Reply to #1643 Date: 12/14/94. Time: 15:00:19. Read 11 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Gravebuster Subj : Another Response To A Message By Mojo That For Some Reason Was Killed Futility is Obsessive. <> -=Mojo IV=- -==OBFUSCATE==- -=SQuishy BOgSLug=- Message # 1953. Reply to #1691 Date: 12/14/94. Time: 15:06:23. Read 13 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Lynx/Mojo IV/Gravebuster Subj : Nomination RECEIVED YOU FIEND!!!! =>Mojo IV<= -=- OBFUSCATE -=- ("SQuishy BOgSLug") Message # 1954. Reply to #1707 Date: 12/14/94. Time: 15:06:54. Read 11 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Gravebuster Subj : MOJO Does this mean if somebody taunts me, I can ask for their license? If they don't have a license, can I send them to the Gulash Gulag, where they'll toil day after day making Gulash out of dead, skinned minks and purple fang- cleaning syrup? Or am I missing the point? =>Mojo IV<= -=- OBFUSCATE -=- ("SQuishy BOgSLug") Message # 1955. Reply to #1712 Date: 12/14/94. Time: 15:08:32. Read 12 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Ghost Subj : A general warning RECEIVED Salsa is in the eye of the Beholder. <> =>Mojo IV<= -=- OBFUSCATE -=- ("SQuishy BOgSLug") Message # 1956. Reply to #1715 Date: 12/14/94. Time: 15:09:30. Read 12 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Lynx Subj : MOJO RECEIVED It was cut when open season on Gizmo was declared last fall. We all had our licenses expire and we had to do a DNA test on our hunting ferrets to make sure they we're at Nicole Kidman's murder site. =>Mojo IV<= -=- OBFUSCATE -=- ("SQuishy BOgSLug") Message # 1957. Reply to #1727 Date: 12/14/94. Time: 15:12:20. Read 13 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Number Two Subj : Mikester For Obfuscate RECEIVED And who's his running mate, then? =>Mojo IV<= -=- OBFUSCATE -=- ("SQuishy BOgSLug") Message # 1958. Reply to #1756 Date: 12/14/94. Time: 15:15:33. Read 15 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Mikester Subj : Nomination RECEIVED I gnominate Choleric Wastrel for Obfuscate. =>Mojo IV<= -=- OBFUSCATE -=- ("SQuishy BOgSLug") Message # 1959. Reply to #1757 Date: 12/14/94. Time: 15:15:53. Read 15 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Mikester Subj : Spinning of wheels, grinding of teeth RECEIVED Hehehehehe... fun, wasn't it? First thing I did was to go back and look at al the secret posts from the time I was really, REALLY hated around here(the "XenoGenesis" age and all). Amazing what some people said back then. Find the hidden potion! =>Mojo IV<= -=- OBFUSCATE -=- ("SQuishy BOgSLug") Message # 1960. Reply to #1842 Date: 12/14/94. Time: 15:20:09. Read 15 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Lynx Subj : Something RECEIVED Don't deal with reality. Sell Amway products, instead! =>Mojo IV<= -=- OBFUSCATE -=- ("SQuishy BOgSLug") #1960. Message # 1961. Reply to #1958 Date: 12/14/94. Time: 18:30:45. Read 15 Times. From : Mikester To : Mojo IV Subj : Nomination RECEIVED I nominate Carlos the Romantic Shark Killer for Obfuscate. I nominate Choleric Wastrel for Obfuscate. I nominate Cognoscente for Obfuscate. I nominate all of my other selves and imaginary associates for Obfuscate. --M. Message # 1962. Reply to #1959 Date: 12/14/94. Time: 18:32:35. Read 15 Times. From : Mikester To : Mojo IV Subj : Spinning of wheels, grinding of teeth RECEIVED Yeah, I can't believe what that one guy said about me. --M. Message # 1963. Reply to #1960 Date: 12/14/94. Time: 18:33:10. Read 15 Times. From : Mikester To : Mojo IV Subj : Something RECEIVED "Amway," translated out of the original Pig Latin, is "Wam." --M. Message # 1964. Reply to #1962 Date: 12/15/94. Time: 11:57:58. Read 16 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Mikester Subj : Spinning of wheels, grinding of teeth RECEIVED Which one guy? =>Mojo IV<= -=- OBFUSCATE -=- ("SQuishy BOgSLug") Message # 1965. Reply to #1963 Date: 12/15/94. Time: 11:58:14. Read 14 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Mikester Subj : Something RECEIVED Pig Latin -- is that bacon w/ an accent? =>Mojo IV<= -=- OBFUSCATE -=- ("SQuishy BOgSLug") Message # 1966. Reply to #1964 Date: 12/15/94. Time: 21:14:19. Read 15 Times. From : Mikester To : Mojo IV Subj : Spinning of wheels, grinding of teeth RECEIVED You gnow...THAT guy. --M. Message # 1967. Reply to #1727 Date: 12/27/94. Time: 00:07:44. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two To : Number Two Subj : Mikester For Obfuscate RECEIVED not you !!!! Message # 1968. Reply to #1967 Date: 12/27/94. Time: 08:44:38. Read 22 Times. From : Mikester To : Number Two Subj : Mikester For Obfuscate RECEIVED Am I an Obfuscate ye...oh, never mind. --M. Message # 1969. Date: 01/14/95. Time: 14:22:32. Read 24 Times. From : Mojo IV To : obfuscates Subj : And the Gnominations Are... I wish to gnominate the following people for Obfuscation Status: Shay Pas: Born during the turbulent aftermath of the Crimean war, Shay was captured by Tartar slavers and sold on the market at Damascus as a hat rack. Her hobbies are candle-making, slobbering, and OBFUSCATION. ANN OTHERWORLD: Infamous in Criminal Circles as the original Silk Spectre, Ann operated as a masked vigilante in the 40s, bringing down the vicious Communistic Mafia Dance Hall Girls' ever tightening grip on Major League Baseball. In the 50s, she retired her identity to join a cult of Mango worshippers in the Province of Thud, distributing Mayo buttons to the poor. Her hobbies at mass suicide, transubstantiation, and OBFUSCATION. JEHAN: This vicious, psychopathic killer is wanted in 47 states and Puerto Rico for rape, arson, murder, and rape. She is currently hiding out in former President Reagan's jelly bean jar. Her hobbies are bible study, playing the xylaphone, and OBFUSCATION. Can we have a vote now? Message # 1970. Reply to #1969 Date: 01/14/95. Time: 19:49:32. Read 19 Times. From : Mikester To : obfuscates/Mojo IV Subj : And the Gnominations Are... RECEIVED Am I supposed to vote Q or Picard? How about Sisko? --M. #1970. Message # 1971. Reply to #1969 Date: 01/15/95. Time: 02:41:06. Read 20 Times. From : Ghost To : obfuscates/Mojo IV Subj : And the Gnominations Are... RECEIVED The erection was called on a count of a boat. Shay Pas yes Ann Otherworld no Jehan no Message # 1972. Reply to #1969 Date: 01/15/95. Time: 19:48:21. Read 21 Times. From : Mikester To : obfuscates/Mojo IV Subj : And the Gnominations Are... RECEIVED I hate myself, but I like all of them. ANN and Jehan are greatly Obfuscated, but we all pale in comparison to the likes of Shay Pas. Yee har, let her in, baby! --M. Message # 1973. Date: 01/15/95. Time: 23:14:31. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : Hack Man Subj : OBFUSCATE STATUS RECEIVED Here are my votes: Shay Pas: yes Ann Otherworld: no Jehan : no Stranger Message # 1974. Date: 01/16/95. Time: 11:08:45. Read 19 Times. From : Number Two To : Mojo IV Subj : Voted and tied like a hog RECEIVED I prefer originality, but in this case I am going to have to vote (Shay get that gun out of my back) the same as My comrades in the ObfuscaTriad and... Shay Pas - Hell Yes.... I wouldn't have nominated her myself months ago if I didn't think she was the greatest living Obfuscate Ann - No, but a qualified one. I give the same reasons that have been given for others in the past....give her more time to develop her obfuscation Jehan - this one is the hardest....I will reserve my vote on this oneuntil a bit later....(I must investigate) C--- Message # 1975. Reply to #1972 Date: 01/16/95. Time: 13:11:41. Read 19 Times. From : Mojo IV To : obfuscates/Mojo IV/Mikester Subj : And the Gnominations Are... RECEIVED That's THREE VOTES for Shay Pas, and major indecisiveness on the other two. Who else? =>Mojo IV<= -=- OBFUSCATE -=- ("SQuishy BOgSLug") Message # 1976. Reply to #1973 Date: 01/16/95. Time: 13:12:16. Read 18 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Stranger Subj : OBFUSCATE STATUS RECEIVED Four votes, and only 1 vote for Jehan and Ann. Message # 1977. Reply to #1974 Date: 01/16/95. Time: 13:12:50. Read 18 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Number Two Subj : Voted and tied like a hog RECEIVED Well, it has to be brough up for review every once and awhile. That's 5 yes, 0 no for Shay. Message # 1978. Reply to #1975 Date: 01/16/95. Time: 16:07:09. Read 19 Times. From : Stranger To : obfuscates/Mikester/Mojo IV Subj : And the Gnominations Are... RECEIVED Geez mojo, it's going to take more than one friggin day to get votes. More like a month. Stranger Message # 1979. Date: 01/16/95. Time: 19:45:56. Read 32 Times. From : Mikester To : Jehan and ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : Hello! On that day when the two of you finally gain Obfuscate status, and I have no doubt you will, and you decide to word-search previous messages on this sub for your name, like we all have, and you come across the message where I voted "Yes" on Shay Pas and "No" on the two of you, please don't come to my house and kill me. --M. Comments : OH MY GOD!=1 Message # 1980. Reply to #1978 Date: 01/17/95. Time: 12:13:57. Read 20 Times. From : Mojo IV To : obfuscates/Mikester/Mojo IV/Stranger Subj : And the Gnominations Are... RECEIVED I'm trying to ENCOURAGE speed. #1980. Message # 1981. Reply to #1979 Date: 01/17/95. Time: 12:14:21. Read 21 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Mikester Subj : Hello! RECEIVED Oh, I already told them, and they're on their way now. Message # 1982. Reply to #1981 Date: 01/17/95. Time: 19:24:57. Read 24 Times. From : Mikester To : Mojo IV Subj : Hello! RECEIVED I have my rubber shark and my chromium Van Gogh trading card to protect me. --M. Message # 1983. Reply to #1969 Date: 01/20/95. Time: 12:48:17. Read 24 Times. From : HACK MAN To : obfuscates/Mojo IV Subj : And the Gnominations Are... RECEIVED I'LL VOTE YES ON ALL COUNTS. C- - - Message # 1985. Reply to #1100 Date: 01/20/95. Time: 12:57:28. Read 27 Times. From : HACK MAN To : HACK MAN Subj : NEW "RULES" FOR APPROVING OBFUSCATES RECEIVED IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE RULES FOR VOTING PRESS D. THESE RULES WERE NECESSARY BECAUSE OF POPULAR DEMAND AND MORE IMPORTANTLY EXCESS BITCHING. C- - - Message # 1987. Date: 01/22/95. Time: 16:40:20. Read 22 Times. From : Lynx To : all Subj : DOINK! #include #define ONE "votes " #define TO "Shay pas, " #define AT "and Ann Otherworld " #define ME "Jehan, " #define NO "My " #define LISTENS "for " #define ALL "are: " void main (void) { char *vote = NULL; char *yes = "yes"; char *no = "no"; int i; printf(NO ONE LISTENS TO ME AT ALL); for(i = 0; i < 3; i++) { if(i < 1) vote = yes; if(i > 0) vote = no; if(i == 1) printf("%s, and ",vote); else if(i > 1) printf("%s.\n",vote); else printf("%s, ",vote); } } Press a key to see program output... My votes for Shay pas, Jehan, and Ann Otherworld are: yes, no, and no. Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- Comments : HAHAHA=1 Message # 1988. Reply to #1987 Date: 01/22/95. Time: 21:40:29. Read 23 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Lynx Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED I think we've about elected Shay, guys. Any final disputes or should we spring it on the lil' sadistic golf club salesman? Message # 1989. Reply to #1988 Date: 01/23/95. Time: 23:34:53. Read 23 Times. From : Stranger To : Mojo IV Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED I think the standard period is one month.... you have to give the more distant Obfuscates a chance to vote. Stranger Message # 1990. Date: 01/26/95. Time: 22:45:32. Read 22 Times. From : Unka Buck To : anyone who cares and everyone who doesn't Subj : How I vote. Shay Pas-----Q AnnOtherworld-------Q Jehan-------Q Bears watching------Ashiqi [why are the bears watching?]Ithink she has potential [please note this is not a nomination.] Unka Buck--------not a chance, if he gets elected, then I don't deserve to be an obfuscate. No way I will remain an obfuscate if ub is one. --==UNKA BUCK==-- --==OBFUSCATE==-- #1990. Message # 1992. Date: 02/05/95. Time: 12:32:52. Read 25 Times. From : Mojo IV To : obfuscates Subj : Shay Pas Gennleman, I do believe the voting is done. It looks like we just elected SHAY PAS for Obfuscate. Now stop being OBSTINATE OBFUSCATES and bloody well give 'er access!!! :) =>Mojo IV<= -=- OBFUSCATE -=- -=SQuishy BOgSLug=- Message # 1993. Reply to #1992 Date: 02/06/95. Time: 14:38:14. Read 23 Times. From : HACK MAN To : obfuscates/Mojo IV Subj : Shay Pas RECEIVED I'M STILL POUTING BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS BEING TOO PICKY. I'LL GET OVER IT IN A FEW MEGAFLOPS. C- - - Message # 1996. Reply to #1993 Date: 02/06/95. Time: 22:49:33. Read 21 Times. From : Ghost To : obfuscates/Mojo IV/HACK MAN Subj : Shay Pas RECEIVED Then pick two, after all, you are the Hack God. Message # 1997. Reply to #1979 Date: 02/17/95. Time: 22:03:08. Read 17 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Mikester Subj : Hello! RECEIVED Shay Pas: 1 Ann : 0 Jehan : 0 Message # 1998. Reply to #1983 Date: 02/17/95. Time: 22:03:38. Read 19 Times. From : Mojo IV To : obfuscates/Mojo IV/HACK MAN Subj : And the Gnominations Are... RECEIVED Shay Pas: 2 Ann : 1 Jehan : 1 Message # 1999. Reply to #1987 Date: 02/17/95. Time: 22:04:09. Read 18 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Lynx Subj : DOINK! RECEIVED Shay Pas: 3 Ann : 1 Jehan : 1 Message # 2000. Reply to #1990 Date: 02/17/95. Time: 22:04:45. Read 25 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Unka Buck Subj : How I vote. RECEIVED Shay Pas: 3 + Q Ann : 1 + Q Jehan : 1 + Q #2000. Message # 2001. Date: 02/17/95. Time: 22:06:11. Read 25 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Obfuscates Subj : SHAY PAS Shay Pas got 3 out of 4 votes. However, being the gnominator, I dunno if I get a vote. If I get to vote, then Shay Pas gets 4 out of 5. In any case, she wins. shall we, hmmmmmm???? Message # 2002. Reply to #2001 Date: 02/19/95. Time: 15:29:05. Read 27 Times. From : Stranger To : Obfuscates/Mojo IV Subj : SHAY PAS RECEIVED Please shut up about the vote. Stranger Message # 2003. Reply to #2002 Date: 02/19/95. Time: 17:09:39. Read 31 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Obfuscates/Mojo IV/Stranger Subj : SHAY PAS RECEIVED Hey, Stranger, don't tell me to shut up. I'll post WHAT I want, when I want. I supposed, by that logic, you can post "SHUT UP" a billion times, but oh well. I'm not shutting up. I'd sooner stop calling and stop coming over to the retreat than let you tell me what I can or cannot say. If there's to be no voting, or pressing of voting, then FINE, I won't even bother. But if you find me annoying I suggest one of two things: 1. Reduce my access. You are co-sysop, you have a perfect right. You could even delete me if you want to, and if my account were deleted, I wouldn't log back on again. I wouldn't care. I like this BBS and the people on it, but not so much that I'll sit back and take this shit, especially from someone I SUPPOSEDLY thought was a friend of mine. 2. Hit enter when my messages come up. Otherwise, Stranger, DEAL WITH IT, because I am NOT gonna shut up. Message # 2004. Reply to #2003 Date: 02/20/95. Time: 00:52:19. Read 27 Times. From : Stranger To : Obfuscates/Stranger/Mojo IV Subj : SHAY PAS RECEIVED Yeah you are. Stranger Message # 2005. Reply to #2003 Date: 02/20/95. Time: 01:36:55. Read 19 Times. From : Unka Buck To : Obfuscates/Stranger/Mojo IV Subj : SHAY PAS RECEIVED That strikes me as an overreaction. --==UNKA BUCK==-- --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 2006. Reply to #2004 Date: 02/21/95. Time: 09:50:55. Read 23 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Obfuscates/Mojo IV/Stranger Subj : SHAY PAS RECEIVED Make me. Message # 2007. Reply to #2005 Date: 02/21/95. Time: 09:51:11. Read 19 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Obfuscates/Stranger/Mojo IV/Unka Buck Subj : SHAY PAS RECEIVED Hey, I could've gotten violent and REALLY nasty. Message # 2009. Reply to #2006 Date: 02/21/95. Time: 13:53:58. Read 27 Times. From : Stranger To : Obfuscates/Stranger/Mojo IV Subj : SHAY PAS RECEIVED Done. Stranger Message # 2012. Reply to #2009 Date: 02/21/95. Time: 15:14:48. Read 26 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Obfuscates/Mojo IV/Stranger Subj : SHAY PAS RECEIVED Well, hell, excuse me, it looks like you said "PLEASE" on your original post. Damn, I'm just such an asshole... I guess "please" makes everything all right. ALL I have attempted to do here is get SHAY PAS elected. The girl has been A) calling longer than I have, and B) obfuscating longer than I have. I kinda figured she'd be a shoo win. Excuse me. Forget I nominated. Message # 2013. Date: 02/21/95. Time: 15:37:16. Read 32 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : OBFUSCATED STUFF BY ANN OTHERWORLD FROM THE TAVERN Message # 549. Date: 11/26/94. Time: 22:15:03. Read 60 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : all Subj : belladonna backwash PERMIFIED I feel I must warn you of the strange effects of Belladonna Backwash. I was stressing and decided to try to unwind in the Tavern. It was hard as Falco was in a funk of sorts. He argued with me over my selection and kept pushing the Three Mile long island tee. I finally got him to give me a double BB with a seltzer water chaser. I didn't get the results I was seeking, so I ordered a triple. Tipple tipple after the triple. I staggered over to a booth and slid into slouch position and watched primordial forms undulate around the room. I watched my life play out in 5 different versions, and none of them made sense. Something's missing. I ordered two triples and slurpped them down in record time. Everything was blurred and bluetiful. I spun my circuits until they were a perfect whirr of purr. I was humming a few bars of Route 66 when this trucker type walked in and started humming with me. He kept calling me his BellaDonna and wanted to impress me with his large linguini. Seen one you've seen em all, I told him. That got him started about his unsually long salami. I told him that I may be a little sedated, but that I know come-on talk when I hear it and that his was the Worst. That got him started about the size of his liverwerst. I burst his bubble when I pulled down his pants and discovered his vienna sausage. Glad to be alone again, I switched to a gin conncotion and watched an auction on the Home Shopping Channel. Just when I was dialing in to purchase The Art of Self massage, some cool dandy approached me and asked if he could rub me the right way. That was the wrong thing to say. I had to practically kick Falco's ass to get him to throw Jim Dandy out. Falco and I fumed at each other for awhile and then I ordered an other triple BB. Wheee, it was fun this time. I remember leaping up onto the bar and pirouetting around, then running to the stage and announcing over the microphone that I had just won the Dialated Puplil Award and that I was the Bella Donna of the Ball. I started wailing, Some day my prince will come and just then Falco walked up and he had this mad twinkle in his eye and looked at me in that way. I surpressed the laughter bubbling up and held my features in calm composure. I told him that I just been impregnated during an abduction and I was about to give birth to an illegal alien and that I'm scared to death due to the passage of 187. Falco actually offered to marry me and said he'd be a good father to the little half alien child I was carrying. I was so shocked I fainted and I just came to. The tavern is empty and I am too. Time to go home. Just watch that BB. a.o. MOVED FROM "THE TAVERN" BY HACK MAN ON 11/29/94 AT 00:45:13 Message # 592. Date: 02/18/95. Time: 13:37:47. Read 32 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Buzz Czar Subj : lonesome blues and different hues of green PERMIFIED It's a weird but wonderful experience sitting here alone in FalCO's, watching the walls and ceiling move. I like random-patterned cottage cheese ceilings as they move better under intense gazing. I just sauntered over to the Lotus jukebox and slipped in a slug. He's still screaming, but shit, I'll pretend I'm drinking tequila and salt the sucker. Now I've gummed up the works and the box is stuck on one song and I'd like to shoot whoever planted it in there because I hate it so much. Why Em Cee A. This is too much. Pull goes the plug. It's so quiet. It sounds as if the whole world just shut down. If pins were dropping, they'd deafen me. I'm suddenly hungry for noise. A big bang might be cool, but that's overtheorized. In the big inning. Big deal. Two astronauts land in a lush garden and eat a magic mushroom and the whole race has been tripping ever since. Ever wonder why people sometimes don't know whether they're dead or alive or awake or dreaming? We're under the spell of the spore addicts and the good news is that it's ending. Then the true new aquarian age can begin and the world can spin off her axis for all I care. I like a good bumpy ride. Makes me feel alive. So what am I doing on a sunny winter Saturday afternoon sucking down suds in a Tavern? I could be basking my scared and scary bod on the beach but someone would call animal control and tell them there's a dead anorexic seal on the sand and I'd have to go through the humiliation of standing up and answering questions. Nah, I'll stay where I am where it's safe and secure. If I've passed out and am snoring in a back bench, wake me gently, please. AO Message # 50353. Reply to #50344 Date: 09/04/94. Time: 22:57:22. Read 37 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Number Two Subj : The dangers of taffeta comforters that fall to the floor RECEIVED PERMIFIED No, you don't have to ask me why I have it. Aren't you relieved?? Too bad, I'm going to tell you anyway. About 2 months ago, I started getting double vision in my third eye. It was annoying, but I was just getting used to it when the snow began to flicker. It was driving me nuts. My visions were so out of kilter and distorted, that I was reading them wrong and getting myself into a lot of trouble. I called my Psychic Friend and begged for a reading. She told me that beings from the nth dimension were terrified that I was going to tell the secret future of the universe, that they invented a device that could zap my third eye from vast dimensions away. She went on to say that if I crawled up the trail to Latigo Canyon on my belly like a reptile and yodeled in three octaves at once, that I would be led by a common garter snake to the Hut of His Most Holy. I sagely followed her advice and went through the ordeal. Once granted entry to the Hut of His Most Holy, I found a skinny old paranoid schizophrenic who mutely handed me a tube of CapzaSIN-P, which is pure creme of cayenne pepper. He mimed that I should rub it on my third eye. The second it touched my skin the picture cleared and looked just like cable. Yes, I began having a cablevision and I saw Ed MacMahon fondling Madonna. I screamed and switched channels. I saw Sufis whirling and swirling so fast they burned great circles in the wheat fields o England. I switched again and saw an infomercial for a new book by Dr. Zeus called Green Eggs and Spam. That was too much to take. I was disturbed by the programming my third eye had taken on. I looked at the skinny schiz and raised my eyebrows up and down. He started laughing so madly and maniacally that I realized that this old fart was nuttier than a Snicker. I hitched a ride down the hill and thought about beating up my Psychic Friend, but then I had to realize that without her I'd still be having double visions, with snow no less. Well, that's the story of why I got this stuff in the first place. Just think, without it, I'd be in screaming mimi pain with a broken toe. I just worked on my feet for 6 grueling hours. Pain free. BTW, you can get it in the pharmacy section of Thrifty. a.o. Comments : HAHAHA=2 OBFUSCATED=23 BLAH=5000 PROMOTE ME=56 Message # 469. Date: 07/21/94. Time: 21:59:53. Read 43 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Jehan Subj : Um... RECEIVED PERMIFIED I'm a 100%er. I used to be crazy, right now I am sane, I prayed to be normal and now I complain. Woe is me. Woe is amoeba. Me be a silly soul tonight. I'm in flight, raking the sky, reeking of ether. Wheeee I see the ether bunny in a gunny sack, he's got slack and he don't look back. He must be an artist or a musician with a penchant for Listz. Come on baby, let's do the twist, he can't resist. Gotta get the gist and out of this rhymthm pattern and into another world. Pop goes the bubble. a.o. Comments : OBFUSCATED=17 Message # 2014. Reply to #2003 Date: 02/21/95. Time: 15:38:11. Read 33 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Obfuscates/Stranger/Mojo IV Subj : SHAY PAS RECEIVED EVERYONE IS ENCOURAGED TO POST LIKE CRAZY UNLESS THEY ARE POSTING PERSONAL ATTACKS. YOU CAN EVEN POST "SHUT UP" IF YOU WANT. HOWEVER, AT THE SAME TIME NOBODY IS OBLIGATED TO LISTEN TO ANYBODY ELSE, AND THEY CAN CONTINUE TO DO THEIR OWN THING IN SPITE OF CRITICISM. C- - - Message # 2015. Reply to #2012 Date: 02/21/95. Time: 17:49:06. Read 25 Times. From : Stranger To : Obfuscates/Stranger/Mojo IV Subj : SHAY PAS RECEIVED There are traditions that will never be broken, and one of them is the laid back style of the Obfuscates. Let it happen and it will, or force the issue into nonexistance. Stranger Message # 2016. Reply to #2015 Date: 02/21/95. Time: 23:19:54. Read 26 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Obfuscates/Mojo IV/Stranger Subj : SHAY PAS RECEIVED Scuse me. Message # 2017. Reply to #2014 Date: 02/22/95. Time: 01:52:58. Read 30 Times. From : Unka Buck To : Obfuscates/Stranger/Mojo IV/HACK MAN Subj : SHAY PAS RECEIVED Okay then, shut up. --==UNKA BUCK==-- --==OBFUSCATE==-- You said I could! Message # 2018. Reply to #2017 Date: 02/23/95. Time: 10:37:55. Read 25 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Obfuscates/Stranger/Mojo IV/HACK MAN/Unka Buck Subj : SHAY PAS RECEIVED DID YOU SAY SOMETHING? :) C- - - Message # 2019. Reply to #2018 Date: 02/24/95. Time: 01:51:30. Read 31 Times. From : Unka Buck To : Obfuscates/Stranger/Mojo IV/Unka Buck/HACK MAN Subj : SHAY PAS RECEIVED Who? Me? No way! I didn't say anything. No way, it was me. --==Please select appropriate alibi==-- 1. I was out of town and I can prove it. b) I never left my house that weekend, and that's the truth. III This is all part of a conspiracy meant to shut me up because I gnow too many embarrassing things about certain influental people. --==UNKA BUCK==-- --==OBFUSCATE==-- Comments : HAHAHA=1 Message # 2020. Date: 03/05/95. Time: 23:47:54. Read 35 Times. From : Shay Pas To : all Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles let me process this. does anyone care to fodder the blender?? Shay Pas (i guess) #2020. Message # 2021. Reply to #2020 Date: 03/06/95. Time: 03:21:23. Read 31 Times. From : Unka Buck To : Shay Pas Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED Hey, I haven't foddered anything! I was out of town that weekend. Besides, I used protection, even though she assured me she was on the pill. --==UNKA BUCK==-- --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 2022. Reply to #2020 Date: 03/06/95. Time: 10:45:57. Read 26 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Shay Pas Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED HIYA, Kidsto. What's up? Welcome to the wonderful world of Communist Conspiracies. I'm your host, Vladamir Von HeOfTheBlanketMarvel. You'll notice to the left of you an large big Toe. That's god. Don't worship it, it smells. To the right, you'll see the remains of Caffeine Fiend's effigy, which we burned last night. Shoulda been there, was a blast. =>Mojo IV<= -=- OBFUSCATE -=- -=SQuishy BOgSLug=- Message # 2023. Reply to #2021 Date: 03/06/95. Time: 16:47:20. Read 22 Times. From : Shay Pas To : Unka Buck Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED well then, tis very well that your presence rather than other things foddered the blender... Message # 2024. Reply to #2022 Date: 03/06/95. Time: 16:49:00. Read 23 Times. From : Shay Pas To : Mojo IV Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED so we are the jamm of big toe effigies. ok i'm getting there. Shay Pas (what there is where i would get i'm still figuring) Message # 2025. Reply to #2020 Date: 03/06/95. Time: 20:27:06. Read 25 Times. From : Mikester To : Shay Pas Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED The executive washroom is to your right. To your left, you'll see the lounge. Above, you see monkeys. Below, you see the vast bubbling BOg. Here's the key. If you're the last one out, please lock up. --M. Message # 2026. Reply to #2025 Date: 03/06/95. Time: 23:09:10. Read 30 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Mikester Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED Ugh. Y'know, there's just ONE washroom. And its full of urinals. Well... uhhh... hmmmmmm... that's... uhhhhh... awfully embarrasing... someone might think we were a... uhhhh... men only club or something. Okay, get rid of the bathroom. Its sexist. Just hold it till you get to Pneumatic Roos. =>Mojo IV<= -=- OBFUSCATE -=- -=SQuishy BOgSLug=- Message # 2027. Reply to #2020 Date: 03/07/95. Time: 00:30:42. Read 22 Times. From : Ghost To : Shay Pas Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED Be careful not to fodder us too closely. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear. Comments : HAHAHA=17 Message # 2028. Reply to #2026 Date: 03/07/95. Time: 19:41:52. Read 38 Times. From : Mikester To : Mojo IV Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED Imagine how embarrassed I was when I discovered I was drinking from the bidet. --M. Comments : DOINK=1 Message # 2030. Reply to #200 Date: 03/10/95. Time: 01:00:51. Read 28 Times. From : Shay Pas To : Lynx Subj : Gav's one-sided holy war... RECEIVED i am extremely amused at present. thankee. Shay Pas (Read 258 times.) one of the more funn fears is the fear of ourselves. #2030. Message # 2031. Reply to #2030 Date: 03/12/95. Time: 19:48:30. Read 25 Times. From : Lynx To : Shay Pas Subj : Gav's one-sided holy war... RECEIVED Note: Candy does not equal candy. Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- p.s. they are two very different beings. Message # 2032. Reply to #2031 Date: 03/13/95. Time: 17:26:00. Read 24 Times. From : Shay Pas To : Lynx Subj : Gav's one-sided holy war... RECEIVED ah thankee for that very important distinction...oy vey Shay Pas (wondered why Candy is imaginary when the Lady is pokable) Message # 2033. Reply to #2031 Date: 03/15/95. Time: 15:09:22. Read 23 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Lynx Subj : Gav's one-sided holy war... RECEIVED BAD NEWS. CANDY IS NO LONGER IMAGINARY. SHE FINALLY MANAGED TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD REALITY AND SHE CALLS THE BBS UNDER A PSEUDONYM. C- - - Message # 2034. Reply to #2033 Date: 03/16/95. Time: 03:05:58. Read 22 Times. From : Unka Buck To : HACK MAN Subj : Gav's one-sided holy war... RECEIVED Gee, I didn't even recognize her. I hope I didn't offend you candy. UB Message # 2035. Reply to #2028 Date: 03/19/95. Time: 10:29:40. Read 25 Times. From : Number Two To : Mikester Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED feel so small Message # 2036. Date: 03/19/95. Time: 10:30:33. Read 23 Times. From : Number Two To : Shay Pas Subj : Lullaby RECEIVED Here I am furniture withstanding....... just like the kill on fire Message # 2037. Reply to #2036 Date: 03/19/95. Time: 19:24:55. Read 23 Times. From : Shay Pas To : Number Two Subj : Lullaby RECEIVED and the kid understood. furniture withstanding..... went sleepysleep the visions of other kids baabaa fire dancing already rearranging the purple shapes behind his eyelids. raffi ain't got nuthin on ya, two Message # 2038. Reply to #2037 Date: 03/21/95. Time: 00:33:09. Read 24 Times. From : Number Two To : Shay Pas Subj : Lullaby RECEIVED I'm light blue, ragged, and beddybye eyed....... Kelloggs tells me what to eat, but I wont listen. Citrus poopyseed muffins, or else cold pizza boycott out the breakspiritfast cereals. Water and chromium to top it of and my nerves settle down for the days boring neccesities. Later, twinkie-headed, I ramble about nothin' and say hello to french girls "hello" Your Pal 2 Message # 2039. Date: 04/03/95. Time: 23:35:46. Read 34 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : STUFF BASED ON HER CURRENT AND RECENT LEVEL OF ENERGETIC OBFUSCATION I WOULD LIKE TO AGAIN NOMINATE ANN OTHERWORLD FOR OBFUSCATE STATUS. C- - - Message # 2040. Reply to #2039 Date: 04/04/95. Time: 08:46:34. Read 32 Times. From : Longshot To : HACK MAN Subj : STUFF RECEIVED Ach! No! I 'd never g nominate h er in a th ousand sec onds!!!!!! #2040. Message # 2041. Reply to #2040 Date: 04/04/95. Time: 11:49:59. Read 28 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Longshot Subj : STUFF RECEIVED WHY? C- - - Message # 2042. Reply to #2041 Date: 04/04/95. Time: 13:08:52. Read 36 Times. From : Longshot To : HACK MAN Subj : STUFF RECEIVED Ummmm... She refused my sexual advances? :) Comments : RASPBERRYS=57 Message # 2043. Reply to #2042 Date: 04/04/95. Time: 13:09:08. Read 24 Times. From : Longshot To : Longshot Subj : STUFF RECEIVED That was a JOKE!!! Comments : RASPBERRYS=57 Message # 2045. Reply to #2042 Date: 04/04/95. Time: 13:37:25. Read 28 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Longshot Subj : STUFF RECEIVED JOIN THE CLUB. :) C- - - Message # 2046. Reply to #2039 Date: 04/04/95. Time: 20:27:29. Read 27 Times. From : Mikester To : HACK MAN Subj : STUFF RECEIVED I don't not agree. That is, I am adverse to saying no. That is to say, I don't think it is a disagreeable idea. Or, it could also be said that I feel that at this particular stage of the history of the Retreat that the making of ANN OTHERWORLD an official Obfuscate would be something that would not be in the worst possible interest for all concerned, and would be, I do so believe, not a small benefit to the other Obfuscates, and my final absolute answer to you is that ANN OTHERWORLD should, in fact, be denied her chance at not being an Obfuscate. I hope I'm perfectly clear on this matter. --M. Message # 2047. Reply to #2039 Date: 04/05/95. Time: 02:23:28. Read 27 Times. From : Unka Buck To : HACK MAN Subj : STUFF RECEIVED I will ceertainly "Q" that, but I seem to remember her declining the honor. Shall we thrust it upon her? --==UNKA BUCK==-- --==OBFUSCATE==-- Message # 2048. Reply to #2047 Date: 04/05/95. Time: 09:34:48. Read 25 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Unka Buck Subj : STUFF RECEIVED WHY OF COURSE. ONE OF THE ORIGINAL IDEAS WAS THAT IF YOU WANT IT YOU CAN'T HAVE IT RIGHT? SO IF YOU DON'T WANT IT IT MUST BE FORCED UPON YOU! :) C- - - Message # 2049. Reply to #2048 Date: 04/05/95. Time: 17:28:38. Read 25 Times. From : Longshot To : HACK MAN Subj : STUFF RECEIVED I vote YES but she has to dance with Dobbs, first. Message # 2050. Reply to #2039 Date: 04/05/95. Time: 18:15:14. Read 29 Times. From : The Necromancer To : HACK MAN Subj : STUFF RECEIVED Hmmm... Does withdrawal-induced insanity count? #2050. Message # 2051. Reply to #2042 Date: 04/05/95. Time: 18:15:53. Read 30 Times. From : The Necromancer To : Longshot Subj : STUFF RECEIVED So did I... Message # 2052. Reply to #2051 Date: 04/09/95. Time: 04:58:10. Read 27 Times. From : Number Two To : The Necromancer Subj : STUFF RECEIVED he might be luckier with me (it's the beard, it's hungry) Message # 2053. Reply to #2052 Date: 04/09/95. Time: 04:58:41. Read 21 Times. From : Number Two To : Number Two Subj : STUFF RECEIVED Then again......... Message # 2054. Reply to #2046 Date: 04/09/95. Time: 04:59:17. Read 20 Times. From : Number Two To : Mikester Subj : STUFF RECEIVED straight through to my skull rogerwilcooverandout Message # 2055. Date: 04/09/95. Time: 05:00:50. Read 23 Times. From : Number Two To : all Subj : Obfuscate Status Ummm if we're going to keep this a "boy's" club, we better stop letting in as many girls...... Message # 2056. Reply to #2055 Date: 04/09/95. Time: 11:53:50. Read 25 Times. From : The Necromancer To : Number Two Subj : Obfuscate Status RECEIVED But if we want it to be a Men's club, we need more girls. preferable dressed as bunnies and french maids and stuff. Plus one in Thigh-high black leater stiletto boots and a merry widow corset for me... Message # 2057. Reply to #2056 Date: 04/13/95. Time: 21:40:59. Read 24 Times. From : Number Two To : The Necromancer Subj : Obfuscate Status RECEIVED Yes, but they should get post only access, so we can look at them but they can't see us. That way we can be voyeurs, and claim that we are guarding powerful secrets and they wont know the difference. As for the fancy shmancy dress, well it will probably take a lot of convincing to get them to do it, but not really telling them why. Your Aggamemnon, Ova Comments : ARGH!=1 Message # 2058. Reply to #2057 Date: 04/14/95. Time: 18:09:05. Read 24 Times. From : The Necromancer To : Number Two Subj : Obfuscate Status RECEIVED true. Women should be obscene but not heard. Message # 2059. Reply to #2058 Date: 04/16/95. Time: 12:41:18. Read 26 Times. From : Number Two To : The Necromancer Subj : Obfuscate Status RECEIVED It's the humble opinion of my client who resembles the vague notion of myself that I have used before on occasion (mostly at parties), that we are being phased out and within a couple of years this will be an ol' "girls" club. I do so hate being marked for extinction. Be Seeing You ?? Comments : HAHAHA=1 Message # 2060. Reply to #2059 Date: 04/17/95. Time: 17:29:10. Read 25 Times. From : The Necromancer To : Number Two Subj : Obfuscate Status RECEIVED Well, I gnow this doctor in Sweden with a sharp pair of scissors and a large supply of Estrogen... #2060. Message # 2061. Date: 05/02/95. Time: 09:45:04. Read 23 Times. From : HACK MAN To : NOBODY Subj : DONE DEAL OK, IT'S BEEN 30 DAYS AND I'VE GOT 2 YESSES, A Q, AND A VOTE AGAINST NO. SO AO IS IN HERE WETHER SHE LIKES IT OR NOT! :) C- - - Message # 2062. Reply to #2061 Date: 05/02/95. Time: 11:17:07. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two To : HACK MAN Subj : DONE DEAL RECEIVED Perhaps I should have voted..... Ummmmm, wait! She's a woman! We can't let her in here!! Message # 2063. Date: 05/02/95. Time: 16:00:31. Read 27 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : all Subj : ahem!!!! Hahahahaha, even against my wishes, I am now a fucking Obfuscate. I am sitting here laughing, cracking up at all this. Ahoooooo, I'm mooning the temple and bringing a little irreverance with me. Just keep me amused and continually surprised and I'll try my best to do the same to you. Thank you all, I am truly honored. AO OBFUSCATE heheheheheheheheheheh Message # 2064. Reply to #2063 Date: 05/02/95. Time: 17:35:57. Read 30 Times. From : Number Two To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : ahem!!!! RECEIVED Yuck........a girl Message # 2065. Reply to #2064 Date: 05/02/95. Time: 18:06:16. Read 19 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Number Two Subj : ahem!!!! RECEIVED Live with it........or die. ao Message # 2066. Reply to #2050 Date: 05/02/95. Time: 18:07:51. Read 22 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : The Necromancer Subj : STUFF RECEIVED Grrrrrrrrrrl. ao Message # 2067. Reply to #2026 Date: 05/02/95. Time: 18:10:00. Read 26 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Mojo IV Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED Hey, some of us whim-in know how to pee standing up. ao Message # 2068. Reply to #1979 Date: 05/02/95. Time: 20:18:51. Read 20 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Mikester Subj : Hello! RECEIVED Ah, my revenge will be the slashing of your beloved upholstery and the gnawing of your legendary toupee. ao Message # 2069. Reply to #2063 Date: 05/03/95. Time: 00:54:25. Read 21 Times. From : Mojo IV To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : ahem!!!! RECEIVED I hereby nominate myself to be thrown into the BOg and garnished with phlegm and chutney. Message # 2071. Reply to #2067 Date: 05/03/95. Time: 00:55:57. Read 20 Times. From : Mojo IV To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED Considering the plumbing, I'd like to know how. Message # 2072. Reply to #2064 Date: 05/03/95. Time: 00:56:31. Read 25 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Number Two Subj : ahem!!!! RECEIVED She's always a woman to me. <> Comments : HAHAHA=1 Message # 2073. Reply to #2069 Date: 05/03/95. Time: 03:52:47. Read 20 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Mojo IV Subj : ahem!!!! RECEIVED YUK!!!! ao Message # 2074. Reply to #2071 Date: 05/03/95. Time: 03:53:04. Read 20 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Mojo IV Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED Ack, you're making me give away secrets. It's all in the stance...legs apart, knees bent and very careful stream guidance. It works in the woods...why not in the mens head? ao Message # 2075. Reply to #2072 Date: 05/03/95. Time: 08:08:29. Read 24 Times. From : Number Two To : Mojo IV Subj : ahem!!!! RECEIVED How about a drawrring of your bum ?? Your Pal Chutney and Basil Comments : HAHAHA=1 Message # 2076. Reply to #2074 Date: 05/03/95. Time: 10:30:49. Read 24 Times. From : Mojo IV To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED Have you ever SEEN a urinal? (well, there's lots of movies, I suppose you have)... I guess you could do it if you put your back to it... Comments : HAHAHA=1 Message # 2077. Reply to #2075 Date: 05/03/95. Time: 10:31:36. Read 19 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Number Two Subj : ahem!!!! RECEIVED I'm a drawring because I do love Brazilian nuts and 386 Toads. Message # 2078. Reply to #2076 Date: 05/03/95. Time: 11:02:34. Read 19 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Mojo IV Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED Yes I've seen a urinal. First one I saw was when I was in the third grade or so when after a Girl Scout meeting I was dared to go in the boys bathroom. Then I've never been too chosey when the line for the womens head is too long and I've had a lot of beers and I know the mens room is empty. Or, I've accidentally wandered into the wrong place. BTW, urinals are gross, especially with those deodorant cakes in the bottom of them, plus, it's much more fun sitting down. AO Message # 2079. Date: 05/03/95. Time: 13:33:39. Read 18 Times. From : Mikester To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : ANN RECEIVED Gadzooks! Who let YOU in? Oh, I voted for you, didn't I? Ah, well. :) --M. Message # 2080. Reply to #2079 Date: 05/03/95. Time: 15:59:38. Read 21 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Mikester Subj : ANN RECEIVED Not the first time you didn't. But, you came around, so I now withdraw my threats to slash your apholstery and mutilate your toupee. BTW, I am enjoying my last of the first run issue of WoodEye. I was in Ventura today, just tripping around Main Street, being perfectly annonymous. HA! I went into this store called Ooga or Booga or maybe both, just on a feeling, and not only ran into a girl who is close friends with a guy from my past whom I've been dying to find again...thinking he was still at BYU...and got his phone number...annother Dr. Know alumnus and also the guy who had the band Voice Text which Gilbert Hernandez of L & R played in. Whew. The guy working there, Jeff, after I was in there for about 10 minutes, starts looking at me through squinted eyes and then asked me my name. He yells, I knew it, I'm good friends with Angelique and she keeps telling the story about the time she, you and Mark Fisher went to Althea Flynt's and had that crazy time. Yikes! That was in '82. And it's still being talked about. ACK! Then stopped at Ralph's, scored WoodEye and then headed to Record Outlet to score some tapes for the friend I was with. I find this free magazine that has all these old Nardcore flyers in it, of which I have originals, find a story on Stalag 13 from Dave Cassilla's viewpoint, which sucked, and got the news that a Stalag CD was just released and I'm freaking because all the songs are Blake's and I'm dying to tell him what's up...then I see this headline and it has the nerve to remind me of my estranged son...it screamed brandon cruz and then had something about the origin of the word nardcore. The guys in the store knew who I was, too. Spooky. I just want to be anonymous! Well, in the Daily Grunt I was. Some real dick was behind the counter and he was so offensive I wouldn't spend my money there. Wound up grousing to my friend how I didn't like the vibes in the place and what was with that coffee flavoring and why didn't they have nonfat & sugar free pastries or such, when it's made known that the guy right behind me is the owner. Haha, made no friends there. Wow, let me in the Temple and I sure do go on. Ao #2080. Message # 2081. Reply to #2063 Date: 05/03/95. Time: 22:55:01. Read 19 Times. From : Shay Pas To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : ahem!!!! RECEIVED heehee congrats. how funny hmmm why? dunno but it's cute. Message # 2082. Reply to #2081 Date: 05/04/95. Time: 01:15:42. Read 22 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Shay Pas Subj : ahem!!!! RECEIVED Thanks...we've shaken up the status quo and some of the good old boys are holding their weenies. ao Message # 2083. Reply to #2082 Date: 05/04/95. Time: 11:58:22. Read 21 Times. From : Mojo IV To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : ahem!!!! RECEIVED Well, you could hold them for us if you like. :):):):) <> Message # 2084. Reply to #2083 Date: 05/04/95. Time: 12:02:08. Read 20 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Mojo IV Subj : ahem!!!! RECEIVED Why would I hit you when I could um, er, crack yer nuts! hahahaaha ao Comments : BRAVO!=1 Message # 2085. Reply to #2084 Date: 05/04/95. Time: 15:49:16. Read 19 Times. From : Mojo IV To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : ahem!!!! RECEIVED <> RUN AWAY!!! RUN AWAY!!! <> Message # 2086. Reply to #2085 Date: 05/04/95. Time: 18:18:57. Read 18 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Mojo IV Subj : ahem!!!! RECEIVED Hahahaha...and to think I posted that before our phone conversation. Ouch. ao Message # 2087. Reply to #2080 Date: 05/04/95. Time: 21:51:59. Read 18 Times. From : Mikester To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : ANN RECEIVED You are...the best gosh darn ANN OTHERWORLD I have ever met! :) --M. Message # 2088. Reply to #2082 Date: 05/04/95. Time: 21:52:45. Read 20 Times. From : Mikester To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : ahem!!!! RECEIVED I wag my weenie in the wind and whistle songs by Weezer. --M. Message # 2089. Reply to #2087 Date: 05/05/95. Time: 04:54:33. Read 16 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Mikester Subj : ANN RECEIVED Yikes! ao Message # 2090. Reply to #2088 Date: 05/05/95. Time: 04:55:51. Read 18 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Mikester Subj : ahem!!!! RECEIVED It's too early for me to be cracking up loudly in my room...not even 5 am. My neighbors are sleeping, hopefully. ao #2090. Message # 2091. Reply to #2080 Date: 05/05/95. Time: 15:07:28. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : ANN RECEIVED I don't like the vibes in the Daily Grind, either. Too much caffeine in the air or something... Stranger Message # 2092. Reply to #2091 Date: 05/05/95. Time: 15:38:49. Read 14 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Stranger Subj : ANN RECEIVED Great minds, eh? ao Message # 2093. Reply to #2076 Date: 05/08/95. Time: 09:51:27. Read 18 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Mojo IV Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED Your question about my ever seeing a urinal was post apropos yesterday at the park. My oldest grandson yelped that he needed to poop and he raced off like the wind to the head. The youngest started screaming, Sir, Sir and I thought I heard something about someone teasing Darren in the mens room and I'm ready to kill as I tore to the bathroom. I discovered that the poor kid had a horrible accident and I won't gross you out with details, but I had to go in and help him clean up the ungodly. I'm squatted down, he's got his pants in his hands and all of a sudden I realize we're not alone. Shit. Hahaha, for sure. I tell Darren to put back on his shorts and it was with scarlet cheeks that I walked past a man whizzing away in the urinal and past two men with their jaws hanging open. Most horrific! AO Comments : HAHAHA=1 Message # 2094. Reply to #2093 Date: 05/08/95. Time: 12:53:33. Read 21 Times. From : Number Two To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED Did you look HARD ?? hehe Your Pal 2 Message # 2095. Reply to #2094 Date: 05/08/95. Time: 13:07:04. Read 20 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Number Two Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED Are you kidding??? I was mortified. AO Message # 2096. Reply to #2067 Date: 05/15/95. Time: 20:18:21. Read 23 Times. From : The Necromancer To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED My mom can pee standing up, and can even write her name in the snow. She had an operation... Message # 2097. Reply to #2076 Date: 05/15/95. Time: 20:19:40. Read 21 Times. From : The Necromancer To : Mojo IV Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED Did you ever see the album cover of Foriegner's "Head Games"? Message # 2098. Reply to #2097 Date: 05/15/95. Time: 20:36:10. Read 20 Times. From : Mikester To : The Necromancer Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED Wait...are you telling me that's ANN OTHERWORLD on the cover of "Head Games?" I thought ANN was a redhead. (ANN was on the cover of "Sgt. Pepper," though. She was one of the faces that was painted over before the album was released. ANN was also responsible for the infamous Beatles "butcher" cover. But don't tell her I told you.) --M. Message # 2099. Reply to #2096 Date: 05/15/95. Time: 21:02:28. Read 22 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : The Necromancer Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED Does she make you call her dad now? AO Message # 2100. Reply to #2098 Date: 05/15/95. Time: 21:03:22. Read 16 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Mikester Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED I can't believe my secrets are spilling out like this. This has a sort of synchronous link to the song I'm in the middle of writing called "Cold Day In Hell" and it's about how suddenly all those utterances of "it'll be a cold day in hell when I ever drink too much again" and one part of the song...sort of James and Leonard Cohen influenced...goes Living those nevers, living those nevers, living those nevers again. Now that I've typed this, it really has no link, except that the song goes into secrets that leak and toilets that don't flush and how a royal flush is ahead of its time. AO #2100. Message # 2101. Reply to #2099 Date: 05/16/95. Time: 18:17:38. Read 21 Times. From : The Necromancer To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED Why should I call her dad? Is her dad ill? Message # 2102. Reply to #2101 Date: 05/16/95. Time: 19:33:29. Read 20 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : The Necromancer Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED Quit trying to steer away from the point. Did she or didn't she have a sex change???? AO Message # 2103. Reply to #2102 Date: 05/17/95. Time: 18:10:05. Read 19 Times. From : The Necromancer To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED No, she still has it the same way. (I guess) (it IS my mom, after all). Message # 2104. Reply to #2103 Date: 05/17/95. Time: 20:33:58. Read 16 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : The Necromancer Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED Please, take time out to keep hitting D until you see what I'm talking about.. it will be clear why I came to the concusion I did. :>>> AO Message # 2106. Reply to #2104 Date: 05/18/95. Time: 18:10:46. Read 16 Times. From : The Necromancer To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED I'm just being infuriatingly frustrating. Go with your strengths, I always say, and it is an area in which I excel. I know why you are asking; I ain't as dumb as Heartfrost looks. Message # 2107. Reply to #2106 Date: 05/18/95. Time: 19:21:28. Read 17 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : The Necromancer Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED Frustrating?? No, how about obstinate? AO Message # 2108. Reply to #2107 Date: 05/19/95. Time: 19:25:40. Read 17 Times. From : The Necromancer To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED The two concepts are not nessesarily mutually exclusive... Message # 2109. Reply to #2108 Date: 05/19/95. Time: 19:35:30. Read 15 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : The Necromancer Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED Prickly??? hahahahaha, I just got it myself. AO Message # 2110. Reply to #2109 Date: 05/20/95. Time: 11:50:42. Read 15 Times. From : The Necromancer To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED ? #2110. Message # 2111. Reply to #2110 Date: 05/20/95. Time: 13:43:02. Read 14 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : The Necromancer Subj : "dillusion" reminds me of pickles RECEIVED Sometimes you are most slow. But, then again, maybe I'm displaying some female bathroom humor and you haven't hung out with us long enough to get it. Don't worry, there is hope for you. Tonight I will teach you the art of sensuous dressing and how to put on pantyhose correctly. You're doing just fine with the bra and garter belt and your makeup is looking less-whorish. Yep, you'll be just fine. AO Message # 2112. Reply to #2090 Date: 05/22/95. Time: 14:56:55. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : ahem!!!! RECEIVED MIDNIGHT AND THE KITTIES ARE SLEEPING. C- - - Message # 2113. Reply to #2112 Date: 05/22/95. Time: 16:18:41. Read 16 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : HACK MAN Subj : ahem!!!! RECEIVED Hahaha. AO Message # 2114. Reply to #579 Date: 05/25/95. Time: 13:58:48. Read 20 Times. From : Dr. Van Van Mojo IV To : Racer X Subj : Current Issues Hmmm... he's made the place bright and cheery... something you never managed to do... Message # 2115. Reply to #1213 Date: 05/25/95. Time: 14:02:47. Read 16 Times. From : Dr. Van Van Mojo IV To : Gravebuster Subj : Nominations, Commendations, Formulae and the Weird Board But he's Stranger, and that's okay. If he were mish-mashing a long string of frontal lobe bending fractalized thoughts (in Denver), then I'd be worried. But on the subject, he's not at all bad. I think its fine time(granulated time) he be made an Honorary Mollusk, but only if he kicks the horrible turtle, its giving me the Willies. (the Willies of Cleveland, no less) Message # 2116. Reply to #1224 Date: 05/25/95. Time: 14:05:17. Read 12 Times. From : Dr. Van Van Mojo IV To : Stranger Subj : Ghost for Obfuscate RECEIVED Secret ballots are for Dry-wallers. Message # 2117. Reply to #1229 Date: 05/25/95. Time: 14:06:07. Read 12 Times. From : Dr. Van Van Mojo IV To : Gravebuster Subj : Violence I killed my mother. It was fun, and it only took me two easy strokes with a bread knife. 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Comments : HAHAHA=1 Message # 2118. Reply to #1237 Date: 05/25/95. Time: 14:12:04. Read 12 Times. From : Dr. Van Van Mojo IV To : Gravebuster Subj : Amoral Obfuscation Farrago... Farrago... that marvelous town... Message # 2119. Reply to #1358 Date: 05/25/95. Time: 14:13:15. Read 20 Times. From : Dr. Van Van Mojo IV To : Stranger Subj : jhhjfydcfyhtg, RECEIVED I hereby gnominate Stranger for Obfuscate. Any takers? Message # 2120. Reply to #1421 Date: 05/25/95. Time: 14:15:08. Read 15 Times. From : Dr. Van Van Mojo IV To : Ghost Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED How DARE you!!!! Everyone knows my keyboard is slime free!!! #2120. Message # 2121. Reply to #1476 Date: 05/25/95. Time: 14:18:05. Read 15 Times. From : Dr. Van Van Mojo IV To : Stranger Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED I did some War Stakes... but War Posts? Message # 2122. Reply to #1483 Date: 05/25/95. Time: 14:19:53. Read 13 Times. From : Dr. Van Van Mojo IV To : STRANGER/ARWEN UNDOMIEL/HACK MAN Subj : NOW NOW RECEIVED No, I'm wet BETWEEN the ears. Message # 2123. Reply to #2114 Date: 05/25/95. Time: 15:11:46. Read 13 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Dr. Van Van Mojo IV Subj : Current Issues RECEIVED I agree!!! AO Message # 2124. Reply to #2119 Date: 05/25/95. Time: 15:13:02. Read 14 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Dr. Van Van Mojo IV Subj : jhhjfydcfyhtg, RECEIVED He has my vote! Will this make him the first double obfuscate? AO Message # 2125. Reply to #2124 Date: 05/25/95. Time: 15:27:24. Read 14 Times. From : Dr. Van Van Mojo IV To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : jhhjfydcfyhtg, RECEIVED Well, hell, can't let him get away with that: I hereby nominate Dr. Van Van Mojo IV for obfuscate. I hereby nominate All, the Bell Captain, Anonymously Yours, and Lou Cipher for obfuscate. Message # 2126. Reply to #2125 Date: 05/25/95. Time: 16:12:14. Read 18 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Dr. Van Van Mojo IV Subj : jhhjfydcfyhtg, RECEIVED Anonymously yours certainly has my vote. I'm carrying his cosmic love-child. AO Message # 2127. Reply to #2126 Date: 05/25/95. Time: 22:12:20. Read 15 Times. From : Dr. Van Van Mojo IV To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : jhhjfydcfyhtg, RECEIVED Nope, sorry, that makes you suspect. Off wiv her acryllics! Message # 2129. Reply to #2120 Date: 05/26/95. Time: 00:33:41. Read 14 Times. From : Ghost To : Dr. Van Van Mojo IV Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED If the truth squirts, slide on by. Just don't forget to squirt, Squirt. Message # 2130. Reply to #2127 Date: 05/26/95. Time: 06:00:03. Read 13 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Dr. Van Van Mojo IV Subj : jhhjfydcfyhtg, RECEIVED My nails are real, baby. Ooooh, and they're itching to scratch yer eyes out. AO #2130. Message # 2131. Reply to #2119 Date: 05/27/95. Time: 13:34:00. Read 19 Times. From : Stranger To : Dr. Van Van Mojo IV Subj : jhhjfydcfyhtg, RECEIVED I vote no. Stranger Message # 2132. Reply to #2126 Date: 05/27/95. Time: 20:53:02. Read 14 Times. From : Number Two To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : jhhjfydcfyhtg, RECEIVED Wow, have you told him yet ?? Your Pal 2 Message # 2133. Reply to #2132 Date: 05/28/95. Time: 00:32:23. Read 13 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Number Two Subj : jhhjfydcfyhtg, RECEIVED No, I don't dare. He might make me lie down next to a black hole and have a cosmic abortion. AO Message # 2134. Reply to #2131 Date: 05/29/95. Time: 18:48:17. Read 16 Times. From : Dr. Van Van Mojo IV To : Stranger Subj : jhhjfydcfyhtg, RECEIVED Who asked you?!! Message # 2135. Reply to #2032 Date: 05/30/95. Time: 23:48:16. Read 16 Times. From : Lynx To : Shay Pas Subj : Gav's one-sided holy war... RECEIVED Who's Candy? candy is imaginary Lynx Message # 2136. Reply to #2135 Date: 05/31/95. Time: 09:41:26. Read 14 Times. From : Dr. Van Van Mojo IV To : Lynx Subj : Gav's one-sided holy war... RECEIVED Lady K. :) Message # 2137. Reply to #2134 Date: 05/31/95. Time: 19:25:13. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : Dr. Van Van Mojo IV Subj : jhhjfydcfyhtg, RECEIVED God asked me. What's it to you, slugboy? Strangadoo strangadoo Message # 2138. Reply to #2137 Date: 06/01/95. Time: 11:05:01. Read 19 Times. From : Dr. Van Van Mojo IV To : Stranger Subj : jhhjfydcfyhtg, RECEIVED There is no God. There is only Howard Cosell!!! Message # 2139. Reply to #2138 Date: 06/01/95. Time: 11:39:09. Read 18 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Dr. Van Van Mojo IV Subj : jhhjfydcfyhtg, RECEIVED No, no, it's Soupy Sales. AO Message # 2140. Reply to #2138 Date: 06/01/95. Time: 18:18:32. Read 23 Times. From : The Necromancer To : Dr. Van Van Mojo IV Subj : jhhjfydcfyhtg, RECEIVED Does that mean God is dead? #2140. Message # 2141. Reply to #2139 Date: 06/01/95. Time: 18:18:53. Read 17 Times. From : The Necromancer To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : jhhjfydcfyhtg, RECEIVED I LOVE WHITE FANG! Message # 2142. Reply to #2140 Date: 06/02/95. Time: 08:33:59. Read 17 Times. From : Dr. Van Van Mojo IV To : The Necromancer Subj : jhhjfydcfyhtg, RECEIVED And no-one cares. Message # 2143. Reply to #2140 Date: 06/12/95. Time: 16:16:07. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Necromancer Subj : jhhjfydcfyhtg, RECEIVED YEAH, BUT SO AM I ON MONDAYS. DON'T WORRY WE'LL GET BETTER. C- - - Message # 2144. Reply to #2143 Date: 06/12/95. Time: 19:05:05. Read 18 Times. From : The Necromancer To : HACK MAN Subj : jhhjfydcfyhtg, RECEIVED She turned me into a newt... Message # 2145. Reply to #2144 Date: 06/12/95. Time: 19:15:12. Read 18 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : The Necromancer Subj : jhhjfydcfyhtg, RECEIVED ....like in Gingrinch? Who did, btw? AO Message # 2146. Reply to #2145 Date: 06/13/95. Time: 17:51:01. Read 17 Times. From : The Necromancer To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : jhhjfydcfyhtg, RECEIVED MONTY PYTHON REFERENCE!!!! Message # 2147. Reply to #2144 Date: 06/14/95. Time: 08:37:28. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Necromancer Subj : jhhjfydcfyhtg, RECEIVED A 5'16" NEWT WITH A BEARD? WONDERBAR. NOW I FINALLY GNOW WHAT YOU ARE. C- - - Message # 2149. Date: 06/27/95. Time: 20:55:17. Read 19 Times. From : Dr. Van Van Mojo IV To : All Subj : ULTIMA 7 PART 3.14_ What is thy bidding? > Enter - Temple of Dillusion The doors will not allow IOLO, SHAMINO, or LADY K to enter. Iolo says "Don't go with out us, Daniel. It looks... weird... in there!" Lady K says "Here, take my SWORD OF PROTECTING IDIOT AVATARS YOU WALK INTO TEMPLES OF DILLUSION WITHOUT THEIR PARTY." You say> WHAT ARE YOU IMPLYING? Lady K says "Nothing. Just take it." What is thy bidding? > Enter - Temple of Dillusion . . . TEMPLE OF DILLUSION Its all one big thing. PEOPLE YOU SEE: No One OBJECTS YOU SEE: One Big Thing What is thy bidding? > Look - One Big Thing Its splits in two. TEMPLE OF DILLUSION PEOPLE YOU SEE: No One OBJECTS YOU SEE: One Big Thing, Another Big Thing What is thy bidding? > Scratch - Genitals It feels good. What is thy bidding? > Unzip - Pants You unzip your pants What is thy bidding? > Look - Left You see no-one. What is thy bidding? > Look - Right You see no-one. What is thy bidding? > Pull - Down - Pants You pull down your pants. What is thy bidding? > Jack - Off It feels very, very good. What is thy bidding? > Pull - Up - Pants You pull up your pants. What is thy bidding? > Zip - Pants You zip your pants. You notice a video camera. Message # 2150. Date: 07/10/95. Time: 15:53:43. Read 23 Times. From : Number Two To : all<>Mojo X-ile Subj : 2nd to go Ok, enough is enough. I am sick and tired of Dan's tantrums infecting this board and causing so much crap that everyone stops posting and ends up squabbling amongst each other for no real reason at all. I am have had it up to here (hand raised to neck) with his shit, and I will not put up with it again. Since the early days of this board, he has been nothing but a trouble maker, and if he somehow had kept his promise of not calling anymore, I for one would have thrown a party. Of course, he didn't keep it, but what do you expect really. What I am getting to is this......I want to take a vote and strip Dan of his Obfuscate status. It wont make him stop calling the board but I think it's a gesture that is desperately needed to tell him to cut his crap out, or get out. Now I realize that most of you will think this is much too severe. I do not agree. Therefore I guess it's going to have to be him or me. I just can't put up with his bullshit anymore, and I wont. Be Seeing You ?? Comments : ARGH!=11 #2150. Message # 2151. Reply to #2150 Date: 07/10/95. Time: 15:58:57. Read 27 Times. From : Number Two To : Number Two Subj : 2nd to go RECEIVED JOKE POTATO, joke's on you............ Disregard that.......sorry, my allergies have been mean to me so I felt mischevious. Your Pal 2 (luv ya dan) Message # 2153. Reply to #2151 Date: 07/10/95. Time: 20:01:24. Read 24 Times. From : Mojo X-ile To : Number Two Subj : 2nd to go RECEIVED You have NO IDEA how much I want to STRANGLE you right now. <> Comments : HAHAHA=1 Message # 2155. Reply to #2153 Date: 07/11/95. Time: 00:01:34. Read 22 Times. From : Number Two To : Mojo X-ile Subj : 2nd to go RECEIVED Oh, it must be love......... Your Pal 2 Message # 2156. Reply to #2150 Date: 07/16/95. Time: 11:34:18. Read 22 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : 2nd to go RECEIVED I vote we dip his head in melted cheese. Stranger Message # 2157. Reply to #2156 Date: 07/17/95. Time: 10:53:57. Read 21 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : 2nd to go RECEIVED Wow, you have such a way of cutting through all the unneccessary crap and finding the most equitable solution. All in favor of dipping Dan's head in melted cheese say aye. "AYE" !!! Your Pal 2 Comments : WAY!=1 Message # 2158. Reply to #2157 Date: 07/17/95. Time: 18:47:03. Read 18 Times. From : The Necromancer To : Number Two Subj : 2nd to go RECEIVED What kind of cheese? Message # 2159. Reply to #2157 Date: 07/17/95. Time: 19:02:31. Read 16 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Number Two Subj : 2nd to go RECEIVED Aye.. AO Message # 2160. Reply to #2158 Date: 07/18/95. Time: 10:08:33. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : The Necromancer Subj : 2nd to go RECEIVED I'd say Kraft...cause Dan's the cheesiest Your Pal 2 #2160. Message # 2161. Reply to #2160 Date: 07/18/95. Time: 17:22:08. Read 17 Times. From : The Necromancer To : Number Two Subj : 2nd to go RECEIVED HA! You missed you cue. The correct answer is "Head cheese, of course". Comments : WAY!=1 Message # 2163. Reply to #2161 Date: 07/19/95. Time: 00:43:17. Read 21 Times. From : Number Two To : The Necromancer Subj : 2nd to go RECEIVED too easy.......... Your Pal 2 -=OBFUSCATE=- Message # 2164. Reply to #2163 Date: 07/19/95. Time: 05:08:48. Read 15 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Number Two Subj : 2nd to go RECEIVED That's the first time I've seen anyone put obfuscate under their name in a long time.. Do I sense a trend?? AO 'fuscate Message # 2165. Reply to #2164 Date: 07/19/95. Time: 09:54:48. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : 2nd to go RECEIVED That's maybe the 3rd time I have ever done it. I don't know. For some reason I have kinda steered clear of many things Obfuscate, and not really purposefully either. Well, I purposefully do not replace my kn with gn. I don't like it so I don't do it. But the OBFUSCATE sign off, and the Obfuscatronix just never occur to me to use. I never think about it. This time it just popped into my head just as I was about to save so I threw it in there for shits and giggles. What Can You Do ?! Your Pal 2 -=OBFUSCATE=- Message # 2166. Reply to #2165 Date: 07/19/95. Time: 13:24:29. Read 16 Times. From : Shay Pas To : Number Two Subj : 2nd to go RECEIVED "shits and giggles" haha dig it heehee Message # 2167. Reply to #2166 Date: 07/19/95. Time: 14:38:39. Read 23 Times. From : Mikester To : Shay Pas Subj : 2nd to go RECEIVED Once I had "gigs and shittles," and boy, that made it one rough bar mitzvah to get through. --M. --O. Comments : HAHAHA=1 Message # 2168. Date: 07/19/95. Time: 16:51:00. Read 30 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Obfuscates Subj : THE LAST GREAT OBFUSCATION I, Mojo IV, SQuishy BOgSLug and 53rd Among Equals, Absolute Dictator of The Dimensional Nexus, and Obfuscate, hereby gnominate CAFFIENE FIEND for entrance into the Temple and Order of Obfuscation. Message # 2169. Reply to #2163 Date: 07/19/95. Time: 17:40:21. Read 19 Times. From : The Necromancer To : Number Two Subj : 2nd to go RECEIVED Sounds like my last date... Message # 2170. Reply to #2165 Date: 07/19/95. Time: 17:41:09. Read 18 Times. From : The Necromancer To : Number Two Subj : 2nd to go RECEIVED Actually, the "gn" for "kn" is a holdover from the old "Gnome's Castle". #2170. Message # 2171. Reply to #2166 Date: 07/19/95. Time: 17:42:06. Read 16 Times. From : Number Two To : Shay Pas Subj : 2nd to go RECEIVED it's da bird in me Your Pal 2 -=OBFUSCATE=- Message # 2172. Reply to #2168 Date: 07/19/95. Time: 17:42:13. Read 19 Times. From : The Necromancer To : Obfuscates/Mojo IV Subj : THE LAST GREAT OBFUSCATION RECEIVED Did he obfuscate and I missed it? Message # 2173. Reply to #2168 Date: 07/19/95. Time: 17:42:53. Read 26 Times. From : Number Two To : Obfuscates/Mojo IV Subj : THE LAST GREAT OBFUSCATION RECEIVED Denied (at least by me)..... I like him, I think he has come a long way from where he was just a year ago, but I still don't see much obfuscation in him. Of course, I could be lying Be Seeing You ?? -=OBFUSCATE=- Message # 2174. Reply to #2170 Date: 07/19/95. Time: 17:44:17. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : The Necromancer Subj : 2nd to go RECEIVED I know.... I am versed in some small amount of bbs lore, and although it originated in the Knome's Castle it has found a new home here on the Retreat and especially within the Obfuscate camp. Your Pal 2 -=OBFUSCATE=- Message # 2175. Reply to #2168 Date: 07/19/95. Time: 20:34:28. Read 20 Times. From : Mikester To : Obfuscates/Mojo IV Subj : THE LAST GREAT OBFUSCATION RECEIVED My magic hookah says, "the spirits say no." --M. Message # 2176. Reply to #2172 Date: 07/20/95. Time: 04:39:16. Read 24 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Obfuscates/Mojo IV/The Necromancer Subj : THE LAST GREAT OBFUSCATION RECEIVED No. But my gnomination stands. Message # 2177. Reply to #2173 Date: 07/20/95. Time: 04:39:32. Read 18 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Obfuscates/Mojo IV/Number Two Subj : THE LAST GREAT OBFUSCATION RECEIVED This has nothing to do with obfuscation. If anything, I am prime proof that you don't need to obfuscate to be an obfuscate. Reconsider your vote. Apply my gnomination to its proper context and NOT to the merits of the gnominated. You'll get it eventually. Message # 2178. Reply to #2175 Date: 07/20/95. Time: 04:40:43. Read 19 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Obfuscates/Mojo IV/Mikester Subj : THE LAST GREAT OBFUSCATION RECEIVED To you I say the same: Look at the Gnomination, not at the Gnominated. Message # 2179. Reply to #2165 Date: 07/20/95. Time: 05:52:42. Read 19 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Number Two Subj : 2nd to go RECEIVED Shits and giggles! Oh you happy man(iac).... ao 'ate Message # 2180. Reply to #2168 Date: 07/20/95. Time: 05:53:35. Read 20 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Obfuscates/Mojo IV Subj : THE LAST GREAT OBFUSCATION RECEIVED What??? hahahaha you're over the edge...but so is he...and so are we...whoopy cushions go off....ahooooooooooo AO #2180. Message # 2181. Reply to #2173 Date: 07/20/95. Time: 05:54:49. Read 20 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Obfuscates/Mojo IV/Number Two Subj : THE LAST GREAT OBFUSCATION RECEIVED I'm still cracking up in a strange way at how he chooses his women...for breeding! ack AO Message # 2182. Date: 07/20/95. Time: 15:41:52. Read 31 Times. From : Stranger To : all Subj : Caffeine Fiend I vote no for caffeine fiend, and since I will be gone soon, I nominate Fink Ployd for Obfuscate, vote yes on all future nominations of Fink Ployd for Obfuscate. I also nominate Jehan, and vote yes on all future nominations of Jehan. I vote no on all future nominations of everyone else. Stranger Message # 2183. Reply to #2182 Date: 07/20/95. Time: 20:22:01. Read 26 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Stranger Subj : Caffeine Fiend RECEIVED None of you get it. How sad. Message # 2184. Reply to #2182 Date: 07/20/95. Time: 20:28:58. Read 19 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Stranger Subj : Caffeine Fiend RECEIVED Ditto. AO Message # 2185. Reply to #2182 Date: 07/20/95. Time: 21:43:06. Read 28 Times. From : Mikester To : Stranger Subj : Caffeine Fiend RECEIVED I nominate everyone for Obfuscate, and I nominate everyone who is already an Obfuscate to move on to some higher plane of existence. --M. --O. Message # 2186. Reply to #2183 Date: 07/20/95. Time: 22:22:35. Read 19 Times. From : Mikester To : Mojo IV Subj : Caffeine Fiend RECEIVED I looked at your nomination again. I turned it over in my hands, feeling the texture. I still don't get what you're getting at. Assume I'm stupid. What do you mean? --M. --O. Message # 2187 -- Private. Message # 2188 -- Private. Message # 2189. Reply to #2185 Date: 07/21/95. Time: 05:12:31. Read 19 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Mikester Subj : Caffeine Fiend RECEIVED haha AO Message # 2190 -- Private. #2190. Message # 2191. Reply to #2183 Date: 07/21/95. Time: 14:18:16. Read 23 Times. From : Stranger To : Mojo IV Subj : Caffeine Fiend RECEIVED I get it all the time! It's you who seem to be without.... Stranger Message # 2192. Reply to #2191 Date: 07/21/95. Time: 16:42:13. Read 22 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Stranger Subj : Caffeine Fiend RECEIVED Obviously you're not real up-to-date on my private life. But I was referring to the gnomination. Message # 2193. Reply to #2192 Date: 07/21/95. Time: 18:55:46. Read 21 Times. From : Stranger To : Mojo IV Subj : Caffeine Fiend RECEIVED I am up to date, just cynical. :) stranger Message # 2194. Reply to #2185 Date: 07/21/95. Time: 20:33:45. Read 17 Times. From : The Necromancer To : Mikester Subj : Caffeine Fiend RECEIVED I hate climbing. Can I just have a lateral transfer to another departmnt? Message # 2195. Reply to #2186 Date: 07/21/95. Time: 20:35:48. Read 21 Times. From : The Necromancer To : Mikester Subj : Caffeine Fiend RECEIVED I'm going to assume that he's suggesting that we prove our obfuscation by making a non-obfuscatory person an obfuscate. True chaos cannot exist without a small bit of order, or somthing along those lines. Or Mojo needs to switch to the higher-cholesterol dessert topping... Message # 2196. Reply to #2195 Date: 07/21/95. Time: 22:57:51. Read 19 Times. From : Mikester To : The Necromancer Subj : Caffeine Fiend RECEIVED Everything is meaningless. Bring them up, send them down. In seventy years, none of this will matter. --M. --O. one of those days Message # 2197. Reply to #2173 Date: 07/22/95. Time: 00:17:07. Read 27 Times. From : Ghost To : Obfuscates/Mojo IV/Number Two Subj : THE LAST GREAT OBFUSCATION RECEIVED No. Message # 2198. Reply to #2182 Date: 07/22/95. Time: 00:18:22. Read 21 Times. From : Ghost To : Stranger Subj : Caffeine Fiend RECEIVED Yes for Fink Ployd. No for Jehan. Message # 2199. Reply to #2195 Date: 07/22/95. Time: 15:05:31. Read 27 Times. From : Stranger To : The Necromancer Subj : Caffeine Fiend RECEIVED But we already have Peggy/Cornmeal as the non-obfuscated Obfuscate. Stranger Message # 2200. Reply to #2199 Date: 07/23/95. Time: 12:07:47. Read 24 Times. From : The Necromancer To : Stranger Subj : Caffeine Fiend RECEIVED Well, she's a bit after and before my time. And Jehan is the Notfuscate. #2200. Message # 2202. Reply to #2151 Date: 07/25/95. Time: 12:51:54. Read 23 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Number Two Subj : 2nd to go RECEIVED OH, ANOTHER FAMOUS NUMBER TWO SNEAK ATTACK. I STILL REMEMBER THAT TIME THAT YOU RESIGNED. :) C- - - Message # 2203. Date: 07/25/95. Time: 12:53:34. Read 24 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX ANYBODY MIND IF I REVEAL THE SECRET OF OBFUSCATRONIX? I'M THINKING OF REVAMPING THE DO SOMETHING WEIRD AND THE TIP THE BELL CAPTAIN AND ONE OF THE THINGS IT MIGHT DO IS REVEAL THE SECRET CODES. IT WAS COOL FOR AWHILE TO HAVE THEM SECRET, BUT NOBODY HARDLY USES THEM ANYMORE SO IT MIGHT BE NICE TO THROW THEM OPEN (OR MOST OF THEM ANYWAY) SO THAT OTHER PEOPLE CAN USE THEM AND MAYBE BREATH A LITTLE BIT OF EXCITEMENT AND WEIRDNESS INTO THINGS. C- - - Message # 2204. Reply to #2176 Date: 07/25/95. Time: 12:56:27. Read 20 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Obfuscates/The Necromancer/Mojo IV Subj : THE LAST GREAT OBFUSCATION RECEIVED ACTUALLY I THINK RACER X NOMINATED HIM SEVERAL HUNDRED MESSAGES BACK. C- - - Message # 2205. Reply to #2185 Date: 07/25/95. Time: 12:57:49. Read 22 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Mikester Subj : Caffeine Fiend RECEIVED I SECOND THAT. C- - - Message # 2206. Date: 07/25/95. Time: 13:00:38. Read 24 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : STUFF FROM WHAT I'M SENSING OF THE CURRENT GOINGS ON, WE'VE GOT THREE NOMINEES. CAFFIENE FIEND, JEHAN, AND FINK PLOYD. GET IN YOUR VOTES IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY. THEN I'LL COUNT THEM UP. FROM MY CURSORY SCAN IT LOOKS LIKE FINK PLOYD IS WINNING AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS LOSING. C- - - Message # 2207. Reply to #2203 Date: 07/25/95. Time: 15:01:57. Read 16 Times. From : Mojo IV To : HACK MAN Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED Cool, go for it. Its your toybox, Hack! Message # 2208. Reply to #2203 Date: 07/25/95. Time: 19:17:48. Read 20 Times. From : Mikester To : HACK MAN Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED I've been thinking about going over the Obfuscatronix print-out I made and doing really annoying things. But, what I want to gnow is...how did Gav and Lynx and those other fellows do the..."animations," I guess you would call them? --M. Message # 2209. Reply to #2206 Date: 07/25/95. Time: 19:19:36. Read 19 Times. From : Mikester To : HACK MAN Subj : STUFF RECEIVED Jehan & Fink...yah. C.Fiend...nah. --M. Message # 2210. Reply to #2203 Date: 07/25/95. Time: 19:20:19. Read 18 Times. From : Mikester To : HACK MAN Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED How far to I have to Tip the Bell Captain before he falls over and reveals those secrets I've been hunting for so long? --M. #2210. Message # 2211. Reply to #2203 Date: 07/25/95. Time: 20:06:18. Read 20 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : HACK MAN Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED Ack. I looked far into the future. I saw chaos out of control. I saw screens flashing and beeping and making no sense. I say nonsense. AO Message # 2212. Reply to #2206 Date: 07/25/95. Time: 20:07:24. Read 17 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : HACK MAN Subj : STUFF RECEIVED I vote for fink and jehan AO Message # 2213. Reply to #2203 Date: 07/25/95. Time: 20:36:04. Read 17 Times. From : The Necromancer To : HACK MAN Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED I have no idea how to use the obfuscatronix, so hints would be cool. Message # 2214. Reply to #2206 Date: 07/25/95. Time: 20:36:47. Read 21 Times. From : The Necromancer To : HACK MAN Subj : STUFF RECEIVED Caff: No Fink: Yes Jehan: Sh's the notfuscate. I think we'd b doing her a dissrvice by making her an obfuscate. Message # 2215. Reply to #2211 Date: 07/25/95. Time: 22:19:25. Read 17 Times. From : Mikester To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED I think Obfuscatronix, when used properly, could be quite entertaining. I sorta miss it, and I'm out of practice. --M. Message # 2216. Reply to #2215 Date: 07/26/95. Time: 05:41:33. Read 16 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Mikester Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED I just saw everyone going nuts with them...only natural, eh? but then i saw every message going wild and then the vision showed it getting out of control and hack ruing the day he set them free. AO Message # 2217. Reply to #2202 Date: 07/26/95. Time: 17:24:04. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two To : HACK MAN Subj : 2nd to go RECEIVED I love sneakattacks !!!!! Your Pal 2 -=OBFUSCATE=- Message # 2218. Reply to #2214 Date: 07/26/95. Time: 17:26:00. Read 16 Times. From : Number Two To : The Necromancer Subj : STUFF RECEIVED I agree wholeheartedly with Neck-Lad Be Seeing You ?? -=OBFUSCATE=- Message # 2220. Reply to #2208 Date: 07/28/95. Time: 16:16:00. Read 20 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Mikester Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED UM. THEY USE AN AWFUL LOT OF LABORIOUS TYPING FOR OBFUSCATED ENDS. I THINK THEY DID IT FRAME BY FRAME WITH A CLEAR SCREEN IN BETWEEN EACH FRAME. C- - - #2220. Message # 2221. Reply to #2211 Date: 07/28/95. Time: 16:17:31. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED CHAOS HAS A TENDENCY TO BE OUT OF CONTROL. I COULD MAYBE NOT MAKE SOME OF THE MORE ANNOYING ONES AVAILABLE. C- - - Message # 2222. Reply to #2220 Date: 07/28/95. Time: 19:52:57. Read 19 Times. From : Mikester To : HACK MAN Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED That sounds extremely painful. I must try it soon. --M. Message # 2223. Reply to #2221 Date: 07/29/95. Time: 10:00:09. Read 24 Times. From : Ghost To : HACK MAN Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED Part of a definition of chaos requires that it be out of control. Message # 2225. Reply to #2223 Date: 07/29/95. Time: 11:44:31. Read 21 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Ghost Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED HEY, THIS IS THE TEMPLE OF DILLUSION. WE DON'T NEED PEOPLE CLARIFYING THE ISSUE HERE. :) C- - - Message # 2226. Reply to #2223 Date: 07/29/95. Time: 16:07:34. Read 21 Times. From : The Necromancer To : Ghost Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED Ah, but perfect chaos requires that it have a smattering of EVERYTHING. That means that, in order to have total chaos, it must have a small dollop of order. Paradoxically, if it contains order, it CANNOT be total chaos. Message # 2227. Reply to #2226 Date: 07/30/95. Time: 11:52:46. Read 19 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Necromancer Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED I DUNNO. I THINK A PLACE WITH A SMATTERING OF EVERYTHING WOULD BE DEFINED AS THE UNIVERSE. AND ALSO MY CAR. C- - - Comments : HAHAHA=11 Message # 2228. Reply to #2225 Date: 07/31/95. Time: 22:30:58. Read 18 Times. From : Ghost To : HACK MAN Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED Clarity is a chaotic accelerant. Message # 2229. Reply to #2226 Date: 07/31/95. Time: 22:31:46. Read 23 Times. From : Ghost To : The Necromancer Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED No matter the order, the delivery is chaotic. Message # 2230. Reply to #2229 Date: 08/01/95. Time: 17:43:29. Read 21 Times. From : The Necromancer To : Ghost Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED Kinda like congress, huh? #2230. Message # 2231. Reply to #2230 Date: 08/02/95. Time: 02:18:54. Read 21 Times. From : Ghost To : The Necromancer Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED Let them graze their sacred chaos however they will, so long as they milk them for the public wheal. Message # 2232. Reply to #2231 Date: 08/02/95. Time: 17:47:30. Read 21 Times. From : The Necromancer To : Ghost Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED Well, will the weal keep wheeling if we feel woe? Message # 2233. Reply to #2182 Date: 08/08/95. Time: 21:29:37. Read 18 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : Stranger Subj : Caffeine Fiend RECEIVED Well, if you're moving away, you'll be considered inactive, and thus your votes will all be considered to be "Coordinated Whooping Mangos" and sold in the Region of Thud as Christmas tree diseases. Message # 2234. Reply to #2233 Date: 08/08/95. Time: 21:47:10. Read 21 Times. From : Stranger To : The Hanged Man Subj : Caffeine Fiend RECEIVED Nopey, I'm not moving permanently.... "unactive" will take a while. besides, I have quite a scheme cooked up to continue my presence here. hee hee. I'll be a bit behind, but I wont be gone. Stranger Message # 2235. Reply to #2234 Date: 08/08/95. Time: 22:27:40. Read 19 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Stranger Subj : Caffeine Fiend RECEIVED I GNOW. HAVE SOMEBODY LOG ON AND MAKE A QWK MAIL PACKET AND PUT IT ON A FLOPPY DISK AND THEN MAIL IT TO YOU. C- - - Message # 2236. Reply to #2234 Date: 08/09/95. Time: 08:53:17. Read 18 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : Stranger Subj : Caffeine Fiend RECEIVED You'll be a Bit Behind? So, if we had 8 of you, you'd be a Byte Behind. Message # 2237. Reply to #2206 Date: 08/20/95. Time: 04:49:27. Read 19 Times. From : Lynx To : HACK MAN Subj : STUFF RECEIVED No to all three from me. Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- p.s. I'd prefer you didn't unleash the trix, but if you must at least hold back some of them for obfuscate use only... Message # 2238. Reply to #2220 Date: 08/20/95. Time: 04:52:15. Read 16 Times. From : Lynx To : HACK MAN Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED Even the creator doesn't fully understand the creations. I almost never used clear screens except at the very beginning. ;) Just a lot of curser movements and overwriting. Gav was the master, the bug message is all it takes to prove that. Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- p.s. I stopped doing them because they TAKE A LONG TIME, and I'm LD, and the QWK doesn't support it (as far as I know anyway) and I'm just lazy. Message # 2239. Reply to #2221 Date: 08/20/95. Time: 04:55:41. Read 15 Times. From : Lynx To : HACK MAN Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED Definately keep infinite repeat hidden, and the goto line/input character/test last character ones hidden.... I'd also prefer the nonfuscates didn't get the "display user info" ones or the random ones... Lynx p.s. ;) Message # 2240. Reply to #2227 Date: 08/20/95. Time: 04:58:19. Read 16 Times. From : Lynx To : HACK MAN Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED I can vouch for the car... ;) Lynx --==OBFUSCATE==-- #2240. Message # 2241. Reply to #10 Date: 08/24/95. Time: 16:46:00. Read 21 Times. From : Mojo IV To : SYSOP Subj : NEW OBFUSCATE! RECEIVED Kinda sad to see it now, huh? Message # 2242. Reply to #2232 Date: 09/02/95. Time: 00:27:14. Read 20 Times. From : Ghost To : The Necromancer Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED Woe is tree. And that is the cruce of the madder. Message # 2243. Reply to #2242 Date: 09/02/95. Time: 05:44:23. Read 19 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Ghost Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED Yahooooo, you have returned!!!!!! Welcome back. AO Message # 2244. Reply to #2243 Date: 09/02/95. Time: 10:12:55. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED He's just a phantom of his former self Your Pal 2 Message # 2245. Reply to #2243 Date: 09/03/95. Time: 05:55:02. Read 17 Times. From : Ghost To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : SPEAKING OF OBFUSCATRONIX RECEIVED Thank you. Message # 2246. Date: 09/04/95. Time: 05:12:17. Read 17 Times. From : Shay Pas To : all Subj : feefifoofum feefifoefum i smell the stench of a dumdumdum took my catchup w/o asking me shocked me s'bad i had to go pee (rahrahrah) true suspects are few no reasons are many if i catch u i'm gonna smeck you in yer fenny r&rrnomatchforpossissiveinstinct Message # 2247. Date: 09/10/95. Time: 23:38:06. Read 16 Times. From : Ghost To : Bova Nun Subj : "Mr. Wilde," said he, neatly cracking the egg and deftly removing a slice of skull with no little skill, as I saw, "This operation's additive and addictive, let us seek to control the source of such a dangerous pleasure. No more shall we allow amateurs to dabble in our mind games." A captive audience, I could only reply, "Domed if I'll argue with you. I'd rather Hyde, doctor." And stretched direly straight, I did. Message # 2248. Reply to #2247 Date: 09/11/95. Time: 06:06:47. Read 16 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Ghost Subj : RECEIVED I'm jekylling out loud as i sit at a green light idol-ing wilde. AO Message # 2249. Date: 09/12/95. Time: 12:58:11. Read 26 Times. From : Stranger To : all/Obfuscates Subj : Wow There are only 9 currently calling Obfuscates. For some reason, I thought there were hordes of them. Stranger Message # 2250. Reply to #2249 Date: 09/12/95. Time: 15:17:50. Read 18 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : all/Obfuscates/Stranger Subj : Wow RECEIVED We sometimes seem to outnumber the nonfuscates. #2250. Message # 2251. Reply to #2249 Date: 09/12/95. Time: 18:45:47. Read 16 Times. From : The Necromancer To : all/Obfuscates/Stranger Subj : Wow RECEIVED There used to be more. They were delicious. Yellowbeard was abit stringy, though... Message # 2252. Reply to #2249 Date: 09/12/95. Time: 19:34:36. Read 16 Times. From : Mikester To : all/Obfuscates/Stranger Subj : Wow RECEIVED All the other Obfuscates mysteriously...disappeared. Heh heh heh. --M. Message # 2253. Reply to #2249 Date: 09/12/95. Time: 21:27:20. Read 18 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : all/Obfuscates/Stranger Subj : Wow RECEIVED We number 9? number 9 number 9 number 9 shut up john get out of my head and leave me the fuck alone. laugh i am AO Message # 2254. Reply to #2249 Date: 09/14/95. Time: 23:31:33. Read 26 Times. From : HACK MAN To : all/Obfuscates/Stranger Subj : Wow RECEIVED NOT ANYMORE. C- - - Message # 2255. Reply to #2254 Date: 09/14/95. Time: 23:55:54. Read 28 Times. From : Stranger To : all/Obfuscates/Stranger/HACK MAN Subj : Wow RECEIVED When are we making Fink Ployd an Obfuscate? Hopefully before heleaves for college.... Stranger Message # 2256. Reply to #2255 Date: 09/15/95. Time: 00:26:37. Read 19 Times. From : HACK MAN To : all/Obfuscates/HACK MAN/Stranger Subj : Wow RECEIVED WELL, I WOULD HAVE DONE IT BEFORE YOU CALLED, BUT HE STAYS ONLINE FOREVER. C- - - Comments : HAHAHA=55 Message # 2257. Reply to #2255 Date: 09/15/95. Time: 11:10:53. Read 18 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : all/Obfuscates/HACK MAN/Stranger Subj : Wow RECEIVED You waited until AFTER I left and came back. Why not wait until after Fink Ployd's death? Message # 2258. Date: 09/15/95. Time: 11:41:04. Read 21 Times. From : Stranger To : Fink Ployd Subj : Hi Fink! RECEIVED Welcome to the Temple of Dillusion! Stranger Message # 2259. Reply to #2255 Date: 09/15/95. Time: 18:21:13. Read 20 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : all/Obfuscates/HACK MAN/Stranger Subj : Wow RECEIVED I say yes to that! AO Message # 2260. Reply to #2258 Date: 09/15/95. Time: 18:22:02. Read 19 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Stranger Subj : Hi Fink! RECEIVED Well commands have changed and i don't know them WELCOME FINK!!!!! AO #2260. Message # 2261. Date: 09/18/95. Time: 11:25:11. Read 17 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : all Subj : ob... Ob and the Obs are in statis. We ob until we canna ob no more laddy. Ob to the Ob of my sisters wet cat, and Ob uber al! Message # 2262. Date: 09/18/95. Time: 11:25:54. Read 15 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : all Subj : ...fus... What's all the fus about? Fus's on puppies and axe heads on kittens... Fus item in the list is a Fus by Shay Pas. So we fus'd her out the window. Message # 2263. Date: 09/18/95. Time: 11:27:01. Read 15 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : all Subj : ...cation. I met a Cation man once, in Denny's. He was slowly cationing the waitress with his wild Cation eyes. But you should be cationed about Cations. They have a tendancy to take va-cations from reality. Message # 2264. Reply to #2261 Date: 09/18/95. Time: 19:22:32. Read 15 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : The Hanged Man Subj : ob... RECEIVED ob to this person only means one thing... obstetrics! ack...my birthing days are over hummmm burr thing aaron is that you? Ao Message # 2265. Reply to #2263 Date: 09/18/95. Time: 19:23:51. Read 16 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : The Hanged Man Subj : ...cation. RECEIVED I like cations. Zydeco is good music. AO Message # 2266. Reply to #2265 Date: 09/19/95. Time: 11:50:22. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : ...cation. RECEIVED Cations arent as good as anions, sauteed with mushrooms and marmosets. Stranger Message # 2267. Reply to #344 Date: 09/21/95. Time: 10:16:01. Read 19 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : Gravebuster Subj : The Obfuscate's National Bank Whoever has the access to promote things in here, hit "D" and PROMOTE that post! Message # 2269. Reply to #2258 Date: 09/25/95. Time: 01:05:01. Read 17 Times. From : Fink Ployd To : Stranger Subj : Hi Fink! RECEIVED Greetings from Dillusion! Wish you were a beer. úfPú Message # 2270. Reply to #2269 Date: 09/25/95. Time: 12:28:52. Read 17 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : Fink Ployd Subj : Hi Fink! RECEIVED Close... real close... you need to learn to maximize your syllables when you obfuscate, dillude, or SQuish. #2270. Message # 2271. Reply to #2270 Date: 09/26/95. Time: 11:46:27. Read 25 Times. From : Fink Ployd To : The Hanged Man Subj : Hi Fink! RECEIVED I don't have to do anything but die... And stink up the bathroom. úfPú Message # 2272. Reply to #2271 Date: 09/26/95. Time: 21:04:12. Read 22 Times. From : Shay Pas To : Fink Ployd Subj : Hi Fink! RECEIVED right-o! simulataneously would be convenient outina big f'rrt Message # 2273. Date: 09/28/95. Time: 22:39:22. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : all Subj : To DILLUDE or not to DILLUDE That is the elephant. Stranger Message # 2274. Reply to #2272 Date: 09/29/95. Time: 02:32:43. Read 14 Times. From : Fink Ployd To : Shay Pas Subj : Hi Fink! RECEIVED That's the beautiful thing about death. You get so much done. úfPú Message # 2275. Reply to #2273 Date: 09/29/95. Time: 05:53:19. Read 14 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Stranger Subj : To DILLUDE or not to DILLUDE RECEIVED These are the tusks. AO Message # 2276. Reply to #2273 Date: 09/29/95. Time: 08:39:07. Read 13 Times. From : The Hanged Man To : Stranger Subj : To DILLUDE or not to DILLUDE RECEIVED Whether tis SQuishier. Message # 2277. Reply to #2275 Date: 09/29/95. Time: 11:30:17. Read 16 Times. From : Stranger To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : To DILLUDE or not to DILLUDE RECEIVED I'm a little teapot. Stranger Message # 2278. Reply to #2277 Date: 09/29/95. Time: 20:05:29. Read 17 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Stranger Subj : To DILLUDE or not to DILLUDE RECEIVED I'm the fire beneath you... AO Message # 2279. Reply to #2278 Date: 10/04/95. Time: 14:30:23. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : To DILLUDE or not to DILLUDE RECEIVED Im the compost of love Stranger Message # 2280. Reply to #2271 Date: 10/04/95. Time: 14:58:18. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Fink Ployd Subj : Hi Fink! RECEIVED BEFORE OR AFTER YOU DIE? C- - - #2280. Message # 2281. Reply to #2280 Date: 10/04/95. Time: 22:13:22. Read 16 Times. From : Fink Ployd To : HACK MAN Subj : Hi Fink! RECEIVED Yes. úfPú Message # 2282. Reply to #2279 Date: 10/04/95. Time: 22:25:45. Read 17 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Stranger Subj : To DILLUDE or not to DILLUDE RECEIVED oh heap it on me apathetic one... AO Message # 2283. Reply to #2282 Date: 10/05/95. Time: 10:10:37. Read 16 Times. From : Stranger To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : To DILLUDE or not to DILLUDE RECEIVED by the roots beneath the tree of simplicity thirsty for rusty nails having a blast eating artichokes Stranger Message # 2284. Reply to #2283 Date: 10/05/95. Time: 19:57:59. Read 17 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Stranger Subj : To DILLUDE or not to DILLUDE RECEIVED choke and all AO Message # 2285. Reply to #2284 Date: 10/06/95. Time: 09:02:59. Read 16 Times. From : Stranger To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : To DILLUDE or not to DILLUDE RECEIVED look mama im tall Stranger Message # 2286. Date: 10/18/95. Time: 23:18:44. Read 17 Times. From : Mikester To : all Subj : t I has jus occurred o me ha here hasn' been enough pos ing in his sub la ely. No pos ing in his, he secre sub for we Obfusca es, makes i feel as if some hing were...oh, I don' gnow...missing. Jus a hough . --M. Message # 2287. Reply to #2286 Date: 10/19/95. Time: 03:00:16. Read 13 Times. From : Unka Buck To : Mikester Subj : t RECEIVED Here, Mikes er, have a cup of T. _UB Message # 2288. Reply to #2286 Date: 10/19/95. Time: 06:28:58. Read 16 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Mikester Subj : t RECEIVED you are such a t-ease... AO Message # 2289. Reply to #2286 Date: 10/19/95. Time: 13:44:47. Read 12 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Mikester Subj : t RECEIVED NEVER! Message # 2290. Reply to #2288 Date: 10/19/95. Time: 23:46:41. Read 15 Times. From : Mikester To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : t RECEIVED Well, ain' I a shi ! --M. #2290. Message # 2291. Reply to #2290 Date: 10/20/95. Time: 06:56:21. Read 15 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Mikester Subj : t RECEIVED yeah, a real shi guy AO Message # 2292. Reply to #2291 Date: 10/23/95. Time: 23:18:20. Read 16 Times. From : Number Two To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : t RECEIVED ha 's a Shi Bird o you. hank you very much !! Be Seeing You ?? Message # 2293. Reply to #2292 Date: 10/24/95. Time: 06:59:13. Read 12 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Number Two Subj : t RECEIVED Ahhhhhh so good o see you back oh shi bird. B W, Blake is most anxious to talk to Jimmy as s alag is going o our Europe and s ar in Germany. I'll leave you his number in he nex pos Ao Message # 2294 -- Private. Message # 2295. Date: 11/02/95. Time: 23:34:30. Read 23 Times. From : Fink Ployd To : All Subj : The Furry Boot. Has anyone else noticed how close "Tasslehoff" is to "Hasslehoff"? úfPú Message # 2296. Reply to #2295 Date: 11/03/95. Time: 03:53:19. Read 16 Times. From : Stranger To : Fink Ployd Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED Yeah, but we don't hold it against him. Unless he begs. Stranger Message # 2297. Reply to #2295 Date: 11/03/95. Time: 18:03:55. Read 15 Times. From : The Necromancer To : Fink Ployd Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED No. Message # 2298. Reply to #2296 Date: 11/04/95. Time: 05:04:41. Read 16 Times. From : Fink Ployd To : Stranger Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED You can be the evil KITT. úfPú Message # 2299. Reply to #2297 Date: 11/04/95. Time: 05:05:29. Read 16 Times. From : Fink Ployd To : The Necromancer Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED Has anyone else noticed how close "Necromancer" is to "Orenthal"? úfPú Message # 2300. Reply to #2299 Date: 11/04/95. Time: 15:48:28. Read 16 Times. From : The Necromancer To : Fink Ployd Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED No. #2300. Message # 2301. Reply to #2295 Date: 11/04/95. Time: 17:44:21. Read 14 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Fink Ployd Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED Yes. First time I saw the name. Read the "Dragonlance Chronicles". Message # 2302. Reply to #2298 Date: 11/04/95. Time: 19:02:17. Read 16 Times. From : Mikester To : Fink Ployd Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED You leave "KARR" out of this, you bastard! --M. (or I'll get B.J. and the Bear after you) Message # 2303. Reply to #2302 Date: 11/05/95. Time: 12:18:29. Read 11 Times. From : The Necromancer To : Mikester Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED Me & String'll get Airwolf & blow you ALL away1 Message # 2304. Reply to #2300 Date: 11/05/95. Time: 23:41:37. Read 21 Times. From : Fink Ployd To : The Necromancer Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED Once upon a time, there was a little, grey rock. She was young, for a rock (only 250,003 years old). The rock's mommy and daddy, the two bigger rocks she had fragmented from, were deserts and mountains away. They had eroded, reformed, and been split by a glacier when baby rock was just a fetus rock. She was lonely. For a long time. One day, a crash of lightning hit her friend, the happy oak tree. Oak fell with a BOOM! jnocking baby rock loose from the surrounding sediment. One day, hundreds of years later, her friend, the soft rain, got angry at a passing bluebird. He fought for four weeks, putting baby rock under water. As the water joined the nearby river, baby rock followed. As she followed, baby got smaller and smaller. A thousand years later, the baby rock was a single grain of sand, with millions of beautiful baby rocks of her own. Together they coated the bottom of the sea. úfPú Comments : BRAVO!=44 PROMOTE ME=2 Message # 2305. Reply to #2302 Date: 11/05/95. Time: 23:43:43. Read 12 Times. From : Fink Ployd To : Mikester Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED Fine. Flaunt your uselessness and mastery of the trivial like a '70s teenager with a new Nova. úfPú Message # 2306. Reply to #2304 Date: 11/06/95. Time: 01:42:58. Read 16 Times. From : Ghost To : Fink Ployd Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED Congratulations. I can never resist a sedimental tale. Comments : DOINK=1 BRAVO!=1 Message # 2307. Reply to #2304 Date: 11/06/95. Time: 05:16:25. Read 13 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Fink Ployd Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED Most cool my lil rock star :) AO Message # 2308 -- Private. Message # 2309. Reply to #2295 Date: 11/08/95. Time: 00:09:41. Read 15 Times. From : Number Two To : Fink Ployd Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED He was in Kite Rider, or at least in the pilot. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 2310 -- Private. #2310. Message # 2311. Reply to #2306 Date: 11/09/95. Time: 02:03:13. Read 16 Times. From : Fink Ployd To : Ghost Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED Once upon a time, there was a story. It started simply like many before it. There was no fanfare or denoument or plot devices designed to draw the reader in. It was just a story. It was told. úfPú Message # 2312. Reply to #2307 Date: 11/09/95. Time: 02:05:35. Read 13 Times. From : Fink Ployd To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED Stars aren't made of rock; they're made of gas. But, I suppose, "Gas Star" is a bit too gastroenterlogical for the likes of Van Halen or Devo. úfPú Message # 2313. Reply to #2309 Date: 11/09/95. Time: 02:09:40. Read 15 Times. From : Fink Ployd To : Number Two Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED He has the hair for it. úfPú Message # 2315. Reply to #2311 Date: 11/10/95. Time: 00:36:50. Read 17 Times. From : Ghost To : Fink Ployd Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED Ah. The danger of a overcomplicated plot is always an anticline. Message # 2316. Reply to #2315 Date: 11/13/95. Time: 22:15:05. Read 18 Times. From : Fink Ployd To : Ghost Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED Once upon the end. úfPú Message # 2317. Reply to #2316 Date: 11/14/95. Time: 05:03:13. Read 16 Times. From : Ghost To : Fink Ployd Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED Some ends, when contemplated, always get a rise. Message # 2318. Date: 11/14/95. Time: 12:14:58. Read 20 Times. From : Number Two To : all Subj : New Obfuscate I nominate Anais Nin for the exalted supreme status of Obfuscate. Every single word that comes out of her keyboard leaves me in shock and bewilderment. Persoanlly, I still think she is a faker, but that make sit even more obfuscatory. Be Seeing You ?? (don't think about it, just do it) Message # 2319. Reply to #2318 Date: 11/14/95. Time: 17:55:14. Read 14 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Number Two Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED Do you have any examples? I haven't been paying much attention to her post, but that's only because I'm wrapped up in the insidious Cabal's mental domination. Message # 2320. Reply to #2318 Date: 11/14/95. Time: 17:53:16. Read 22 Times. From : Anais Nin To : Number Two Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED Humm.... I dunno about that. Making me an Obfuscate would mean giving me a little more power than I think I can actually deal with. You, of all people, should know how drunk I get from so much power...whew...I'm getting dizzy just thinking of it. Do I actually meet the requirements of an Obfuscate? Am I Obfuscate material? I implore you, no, beg of you to seriously consider this. But, if you guys wanna finally give it to me, heck, you know I'll take it! Anais Comments : OH MY GOD!=11 #2320. Message # 2321. Reply to #2320 Date: 11/14/95. Time: 18:38:37. Read 21 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Anais Nin Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED Wow...that was fast!!!!!! AO Message # 2322. Reply to #2318 Date: 11/14/95. Time: 22:09:25. Read 23 Times. From : Mikester To : Number Two Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED I vote Q. Or is it Picard. Ah, hell, just put me down for "Ambassador Kosh" and leave me alone. --M. Message # 2323. Reply to #2318 Date: 11/14/95. Time: 22:42:57. Read 26 Times. From : Stranger To : Number Two Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED I vote no. Not just no, but hell no. Stranger Message # 2324. Reply to #2322 Date: 11/14/95. Time: 23:27:30. Read 20 Times. From : Number Two To : Mikester Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED Ok, I'll take that as a "hell yes!" Be Seeing You ?? Message # 2325. Reply to #2323 Date: 11/14/95. Time: 23:27:51. Read 24 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED Does that mean you are against her becoming an Obfuscate ?? I am confused Be Seeing You ?? Message # 2326. Reply to #2317 Date: 11/15/95. Time: 00:21:52. Read 21 Times. From : Fink Ployd To : Ghost Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED Don't be mean. úfPú Message # 2327. Reply to #2325 Date: 11/15/95. Time: 05:47:05. Read 17 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Number Two Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED I am very confused. you nominate her and in the next post she is here in the temple. how did she get in if she's not an obfuscate yet? i'm withholding voting until this is cleared up. I nominate aphrodite AO Message # 2328. Reply to #2327 Date: 11/15/95. Time: 13:41:19. Read 24 Times. From : Stranger To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED Number Two obfuscated you---- Anais changed her name briefly, and then Number Two changed his name to hers and posted, then they changed names back to normal. (I vote no for Aphrodite) Stranger Message # 2329. Reply to #2328 Date: 11/15/95. Time: 17:12:39. Read 19 Times. From : Anais Nin To : Stranger Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED That isn't true.....I really am Anais. Anais Message # 2330. Reply to #2324 Date: 11/15/95. Time: 18:24:03. Read 23 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Number Two Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED OOPS. I WAS TRYING TO UPGRADE HER STATUS TO SUBOP AND I SLIPPED AND GAVE HER TOO MUCH ACCESS. I KID YOU NOT. AND THEN NUMBER TWO NOMINATED HER. I THINK THIS MUST BE A SIGN THAT ANAIS SHOULD BE THE FIRST OBFUSCATE BY ACCIDENT. OBFUSCATE ERRATIS. C- - - #2330. Message # 2331. Reply to #2330 Date: 11/15/95. Time: 18:43:22. Read 18 Times. From : The Necromancer To : HACK MAN Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED Now THAT'S an idea I can salute! Welcome, Anais, Inadvertent Obfuscate! Comments : WAY!=1 Message # 2332. Reply to #2330 Date: 11/15/95. Time: 19:42:12. Read 15 Times. From : Anais Nin To : HACK MAN Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED Yikes...I dunno about that...although that would be just typical of my life. Anais Message # 2333. Reply to #2331 Date: 11/15/95. Time: 19:42:55. Read 13 Times. From : Anais Nin To : The Necromancer Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED Oh no!!! You guys are making my stomach flip! Anais Message # 2334. Reply to #2327 Date: 11/15/95. Time: 22:18:56. Read 16 Times. From : Fink Ployd To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED I nominate my Uncle Todd. úfPú Message # 2335. Reply to #2328 Date: 11/15/95. Time: 23:35:53. Read 16 Times. From : Number Two To : Stranger Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED Wrong again...... Be Seeing You ?? Message # 2336. Reply to #2328 Date: 11/16/95. Time: 06:03:35. Read 16 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Stranger Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED I'm gonna get number two for this. the beard is in danger AO Message # 2337. Reply to #2326 Date: 11/16/95. Time: 06:52:04. Read 16 Times. From : Ghost To : Fink Ployd Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED Without meaning, my existance is pointless. Message # 2338. Reply to #2330 Date: 11/16/95. Time: 06:53:35. Read 16 Times. From : Ghost To : HACK MAN Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED Post no signs. Message # 2339. Reply to #2334 Date: 11/16/95. Time: 06:54:17. Read 17 Times. From : Ghost To : Fink Ployd Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED I nominate an uncommon denominator. Message # 2340. Reply to #2337 Date: 11/16/95. Time: 09:03:34. Read 16 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Ghost Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED THERE IS A POINT TO MEANINGLESS EXISTENCE, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE POINT TO EXISTENCE IS MEANINGLESS AND THE POINT TO MEANING DOESN'T EXIST, SO INSTEAD REVEL IN THE EXISTENCE OF POINTLESS MEANING. C- - - #2340. Message # 2341. Reply to #2338 Date: 11/16/95. Time: 09:06:51. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Ghost Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED SIGN NO POSTS. C- - - Message # 2343. Reply to #2330 Date: 11/16/95. Time: 15:45:49. Read 16 Times. From : Shay Pas To : HACK MAN Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED Haha! no way, josh indeedy it is some sign of some sort of a sign Shay Pas (tres trippy) Message # 2344. Reply to #2337 Date: 11/16/95. Time: 22:59:28. Read 18 Times. From : Fink Ployd To : Ghost Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED F U T I L I T Y I S A N I C E P L A C E T O V I S I T B U T I W O U L D N ' T W A N T T O J U G G L E T H E R E ú f P ú Message # 2345. Reply to #2339 Date: 11/16/95. Time: 23:03:41. Read 21 Times. From : Fink Ployd To : Ghost Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED We are the lowest uncommon denominator. úfPú Message # 2346. Reply to #2345 Date: 11/18/95. Time: 03:16:43. Read 20 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Fink Ployd Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED I RENOMINATE THE DENOMINATION OF THE DEMONIC DOMINATING DENOMINATORS. C- - - Message # 2347. Reply to #2340 Date: 11/18/95. Time: 17:13:48. Read 16 Times. From : Ghost To : HACK MAN Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED I revel in the point I mean ending. Message # 2348. Reply to #2344 Date: 11/18/95. Time: 17:14:46. Read 22 Times. From : Ghost To : Fink Ployd Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED Try vacationing in normal sometime. Good joke. Message # 2349. Reply to #2345 Date: 11/18/95. Time: 17:15:52. Read 18 Times. From : Ghost To : Fink Ployd Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED There may be none lower, but I'll milk any denomination. Message # 2350. Reply to #2346 Date: 11/20/95. Time: 00:51:31. Read 19 Times. From : Fink Ployd To : HACK MAN Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED Detain moron? Dominate Ron. Mention Dora. Dream notion. Orion Tandem. Darn emotion! Anteroom din. Notre domain. Anti-Doormen? Dreamt onion. Monitor Edna. Tornado mine. Denominating. Denominators! úfPú Comments : HAHAHA=23 #2350. Message # 2351. Reply to #2348 Date: 11/20/95. Time: 00:57:18. Read 25 Times. From : Fink Ployd To : Ghost Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED I would, but the locals treat strangers like refined crap. úfPú Message # 2352. Reply to #2349 Date: 11/20/95. Time: 00:58:39. Read 15 Times. From : Fink Ployd To : Ghost Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED I prefer $10s and $20yxz. úfPú Message # 2353. Reply to #2347 Date: 11/20/95. Time: 01:07:59. Read 18 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Ghost Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED IF A PERIOD COMES AT THE END, WHAT COMES AT THE BEGINNING? C- - - Message # 2354. Reply to #2353 Date: 11/20/95. Time: 01:15:24. Read 18 Times. From : Fink Ployd To : HACK MAN Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED The Quat. úfPú Message # 2355. Reply to #2351 Date: 11/20/95. Time: 03:08:23. Read 22 Times. From : Stranger To : Fink Ployd Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED Yuck, I dont wanna go there. Stranger Message # 2356. Date: 11/21/95. Time: 02:01:26. Read 21 Times. From : Anais Nin To : ALL Subj : So... Someone show me how to use my newly earned powers for good? How do I work this crAzy thing? Anais Message # 2357. Reply to #2356 Date: 11/22/95. Time: 03:58:56. Read 18 Times. From : Shay Pas To : Anais Nin Subj : So... RECEIVED "Uhh, we thought you knew..." "Hey you were the last to use it--you mean you didn't bring it?!" "Oh, great. Hey catch the door before it--damn we're locked in again." Message # 2358. Reply to #2355 Date: 11/22/95. Time: 04:50:10. Read 18 Times. From : Fink Ployd To : Stranger Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED If you DO, wear a slicker. úfPú Message # 2359. Reply to #2357 Date: 11/22/95. Time: 06:51:00. Read 16 Times. From : Anais Nin To : Shay Pas Subj : So... RECEIVED Aaaaa....the pressure! Im sorry! Anais Message # 2360. Reply to #2351 Date: 11/22/95. Time: 20:30:42. Read 23 Times. From : Ghost To : Fink Ployd Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED Really? I will have to discuss that with Jehan. #2360. Message # 2361. Reply to #2353 Date: 11/22/95. Time: 20:31:46. Read 17 Times. From : Ghost To : HACK MAN Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED It usually starts with menarche. Message # 2362. Date: 11/26/95. Time: 09:15:27. Read 19 Times. From : Mojo IV To : all Subj : GNOMINATION I hereby Gnominate Aliester Crowley for POsthumous OBfuscate. Message # 2363. Reply to #2362 Date: 11/26/95. Time: 17:07:40. Read 18 Times. From : Anais Nin To : Mojo IV Subj : GNOMINATION RECEIVED I second that nomination! Anais Message # 2364. Reply to #2327 Date: 11/26/95. Time: 19:03:48. Read 19 Times. From : Mojo IV To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED Well, hell, if Anais can be elected in 5 minutes, what the fuck, I'll gnominate THE REST OF THE BOARD. Why bother keeping this place secret if we don't get to vote on it? Sheesh... (Not that I'm mad or anything... just annoyed... I like Anais, but, then again, I like my mother, too, that doesn't mean I think she should be an obfuscate) Message # 2365. Reply to #2330 Date: 11/26/95. Time: 19:05:44. Read 15 Times. From : Mojo IV To : HACK MAN Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED Okay, okay, I'm done with my fume. I hereby say she should be "Accidental Obfuscate", give all abilities of obfuscation EXCEPT pay. Thus, an honorarium. However, all future entrances should be voted on. Message # 2366. Date: 11/26/95. Time: 19:07:39. Read 15 Times. From : Mojo IV To : all Subj : Okay... I channeled Aleister Crowley last night and he said "SQuisk". I'm not sure what to make of it. Message # 2367. Reply to #2364 Date: 11/26/95. Time: 19:40:34. Read 15 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Mojo IV Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED hell yes....let's nominate EVERYONE now let's vote AO Message # 2368. Reply to #2364 Date: 11/26/95. Time: 21:28:50. Read 15 Times. From : Anais Nin To : Mojo IV Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED HEY!!!!!! It was an accident! Don't you think it is even remotely funny? I do...Im not taking it seriously...therefore....you should not as well! I think your mother would make a great Obfuscate! Anais Message # 2369. Reply to #2367 Date: 11/27/95. Time: 02:10:19. Read 16 Times. From : Stranger To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED I vote no on EVERYONE, especially Reynaldo the Slightly-Larger-Than-Life- Sized Twinky. Stranger Message # 2370. Reply to #2369 Date: 11/27/95. Time: 05:40:42. Read 20 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Stranger Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED ack...reynaldo and I have been having a fling... don't pick on him AO #2370. Message # 2371. Reply to #2370 Date: 11/27/95. Time: 13:25:58. Read 19 Times. From : Stranger To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED Dont you mean dont pick up ON him? Stranger Message # 2372. Reply to #2371 Date: 11/27/95. Time: 18:51:11. Read 16 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Stranger Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED ah, it hadn't crossed my mind until now... yeah, you're right :) AO Message # 2373. Reply to #2369 Date: 11/27/95. Time: 19:36:40. Read 16 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Stranger Subj : New Obfuscate RECEIVED I concur with that, and second it with a kick in the teeth and a handful of mud. Message # 2374. Reply to #2360 Date: 11/27/95. Time: 23:16:21. Read 18 Times. From : Fink Ployd To : Ghost Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED Jehan doesn't live in Normality. She doesn't even have a visa. úfPú Message # 2375. Reply to #2374 Date: 11/28/95. Time: 22:38:10. Read 19 Times. From : Ghost To : Fink Ployd Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED She does take Norma lightly. Message # 2376. Reply to #2375 Date: 12/04/95. Time: 01:08:59. Read 19 Times. From : Fink Ployd To : Ghost Subj : The Furry Boot. RECEIVED Conceded, conceited. úfPú Message # 2381. Date: 12/24/95. Time: 03:32:41. Read 15 Times. From : Ghost To : Alla Bov Subj : I vote we have a little spiritous rioting to mark this occasion. You riot, and I will provide the spirit. Message # 2382. Date: 01/05/96. Time: 14:55:45. Read 16 Times. From : Stranger To : all Subj : uh Blah. Stranger Message # 2383. Reply to #2382 Date: 01/06/96. Time: 18:37:01. Read 17 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Stranger Subj : uh RECEIVED <> Message # 2384. Reply to #1522 Date: 01/23/96. Time: 12:08:02. Read 15 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Obfuscates/Number Two/Stranger/Lynx Subj : Nomination RECEIVED If there are no rules of obsfuscation, then the fish. Message # 2386. Reply to #1549 Date: 01/23/96. Time: 12:12:18. Read 15 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Gravebuster Subj : Missing Numeral ? Message # 2387. Reply to #529 Date: 01/31/96. Time: 15:31:27. Read 17 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Gravebuster Subj : smubject I hereby gnominate Gizmo for obfuscate. Again. Also, I vote *NO* on Gizmo.. Message # 2388. Reply to #2387 Date: 01/31/96. Time: 20:05:42. Read 16 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : Mojo IV Subj : smubject RECEIVED I vote YES!!! ao Message # 2389. Reply to #2388 Date: 01/31/96. Time: 20:05:57. Read 15 Times. From : ANN OTHERWORLD To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : smubject RECEIVED B btw that was 23 bytes AO Message # 2390. Reply to #2387 Date: 02/01/96. Time: 14:17:13. Read 16 Times. From : Stranger To : Mojo IV Subj : smubject RECEIVED I vote no. Stranger #2390. Message # 2391. Reply to #2388 Date: 02/01/96. Time: 16:49:01. Read 15 Times. From : Mojo IV To : ANN OTHERWORLD Subj : smubject I vote *NO* on you voting *YES*! Message # 2392. Reply to #2390 Date: 02/01/96. Time: 16:49:20. Read 17 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Stranger Subj : smubject RECEIVED Is that NO on Gizmo for OBfuscate, or NO on My voting NO, or no on AO voting Yes? Message # 2393. Reply to #2392 Date: 02/01/96. Time: 18:02:40. Read 17 Times. From : Stranger To : Mojo IV Subj : smubject RECEIVED Yes. Stranger Message # 2394. Reply to #2393 Date: 02/01/96. Time: 19:10:46. Read 19 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Stranger Subj : smubject RECEIVED Okay, so I take that as "Q" -- Nuna the Abov? Message # 2396. Date: 02/01/96. Time: 21:16:04. Read 28 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : STUFF I WANT TO NOMINATE KEN JUST BECAUSE. AND ALSO TELLURA AND APHRODITE AND GRAZZT AND ANAIS NIN AND SHADE. JUST TO SEE IF ANY OF THEM WILL FLY. C- - - Message # 2397. Reply to #2396 Date: 02/01/96. Time: 22:38:43. Read 26 Times. From : Mikester To : HACK MAN Subj : STUFF RECEIVED I vote yes on Anais Nin (isn't she already the Accidental Obfuscate?) and SHADE. No on everyone else (including Gizmo). No offense to any of them, of course...especially those I've voted yes on. --M. Message # 2398. Reply to #2396 Date: 02/01/96. Time: 23:33:03. Read 16 Times. From : Mojo IV To : HACK MAN Subj : STUFF RECEIVED Never! Never! NEver~!!!!! Message # 2399. Reply to #2396 Date: 02/02/96. Time: 01:22:26. Read 17 Times. From : The Necromancer To : HACK MAN Subj : STUFF RECEIVED I don't think I've evr seen KEn obfuscate, but you've gnown him longer than I have. Tellura is obfuscation incarnate, but has a control problem. Message # 2400. Reply to #2399 Date: 02/02/96. Time: 02:39:41. Read 17 Times. From : Mojo IV To : The Necromancer Subj : STUFF RECEIVED The day Tellura is made Obfuscate is the day I take up BINK and restart XENOGENESIS! #2400. Message # 2401. Reply to #2394 Date: 02/03/96. Time: 22:38:14. Read 16 Times. From : Ghost To : Mojo IV Subj : smubject RECEIVED Nuna Bov to you, Mollusk. Message # 2402. Reply to #2397 Date: 02/04/96. Time: 13:24:34. Read 18 Times. From : Stranger To : Mikester Subj : STUFF RECEIVED I also vote yes on Shade, and no for everyone else. Stranger Message # 2403. Reply to #2402 Date: 02/04/96. Time: 14:46:31. Read 17 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Stranger Subj : STUFF RECEIVED I'm going to drag my feet on this vote. Just because. :) Actually, I really dunno what I think about Shade as Obfuscate... If someone could show me obfuscatory posts of his, maybe? Message # 2404. Date: 02/06/96. Time: 02:30:22. Read 17 Times. From : Mojo IV To : all Subj : hiding... Hi, everyone. I'm hiding in here from Ice Queen. ho hum... Message # 2405. Reply to #1476 Date: 02/06/96. Time: 02:39:48. Read 16 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Stranger Subj : Mojo for Obfuscate! RECEIVED Oh, no, Stranger! You're WRONG! I *ALWAYS* WAR! Why, I've never Obfuscated in my LIFE!!! <> Message # 2406. Reply to #2397 Date: 02/06/96. Time: 13:39:27. Read 15 Times. From : HACK MAN To : Mikester Subj : STUFF RECEIVED OH YEA, I FORGOT AND ACCIDENTALLY INCLUDED HER IN THE LIST. C- - - Message # 2407. Reply to #2396 Date: 02/06/96. Time: 22:50:53. Read 16 Times. From : Number Two To : HACK MAN Subj : STUFF RECEIVED no, no, no, no, no, and finally a no Be Seeing You ?? Message # 2408. Reply to #2399 Date: 02/06/96. Time: 22:51:40. Read 16 Times. From : Number Two To : The Necromancer Subj : STUFF RECEIVED Excuse me, but Shay Pas is Obfuscation Incarnate. Tellura is very good at a narrow section of Obfuscation, and you are right she has a control problem which equals security risk. This is the same reasonI must always vote no on Gizmo. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 2409. Reply to #2408 Date: 02/07/96. Time: 20:29:25. Read 15 Times. From : The Necromancer To : Number Two Subj : STUFF RECEIVED Correction noted, and accepted. Message # 2410. Date: 02/07/96. Time: 20:46:19. Read 19 Times. From : HACK MAN To : ALL Subj : STUFF SO FAR SHADE IS WINNING. 2 TO 1. I LIKE TO RESERVE MY VOTE UNLESS IT MIGHT HAPPEN TO TIP THE BALANCE. C- - - #2410. Message # 2411. Reply to #2410 Date: 02/07/96. Time: 21:05:27. Read 16 Times. From : Mr. Gone To : HACK MAN Subj : STUFF RECEIVED I vote X. Message # 2412. Reply to #2410 Date: 02/09/96. Time: 16:46:06. Read 15 Times. From : The Necromancer To : HACK MAN Subj : STUFF RECEIVED Okay, I've gotta vote against Shade, simply because I've never seen him obfuscate, and yet he is insuffuciently NON-obfuscatory to make it amusing to vote him in. On the other hand, I think Jehan should be blackmailed into the fold. Anybody got any ideas? Message # 2413. Reply to #2412 Date: 02/10/96. Time: 00:24:15. Read 15 Times. From : Ghost To : The Necromancer Subj : STUFF RECEIVED No to Jehan. Yes to Shade. Message # 2414. Reply to #2412 Date: 02/11/96. Time: 14:40:07. Read 14 Times. From : Number Two To : The Necromancer Subj : STUFF RECEIVED I reiterate my yes on Shade, and must sadly say no on Jehan Be Seeing You ?? Message # 2415. Reply to #2413 Date: 02/11/96. Time: 23:26:22. Read 16 Times. From : The Necromancer To : Ghost Subj : STUFF RECEIVED Oh, sure, just render my votes null with yours. Message # 2416. Reply to #2415 Date: 02/13/96. Time: 18:51:37. Read 14 Times. From : HACK MAN To : The Necromancer Subj : STUFF RECEIVED DEMOCRACY IS A WONDERFUL THING. C- - - Message # 2417. Reply to #2415 Date: 02/22/96. Time: 09:11:40. Read 14 Times. From : Ghost To : The Necromancer Subj : STUFF RECEIVED Just consider me a perfect void. Message # 2418. Reply to #2417 Date: 02/22/96. Time: 11:44:54. Read 13 Times. From : Stranger To : Ghost Subj : STUFF RECEIVED Avoid the void? Or is that annoyed. Stranger Message # 2419. Reply to #2418 Date: 02/23/96. Time: 00:32:33. Read 14 Times. From : Ghost To : Stranger Subj : STUFF RECEIVED Avast, ye! Void the Brooklyn woid So sings the boid the cat destroyed Message # 2421. Date: 02/25/96. Time: 03:05:10. Read 20 Times. From : Mr. Gone To : obfuscates Subj : THE RETREAT: What the fuck? This privacy is just in case Terminal or Lost Chain has managed to hack the access to this sub... We all need to get off our collective butts and start salvaging this BBS, before there's nothing left. The board has gone to hell in a handbasket, as as Obfuscates, if any of us are even WORTHY of the name anymore, it is our DUTY to get the shit back on track. Stranger pointed it out: None of us even BOTHER to put OBFUSCATE on our sign- offs anymore, myself included. That should be our first step. THEN, we need to start posting longer and more interesting messages. I'll list it, I think: 1. Sign off with -=OBFUSCATE=- or whatever, as long as it clearly indicates that YOU are one of the *ELITE* of this board. 2. Post more. Obfuscate until you CAN'T obfuscate anymore! 3. Post LONGER messages. I am mostly responsible for the trend of short, one-liner messages that plague the hallowed halls today. 4. Abuse annoying people. When I first got on, I was abused quite thoroughly, because I was QUITE annoying and DEFINITELY not wanted about. The people we actually WANT around here will not be deterred, and eventually evolve into worthwhile users. 5. We REALLY need to cut-back on the number of subs. My suggestions for the subs to be cut are as follows: THE DIMENSIONAL NEXUS THE STATISTICS DEPARTMENT SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY THE DEMENTED HERBARIUM THE COURTROOM LAW SUCKS DOWNLOADER'S ANONYMOUS SYSOP'S CHAMBERS HACKER'S ZONE THE LIBRARY THE PI ROOM HAGADAVIDIAN'S CONFOUND I realize the Libary, the Pi Room, and the Hacker's Zone are classic subs, but they get absolutely NOT posts and don't seem very likely to. Message # 2422. Reply to #2421 Date: 02/25/96. Time: 03:16:38. Read 19 Times. From : Number Two To : obfuscates/Mr. Gone Subj : THE RETREAT: What the fuck? RECEIVED I agree withg everything you mentioned except the cutting of subs. Pretty much, I feel that once a sub has been created, it is there for eternity. It may evolve ito something else, but deleting it and acting like it didn't exist is wrong. Hack Man has restored many old messages and made sure that this boards history is right there where everyone can see it, anytime they want to. Deleting subs is shaving off parts of that history, and is panful and unneccessary. Be Seeing You ?? Message # 2423. Reply to #2421 Date: 02/25/96. Time: 09:51:48. Read 26 Times. From : Stranger To : obfuscates/Mr. Gone Subj : THE RETREAT: What the fuck? RECEIVED I agree with you for the most part, including the sub list, (except for The Library and The Pi room, and add The Museum to the list of subs to delete.) (If you want to talk about art (and face it, not many do) the Library or the media sub are fine places.) (How about a sub for left handed bisexual penguins?) Stranger -=OBFUSCATE=- Message # 2424. Reply to #2422 Date: 02/25/96. Time: 09:53:35. Read 22 Times. From : Stranger To : obfuscates/Mr. Gone/Number Two Subj : THE RETREAT: What the fuck? RECEIVED I think it's fine to delete subs that arent part of the history of the Retreat.... for example. The Science and Technology sub has been around for a little while, but notbing worthwhile has ever been said in it so it wouldnt really be a big deal to cut it. But yes, the old subs, like the Pi Room, which arent used anymore shouldnt be cut... if anything-- revitalized. But there's nothing wrong with a sub not used.... they stand there as storehouses of Retreat genetic memory. Stranger -=OBFUSCATE=- Message # 2425. Reply to #2422 Date: 02/25/96. Time: 16:46:56. Read 22 Times. From : Mr. Gone To : obfuscates/Mr. Gone/Number Two Subj : THE RETREAT: What the fuck? RECEIVED We've lost a few over the years, and it does pain me to have to say it, but there are just too many! You'll note, I put the Nexus at the top of the list. I readily admit I have not done my job regarding that sub and it is only topped by the STATISTICS DEPARTMENT on emptiness. Message # 2426. Reply to #2423 Date: 02/25/96. Time: 16:48:14. Read 17 Times. From : Mr. Gone To : obfuscates/Mr. Gone/Stranger Subj : THE RETREAT: What the fuck? RECEIVED Oops. excuse me... Mojo IV, SQuishy BOgSLug -=-OBFUSCATE-=- Message # 2427. Reply to #2424 Date: 02/25/96. Time: 16:49:03. Read 18 Times. From : Mr. Gone To : obfuscates/Mr. Gone/Number Two/Stranger Subj : THE RETREAT: What the fuck? RECEIVED It was tough putting the PI ROOM on the list, but I haven't really seen anything happen with that sub... ever! Message # 2428. Reply to #2422 Date: 02/25/96. Time: 19:39:06. Read 17 Times. From : HACK MAN To : obfuscates/Mr. Gone/Number Two Subj : THE RETREAT: What the fuck? RECEIVED I MORE OR LESS AGREE WITH THAT SENTIMENT. ALTHOUGH I MIGHT LOOK FOR ANOTHER SOLUTION. ONE THAT JUST OCCURS TO ME. WE COULD DECLARE CERTAIN SUBS 'INACTIVE' AND SET IT UP SO THAT THEY ARE AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPED ON THE GLOBAL SCAN HOWEVER YOU CAN STILL GET TO THEM BY JUMPING THERE. THEN WE WOULD HAVE SORTOF A SUB GRAVEYARD. THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. C- - - Message # 2429. Reply to #2421 Date: 02/26/96. Time: 00:21:51. Read 17 Times. From : The Necromancer To : obfuscates/Mr. Gone Subj : THE RETREAT: What the fuck? RECEIVED A minor refinement: sign with your obfucate status ONLY when your posts are worthy of an obfuscate. Don't sign one liners (which are sometimes nessesary). Message # 2430. Reply to #2428 Date: 02/26/96. Time: 00:41:09. Read 19 Times. From : Mr. Gone To : obfuscates/Mr. Gone/Number Two/HACK MAN Subj : THE RETREAT: What the fuck? RECEIVED Sounds good to me! (sorry, I'm still laughing about the chat log...) #2430. Message # 2431. Reply to #2429 Date: 02/26/96. Time: 00:41:35. Read 17 Times. From : Mr. Gone To : obfuscates/Mr. Gone/The Necromancer Subj : THE RETREAT: What the fuck? RECEIVED Good point. Message # 2432. Reply to #2425 Date: 02/26/96. Time: 02:51:36. Read 17 Times. From : Number Two To : obfuscates/Number Two/Mr. Gone Subj : THE RETREAT: What the fuck? RECEIVED There are posts in it no ?? Then it is part of Retreat history and I can't agree with deleting it. Of course, that doesn't mean it wont happen, but I will argue forever for the inviolate nature of Sub-boards. That is why I am very wary of ever adding new subs. Be Seeing You ?? -=Obfuscate=--=Obfuscate=--=Obfuscate=--=Obfuscate=--=Bink=--=Obfuscate=- (one of thse things is not like the other, one of these things does not belong) Message # 2433. Reply to #2432 Date: 02/26/96. Time: 12:31:23. Read 17 Times. From : Mr. Gone To : obfuscates/Mr. Gone/Number Two Subj : THE RETREAT: What the fuck? RECEIVED <> Well, actually, Hack was saying something about "putting subs to sleep" or something like that... leaving unused subs off of the generic sub scan. Thus, only the currently major active subs will show up on new users scans, which can always be reconfigured AND the users can always marvel at discovering a new sub they've never seen before. (bringing back the element of wonder to the Retreat, you see?) Message # 2434. Reply to #2425 Date: 02/26/96. Time: 12:51:56. Read 19 Times. From : Stranger To : obfuscates/Number Two/Mr. Gone Subj : THE RETREAT: What the fuck? RECEIVED I think it would be a little cooler if you hadnt bogged most of it, Mojo. :) Stranger Message # 2435. Reply to #2427 Date: 02/26/96. Time: 12:52:32. Read 18 Times. From : Stranger To : obfuscates/Number Two/Stranger/Mr. Gone Subj : THE RETREAT: What the fuck? RECEIVED There are still great posts to be read in there... and who gnows, maybe one of these days an avatar of pi will come to the board, find that sub, and be delighted with the landscape in which he gets to obfuscate. Stranger Message # 2436. Reply to #2434 Date: 02/26/96. Time: 12:53:43. Read 16 Times. From : Mr. Gone To : obfuscates/Number Two/Mr. Gone/Stranger Subj : THE RETREAT: What the fuck? RECEIVED I just BOgged everything before the Nexus. Remember, the Nexus is COMPLETELY INDEPENDANT of the Board. An independant barony in Cyberspace! <> Message # 2437. Reply to #2433 Date: 02/26/96. Time: 12:54:01. Read 19 Times. From : Stranger To : obfuscates/Number Two/Mr. Gone Subj : THE RETREAT: What the fuck? RECEIVED An element of wonder belongs on the periodical table, right next to Time magazine and perhaps samson's left toe. Stranger -=OBFUSCATE=- Message # 2438. Reply to #2435 Date: 02/26/96. Time: 12:54:53. Read 18 Times. From : Mr. Gone To : obfuscates/Number Two/Mr. Gone/Stranger Subj : THE RETREAT: What the fuck? RECEIVED Well, there is THAT. Message # 2439. Reply to #2437 Date: 02/26/96. Time: 12:55:19. Read 19 Times. From : Mr. Gone To : obfuscates/Number Two/Mr. Gone/Stranger Subj : THE RETREAT: What the fuck? RECEIVED Et, tu, Stranger? Mojo IV, Molluskus Majora -=-=ETACSUFNA=-=- Message # 2440. Reply to #2439 Date: 02/26/96. Time: 13:10:19. Read 21 Times. From : Stranger To : obfuscates/Number Two/Stranger/Mr. Gone Subj : THE RETREAT: What the fuck? RECEIVED Now I havent et yet. Guess what? Im going to plant a kumquat tree in my backyard. Ive always wanted one, ever since the kumquat tree in my backyard was turned into a fig tree while trying to run away from Apollo and his minions of sunshine and death. Stranger #2440. Message # 2441. Reply to #2440 Date: 02/26/96. Time: 14:33:26. Read 19 Times. From : Mr. Gone To : obfuscates/Number Two/Mr. Gone/Stranger Subj : THE RETREAT: What the fuck? RECEIVED Well, make sure you use plenty of fertilizer. I recomend posts from Gizmo, personally... t Message # 2442. Date: 02/29/96. Time: 19:30:05. Read 20 Times. From : Gravebuster To : All Subj : You Gnow What? DOINK! One thing you'll never hear HACK MAN tell a group of obfuscates is that he wants to be canonized.... +++Gravebuster Message # 2443. Reply to #2442 Date: 02/29/96. Time: 21:52:34. Read 16 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Gravebuster Subj : You Gnow What? DOINK! I'll CANNONIZE HIM!!! <> Message # 2444. Reply to #2442 Date: 02/29/96. Time: 22:56:02. Read 16 Times. From : Mikester To : Gravebuster Subj : You Gnow What? DOINK! Who'd want to shoot HACK MAN with a cannon? (Grave, please don't go again!) the Mikester ==--OBFUSCATE--== Message # 2445. Reply to #2442 Date: 03/01/96. Time: 00:16:42. Read 16 Times. From : The Necromancer To : Gravebuster Subj : You Gnow What? DOINK! ACK! WELCOME BACK, JACK! Is this an attack, or are we once again getting the sack? Message # 2446. Reply to #2442 Date: 03/01/96. Time: 10:53:30. Read 18 Times. From : Number Two To : Gravebuster Subj : You Gnow What? DOINK! Illustrious Buster of Graves, if you ever return again I welcome you back to the Retreat. We need a story or 2....... Be Seeing You ?? ps. war is hell Message # 2447. Reply to #2445 Date: 03/01/96. Time: 13:50:39. Read 15 Times. From : Mojo IV To : The Necromancer Subj : You Gnow What? DOINK! RECEIVED Well, you'll be hit by a Mack (Truck) And it'll be black (Muck) So don't be a fowl (Duck) Or I'll have to disembowl (Suck) draw from that what you will... Mojo IV -=-OBFUSCATE-=- Message # 2448. Reply to #2446 Date: 03/01/96. Time: 18:58:37. Read 16 Times. From : Mikester To : Number Two Subj : You Gnow What? DOINK! RECEIVED I got the subtle hint. I'm working on a story, I swear! the Mikester ==--OBFUSCATE--== Message # 2449. Date: 03/07/96. Time: 14:16:38. Read 13 Times. From : Mojo IV To : HACK MAN Subj : RECEIVED DOINK! Message # 2450. Date: 03/09/96. Time: 12:28:55. Read 17 Times. From : Mojo IV To : obfuscates/notfuscates Subj : ho ho ho "My lifes full of broken glass, My lifes full of puking cats, Since you left me (oh oh surprise!) My life's full of pumpkin pies." (The Limp Lizards) ("Jem") #2450. Message # 2451. Date: 03/23/96. Time: 19:11:59. Read 14 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Jehan Subj : boing! YOUR NOT EVEN IN HERE YA BLOODY BLOODY BLOODY!!!!! Message # 2452. Date: 03/29/96. Time: 03:39:47. Read 18 Times. From : Fink Ployd To : Obfuscates Subj : Denomination. I hereby nominate Erik Estrada for Obfuscate status. úfPú Message # 2453. Reply to #2452 Date: 03/29/96. Time: 10:50:14. Read 20 Times. From : Number Two To : Obfuscates/Fink Ployd Subj : Denomination. RECEIVED I 23rd that nomination Be Seeing You ?? -=OBgyn=- Message # 2454. Reply to #2452 Date: 03/29/96. Time: 12:04:32. Read 17 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Obfuscates/Fink Ployd Subj : Denomination. RECEIVED I hereby 53rd that gnomination, and set him on fire. SPEAKING OF WHICH: Even though I did not vote on it, didn't we elect Shade already? I still don't have much of an opinion on it but if the vote came up in his favour I will welcome him, because of this simple formular: Average Obfuscate = Full of Shit Full of Shit = Full of Shit Average Septic Tank = Full of Shit Bunch of Obfuscates > Average Obfuscate Bunch of Obfuscates > Full of Shit So, exactly! Message # 2456. Reply to #2453 Date: 03/31/96. Time: 01:24:25. Read 14 Times. From : Fink Ployd To : Obfuscates/Fink Ployd/Number Two Subj : Denomination. RECEIVED I hereby nominate The Guy Who Played "Larry" on Three's Company for Obfuscate status. úüæú Message # 2457. Date: 04/01/96. Time: 17:33:10. Read 12 Times. From : Anais Nin To : all Subj : Obfuskate..... I don't think Erick Estrada would make a good obfuscate. Anais Message # 2458. Reply to #2457 Date: 04/01/96. Time: 22:41:12. Read 13 Times. From : Mikester To : Anais Nin Subj : Obfuskate..... RECEIVED I don't think anyone should be an Obfuscate. I hereby de-nominate all current Obfuscates. (Number Two...you're a two dollar bill! Stranger...you're a ten spot!) the Mikester ==--OBFUSCATE--== Message # 2459. Reply to #2458 Date: 04/02/96. Time: 10:57:28. Read 12 Times. From : Number Two To : Mikester Subj : Obfuskate..... RECEIVED and Anais gets to be the G-spot Be Seeing You ?? Message # 2460. Reply to #2458 Date: 04/02/96. Time: 11:24:26. Read 12 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Mikester Subj : Obfuskate..... RECEIVED I get to be a NICKEL!!! #2460. Message # 2461. Reply to #2459 Date: 04/02/96. Time: 11:24:36. Read 13 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Number Two Subj : Obfuskate..... RECEIVED Hey, now! Share with the rest of the class! Message # 2462. Reply to #2459 Date: 04/02/96. Time: 17:06:28. Read 11 Times. From : Anais Nin To : Number Two Subj : Obfuskate..... RECEIVED Woooo WWWOOOOOOO Im all for that one!!! hehehehe Anais Message # 2463. Reply to #2423 Date: 04/02/96. Time: 17:09:35. Read 14 Times. From : Anais Nin To : obfuscates/Mr. Gone/Stranger Subj : THE RETREAT: What the fuck? RECEIVED Yeah, Stranger...I agree with you! Down with that useless,dead, unwanted Museum sub! It fucking sucks! Yeah! I second that!!!! Anais Message # 2464. Reply to #2424 Date: 04/02/96. Time: 17:10:58. Read 20 Times. From : Anais Nin To : obfuscates/Mr. Gone/Number Two/Stranger Subj : THE RETREAT: What the fuck? RECEIVED Uh, oh...wait.....now there is nothing wrong with an unused sub....huh? hummm...... Just what was it that you meant? hummmm......Im atta loss.... Anais Message # 2465. Reply to #2464 Date: 04/05/96. Time: 02:36:20. Read 20 Times. From : Stranger To : obfuscates/Mr. Gone/Number Two/Stranger/Anais Nin Subj : THE RETREAT: What the fuck? RECEIVED Im not surprised. Stranger Message # 2466. Reply to #2465 Date: 04/05/96. Time: 17:34:58. Read 13 Times. From : Anais Nin To : obfuscates/Mr. Gone/Number Two/Anais Nin/Stranger Subj : THE RETREAT: What the fuck? RECEIVED Of course you're not surprized....you came up with it..... :) Anais Message # 2467. Reply to #2465 Date: 04/05/96. Time: 23:10:22. Read 13 Times. From : Ghost To : obfuscates/Mr. Gone/Number Two/Anais Nin/Stranger Subj : THE RETREAT: What the fuck? RECEIVED You are however, stranger and stranger. Message # 2468. Date: 04/23/96. Time: 12:27:17. Read 14 Times. From : Mojo IV To : all Subj : Gnomination I hereby gnominate Sam Keith for Honorary Obfuscate. As proof of his validity, I point to ever issue of "The Maxx", especially the letters pages. I also gnominate Erma Bombeck for Posthumous Obfuscate. Message # 2470. Reply to #2468 Date: 04/25/96. Time: 14:05:31. Read 15 Times. From : Stranger To : Mojo IV Subj : Gnomination RECEIVED I vote seventy four. Stranger #2470. Message # 2471. Reply to #2470 Date: 04/28/96. Time: 20:13:22. Read 12 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Stranger Subj : Gnomination RECEIVED I concur. 15-Luv, my serve again. Message # 2473. Reply to #2468 Date: 05/02/96. Time: 08:04:16. Read 11 Times. From : Ghost To : Mojo IV Subj : Gnomination RECEIVED If she's a posthumous obfuscate, she'll be mulch pleased by the honor. Message # 2474. Reply to #2473 Date: 05/04/96. Time: 16:58:17. Read 8 Times. From : Number Two To : Ghost Subj : Gnomination I nominate Ghost for the trash compactor..... That was sooooo bad Be Seeing You ?? Message # 2475. Reply to #2473 Date: 05/06/96. Time: 00:03:53. Read 5 Times. From : Mojo IV To : Ghost Subj : Gnomination Is that a Yes?